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What are some books about geek culture?

>> No.10905324
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>>10905307
Maters of Doom
why do people keep making fun of this guy? he's just reacting to trailer. What have you never been excited before?

>> No.10905336

>>10905324
>why do people keep making fun of this guy? he's just reacting to trailer. What have you never been excited before?
I think the issue is how forced and for-profit it is. I'll admit that I screamed when Shenmue III was revealed, but I'd never film myself for it, now matter how genuine my excitement was.

>> No.10905345
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Ready Player One and Armada accidentally expose how vapid geek culture is. Ernest Cline is a shallow consumerist who doesn't have any self-awareness whatsoever.

>> No.10905348

>>10905307
Jesus Christ, its like watching my three year old get excited.

>> No.10905367
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>> No.10905379

That's it. I'm going to write a book about Soyboys called "SOY". It'll be like Houllebecq's Submission but explore the realities of how dangerous popculture and using it as a replacement for real religion and literature. The main character one day wakes up and realizes he has nothing in common with his "geek" friends and tries to befriend some normies but realizes he doesn't fit in there either after being cock blocked. In turn he sets out to start some anit-popculture movement which spawns into a religion. Simon Pegg plays the main character in the inevitable movie adaptation.

>> No.10905392

>>10905345
>>10905379
Why did Simon Pegg agree to star in Ready Player One after he wrote that greentext about geek culture?

>> No.10905398

>>10905392
I would guess Spielberg talked him into it. He's a massive Spielberg fanboy.

>> No.10905401
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>> No.10905402

Explain why geek culture is vapid.

>> No.10905404

>>10905307
kill all normies

>> No.10905405

>>10905379
Would read.

>> No.10905407

>>10905307
Start with the geeks.

>> No.10905417

>>10905307
Percy Jackson obviously.

>> No.10905423

>>10905392
Cash rules everything around me.

>> No.10905424

>>10905379
I would read it. I also need something like The Man Asleep but with a geek protag obssesed with japanese culture.

>> No.10905426
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CAPTAIN AMERICA!!!!

>> No.10905429

I thought this was Riley and we were still making fun of him for losing Mew.

>>10905379
Would read, but either needs a better title or damn good cover art.

>> No.10905432

>>10905307
I've never been that excited about anything in my life. Am I broken?

>> No.10905439
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>>10905402
It practically explains itself, anon. Grown men throw aside religion and philosophy and instead embrace silly comic books that were written to entertain children. These men spend all of their spare money on useless hunks of plastic and get orgasmic over formulaic blockbuster movies. If you don't see anything vapid about that then you're part of the problem.

>> No.10905440

>>10905432
Take into account that he's on camera looking for clicks, so his reactions are going to be turned up to 10.

>> No.10905444

>>10905432
No. It's not normal to be that excited about a fucking movie. I've been that excited after getting in a terrible car crash and not being injured, but that was a different emotion I think.

>> No.10905445

>>10905439
Who cares if they’re happy?
It’s not as if philosophy or literature have an particule value either.
Just do what makes you happy bro.

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>>10905445
>>10905449
I'm not falling for it. Geek culture manchildren don't browse /lit/.

>> No.10905468

>>10905307
Holy fuck. The soy-boys actually exist!

>> No.10905469

https://youtu.be/PKuKx5K7e4c?t=50s

>> No.10905472

>>10905379
Simply ebin. I'm sure it won't be didactic garbage.

>> No.10905475

>ppl don't realize this whole thread is viral marketing for captain america

keep bumping the ads you fucking pleb trash

>> No.10905478

>>10905392
>Why did Simon Pegg agree to star in Ready Player One
$$$$$

>> No.10905483

>>10905445
>>10905449
>haha just spend the rest of your life holed up in an opium den bro, as long as ur happy haha

>> No.10905484

>>10905445
>"Explain why geek culture is vapid."
>gets an answer
>"Who cares if they're happy?"
>"Just do what makes you happy bro."
Why are you trying to dodge the fact that geek culture is completely hollow?

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An old book about a murder of a nasty but popular science fiction author taking place at a convention.

>> No.10905496

>>10905483
Literature is an opium too.

>> No.10905497

>>10905445
>Who cares if they’re happy?
They're not, that's the problem. They've filled a hole in their life with pop culture knick-knacks

>> No.10905500

>>10905484
geek culture is just a nostalgia trip like sports fandom, it's not like people who watch sports arent just tripping back to their days in little league in grammar school or being a high school in hero or whatever, geek culture is the same stuff but for the less athletic, nostalgia for video games, cartoons, comic books, etc. feeding manchildren has always been big business

>> No.10905504

>>10905379
>Simon Pegg plays the main character in the inevitable movie adaptation.

