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Anyone looking to study /lit/?
I'm going for econ this fall, but considering a double major or minor in literature or philosophy to help with law school if I wind up going for it.

>> No.10848914

>econ

>> No.10848926

Why the fuck would you go to law school? Being a lawyer is notoriously unpleasant, and the profession is collapsing, so you probably won't even get hired. If you're so in love with money, there are better options.

>> No.10848935

>>10848914
fpbp

>> No.10848939

By the way OP, I went to U Chicago. It's a good school, but all of the humanities professors under 60 are doctrinaire commies and the stuents are all idiot spoiled Econ bros, their gold-digger sorority girlfriends, dem-soc idiots, and rabidly autistic sjw's. So all I'm saying is, be wary and think for yourself.

>> No.10848941

>>10848926
hence why I said "if." I've never heard a positive thing about law, but it's still enticing. I think I have a romantic idea of law. Not even sitcom bs criminal law, I would aim for constitutional law.
>>10848914
Economic theory is a patrician field

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10848944

I do physics
Would gladly have gotten a minor in english or literature or whatever if my goddamn stem school offered it

>> No.10848948

>>10848941
Fuck "if," don't even think. Having romantic delusions is one thing. Letting them ruin your life and put you into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt is quite another.

>> No.10848956

>>10848939
>doctrinaire commies and the stuents are all idiot spoiled Econ bros, their gold-digger sorority girlfriends, dem-soc idiots, and rabidly autistic sjw's
To be fair this describes every top twenty school today

>> No.10848959

>>10848939
spotted the resentful trumptard

>> No.10848962

>>10848956
this describes all colleges going back to the mid 19th century
>>10848948
you're making me want to kick over fish tank anon, careful

>> No.10848963

>>10848956
We'll, not Notre Dame ("Affable Catholic normies")

>> No.10848965

>>10848939
I wish I was there when Richard McKeon and Norman Maclean and Albert Michaelson all taught there.

>> No.10848978

freshman @ other top uni slightly north of chicago. majoring in film even though i prefer lit and philosophy because i think film is a far more viable medium for being seen/being successful (comparatively). probably going to double major in comparative literature, seems more interesting than english lit. i love philosophy for its ideas but the focus of writing in the two (to be fair fairly introductory courses) have been about dumbing down everything into simple variables that can work and logically progress in your closed system devoid of the complexity of life it's supposed to represent.

also majoring in some major depression haha :) idk man, i don't know if this is exclusive to my uni but it feels so isolating to be interested in sort of the ideas behind things and to think compulsively and unambiguously to the bottom of things. i thought the whole normie and soyboy thing was an internet meme but people here just seem to be cultural products parroting opinions with "organic" worldviews that just happen to reflect a slightly individuated rephrasing of some accepted viewpoint. and as someone who just does a lot of cardio and doesn't do more than 30 pushups a day, the people in the lit classes i've taken have appeared so emasculated and bland. i keep hoping there's people in the woodworks who are gonna reveals themselves and chirp up in class and raise a genuinely interesting point that'll have me scratching my noggin.

but yeah my point i guess is that no one has genuine individual taste/opinions combined with critical thinking. it's all just different clichés of thought-structures. again, maybe i'm just at the wrong school. the idea of liberal arts colleges really appealed to me but i think how that actually manifests with posturing kids seeking identity and wanting to be seen as unique and intellectual and so on would have depressed me even more.

how're your guys' uni experiences?

>> No.10848981

>>10848959
I'm an accelerationist. Succ me off, brainlet. My description is purely objective.


Tell me this isn't "rabidly autistic"
https://www.chicagomaroon.com/article/2014/11/25/admin-student-confirm-fake-facebook-hack/

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>>10848978
Is this a new copypasta?

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10848989

I'm doing French and Spanish. I wish I had not fucked around as I did in school so that I weren't at pseud-central. I would go with philosophy to beef up your logic, as you probs already know, phil majors do the best on the LSAT, on average.
>>10848956
Pretty much any top forty school too

>> No.10848991

>>10848981
>2014
resentful indeed

>> No.10848995

>>10848981
Not worse than Columbias mattress girl

>> No.10848997

>>10848939
Sounds like every college

>> No.10849000

>>10848978
>"Successful"
>in any creative field


Good post tho, I felt the same way about University. The real benefit isn't what you learn so much as the "emperor wears no clothes" revelation. It's even the "elite" are so petty and vacuous, it makes you feel like you can do anything.

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>> No.10849005

>>10848991
Not really, it's just a good example. I wouldn't call that par for the course exactly, but it was hardly shocking either, given the atmosphere there, which in fact still persists.

>> No.10849019

>>10848911
good school, good choice of major imo, but forget the stupid double major (it won't help) and take foreign language courses instead while you can. trust me, you won't regret it.

also, don't go to law school. even the "best" law jobs are terrible.

>> No.10849031

Doing literature, graduating in a month. Be prepared for new Marxist post modernist propaganda to be shoveled down your throat. Think like them or you won’t score well at all.

>> No.10849042

>>10848978
>freshman
don't worry, we could tell

>> No.10849045

>first year at a t14 law school

sup goys? it's actually chill and not that bad

>> No.10849060

>>10849045
Been there, done that. You're right, it's not nearly as challenging as people make it out to be.

What's your career plan?

>> No.10849078

>>10849060
i'll have zero debt. but probably a few years of big law and then reassess. from there work remotely and live abroad or start a family and go comfy in house

what do u do?

>> No.10849093

>>10849042
>>10848987
I mean, yeah, I'm really doubtful over my feelings and thoughts but that's sort of why I posted without qualifying everything or taking steps back. Like I want the problem to be me because it's actually possible to change myself and my outlook on things, but every experience seems to keep confirming and deepening my dread, and again, if i have a shitty/deluded outlook on myself, others, and the world i'll see what i want to see. So, could you guys elaborate? It'd be really helpful to me.

>>10849000
Yeah, that's completely been my takeaway so far, both incredibly depressing and really inspiring.

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10849104

My alma mater. Don't go here. Don't let your friends go here. Don't let your kids here. Don't let your friends' kids go here.

It's a campus full of type A, pre-med autists who only understand social interaction in the form of undercutting each other to improve their chances of becoming wealthy doctors. It's a haven of neuroteses and mental illness where the school's unofficial policy is to try and convince you to at least transfer to another institution before you drop out, and our drinking culture reflects that whole heartedly. The real Davidson motto is "win or lose, the cats will booze" because everyone is in a constant drinking stupor to try and make it through their days. Panic attacks are common and school spirit is not.

>> No.10849117

>>10848978
>film

>> No.10849121

>>10848978
Change your fucking major.

>> No.10849129

>>10849104
it's pretty sad how little campus culture is spoken about or understood in highschool

yeah, you visit colleges to get a 'feel' for them, but you don't realize just how soul crushing it is to be surrounded by educated losers until you're stuck there year two

it's like waking up in a years long dead end relationship

>> No.10849132

>>10849078
I'm more or less in the exact same boat as you, but kinda wish I had done something else.

I want to know which school you're at but that's probably an instant self-doxx.

>> No.10849142

nope. im getting a business degree with a concentration in accounting cause id like to make money.

>> No.10849171

>>10849142
I did this. People will shit on you but remember they’re neets who think they’ll write a book one day and make it

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2L in massive debt at a shitty low ranked law school here.


