>anti-Natalism

[Anonymous No.10893630]

[Anonymous No.10893668]

>>10893630
that's just another word for depression

[Anonymous No.10893674]

Hey don't knock it. Would you really want an antinatalist to breed anyway?

[Anonymous No.10893678]

>>10893630
more people = more pollution

[Anonymous No.10893682]

>>10893678
Quality over Quantity, not no Quantity at all, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10893688]

>>10893678
why do commies hate people

[Anonymous No.10893693]

>>10893688
why do you care about worthless millions that contribute nothing? also, individualists are the opposites of communists and likewise hate people

>>10893682
I agree

[Anonymous No.10893698]

>>10893688
Why do you assume he's a communist?

[Anonymous No.10893704]

>people keep reproducing like animals
>overpopulate the earth
>old animals will refuse to die because of better technology
>space colonization is still far from reality
How will you purge them then? War?

[Anonymous No.10893707]

>>10893704
Gulag.

[Anonymous No.10893712]

>>10893704
depopulate africa the middle east and the UK

[Anonymous No.10893840]

>>10893698
i didn't make any assumptions, i asked a question
>>10893693
human life is precious you atheist piece of shit

[Anonymous No.10893854]

>>10893688
Commies are the last people to be anti-natalist. Who do you think are all the people bullshiting about "population growth"? That's right, billionaires.

You might find some misanthropic greenies who know little to nothing about economics, production, or even ecology, who would gladly genocide people for their idealised "Nature".

[Anonymous No.10893865]

>>10893854
>Who do you think are all the people bullshiting about "population growth"? That's right, elite liberals who are far-left but not full marxist...yet.

Fixed.

[Anonymous No.10893875]

>>10893840
>human life is precious
O how fortune favors you. Ignorance is a bless.
>>10893707
>>10893712
See, you can't come up with a real answer.

[Anonymous No.10893899]

>>10893865
>...yet
Lay off the ellipses, Mr Anime. They're called neoliberals by the way, there haven't been elite liberals since the 19th century.

[Anonymous No.10893901]

>>10893840
>human life is precious

to you, maybe

It would please me more to remove the worthless to prevent unnecessary destruction of our planet

[Anonymous No.10893904]

>>10893704
Give everyone feminism and secularism so their birhtrates drop to below replacement levels

[Anonymous No.10893931]

antinatalism for everyone except me and my bros and those l deem worthy or eugenic

[Anonymous No.10893933]

>>10893931
this

[Anonymous No.10893949]

>>10893865
>liberals
>far-left

???????????

[Anonymous No.10893961]

I don't want children, they're fucking annoying. also I'm pretty sure humanity has like a good 20 year before everything goes to shit with how we're losing oil and are resorting to fracking, tension between russia rising, nationalists coming in front of camras, it's all going to go to shit

[Anonymous No.10893973]

>>10893961
by the time we're 80 the earth is fucked

[Anonymous No.10893987]

Any Anti-natalist books that are good?

[Anonymous No.10893989]

>>10893961
Time to take up the banner of ecoterror, my friend. We'll take on fracking companies, Russia, nationalists, e-readers...

[Anonymous No.10893999]

>>10893973
exactly. You think i want to be like the man in the road, dragging a child through hell and shit? Honestly i'm doing little timmy a favor not nutting in a girl
>>10893989
It's too late for that anon. all i can do is hope that gun control is still loose while i stockpile for the mad max era

[Anonymous No.10894002]

>>10893949
>liberals anywhere but left and far left
>_>
<_<
@_@

[Anonymous No.10894229]

>>10893668
Unironically this, I've never met an antinatalist who wasn't depressed

[Anonymous No.10894249]

>>10894229
I'm not depressed and think people should stop reproducing

[Anonymous No.10894264]

>>10894249
Well, there's going to be exceptions like you but the vast majority of antinatalists I've seen were depressed. You can go on r/antinatalism and half of the posts are just people complaining about life and about terrible it is. And a lot of them also happened to frequent r/depression and r/santiocedsuicide.

[Anonymous No.10894369]

>>10893630
Funnily enough, the best argument in favor of anti-natalism are the anti-natalists.

[Anonymous No.10894557]

>>10893630
It's called Leftism. I believe it should be made a more explicit part of the doctrine so as to cleanse the gene pool of left-wing people.

[Anonymous No.10894612]

>>10893904
when this is actually true desu

[Anonymous No.10894622]

>>10894229
literally not an argument though. if "your mental state led you to this conclusion, therefore it's invalid and gay" is your position, then an anti-natalist could use that same standard to say that you're just a full of shit optimist high on brain chemicals and that the reason you have your outlook is a convergence of privilege that has allowed you to live a life where you haven't become a pessimist. on the dime of immense cruelty and suffering.

maybe the problem is you are just reading anti-natalist shitposting by redditors instead of actual anti-natalism

[Anonymous No.10894625]

>>10893904


I too left religion for atheism.