You should make this part of the book as a sort of meta commentary.

>> No.10905506

>>10905496
Um no I think they're categorically distinct pleasures, retard

>> No.10905513

>>10905307
Is this deliberate parody? Surely people can't be this much of a soyboy by accident?

>> No.10905514

>>10905445
>>10905449
No one is saying there's something inherently wrong with enjoying comic books or blockbusters. The problem is the media have turned this meaningless entertainment into an identity. It's all a sinister marketing scheme and many of the people who fall for it end up leading meaningless lives.
>>10905500
The key difference is modern geek culture completely consumes people.

>> No.10905515

>>10905497
What do you think they should have to "full their hole" them?

>> No.10905516

>>10905506
Why?
There's almost no difference between Marvel movies and Homer works

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>>10905516

>> No.10905523

>>10905515
No one ultimately has to do anything. I just attack them because I think that their unbridled support of comic book film is ruining popular cinema, which is a passion of mine.

>> No.10905534

>>10905514
>The key difference is modern geek culture completely consumes people.

i guess u never met a hardcore sportsfan before

>> No.10905537

>>10905523
>popular cinema is a passion of mine

why do i bother reading a board filled with the weakest bait

>> No.10905539

>>10905534

Difference between sports fans and Capeshit consumers are that Capeshit consumers have zero integrity or personality of their own since they are warped up in letting companies make decisions for them when it comes to media.

>> No.10905548

>>10905392
I have not seen said greentext. Where may I find it?

>> No.10905549

>>10905537
Literally nothing inherently wrong with popular cinema. They're not superior to art film, but they do serve a particular purpose given that the scale they're capable of can't be achieved by any other sort of film

>> No.10905556

>>10905516
Just because their place in culture is similar does not mean there is no difference. That capeshit has entered such a prominent place in our culture is why it deserves so much disdain. Marvel movies lack artistry, lack substance, and lack meaning. It's a hostile take over of our mythos by literal plastic mongers.

>> No.10905564

>>10905539
sports fans are fans of corporate entities, the yankees today are completely different personnel than the yankees of twenty years ago, but people are still hardcore "yankees fans" etc. they're basically loyal to a logo, if you think sportsfans are not deplorable i urge you to go to some sportsfan bullshit, its just as lame as any anime or comic book convention, capeshit is just a way to sell merchandise to people too unathletic to get hooked on sports consumption

>> No.10905601

>>10905548
Never knew there was a greentext, but Pegg has been pretty vocal about his disdain for "nerd culture". Basically he rightly calls it out as a a consumerist cash grab which marketing moguls have taken advantage of to make big bucks. Ironic, then, that he ran to RP1 when Spielberg threw money his way.

>> No.10905607

>>10905564
There's a very big difference. Sports organizations bring a sense of community to their cities, and provide an economic locus of activity. They draw in tourists, and help establish a city as "legitimate". Additionally, they don't change all at once. This means, despite having none of the same personnel, there is still often a central attitude or culture or ethos that surrounds the team over time. The organization, and more importantly the fan base which drives it, maintain a continuous sense of character. Anime and comic book fandoms are a bastardization of this tribal derivative. They serve no function whatsoever. The only worth they have is in preserving and sharing creative work, which of course can only be valuable to the extent the creative work is valuable. Since most of it is vapid trash or childish fantasy, there is little good that comes out of it. To really see the difference, compare the models--geekdoms are sustained by the whales, they're propped up by the hardcore fan who spends an inordinate amount of money on product that no one else cares about, whereas sports teams, while having plenty of whales, rely on broad appeal. It is more important for the cubs to sell a hat to thousands of people, then to sell an entire wardrobe and lifestyle to a few hardcore fans. One relies on childish consumption habits, and the other relies on trivial enthusiasm.

>> No.10905608

>>10905564
>sports fans are fans of corporate entities
Only in pro sports. College sports has at least some modicum of integrity left, though it too has become a vehicle for rampant consumerism. At least with college sports there's actual history, rivalries, traditions, and school pride being played for.