>>10848941
>romanticized
You got that right. Con law isn't even a thing you go practice. It's in every field. It's the basis of our fucking legal system. You have to know con law to do ANY law.
>>10849045
I remember how lovely the blinders were 1L year. Good times. Now I don't have enough focus to care like I did the first year, even though everything just keeps piling up.

>> No.10849207

who /stuttgart/ here?

>> No.10849245

>be whistful teenager
>think I'm going to go to Cornell or some place like that and have an apartment overlooking the city and write fiction on an old fashioned typewriter, be a really cool and mysterious intellectual dude
>wind up going to state uni in my hometown because I was lazy and didn't apply anywhere else
>spend a semester in English lit and really enjoy it but let myself get pressured out by family and friends who think it's pointless
>finally develop some real sense of self and kinda also wish I'd stayed in English instead of going on to try a bunch of things I hate and failing at them because of that bougie ass pressure that gets put on you to maintain your class status as an upper middle class kid by becoming an engineer or some shit
>still write, it's a lot better, but I'm just writing stories in notebooks for myself
>after dropping the pretention of thinking I have to write some great work of literature and be super important someday I can just write for self expression and pleasure
Sorry for the blog post, I just felt like sharing.

>> No.10849255

>>10848911
I toured U Chicago in high school and noticed four things. First, the tour guide spoke with a lisp, and rolled his eyes. Second, everyone who presented during the tour had clenched hands, as though they were very tense and nervous. Third, the place was littered with cigarette butts. And fourth, the entire campus was a mishmash of old beautiful architecture and disgusting modern buildings that didn't match at all.

I'm not saying I would have gotten in, but it was enough to convince me not to apply.

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>>10848911
asu

350pgs left in infinite jest

>> No.10849295

>>10849255
i.e. don't go to university in America

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10849481

Any other patricians?

>> No.10849482

>>10849245
I share your fantasies

>> No.10849530

>>10848911
>the entire campus was a mishmash of old beautiful architecture and disgusting modern buildings that didn't match at all.
That's every college campus now. Too many schools, too much marketing, too many dumbfucks at the top. I can't go to my college now. It was a masterpiece of staid redbrick classicalism, towering trees and immaculate lawns and now it's pockmarked with modern workout buildings and a gorgonian glass-walled student union complex, the sight of which sent me to my car never to return

>> No.10849533

Fiction MFA

SDSU

Fun stuff.

>> No.10849556

How is this /lit/-related? Go fuck yourselves, uni-thots.

>> No.10849561

>>10849031
>Think like them or you won’t score well at all.
Not getting stoned and concocting a rhetorically flashy idiosyncratic reading that your prof can't understand so he gives you an A. This is the only reason to be a lit major. When they see criticism that is actually a work of art they are almost always going to be embarrassed to feed it through their usual lens

>> No.10849576

>>10849556
t. FiIthy Neet

>> No.10849590

>>10849576
Wrong, I graduated three years ago, spent a year in army service and now I have a decent job now that doesn't even require me to work.
Ecoutez, mes hommes, uni is fine and all that, but you all build your hopes up too much, it's just another stage in life and nothing exciting will ever happen to you.

>> No.10849606

Undergrad: Cornell
Grad School: Duke
Subject: Biology
Opinion: These bragging threads are a crutch. They just help stoke your ego.


Kill the ego.

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Anyone go uoa? Need some mates

>> No.10849653

>>10848963
> implying
They’re funding abortion for staff and students.

>> No.10849666 [DELETED] 

>>10849615
i got accepted but bailed last minute to become a neet

>> No.10849898

Universities are just leftist shillgrounds now, I have not gone and have no desire to do so.

>> No.10849935

>>10849898
Not every uni is Berkely. If you don't have any real talent, then yeah, don't go to uni, but if you have what it take to be a great engineer, then not going to MIT or CalTech because you saw some videos of feminazis on youtube is kinds dumb.

>> No.10849939

>>10849481
What's up my dude. Annapolis or bust.

>> No.10850148

>>10849142
>assets = equity + liabilities
wow, tough stuff

>> No.10850352

My cousin went there for undergrad. Drop the double major, unless it's something quantitative. Focus on research or something else you're passionate about. Value the people you'll meet at a school of that caliber, and make friends early on.

>> No.10850439

>>10849104
That sounds like Georgia Tech if you replace the undercutting pre-meds with groveling engineers who will suck your cock if you say the word "internship" or cs kiddies that talk about startups like they're Jehovah's Witnesses

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>leaking roof
>cats, dogs, and even goats
>studying in pillars modified into "rooms"
>only 15 chairs so the other 10 students stand during class
>no tables for the ones that sit
>doing exams without a table
>toilets without soap or toilet paper
>no coffee bar or food bar
>and plenty more

Meet the public university in Skopje, Macedonia (aka the hell on earth country).

>> No.10850450

>>10849093
The point of college is that you're supposed to utilize the resources given to you to enhance your own learning along with the classes provided to you. Yes, you're correct that a lot of college students think in cliches and there are a lot of people who are less than curious in themselves, but that's where finding your own cliques and groups of people who share your proclivities comes in.

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>>10849093
I’ll be honest, I think the same way sometimes, but that’s because I have low self-esteem and an inferiority complex. If the problem seems to be with everybody else, it’s probably with you.

This isn’t to say that the majority are infallible, in fact, far from it. But in this situation, where one feels as though they are superior to most people they talk to, it is most likely ignorance and arrogance on our part. You must eliminate it like any other bias: experience and logically dismantling the bias every time you catch it influencing your thinking.

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>>10848911
Consider a Christian/Jesuit school, even if you're not religious. It seems to moderate the "muh activism" sentiment among 19 year olds.

>> No.10850489

>>10848939
>muh commie professors
Fuck off back to /pol/ retard.

>> No.10850496

>>10848978
>comparative literature, seems more interesting than english lit
Agreed. Wish this had been my major. Trying to get into a masters program for it now but having a hard time because of my undergrad major.

>> No.10850520

>>10848978
>feels so isolating to be interested in sort of the ideas behind things and to think compulsively and unambiguously to the bottom of things
It's not just your uni. Every school I've been to for any amount of time (3) has had this. Uni has become something like high school and it depresses the fuck out of me. People are there just because they feel like they "have" to be to get jobs. No one is there to learn let alone create new knowledge. At least until you get to the phd level and then 7/8ths of the people (at least) are just pushing ideology behind the mask of research. I have never found someone at any school that I've considered my equal in terms of how I think.

>no one has genuine individual taste/opinions combined with critical thinking
Yup. I also have no liberal arts experience but I hope to God it's better than large research unis.

>> No.10850534

>>10849031
>Be prepared for new Marxist post modernist propaganda to be shoveled down your throat. Think like them or you won’t score well at all.
What's it like being functionally retarded in university?

>> No.10850568

>>10849093
>>10850520 here again,
I graduated last year and I can tell you that even when I got into my upper 400 level classes nothing I said changed. No one had any deep insight. No one had any new points of view to add. I should also mention that I went to one of the most diverse schools in the country, even having some people from Cuba and one from North Korea. Nothing was different. All the Stacys and Chads (which accounted for roughly 60% of each class) would just sit and play on Facebook and then all ask for help from the people paying attention then share the best notes from each person. Then suck up to the professor for brownie points to get better grades on the more subjective assignments like papers and the like.
The rest of the class would just do the work like any other busy work, never interrupting, never asking questions, never adding anything. Just being "good students." I really hate that it's drilled into kids from an early age to never interrupt adults because you end up with these zombie young adults who hate "adulting" and can't think for themselves or solve problems.
I remember one incident in particular where I was in my Real Estate lecture (ECON 4XX). I had brought up a point that instead of using Y data as a proper way to show X that we could use Z as a better measure because it eliminated some extraneous variables. Mind you my professor is an adjust who works full time for congress as his day job. He actually stopped the lecture and had to think about it for a minute before modeling a little bit and saying that what I had thought of was actually a very unique way to solve the problem and seemed to have some real benefits and that he'd have to look into it more to see if this was something that could add to the way we taught subject X. He was legitimately thrilled that a student had actually made a new contribution even if at such a surface level.
After that same class a kid came up to me and asked why I had to do that because it bothered them and made them look bad for not having said something first. This other student was actually upset with me for doing what I did. It blew my mind.
So no, it doesn't get better.

