Is Eros Lucifer?

[Anonymous No.10824877]

Wait, so Lucifer actually derives from ‘the light bearer’, referring to Venus, the morning star, which is primarily associated with Eros is the culture from which we received the Lucifer traditio, Ancient Greece. (THIS IS LIT, DONT DELETE:) so in the Phaedrus (or was it Symposium) when Plato sets up Eros as the mediator between God and Man that elevates the soul to a perfected state through erotic madness, is Plato actually explaining what we moderns, with a church-fucked understanding of the character of Lucifer, would understand to be Luciferianism? Also would this mean that Plato’s understanding of divinity opposes the Christian understanding, forcing us to choose one or the other? If Plato’s idea of divinity is rooted in Eros and union, and the Christian idea of divinity is opposed to this, given the Ancient Greek dichotomy of Love and Strife (and all of its similar offshoots), is the Christian divinity actually actually associated with strife (especially considering the fact that no other religion in the history of civilization has caused more strife and death than Christianity)? So would this mean that, for those of us that have considered ourselves to be Christians, on the side of Love and union, opposed to Luciferianism, aligned with division, we are actually those who we claim to oppose while we oppose those who are actually on the ‘side’ of the idea that we claim to promote? Anyone have some answers? Have we been lied to?

[Anonymous No.10824895]

>>10824877
Every religion is a pack of lies by its very nature.

[Anonymous No.10824912]

>>10824877
Lucifer shares characteristics with a lot of gods from Canaanite mythology, Babylonian, etc., but his name is a transliteration of the minor Greek deity Phosphorus. "Lucifer" is used as a title of Jesus himself in several early Christian hymns, and the shift to apply the title on ly to Satan is a relatively late move. And Plato is not mythology: there is no big dichotomy of Love and Strife in actual Greek myth. It's bad enough when we try to squeeze Orphic and Gnostic symbolic stories into myth, but let's have mercy on the philosophers.

[Anonymous No.10824927]

>>10824877
Who are those three guys?

[Anonymous No.10824929]

>>10824877
the Christian God is first and foremost a God of death which is why the living are looked at as already dead and in need of the fire and light of God's love. Second, its a blood cult, the Catholics especially, they worship pain-terror-repression and most importantly self flagellation. Its pure evil, anyone you know who is a Christian is an evil person doing evil things to their mind and soul. You really don't want to die a Christfag I couldn't imagine a greater insult to deity than dying muttering sweet nothings to the psychic parasite that possessed you for decades. The whole cult needs to be annihilated, all the leaders liquidated, all the churches and cathedrals burned.

[Anonymous No.10824947]

>>10824929
t.

[Anonymous No.10824951]

>>10824877
didn't read lol

[Anonymous No.10824960]

>>10824877
>the shitty hermeticist left his containment board
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.10824967]

>>10824912
Lucifer was primarily the name for Venus. Venus was primarily associated with Eros. The Jesus-ish figure in Revelation is described as Lucifer, it is normally translated so it is not noticed, but the Greek is the term for Lucifer. I’m arguing that originally, the early Christians saw Lucifer as a positive figure (why else would they use the term for their savior) but the church invented the negative connotation to the name to serve their own purposes. Love and strife was the original dichotomy drawn by Empedocles. It never leaves the Greek understanding. Whatcha thinkya talkinbout?

[Anonymous No.10825103]

>>10824927
Clckwrkrng,jkr,fghtclb

[Anonymous No.10825913]

>Part of that Power which would
>The Evil ever do, and ever does the Good

[Anonymous No.10825926]

Abrahamic-- Or maybe Nile/Tigrus/Euphrates divinity (Abrahmaic religions, and egyptian religion.

is a concept that is reserve only for the most holy beings (read: god(s) and kings)
everyone else has to beg god(s) and kings for their favor.

gnostic/pagan/indus divinity is based on a "Secret" characteristic inherenet in everything, but seldom awakened.
there are skilled people in awakening this secret characteristic that you must seek out if you wish to awaken the divine/see the divine.

divinity is either a characteristic of gods and kings you must prostrate yourself to for their blessings
or
divinity is a characteristic inherent within everything, but you must prostrate yourself before a master to "awaken" it.

[Anonymous No.10825929]

>>10824877
Read Part One of Deus Caritas Est to understand the relationship between Eros and Agape:
http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est.html

Eros is not is essence Satanic. It can be uncoupled from Agape and directed towards sinful ends.