>> No.10905618

>>10905548
>>10905601
http://simonpegg.net/2015/05/19/big-mouth-strikes-again/

>> No.10905639

>>10905601
It's possible there's something subversive about the movie then. Spielberg has made some remarks where he suggests that Hollywood needs to start making original movies again, stop just playing on everyone's nostalgia, and what not, right before selling RP1. A big issue of movie making is that it's steered by the people with money, not the people with the skills. Pegg's career is built off "nerd-dom". He can be mad at how hollywood studios are treating the things he loves, but he's not been able to find cross-over success in another genre. His only way of changing things is by making the money now, continuing to get bigger and bigger roles, and then using his money and influence to change what happens next. It's also a thing, where you don't exactly want to turn down Spielberg. He's one of the true kings of hollywood. The way he's been speaking, maybe this is his way of ending the game. Cline may be clueless, but Spielberg is not. Either he's completely cynical, or he's got something up his sleeve.

>> No.10905653

>>10905379
>SOYBMISSION

>> No.10905775

>>10905379
no don't. My life isn't ready for an biography.

>> No.10905888
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>>10905379
>real religion

>> No.10906374

>>10905888
A religion can be real but untrue.

>> No.10906392

>>10905639
Steven Spielberg is a pedophile who launders drug money

>> No.10906401

>>10906374
Where do you draw the line? Age? Number of stories? Number of worshipers? At what point does something stop being "pop culture" and become real culture? Is there any argument here beyond appeal to antiquity?

>> No.10906405

>>10906401
How many funko pops do you own?

>> No.10906419

>>10905307
Trailer reactions on YouTube are nothing but pure validation, both for the uploader and the viewer.

>> No.10906462

>>10906401
>At what point does something stop being "pop culture" and become real culture?
You're doing a sleight of hand there, I was talking about real religion, not real culture.

Real religion is that which is actually regarded as religion rather than something that somewhat resembles it.

>> No.10906464

>>10906419
80% of media discussion is just people trying to impress others with their opinions, in the hopes it will get them excepted. Nobody is completely exempt from this, it just seems so much worse when you can actually see the desperation in their eyes.

>> No.10906475

>>10906401
Real religion: Catholicism
Rest: untrue
Easy as that.

>> No.10906483

>>10906405
I'm not saying it's a good thing mate.
>>10906462
Even then, that's a hard line to draw. Is Mormonism a real religion? It's a recent phenomenon, we have plenty of accounts of its formation. If it's real because of its connection to Christianity does this validate every prophet who uses the bible as a reference?

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>>10905401

This so much

>> No.10906563

>>10906483
Are you deliberately missing the point? That anon was comparing religion to something like Marvel comics or Harry Potter.

>> No.10906732

>>10906475
Top kek

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>>10905488

>> No.10907666

>>10905324
Happiness is for children and older people. Adults should suffer and meditate about the weight of life.

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>>10907666
Of course Satan would say that

>> No.10907842

This thread needs more reading suggestions. How about:

I am Providence by Nick Mamatas
Jpod by Douglas Coupland
Microserfs by Douglas Coupland
Rapture of the Nerds by Doctorow and Stross
Any of Doctorow's many YA novels
You by Austin Grossman
Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson has some good sections on the topic

>> No.10907860

>>10907685
Oh, I didn't notice. The amount of times I've gotten 666 trips is insanely high. I'm a Christian so I don't know how to feel about it.

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>>10905307
Some OC

>> No.10908079

>>10905607
Comic book conventions do all of those things. Even Free Comic Book Day events, if you've been unfortunate enough to ever witness one, have people lining up down the street. People travel, book hotel rooms, spend boat loads of money to congregate at these events. There is a community to it.

Actually, anime expos are funny. Someone should take pics of crowds and play a guess if it's a Pride or an Anime event type game.

>> No.10908165

>>10905392
Because people know him for geek shit and it's an easy paycheck

>> No.10908224

>>10905307
The Culture Industry

>> No.10908283

>>10905324
>Maters of Doom
The story about Carmack breaking into his school with thermite, then telling the juvy officer he would do it again was great. Same with him simply ending their multi year D&D campaign after Romero got greedy and ended the world chasing some magical sword..
That whole book is fascinating. Definitely more of a biography about a collection of people, and the tech and business changes they started rather than video games

>> No.10908331

>>10905439
No one has seriously beleived in religion for decades, including everyone on this board. And philosophy has never been something the majority partook in.

>> No.10908470

>>10905379
That sounds good but choose another name that doesn't reek of /pol/.

>> No.10908520

>>10905324
Not like that, no.