>> No.10850580

>>10849129
They really need to do more in general for high school kids in regards to teaching them what colleges to pick. At my high school we had one visit to one local small school, then we had some reps from the major state school come. That was literally it.

>> No.10850585

>>10849245
Are you me?

>> No.10850588

>>10849267
You guys have an amazing campus. I was there two years ago for a pool tournament.

>> No.10850594

>>10849481
>>10849939
I don't go there but I'm from the area. 10/10 town if it weren't so fucking cold in winter. The humid winters just make the cold stick to your fucking bones.

>> No.10850603

>>10849898
>I also primarily post on /pol/
You should stay there.

>> No.10850617
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Headed here in fall.

Is there a reason to take philosophy classes or should I just read whatever I want and focus on Biochem and Marine Biology classes

>> No.10850646

>>10849045
Really? I've always heard 1L is hell but that it gets bad after that. What are some of the most popular law fields students take? I'm a junior undergrad, not interested in litigation, would rather be a transactional lawyer of some sort.

>> No.10850878

>>10850489
How about you get the fuck off my board you commie parasite?

>> No.10850879

>>10850617
Biochem and especially marine biology are just as useless as philosophy career-wise

>> No.10850886

>>10848978
>freshman @ other top uni slightly north of chicago
Northwestern?

>> No.10850931

>>10848944
lcc, my friend

>> No.10850984

>tfw I go to a uni so shitty I'm ashamed to post it.
I'm about to graduate, and I'm still angry at myself for going no here.

>> No.10851006

>>10848978
Inclúyanme en la captura de pantalla.

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Patrician checking in

>> No.10851077

>>10850878
>my board
Or you can go the fuck back to /pol/

>> No.10851080

>>10848939
What's wrong with being a communist?

>> No.10851086

>>10851059
based

>> No.10851110

>>10851086
thaks senpai

>> No.10851133

>>10849245
What the hell are you me

>> No.10851143

>>10849481
I was accepted but I fell for the stem meme and went to a local school. Now I want to transfer but I don’t want to be in college for 5 years.

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hate this place for so many reasons but the /lit/ education is actually pretty good so I haven't left yet

>> No.10851159

>>10850931
Do you mean lmc? If so I know like two of them and even they have no idea what the major actually entails, it seems like a series of buzzwords about "communication" strung together into a degree.
If it's anything like the absolute jokes that are our english classes I would never go near the program. My english 1102 was fucking "folklore in videogames."

>> No.10851163

Unironically thinking of doing an Open University degree.

Now before you Americans tell me it's a scam, it's not, the Open Uni in the UK offers degrees that are worth the same as every other university and are all accredited.

The benefits are quite simple: 1. it's much cheaper, and 2. you can do it from home in your spare time. I know going to university and meeting people is part of the experience but I already have one degree so I don't need to relive my youth.

>> No.10851173

>>10851163
Hey Anon, not a bad idea but if you want grad school letters of reference are crucial

>> No.10851200

>>10851163
>Now before you Americans tell me it's a scam, it's not, the Open Uni in the UK offers degrees that are worth the same as every other university and are all accredited.
How the hell do you know they're "worth the same?" From their advertising pamphlets? No employer is going to look at that and not laugh at you.
What degree are you looking at and what are you planning to use it for

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Studied philosophy and then law here. A tremendously comfy place.

I actually enjoyed law school but could not fathom ever working as a lawyer. The interesting work is high-stress and low-pay (e.g. criminal defense), the rest of it will probably ruin your mind.

I hated all of the networking required so I never actually even found a position after graduating, but I had fortunately been stockpiling cryptocurrencies since 2016 so I'm set for a long time now. I don't have "fuck you" money but I don't need to work.

Contemplating returning to school for computer science or possibly trying the academic philosophy route. Giving myself a few years to think about it.

>> No.10851249

>>10849481

Damn this place sounds amazing. 8:1 student to teacher ratio, only 500 students, looks nice, they don't give a shit about grades, just 4 years of being comfy and reading and discussing the canon.

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M.A. in Philosophy, Graduate School of Arts & Sciences

>> No.10851284

>>10851200
Well the first thing is that the degrees are accredited, I hope you know what that implies: you get the same education as every other nationally recognised degree (this is all I care about because I'm doing the degree for fun).

The second thing is you can look at employment rates within 6 months of graduating, and information on starting salaries is available, if you're worried about money.

But more importantly we need to stop this juvenile idea that somehow employers give a fuck about what university you went to, unless it's Oxford or Cambridge, in which case yes, those definitely catch their attention. For everything else experience/portfolio is waaay more important.

>> No.10851350

>>10851245
>I hated all of the networking required so I never actually even found a position after graduating
are you me

>> No.10851388

>>10851278
Very jelly belly
what was your GRE?

>> No.10851429

>>10850617
I met someone at a conference who studied philosophy there and she had no idea what continental philosophy was

>> No.10851525

>>10851278
GRE?
>>10851153
Thinking of transfering to there from Tulane, no go?

>> No.10851546

>>10850617
this is a really bad school, the phil department is filled with people who shouldn't be in college. You really fucked up mate. study something worth money if you're going to a bad school and try your hardest to be accepted to grad school or PhD program.

>> No.10851554

>>10851525
it's probably a good academic stepup from Tulane but just know the community is absolute shit/non-existent and made up of silver spooned one percenters whos hobbies literally only consist of shopping. if you're confident in your ability to find friends among the few bearable people in the whole school it'll probably be great because nyc is a great place to be while young, but you might be miserable. i know i am.

>> No.10851570

>>10851159
A Florida University? (Going off course code)

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who /NESCAC/

>> No.10851653

>>10849481
The only thing stopping me from this school is the fact that my degree would be in liberal arts and not literature, something that would probably keep
Me out of academia in English

Any thoughts? Should I just major in English somewhere instead?

>> No.10851698

>>10851554
This perfectly described Tulane, except much more cocaine and an actual campus. I think I would like it, but I may just tough it out and go to Columbia for graf since it's easy here. Maybe I'll transfer to a school called New College in Florida. Thanks. Do they give good aide?

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>>10850879
>>10851429
>>10851546

fugg :(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

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make way, brainlets! here comes the hidden gem of the east coast!
going here for my third mates license, but also majoring in marine environmental science and minoring in marine biology.
the maritime industry > your industry

>> No.10851932

>>10851653
>something that would probably keep me out of academia in English
No? Are you retarded?

>> No.10851957

Only plebs say 'uni'.
US or UK or AUS.