Unlike you, perhaps, I didn't immediately seek a replacement to fill the void in my life. For those who have not grown up in religion, it is important to realize how religion becomes a part of your identity. When you leave it, it feels like you have lost a part of yourself.

My primary goals when I realized I was an atheist, was to look for the truth, which I've always defined as "that which comports with reality." I began researching epistemology, ethics, law, and general areas of philosophy.

As for my personal development, and what it meant to be an atheist, I realized more and more that the shackles of religion no longer ensnared me--I was free to pursue my own happiness and goals. To a religious person, such a revelation seems sinful, damnable, selfish, and earthly. I found, however, that this meant a life more fruitful and enjoyable.

This doesn't mean I only look out for myself, but it does mean I can decide how much time, energy, and money I put into things; I don't have a holy book telling me how to do that.

I would recommend both the Recovering from Religion website and the Atheist Experience TV Show as valuable resources for new atheists. The first provides some of the community you might be looking for (even if only online/virtual) and the second has excellent answers to many questions posed by atheists and theists alike.

Best of luck!

[Anonymous No.10894816]

It's pretty useless to respond to posts like this because I know that no one will be persuaded, but I can't resist. That a being will suffer is the only guarantee when it is introduced into this world. Suffering is the state that all beings are promptly greeted with if they fail to take in the necessary inputs. If we fail to eat, then will get hungry. If we fail to drink, then we will get thirsty. If we fail to make friends, then we will get lonely. Furthermore, even if we do manage to procure these necessities, we can be struck by a car while crossing the street or contract a disease out of nowhere such that our lives become suddenly hellish. It is assured to us that as we grow older our minds will rot and our bodies will become decrepit. This is not the kind of world that a kid should be brought into. Birthing a child is plainly an imposition of a potentially unbearable amount of suffering onto a being and a definite death sentence for that being. There is simply no arguing around this.

The eventual extinction of the human race is inevitable; the only thing that we can do is reduce the amount of suffering that occurs between now and then by peacefully speeding it along. Moreover, we must strive to eliminate as much of the other life on Earth as possible.

[Anonymous No.10894941]

Here's the best way to btfo a anti-natalist:
Suffering doesn't have a negative or positive moral value as morality is the regulation of actions done by autonomous being which is regulated by rationality and not emotion. If a being is controlled by emotions then the being can't be moral as it is in a state of heteronomy and not autonomy which is a presupposition for morality.

Anti natalists are pseuds.

[Anonymous No.10894970]

>>10893704
This is not a western problem. The only people that ever talk of anti-natalism are westerners, when it is quite obvious that the problem lies in Africa and Asia. European and (white) American birthrates are already low, below replacement rate.

[Anonymous No.10894974]

>>10894625
Reddit get off this board. wtf hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.10894978]

>>10893630
Anti-natalists are usually depressed, reddit-browsing crybabies. That's it. The western world is not the problem, look at the population predictions for the rest of the world, especially for Africa. The problem is that Europeans are not having enough kids

[Anonymous No.10894984]

>>10893630
The good thing about Anti-natalists is that they wouldn't have children anyway, before they ever encountered anti-natalism. Most of them are just under the illusion that they are making a choice, their anti-natalism is a way of accepting that they are unwanted.

[Anonymous No.10894985]

>tfw used to be antinatalist until i realised i need young people to pay for my welfare and take care of me in my old age

[Anonymous No.10894989]

>>10894984
getting some dumb broad pregnant is the easiest thing in the world even for unattractive people. the default in society is to breed (accidentally), it's hard to avoid rather than hard to accomplish.

[Anonymous No.10895003]

>no one is harmed by not being brought into existence
>everybody is harmed by being brought into existence
You niggers are too dumb to follow that?

[Anonymous No.10895029]

>>10894229
I can only assume I'm the exception to the rule as most antinatalists are awful people to be around in my experience but I'm not depressed in the slightest.

Eating 8+ fruit and veg a day, regular exercise and meditation are what I attribute my great mood to

[Anonymous No.10895036]

>>10893987
Benatar
Schopenhauer

[Anonymous No.10895096]

>>10895003
>harm reduction principle
Jesus christ is there something more simplistic than this? Well aside from consent morality.
>everybody is harmed by being brought into existence
"you" are not brought into existence, that implies there is someone before you exist who is the passive recipient of some action. That of course is nonsense because there is no you before you exist.

[Anonymous No.10895143]

>>10895096
You are not undermining it's value by calling it simplistic. Life is simplistic. Stay alive until you can fuck by killing other living creatures and eating them, fuck, die. Repeat this for millions of years and you get humans. We, however, possess the mental capacity to stop this meaningless game.

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[Anonymous No.10895235]

>>10895210
When she wakes up she has a surprise lol