>> No.10908716

>>10908283
Childhood is looking up to John Romero
Adulthood is realizing John Carmack is the actual cool guy of the group

>> No.10908745
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>>10905307
Unironically, the Frankfurt School. Yes, they're Jewish, yes, they're Marxists, but they have insightful criticisms of modern hyper-consumerism and the commodification of art.

>> No.10908757

>>10908470

What about Growing Down? I could add in some stuff about a cultural revolution happening where people literally go to war over defending their capeshit brands. I feel like this should be the next /lit/ writing project.

>> No.10908759

>>10905639
>It's possible there's something subversive about the movie then. Spielberg has made some remarks where he suggests that Hollywood needs to start making original movies again, stop just playing on everyone's nostalgia, and what not, right before selling RP1.

That's the joke.

>> No.10908780

>>10905424
>all weebs are geeks
you are retarded

>> No.10908783

>>10905439
>philosophy and religion
your trying too hard to fit in

>> No.10908793

>>10908716
I love Carmack.

>> No.10908798

>>10905504
Charlie Kaufman detected

>> No.10908803

>>10908780
I never said that. Just a geek that happens to be a weeb too.

>> No.10908911

>>10907666
The day that Satan is the voice of reason.

>> No.10908950

>>10905307
>What are some books about geek culture?
that would require that geeks have culture
what they have is memes
and in that vein, >>10905345 RPO is the meme book

>> No.10908958

>>10906374
>>10906401
they take the Jordan Peterson view on religion.

cain and abel is a true story because it reveals that murders happen

>> No.10908962

>>10905379
>>10908757
>people literally go to war over defending their capeshit brands
kek. I would unironically buy such a book if written seriously. I can actually picture a soyboy army marching with a 300 lb neckbeard holding a flag with the logo of his favorite franchise. The anti pop culture movement could be a conglomeration of /pol/ and /leftypol/ types who hunt down Hollywood and gaming executives and dragging out from their homes in the middle of the night.

>> No.10908963

>>10908962
geeks don't behave this way
geekls who go to comic con behave this way

>> No.10908986

>>10905429
Riley unjusted himself, we're waiting for him to get that Scottish cocksucker!

>> No.10909004

>>10905324
>What have you never been excited before?
About a trailer for an extended toy commercial? Can't say I have, side effects of testosterone you see

>> No.10909033

>>10905379
keep us updated on your progree

>> No.10909052

>>10905402
It is because becoming part of the culture is nothing more than a trend. Those that participate in it only do so for some sort of pathetic validation by lord knows who. Their enjoyment and claims of being a fan are just superficial. When you get down to it, it's nothing more than a front. A front to make up their lack of a personality or any other interesting traits.

>> No.10909053

>Disney has managed to make a generation of intellectually defective effeminate men grow emotionally attached to some bland, dull, artless franchise of grown up dudes dressing up as comic characters and fighting other sunday morning cartoon characters
Legit evil but brilliant nonetheless

>> No.10910341

>>10905407

>> No.10910348

>>10905324
>he's just reacting to trailer

Why do people even watch these videos? Why do people care about some literary whos reaction to trailer

>> No.10910356

>>10909053
pop culture has literally always been like this

>> No.10910364

>>10910356
Look at the highest grossing movies of any given year in the 70s. They weren't nearly as infantile

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>>10905402
it is not "culture" so much that capitalism is a "culture". without going into quasi-religious comparison such as >>10905439 but entertainment and virtue filled heroes are what people are going to idolize of what makes a strong person. But they never explore the grey areas of morality, because for the most part like villains and heroes., its black and white and easy to stand on the same side as those who are championed.

But geek culture isn't so much predicated on just watching or reading comics and such, its being spurned as "LE SCIENCE IS EPIC XDDD" meanwhile 90% of them are scientifically illiterate and industrial capitalism encourages this overconsumption of Netflix originals, Marvel and Disney films coming out every week and a compulsion to keep buying in order to stay up to date.

I know several friends who have almost gone bankrupt because of the over excessive consumption of exclusive video game bundles, movie tickets, a litany of merchandise and other accouterments that eclipse any semblance of personality. You can enjoy all those things, and still be a functional human but the "culture" rests on constant information constant watching without any real though

>> No.10910457

>>10910356
Like a cult? No, it didn't

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>>10910356
adolescent culture didn't exist until the middle class was invented, and that was less that 100 years ago, so if by always you mean the last 50 years, maybe and even then that's debatable

what you have now arguably is adolescent culture becoming all culture and replacing any sort of "adult" lifestyle