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>DUDE LE UNTHINKING MASSES WHY DOES EVERYWHERE SUCK
kys

>> No.10852044

>>10848978
Spot on. The only intriguing talk I had so far in my uni was with a philosophy proffessor who was baffled by the fact that I was interested in perennial philosophers and that I actually read their works outside school. Spoke an hour and a half with him after class about Evola, Guenon, Godel, Heidegger to the point where he invited me to go to the local pub with him and his other friend who introduced him to perennial philosophy not too long ago

>> No.10852075

Threads like this make me sad I was such a degenerate in high school. Fucked me up real good for a decent education. Ya'll do your best

>> No.10852090
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I go to Harvard and every day I wake up and slide my windows shut, pick up my pillow, and start screaming into it as loud as possible. This immediately wakes my roommate up, because I'm using him as a pillow. I then proceed to put on my bathrobe, and I leave our dorm (Weld, named after the Weld family you faggots) and I go to my first class. It's this seminar with the biggest fraud ever, aka Ned Hall in the philosophy department. I sit there thinking about how great it's going to be to jerk off when I get back to my room, and when the urges subside I decide that it'd be best if I just went straight to the library instead. I go through the back of Widener so I can use the handicap restroom on the basement floor.

I then take the elevator up to third floor, and slowly groove my way down the judaica corridor (the long way) to the north part of the library, where the stairs for the 2nd floor are. I then sit in the reading room with my laptop and stare inanely at my laptop for several hours before my next class. I do nothing this entire time. Mostly, I am asleep.

>> No.10852100

>>10851059
Anyone else at Michigan State?

>> No.10852122

>>10848911
Do they still have that one philosophy professor who teaches an intro survey course and just stands at the podium and reads old papers out loud

fuck that dude

>> No.10852129

>>10849245
Gj dude

>> No.10852140

>>10852075
Same

>> No.10852145

>>10852140
Yeah

>> No.10852152

Currently struggling to get up the motivation to finish my undergrad thesis

I'm ready to be done with college

>> No.10852480

>>10849481
Is it as good as it sounds?


Will I have a job

>> No.10852487

>>10850594
Isn't Annapolis mad expensive?

>> No.10852521
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Hello everyone.

English Literature here, EU student. I'm usually the only male, or one in two or three, in all my classes. The rest of my classmates are your average northern brit girls so it's not as great as you might imagine.

The course itself is bretty gud. Great range of texts, and very insightful professors. Most of the PC/SJW bullshit I came to expect from humanities is usually merely suggested in lectures, and hardly discussed in seminars.

>> No.10852559

>>10852090

(you)

holworthy better

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the BEST university in Scotland

1st year Philosophy/Literature joint honours

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>> No.10852685

>>10852480
Yes and yes

>> No.10852694

>>10852480
>liberal arts
>at a non-top 10 college

No.

>> No.10852808

>>10852487
Very much so.

>> No.10852813

>>10852610
Still 3rd best on the isles tho. Sucks.

>> No.10852819

>>10852487
yup. Good luck

>> No.10852869

>>10852075
As a graduating 4th year former highschool degenerate, it's never too late. Look into 2yr transfer programs in your area that channel into schools you might be interested in and focus on learning for its own sake as opposed to learning the test. If being a few years older than your classmates bothers you, then take the earlier guy's advice and kill the ego my dude.

>> No.10853038

>>10848978
the same, I also go to a top 20 uni. It honestly depressed the fuck out of me. When people learned I didn't vote in the election, they hated me becuase I was part of the problem as if it made any difference. Most of them only believe what theyre told.

>> No.10853182

Affirmative action destroyed any faith I had in the American university system. After watching internationally ranked award winning scientists get passed over for black students not even in the most rigorous curricula (and of course lacking any academic extracurriculars) at top schools, I've become genuinely depressed over our prospects as a nation. Think of the societal problems that come from alienating the best students in favor of mediocre ones in extremely important positions. And before someone calls sour grapes, I got into a school better than anyone I know, this is just me observing some of my most-admired peers failing due to politics.

>> No.10853234

>>10853182
>After watching internationally ranked award winning scientists get passed over for black students not even in the most rigorous curricula
This didn't happen. Stop believing everything /pol/ says, and especially stop spewing their nonsense on other boards.

>> No.10853247

>>10853234
Excet it literally did. Students with regeneron scholar status who placed at ISEF beat by unqualified peers because of race. Not everything is /pol/. I'm just genuinely venting.

>> No.10853252

>>10853234
Not him but it happens. Often, too.

It's easy to just throw everything you don't immediately like in "pol" but it's a real and serious problem to the country at the moment that apparently everyone doesn't mind because making sure Drayvon gets into Harvard is our priority

>> No.10853271

>>10848978
Hey man, I work in the film industry and my advice to you is to major in business or finance. Getting a major in film will not help you work in this industry. 99/100 things you learn in a film class will get thrown the fuck out when you are on set or in PO. 'Film Theory' or some other nonsense they will push on you is horseshit. Become cultured through the means of philosophy and art. Watch films and study them.

Those who can not do, teach. In the film industry this is very much the norm.

>> No.10853283

>>10851278
dope, I go here as an english/classics undergrad. any advice for grad school admissions?

>> No.10853313

>>10849481
>>10852480
No, go to Hillsdale if you like Great Books and are not a modern regressive liberal. Very difficult to respect your peers when most of the men act like women and prefer dresses to pants.

For a school who has the purpose to pursue virtue, there is very little present in both faculty and students. Very degenerate.

I may be biased, I went to Santa Fe campus. Ann Annapolis may be better.

>> No.10853400

I wish I had enough confidence to hate my university. Instead, I'm constantly shrinking back in fear. It's a very large, top 500 state school filled with upper-middle class people wearing expensive clothes (chads), while my parents lived on a farm and I'll be the first one with a degree in my lineage. The anxiety was so overwhelming that I went on leave, though I'm coming back this year. A lot of admirable people had trouble at this age, though, so it's not so bad. Just got to tough it out for a while.

>>10852090
You're funny, anon.

>> No.10853412

>>10849898
If you are still in the typical college age group look into Christian colleges or Conservative ones, like Hillsdale College in Michigan.

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>>10848911
Midwest Chicagoland bros, lets meet up. MechE here

>> No.10853429

>>10853234
hello, shlomo

>> No.10853571

>>10848911
Hi OP

Harvard econ major here, about to graduate. If you do study econ, make sure you take the extremely mathematical track (should be more common at Chicago than here).

Economics students who don't rigorously understand rational choice theory/game theory/aren't comfortable with abstract math aren't serious economics students, and all the fancy applied econometrics and data analysis in the world won't save you when your lack of mathematical maturity prevents you from comfortably reading a lot of the foundational texts in the field .

That being said though, read primary texts too (Smith, Ricardo, Mill, Marx, Keynes, George, Hayek, Friedman, etc -- "political economy" courses in poli sci/gov departments are good for this), not b/c it'll help you with your degree, but just so you don't become one of those autistic economics majors that forgets that the discipline is supposed to change the lives of real people and not jerk yourself off over your ingenious game-theoretic solution that will never occur due to human psychology fucking up your rational preference ordering

Good luck though I'm jealous of you, wish I had another 4 years to learn things [/spoiler[

>> No.10853577

>>10853571
people who talk like this about their fake field of study should be pitted against athletes in single combat for the amusement of poor people, paid for with the economists personal possessions and savings

>> No.10853591

>>10853577
>fake field of study

what exactly do you think is fake about anything I said?

>> No.10853635

>>10853571
>human psychology
behavioral economics isn't real

>> No.10853658

>>10853416
isn't a year theology required at Notre Dame for any major? How's that going?

