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>Love yourself before all, because everything in the world is based off self-interest. If you love only yourself you will set your affairs up properly, and your caftan will also remain in one piece. And economic truth adds that the more properly arranged personal affairs and, so to speak, whole caftans there are in society, the firmer its foundations are and the better arranged its common cause. It follows that by acquiring solely and exclusively for myself, I am thereby precisely acquiring for everyone, as it were, and working so that my neighbor will have something more than a torn caftan, not from private, isolated generosities now, but as a result of universal prosperity.
Dostoevsky utterly and unequivocally btfo communists before communists even existed.

>> No.10814267

First, sweetheart, you forgot to add
>But science says: Love yourself before all, because everything in the world is based off self-interest...
So it's not Dosto's thought.
And secondly, communism was already a thing in 1866.
Literally get the fuck out.

>> No.10814270

>>10814267
>t. Commie

>> No.10814276

>>10814246
I thought Dosto was good and Ayn Rand bad, but they say the same thing?

>> No.10814277

>>10814270
t. so desparate for (you)s

>> No.10814308

I'm pretty sure this is said by a character that is ultimately portrayed negatively. Not that Dosto didn't BTFO of socialism and communism in his work, but he certainly wasn't Ayn Rand.

>> No.10814328

>>10814246
Cooperation is in most peoples self interest because they lack the resources to make it on their own. Self interest and helping others are not opposed to each other because humans are social creatures than need each other.

>> No.10814335

>>10814246
>People will believe this is what Dosto actually thought

>> No.10814346

>>10814335
let them delude themselves you can't correct them all

>> No.10815592

>>10814276
That was taken from a character in the book who isn't portrayed in a positive light.

>> No.10815610

>>10814246
whose quote was this?

>> No.10815651

>>10815610
Luzin's, it's when Raskolnikov first meets him and Luzin basically says he's marrying Dunia out of pure selfishness.

>> No.10815683

Dosto was a communist when he was young, he was arrested and nearly executed. His whole body of work is about repenting for his early years, jesus fucking christ