/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10911921]

is GEB worth reading or will my brain loop back round on itself

[Anonymous No.10911974]

danger for sure

[Anonymous No.10912002]

>>10911921
its super pseud material. imagine never getting laid, then thinking mathematics has a real world representation (it doesn't, all engineering uses numerical approximations) and somehow turning the tedious labour of discovering homomorphisms between the observations of the real world and some grossly oversimplified abstract topology in your head, into a religion.

except this religion gives you barely any status or prestige, no measurable power, no sexual attraction. only a self-serving narcissism (externally) and a deep self-loathing internally because you can't one up some guy dead for 300 years. if anyone ever tells you to read GEB ask them if they know about galois (died at 20, contributed more to mathematics than tens of thousands of mathematicians who came after him, and the millions of pseud-fedora tippers who jerked off to that book since).

[Anonymous No.10912047]

>>10912002
>imagine never getting laid
imagining such a remote alternate reality will truly be a toilsome task, but I will enact such a labor for the sake of your argument

[Anonymous No.10912073]

>>10912002
wooosh!

[Anonymous No.10912205]

>>10912002
>it's super pseud material
Basically this. You'd be much better off just reading articles about computing theory on Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.10912396]

>>10912002
>its super pseud material.
only if you read it as the 'key to the universe' or something. it's just a whimsical introduction to computational theory and logic, and a pretty good one at that

[Anonymous No.10912406]

>>10912002
this

[Anonymous No.10913505]

>>10911921
If you don't find it fun, don't bother, just read some direct and plain textbooks. It's not very good as an educational piece.

[Anonymous No.10913521]

>>10912002
>mathematical genius
>somehow talked into a duel
>soyboy gets gunned down like a pleb
Wow, what a legend. A true genius indeed.

[Anonymous No.10913532]

>>10912002
>then thinking mathematics has a real world representation (it doesn't, all engineering uses numerical approximations)
i'm assuming you're either oversimplifying for the sake of (a rather poor) argument, or you're actually retarded

[Anonymous No.10914760]

>>10912002
t. read about galois on wikipedia
You're the real pseud here, bucko.

[Anonymous No.10915295]

>>10912002
>>10914760
I was gonna call you both brainlets for spelling Gaulois wrong but it seems I'm the brainlet here.

[Anonymous No.10915352]

>>10913521
book smart, street dumb I'm guessing

[Anonymous No.10915441]

>>10915352
>>10913521
I guess you're not taking into account the country and the century which he lived.

[Anonymous No.10915465]

>>10912002
Lmao

[Anonymous No.10915612]

>>10912002
>all engineering uses numerical approximations

please sir, explain to me what that means. i'm have hardly any knowledge about mathematics, nevertheless i think that this pertains to a something i was thinking about. what is meant when they say, that they use the mathematics by einstein of coordinate GPS, or produce CD reading devises. I thought that mathematical formulas (not all) have real application in technology

[Anonymous No.10915923]

>>10912002
Just curious, how many people here are actually kissless virgins? I figure with the rising popularity of 4chan most of them had left and that virginposters are just posturing.

[Anonymous No.10915938]

The book isn't about math or the names in the title, as the author has said. It's his theory on conciousness and how animate came from inanimate.

[Anonymous No.10916517]

>>10915612
Most engineering is done with error. Think about measuring something with a rule -- you can't get the exact length. Something may be 22.3417 inches, but with a ruler you only find it to be 22.3 inches. Additional error can result from a number of things. Calculators and computers also have this error, for example, no calculator can represent all digits of pi. There are infinitely many digits in pi and they don't repeat, making it impossible to represent it with a finite calculator or computer.

All that is to say: no measurement is perfect. In engineering you have a "tolerance", it is an idea of how small your error can be for it to work correctly, which is what allows the things we build to work even if we can't make perfect measurements.

The poster you are replying to is somewhat right that many things in math can't be represented in our world; that doesn't mean they aren't "real" as he seems to imply though. Just note that a "numerical approximation" is itself a mathematical concept.

t. someone with background in math and engineering

[Anonymous No.10916529]

>>10911921
It is pretty good. If you actually want to, say, understand the proof of Godel's Incompleteness Theorems you should obviously get a math book, but it is a good book for layman.

A bit pseud in that I found it a bit needlessly complex at times, but still a good book.

[Anonymous No.10917732]

>>10912002
>imagine never getting laid
haha just imagining this is so crazy haha

[Anonymous No.10917738]

>>10915923
not that crazy but I'm 20 and i have never even held a girl's hand before

[Anonymous No.10917809]

>>10915923
Non-virgin but several months kissless. Pretty sure I'll never fuck again.

>>10911921
Also I love GEB. Go ahead and read it OP.

[Anonymous No.10917820]

>>10912047
>imagining such a remote alternate reality will truly be a toilsome task, but I will enact such a labor for the sake of your argument
I really hope for your own sake that you don't normally speak like this.

[Anonymous No.10918564]

>>10913532
incompleteness argues in favor of the lack of a real world representation. i think you're the retard.

[Anonymous No.10918574]

>>10915923

I got three kids so you know, like, what the fuck ever.

[Anonymous No.10918579]

>>10915923
here I am