>> No.10853703

>>10850483
>the fifth-best school in town
Kek next you’re going to be telling me you wouldn’t have gone to Harvard even if you’d gotten in because your priest told you they were too feminist.

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>EECS undergrad
>despise electrical engineering and coding
>stick around bc theory is fun and I get good grades
>be in constant despair over impending postgraduation code monkey wageslavery
>run three miles every day
>sometimes sit in on math lectures and understand nothing
>figured out the other day how to access the 10th story balcony of the math building
>do strength training too
>no gainz bc too cheap to eat food other than rice
>there's an antisuicide fence ofc but it shouldn't be too hard to climb over
>not sure why gainz are desirable in the first place
>live alone in 1br apartment
>talk to self sometimes
>read math textbooks sometimes
>sometimes fantasize about professorship at princeton and fields medals and being the eccentric old prof who makes math interesting and fun and beautiful and who everyone really likes

overall it's pretty swell
I'm unironically happy here

>> No.10853725

>>10853591
Science is predicated upon falsifiability and experimentation. Economists do not have any falsifiable experiments to show and their predictions are as accurate as my aim is when I piss drunk at a party.

the smug psychosis that you exude
>we help people
is nauseating, I hope you realize you're a sociopath.

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>>10853725
>the scientific method is the only way to gain useful information

>> No.10853751

>>10853725
Nice ideology, retard.
>Science is predicated upon falsifiability and experimentation.
Why is this good.

>> No.10853753

>>10853571
STEMspergery and capitalism isn't economics.

>> No.10853754

>>10848926
How is it collapsing?

>> No.10853762

>>10853182
>muh stem
kys petersoncuck

>> No.10853766

>>10852694
Liberal arts is an education style.
There are no good colleges.

>> No.10853941

>>10853718
>talk to self sometimes
my nigga

>> No.10853963

Who else /Australia/?

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>>10853571

Everything in this post is blatantly false. Harvard “economics students” do not read nor do they take classes that imply any sort of mastery of “economics.” If youre not going into IB or some garbage from ec you’re a fraud or a failure.

Not a single ec student at H knows any of those words

>> No.10854033

>>10853658
it's pretty cool senpai. I'm not catholic but studying theology is interesting so i didnt mind the required 1 year of it. First year of theo was just studying the Deuterocanonical and the Pentateuch and how those related parts of the Bible related to the New Testament.

Right now I'm taking a course on the Immaculate Conception which I thought was boring at first but is now shaping up to be pretty great. The course covers alot of the writings of Augustine including his arguments with Pelagius, and also some stuff from Ignatius, Aquinas, Anselm, Ambrose, Pascal, Rosseau, etc. Pretty much it covers a history of how original sin was seen and how the Catholic Church developed its belief in Mary's sinlessness (which I still think is pure bollocks when viewed through the teachings of the Gospel and St. Paul)

>> No.10854116

>>10853718
hm, nothing funny going on with this post.

>> No.10854119

>>10853725
lol (this is literally the only response you deserve).

>> No.10854124

I'm going to be a NEET for a year and then I'm going to be a cashier in a Kaufland. You don't need uni even in 2nd countries if you don't look up to having lots of superfluities. You can manage just well and have a mediocre PC and an internet connection and live in a two room commieblock flat off hovering items over a scanner for 8 hours a day.

>> No.10854267

>>10852813
True, I even had a place at Oxford but AQA botched the marking for my entire classes’ English papers so none of us got our first choice

>> No.10854523

>>10853766
Your degree will be in liberal arts.
Think about it: if someone wanted to go on to continue their education at grad school, who's more likely to get in, a person who majored in their subject as an undergrad or someone with a broad degree?

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I live in Connecticut and know someone going to Yale AMA

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Can someone tell me how the FUCK a single man is supposed to make a living in this society? I went to school and had this >>10848978 experience exactly. The whole curriculum for whatever major you get has to be watered down to accommodate a bunch of roastie's who's only reason for going to school is because they have dreams of "going to Africa". I gave up and dropped out after I had become completely demoralized by both the classes and my fellow students, opting to skip classes and read by myself in the library. Now I am working at a grocery store, listening to audiobooks while I work, thinking I might go back to school and study philosophy, but in my heart I can't believe there isn't some other option. All I want to do is study lads but I don't know what the FUCK to do. Every time I ask for advice people tell me that I should stop judging people and just finish my degree.

>> No.10854568

>Can someone tell me how the FUCK a single man is supposed to make a living in this society?
Start by stopping being a manchild

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>>10854562
I can't even be like my heroes: Kant, Schopenhauer, Girard, etc. because when they went to university women weren't allowed. Where the FUCK is a man supposed to go these days if he wants to devote himself to real study? Does he just have to resign himself to making the most of his free time while working a pleb job surrounded by fast food joints and pubs?

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>>10854574
>class of 1857

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>>10854580
>class of 2018

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>>10854583
>hey stacy u wanna fuck later?
>haha paul stop it i have to finish my paper for my gender roles philosophy class!
>lol stacy u r a nerd
>haha u jerk!
>*gets pregnant*
>*gets B on paper*

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>>10854592
>meanwhile, student actually interested in philosophy drops out and ends up working at ross not making enough to move out of parents house

>> No.10854609

>>10854598
>>10854592
>>10854583
>>10854580
>>10854574
imagine being such a whiny faggot

>> No.10854688

gonna study mathematics but im considering a one year course in philosophy first. should i?

>> No.10854706

>>10853718
I mean you could just enter a math master program and move onto a phd program. Your school alone should get you into them.

>> No.10854713

>>10854267
desu I think it's better this way for you
Edinburgh is probably comfier since it's not in the global limelight as much and there's diminishing returns on quality of education at that level.

>> No.10854718

>>10854523
You're an idiot.

>> No.10854724

>>10854574
You're a fucking retard if you think women going to college is a bad thing, let alone putting you in a bad position specifically. You go to university, even if undergrad is watered down, and I will agree with you here that it is but not because they're teaching women, then you should have no problem going into a masters and PhD program later down the road.

>> No.10854747

>>10854688
If nothing else take a formal logic course which is in the phil department.

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>>10853416
>tfw I got rejected from Notre Dame

reeeeeee

>> No.10854884

>>10854724
Women outcompeting men by larger and larger margins over these last few years will only accelerate the pace at which we're becoming a feminized society (i.e. Sweden, UK) and in America the backlash will be stronger than most places, just as it already is. This will take the form of more right wing men, school shooters, etc. And keep in mind out of the 40-45% of men at colleges, a large chunk of them are minorities, so white men will be further stripped of institutional power and you know they aren't going to take that passively.

I will hand it to women though, as far as I can tell they have their shit together in college a lot more than men do. For some reason nobody seems to have figured out yet.

>> No.10854929

>>10853182
If affirmative action is your problem with the system that colleges use to accept students out of high school you're fucking retarded. High school is a had joke that you can lie, cheat and cry to the top of just as easily as you can fail and sink to the bottom. Colleges aren't looking for the best students, they're looking for the students who are the best at getting into college. Valuing black kids isn't really that much different than valuing fucking rowing or something.

>> No.10854965

>>10854718
Tell me why I'm wrong.
Why would a hopeful academic get a degree in liberal arts and not his subject?

Why St. John's over Harvard?

>> No.10854988

>>10854884
>feminized society
Muh boogeymen

>>10854965
I take it you haven't actually gone past undergrad, have you?

>> No.10855096

>>10854988
Nope. I still haven't had an argument defending why anyone would want a degree in liberal arts

>> No.10855125

>>10854713
It's definitely comfy, but I think the college system at Oxford is max comfy. Student support at Edinburgh is god-awful.

>> No.10855232

>>10853703
It's behind Harvard and MIT sure, but well ahead of BU and Northeastern.

>> No.10855784

>>10855232
>well ahead of BU and Northeastern.
>this is brag worthy

>> No.10855810

>>10854747
Ignore this poster >>10854706
Formal logic is everything intuitive and beautiful inherent in mathematical logic, but watered down and stupidly applied to language by a bunch of autistic Anglo Saxons. It's literally incapable of saying anything halfway interesting or thought provoking, and only exists to justify the tenure of a couple professors who couldn't hack it as actual mathematicians.

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>>10855810

>> No.10856128

>>10853416
Notre Dame actually has a great Literature and superb Philosophy undergrad programs, not to mention Theology. Shame you went for STEM when you're at a place where going for a /lit/ major can actually land you a job

>> No.10856167

>>10848911
Starting uni in August, I still can't decide if I wanna study German, Mandarin, Russian or Serbocroatian though. Anyone got any advice on what languages might be useful for getting a job in the future? I live in Scandinavia btw, my country's biggest export market is currently Germany.

>> No.10856180

>>10853400
Are there not first-gen college student resources? Sort of in the same boat--I'm on a full scholarship at a very good upper-middle class lib arts school. Problem is, the scholarship's for very poor/underrepresented demographics, so I'm totally different from the other 90% of students.

>> No.10856227

>>10854562
going to be honest mate, the fact that you listen to audio books and that you have such poor social skills you ended up at a grocery tells me everything i need to know. also philosophy is a dead field, the only money to be made is in teaching which you’re already too old to properly get into. if you don’t figure out a way to make money you’re going to be fucked permanently and your family will stop helping you when you become a burden.

>> No.10856232

>>10849898
Gotta find the right one. I go to an eastern liberal arts school, but big mix of opinions and generally very good about free speech

>> No.10856262

>>10854562
You could try online classes or self-studying for classes. This way you can get a degree without having to listen to dumb shit.

>> No.10856343

>>10848911
Undergrad major is irrelevant for law school in terms of preparation, though a 3.5 in philo will look better than a 3.5 in communications. Going to UChicago instead of a cheap state school is pointless if you plan to go to law school anyway- slight admissions advantage but much. 3.9/170 LSAT at state school = 3.7/169 LSAT at UChicago.

But don't go to law school.

>> No.10856354

>>10848941
Criminal law is 99% of "conlaw" that lawyers actually use b/c the 4th/5th admendments

>> No.10856371

>>10855096
You don't get a degree in liberal arts you go to the liberal arts college which is either an independent college or within an universtiy. you're legit retarded, you still major in something but they require a more rounded out education.

>> No.10856589

i'm doing a master's in english at cambridge atm and it's pretty miserable. idk what i'm doing here. haven't even read homer lmao.

anyone else out there who feels like grabbing a pint hmu

>> No.10856704

>>10856589
>English
>Homer, a GREEK author

I'm sorry, but what did you expect? If you wanted to learn about non-English literature you should have studied comparative literature, not English.

>> No.10856788

>>10856704
every competent student in the humanities is expected to have read homer. english or not.

but if it makes you feel better: i also haven't read milton, keats, wordsworth, dickens, or joyce

>> No.10856935

>>10856371
Do you not even know what Saint Johns is?

They don't give a degree. Your degree would just be a bachelors in the liberal arts. If you go on their site they have no majors listed

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Any brazilian here?

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University of Miami student here. I never see anybody else in these threads because it seems nobody under 60 in the entire city reads. Just got my interview for MBA at William & Mary though, so if anyone here goes there I'd enjoy hearing about the community.

>>10851698
Sarasota is a nice town with a lot going on for its size. Are you an arts student? If not, then I don't know if NCF has everything you'd need. They're stellar though if you're an aspiring musician, actor, or other fine arts-type. I imagine you're a freshman. You really ought to stick it out at Tulane, your feet will warm up and you won't feel like leaving so much when you feel more rooted there. New Orleans is a great town, too. But if you really want to go to college in Florida, consider UMiami (though expensive for most people) or Rollins College in Winter Park. That's a lovely little place.

>> No.10857382

>>10853982
What the hell are you talking about, go back to lamont

I know most econ students are absolute hacks at this school, hence why I'm imploring OP to not waste a 4 year degree by bullshitting through a bunch of econ classes

Most Harvard students don't read, which is really sad. At least we're not the Gov department

>> No.10857414

>>10857113
Don't shit on Miami, dude. People read here. People read everywhere. You just gotta find it. I love Miami. It really isn't that stupid of a city.

>> No.10857446

>>10857113
I'm studying French and Spanish, with the idea of going to Rice or Davis to get masters in accounting and then CPA afterward. Maybe I'll do law school. I'm also considering going to Occidental. I'm from Sarasota. I really am considering it because it is so cheap in comparison, though I might look into Miami too. Maybe even UF. Thanks.

>> No.10857786

>>10857414
My brother lives in Ft L so we visit Miami a lot and I love that place. I wish I could move there but I just couldn't afford too.

>> No.10857802

I don't know what to study. On the one hand literature seems to make sense because I want to analyze texts. But I want to analyze them through various philosophical lenses. I also want to focus on more eastern works rather than English. Even if I couldn't do English I've always been most fascinated with existentialism which would mean French and Russian literature.

What the fuck do I actually study /lit/?

English Literature
Comparative Literature
Philosophy

None of these seem entirely accurate for what I want to pursue. Sadly, I got my BS in finance because I listed to a bunch of spooks telling me I should get a degree in what makes money rather than follow my passions and being an impressionable young lad I did just that. Now I'm in a position where I could finally follow my passions but it seems like there's no route available. I'd have to get a second bachelors or hope to jump into a masters from a different field. And even then as I stated above, I don't know which field that should be. Please help.

>> No.10857828

>>10857802
Study English Lit and become my intellectual peer.

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>>10857802
I also have no clue what to study. I am unable to suffer through anymore compsci courses. I feel that the Philosophy major, despite being basically a dead field, is the most valued when it comes to people looking to hire jobs. Of course this doesn't really apply to not high tier schools

>> No.10857841

>>10857838
>despite being basically a dead field
Total meme.

>> No.10857847

>>10857841
Can you do anything with just a philosophy major?

>> No.10857862

>>10857847
It has skills that are transferable to just about any non-science field.

>> No.10857863

>>10857847
I'm evidence of that (lawyer); but no, there aren't exclusive job offers for philosophy majors outside of academia.

>> No.10857865

>>10857841
I don't doubt that it's a meme but it has grown stagnant. I have little interest in pursuing it at the graduate level for the most part.

>> No.10857866

>>10857828
But the issue is that while I want to study literature I don't want to focus on English literature.

>> No.10857870

>>10857863
anecdotal

>> No.10857881

>>10857870
I'm not going to cite sources that you can Google yourself.

>> No.10857883

Fuck, making decisions is so hard

>> No.10857923

>>10857866
You're strongly encouraged to pursue a specialized literary degree, which are segregated by culture/nation of origin; not saying generalizing isn't possible, though it's strongly discouraged for the sake of curricular simplicity.

>> No.10857948

>>10857923
So English Lit is kind of a misnomer?

>> No.10857954

>>10851870
Is this how you rationalize being too dumb for a real university?

>> No.10857961

>>10857948
Friends of mine have majored in English Lit as undergrads, choosing Russian, Chinese, or even French Lit as specializations during grad school.

>> No.10857967

>>10857961
But still under the English Lit moniker? I just worry that wouldn't work for me since I studied in a different field for undergrad.

>> No.10857979

>>10857967
If you major in English Lit you'll receive English Lit instruction, though you can enroll in additional courses. Graduate courses can be much broader.

>> No.10858001

>>10857979
So if I do get a second degree it comes down to suffering through a couple years of irrelevant works before I can then move on and study what I actually have an interest in? I might rethink this.

>> No.10858010

>>10858001
Depends: what's your bachelor's?

>> No.10858017

>>10848911
>pic related
Nice knock off ivy league

Listen up faggots. Major in engineering or business. Major in some shit that is a guaranteed high-paying job, and then use your spare time to do your philosophy coursework. You can study the humanities with free lectures, elective courses, and pdfs. And if you aren't smart enough to do a stem degree, then you definitely shouldn't go and try to pollute the humanities. There is no such thing as multiple intelligence. If you suck at math, you will absolutely be a low class thinker whose ideas aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

>> No.10858024

>>10858017
>There is no such thing as multiple intelligence
Return to /sci/.

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>I missed a chance to brag about going to top 1 uni

>> No.10858043

>>10858010
Finance - Accounting

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>>10857414
I grew up down here and I have yet to find them. Perhaps you'd like to point me in the right direction?

>>10857446
I am very unclear about your plan. You mean, you are majoring in those two languages and you want to become a CPA? Why are you not at Tulane's pretty good undergraduate business school getting a BBA in accounting and then CPA? You have time, but you ought to whittle down your plans first. Just as well, in the business world, there's nothing you can do with a law degree that you can't do with an MBA, unless you're actually planning on practicing law. But on the accountacy side of things, UMiami actually has one of the best tax law programs in the nation - I'd say that's the only thing that their law school is especially known for, as it is very small.

>> No.10858052

>>10858039
No one believes you, however.

>> No.10858058

>>10857866
My undergrad perspective: Look at the requirements for the two majors at the school; look at the classes and professors and so on. English Lit classes at my uni are all, as the title of the major suggests, British or American works which seemed a bit of a waste to me considering how limited that is with all the literature the rest of the world has produced. The difference in style of teaching seems to come down, from my limited experience, to a textual analysis + surrounding history and author info + maybe some related critical essays on the side. Comp lit, on the other hand, is far more cross-disciplinary. Critical theory and philosophy are referenced and suggested or required as supplemental reading material to the text + you do the actual independent literal analysis. The supplements serve as specific ways of approaching and understanding the text; they're not "this will 100% guide how we look at the text." In addition, you have to concentrate in a specific area like critical theory or philosophy or

Comp lit also requires, at least at my school, a secondary language to read/respond to texts in and you have to take a couple classes of a literature in that language sans translation.

The core classes are generally pretty cool too and come down to just easier, broader often introductory courses that still contain really interesting stuff albeit in a less focused and personalized way (my 300-level comp lit classes are 8-20 people while some intros are in the dozens to hundreds). Again, looking at universities' course catalogs and major requirements helps in this regard. I was struggling to decide between those three majors you listed and comp lit seemed like the best of three worlds to me.

>> No.10858063

>>10858043
Regardless, you'll need to consult admissions for whichever program you're interested in applying to. 4chan can't answer these questions accurately.

>> No.10858088

>>10858058
>Comp lit also requires, at least at my school, a secondary language to read/respond to texts in and you have to take a couple classes of a literature in that language sans translation.
Jesus, that sounds pretty intense. So you just can't major in comp lit if you don't know a second language?

>> No.10858100

>>10852559
>not getting a Canaday single
cucks

>> No.10858125

>>10858100
>>10852559
>>10852090
>freshmen

>> No.10858128

>>10857847
There are several prominent tech CEOs (Billionaires) who only have a formal education in philosophy. The CEO of Slack, for one. He credits his success to the styles of analytical and qualitative thinking he learned by studying philosophy.

Google and Microsoft also have stated they're making a hiring shift towards humanities and soft-skills oriented people, in order to build more effective teams.

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>>10850483

sup

2150, you?

down to meet ASAP

>> No.10858150

>>10858052
it isn't that fucking hard to go to a good school. god damn this board pretends to be so smart and sophisticated but immediately gets triggered if anybody mentions that they attended anything other than a top 250th party school with a 50% graduation rate. we get it you went to u miami and have a chip on your shoulder because you paid 200,000 $$ for adult babysitting.

>> No.10858154

>>10858088
Nope. I mean, every college has departments for teaching all the major languages but that'll take 2 years if you're starting from zero. If you already know a language, you can test out of those classes and go straight into a writing workshop and/or literature classes; either way, yeah you need to be testably proficient in a second language. But knowing a second language is really cool and changes the way you think about things especially when you look at how different languages are structured and how that structure reflects a different style/content of thought; this becomes especially clear when comparing a translation to the original but you just pick up on a different frequency of thought in general when reading in another language.

>> No.10858156

>>10858052
Post your uni w/ timestamp and I'll post my Harvard ID. Except you won't, brainlet

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>>10858150
>paying for school

>> No.10858167

>>10858156
Swing first, nigger.

>> No.10858184

>>10858167
You won't post yours after I post mine because you won't want to feel like the brainlet you are

>> No.10858188

>>10858051
I want to go into accounting. I was doing Finance, but seeing all the brofessors and brodudes when I took my first courses in the business school put me off. My plan is to do the languages as undergrad, while fulfilling the prereqs for the masters, then get the MAACT. If you want to get your CPA in most states, you pretty much need a masters already. This makes an undergrad degree in it unnecessary. So if I do this, I get the best of both worlds. Rice has a masters in the field that's only for people without an accounting background; it places really well into audit. I want to grow intellectually, but I also really like money.

>> No.10858195

>>10858184
We all know you're simply dying to post your student ID card and timestamp. Why so coy?

>> No.10858223

>>10858195
spoken like a true brainlet

>> No.10858236

>>10858154
Oh I absolutely agree with the concept but expecting someone to go from zero knowledge to fluent in that short a time span is downright insane to me. Then again, I'm generally bad with learning languages because of memory issues.

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>>10858223
Community Colleges aren't as bad as they once were, anon: I get it, shit's expensive.

>> No.10858264

>>10858223
Lol no more milk in this brick.

>> No.10858278

>>10850483
Harvard master race here

wow your girls are way hotter than ours though holy fuck I'm so jealous desu

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>tfw got the auto-generated email today reminding me to get a TA job for next fall quarter
>tfw i'm going to have to teach fucking uchicago undergrads

I don't want to

>> No.10858287

>>10858278
u wanna meet up

>> No.10858306

>>10856180
I don't know, I'll inquire about that. What would that sort of thing even include? Scholarships, I guess.

>> No.10858319

>>10858286
What do you study? What will you be teaching?

>> No.10858323

>>10858188
But realize that you will still be at an extreme disadvantage without some of the other core business classes. Do you plan on using these languages in your career later on? Having the ability to speak multiple languages is certainly a bonus, but does it really warrant taking 15 or so classes in those languages? Once you get deeper into the major, trust me that most of the brodudes who stupidly idealize the Jordan Belforts of the world fade away. Heck, a lot of those guys can't make it past calculus or stats I/II.
In short, I strongly urge you to reconsider, you should try to get a BBA.

>> No.10858328

>>10853571
>Harvard econ major here

>>10858039
>I missed a chance to brag about going to top 1 uni


Why are Americans so obsessed with going to big name universities? Nobody cares here in Germany.

>> No.10858341

>>10858287
yeah meet me in the back of TITS tonight, I'll be the white guy holding a Bud Light and yelling "yoooooo" every time I see someone I vaguely know from somewhere, even if we're not really friends

but actually, would be down. What house/grade are you?

>> No.10858349

>>10858039
>going to top 1 uni
Yet no one would care if you actually did.

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>>10858039
>not going to the top 0 uni
kek

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Nobody in this thread is going to Harvard.

Harvard: 22,000 students
The United States: about 22 million

That's 0.001% of the students in the country.

>> No.10858388

harvard is a shit tier university u goddamn pseuds

>> No.10858406

>>10858388
>harvard is a shit tier university
t. local state college

>> No.10858417

>>10858406
>American universities

>> No.10858418

>>10858406
>internally educated burger

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ayyyyy

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Anyone from UVA or Virginia in general? I'm just a first year but I already hate it here and want to drop out.

>> No.10858485

>>10858478
I'd also want to drop out if we fucking lost to a 16th seed. Virginia is the biggest choker in all of cbb history

>> No.10858491

>>10858485
This is one of the reasons I want to leave this place. All normies ever talk about is sports and shit. I couldn't care less.

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10858510

What's up ladies and gentlemen? University of Michigan here. Going to University of Toronto Law School in August

>> No.10858511

>>10848911
>>10848944
>>10851278
>>10853416
>>10853718
>>10854538
>>10857838
>>10858039
>>10858478

if you're in the US and you don't attend any of these top unis you might as well not go to school anymore tbqh

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>>10858385
Do you think the population of /lit/ is randomly drawn from the general population of college students or something?

It seems reasonable that a literature forum would tend to have a higher proportion of kids at top schools

>pic related, just enjoying some fine reading from one of our former professors

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>>10858385
Wrong wrongity wrong wrong

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>>10858596
>someone actually delivered

>> No.10858647

>>10858341
Canaday frosh, you?

>> No.10858679

>>10848911
UChicago gang!

>> No.10858683

>>10858254
>>10858254
>>10858385
>>10858596

Based Harvard poster. I will post too for the brainlets

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>>10858683
I forgot the pic :^)

>> No.10858710

>>10848989
>Implying causation

>> No.10858724

>>10849653
factually incorrect
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/notre-dame-switches-its-position-on-contraception-coverage-again/552605/

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>mechanical engineering

>> No.10858854

fresher at cardiff uni, is it normal for the first year of an english lit course to be an expensive book club? havent had a single lecture that wasnt on a specific book, literally nothing about literature in a more general sense.

why am i even here lol? at this point i go in to maybe 1 lecture a week or don't bother at all. getting high passes from just reading 2 or 3 of the assigned books on each module and quote mining on google scholar for secondary sources. have taken to teaching myself out of the library, been reading up on the history of aesthetics and the development of critical theory. the closest we have come is touching briefly upon aristotles writings on tragedy (something i studied already at a level) and a lecture cancelled due to strikes that was going to be on death of the author.

wtf is the point of this degree? am i just buying into a scam? am i paying thousands of pounds for a library membership right now?

>> No.10858871

>>10858854
yeah, not to be that guy, but I'd recommend studying something more pre-professional so you can get a credential and just load up on interesting electives

the problem with something like an english lit degree is any major has a ton of horseshit courses you need to take, so if you're gonna be forced to take bullshit courses, might as well impress stupid employers with them, cuz with any major it seems like electives/self-study/dropping by prof's OH are the only thing worthwhile

>> No.10858876

>>10858854
also, any recs on the history of aesthetics and development of critical theory?

>> No.10858893

>>10851159
literature on drugs was tight.... read burroughs and shit

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>Actually getting a literature degree
Career suicide. Get a STEM degree or don't bother going to college.

>> No.10858920

>>10858596
based

>> No.10858938

>>10858876
>Aesthetics from Classical Greece to the Present: A Short History
>Monroe Beardsley
nice simple overview that gives you the basic touchstones and standard academic interpretations of the primary texts

>History of aesthetics
>Władysław Tatarkiewicz
big beefy 3 volume history, most exhaustive one i am aware of, incredibly useful.

>Literary Theory: A Very Short Introduction
>Jonathan Culler
literally babys first book on literary theory, dont know if it would help you but as someone who knows next to nothing on the subject beyond having a 10 page handout on theory that badly summarized 3 schools at a level it was a very good introduction

>> No.10858956

>>10852610
my sister just got accepted there, she's ecstatic. moving all the way from Canada, my dad is having a conniption lol

>> No.10858968

>>10858914
Being a high and mighty STEMfag is about the most reddit shit on the planet

>> No.10859068

>>10858968
It's not a high and mighty thing. Getting a liberal arts degree is, for the vast, vast majority of people, an awful investment of time and money.

>> No.10859166

>>10853038
>voting only works if all members of a collective do it
>collective is displeased when a member doesn't do their part
shocking, how awful, fucking millenials

>> No.10859181

>>10852631
hey

>> No.10859229

>>10858938
thx sempai, will check them out as I'm pretty ignorant on both subjects

>> No.10859262

>>10848956
yep

greetings from the harvard of the south

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>>10858596
>>10858385
>>10858687

I'd be willing to bet the amount of Harvard people on this board is at least 3, maybe more.

>> No.10859524

>>10857382

Yeah anon that would really suck. And you know how I know you're a Gov concentrator? Because you're selfloathing and you just can't help it, brining the shit out for the whole world to see. Should have been History my boy.

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>>10848911
'sup brainlets?

>> No.10859592

>I'd be willing to bet the amount of Harvard people on this board is at least 3, maybe more.

I'm also at Harvard and 3 anons already posted with ID so my guess is at least 10

>> No.10859773

>>10859524
>projecting this much

How's freshman year going? I hope you're at least pulling your all-nighter in Lamont Cafe and not the basement

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City college brainlet here.

This is the rad life, my boys. I'm majoring in English and getting a certificate in forestry, yet I still have way more than enough time to pursue personal interests and work as a copy editor. It's nowhere near as prestigious as even the worst state school, but, goddamn it, I don't care at all.

If there's anyone here contemplating on attending a CC, AMA.

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>>10848978
hahah what a great copypasta. that's hilarious

>other /lit/fags responding sincerely and agreeing

w-what the fuck

you guys are so embarrassing sometimes holy shit

>> No.10860049

I'm a pretty skilled writer but I want a degree that gets me as much money as possible. I know a lot about history and linguistics. Which major should I take?

>> No.10860082

>>10858914
>get a degree in something that should be taught in technical school
Fuck off retard. Universities exist because of humanities.

>> No.10860089

>>10859166
>being this much of a brainlet

>> No.10860113

>>10858510
>Toronto

what was your lsat score, if you don't mind my asking?

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>> No.10861067

>>10848941
Econ is gay btw, there’s nothing to it but watered down math.

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>> No.10861331

>>10860113
171

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>all these fucking kids from Harvard, Michigan, Chicago, Columbia, Stanford...

is /lit/ the smartest board on 4chan?

>> No.10861415

>>10861337
meanwhile the pseuds on /sci/ are studying Civil Engineering at their local non-flagship state school

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>>10861337
Nope, far from it, in fact

>> No.10861505

>>10859166
>pretending to understand how the voting works
you are a brainlet. all you have to do is look at the popular vote to know it wouldn't have mattered.