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I cannot overestimate the malignant effect this woman has had on the West. When people say "Oh, don't be silly, Jews aren't trying to undermine the West", you need only point them towards this Jewess and see how pernicious her effect on modern Christianity (particularly the new brand of Catholicism espoused by Francis) has been.

Her "theology" basically amounts to "the one who has suffered the most (what she terms 'Affliction') is the one who is most blessed". Her view on 'affliction', combined with her idea that the purpose of Christianity is a social (and not a spiritual) endeavor, is the reason why liberation theology exists. And what is the anti-Pope's justification for all his bullshit recently with immigrants? That's right, they're 'afflicted', they need our help, the Church is a social mission.

Her book "The Need for Roots" is single handedly the most Jew book I have ever read. It argues that "fake" roots (like ethnicity) make people unhappy and vicious, and that the real "roots" are communal ownership and diverse communities. She spends a section discussing patriotism, and says that any patriotism that is based on pride of a nation's strength is evil, and that true patriotism is "compassion" - compassion for others in the nation as well as those outside it.

Seriously, the damage this cunt has inflicted on society is monumental. And here's the thing - no one outside academia knows her. She's standard reading in European Theology courses (and therefore, every single member of the Established Churches in Europe are beholden to her ideas), guiding opinion making in religion, weakening religious bonds, causing our religious leaders to do insane shit.

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>>10804757

>> No.10804769

>>10804757
There's nothing wrong with compassion, anon

>> No.10804791

>>10804757
An old colleague remarked, having not known anything about her previously, after reading her wiki that her life sounded exactly like a CIA recruitment script.
What made me wary was her idea that state executions should be made beautiful.

>> No.10804801

This is quite literally what rand was complaining about.

>> No.10804803

>>10804769
>There's nothing wrong with compassion
There is when you replace every single ounce of reason with it

>> No.10804814

>>10804757
The Pope can't be wrong, sorry.

>> No.10805197
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>Our patriotism comes straight from the Romans. This is why French children are encouraged to seek inspiration for it in Corneille. It is a pagan virtue, if these two words are compatible. The word pagan, when applied to Rome, early possesses the significance charged with horror which the early Christian controversialists gave it. The Romans really were an atheistic and idolatrous people; not idolatrous with regard to images made of stone or bronze, but idolatrous with regard to themselves. It is this idolatry of self which they have bequeathed to us in the form of patriotism.

She's right you know...

>> No.10805200

>>10804757
>"the one who has suffered the most (what she terms 'Affliction') is the one who is most blessed".
lmao that there is somebody who actually thinks this.
I've been using this as a strawman of Leftists for years

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The Holocaust was self defense.

>> No.10805290

To be fair, I don't think the idea of "suffering makes you closer to God" existed before Weil.

>> No.10805303

>>10805290
i think that idea is literally found in the Bible.

>> No.10805343

She wasn't even a Christian, she never got baptized and killed herself

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Also
>hate the jews
>his god and religion was literally created by jews
I don't get this meme

>> No.10805354

>>10805197
So she doesn't understand Catholicism basically.

>> No.10805384

>>10805197
>pagan virtue,
Of course non-christcucks cant have virtues.

>> No.10805389

>>10805384
Yes, at least she got that right.

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>>10805389
No she didnt.

>> No.10805445

>>10804757
>Her "theology" basically amounts to "the one who has suffered the most (what she terms 'Affliction') is the one who is most blessed".
Oh cool, so basically a paraphrase of “The meek shall inherit the Earth.”
I’m sorry that you Christcucks can’t live with the fact that the morality of your religion, coming straight from the Gospels, is slave morality. Stop trying to present Jesus as an alpha male who stood for personal responsibility and nationalism. Almost every word Jesus speaks in the Bible points to just the opposite. The sooner you learn to live with that, the sooner you can be consistent in your personal philosophy and determine what you really believe.

>> No.10805494

>>10805347
theres nothing more anti-jew (theologically speaking) than christianity, thats why kikes hate the church

>> No.10805520

>>10805347
Did you completely miss the part where Jesus told the Jews to convert to Christianity? Do you not know Jesus threw out most of the rules of the Torah?

>> No.10805537

>>10804757
Simone Weil did nothing wrong and made me regret my past anti-Semitism...

>> No.10805543

>>10805494
>worship a Jew
>Church founded by a Jew
>most of the disciples a Jew
>worship Jesus' mother who is a Jew
>read the OT which is Jewish
>Jewish prophets as legitimacy for your God
>invoke the names of Abraham and Moses, Christ does this constantly, as legitimization of his divinity
>Christ repeatedly focuses his sermons on Jews who are God's people in need of redemption
>first Christians were all Jews-Syrians-Greeks absolutely not HUWHYTES in sight
>Implicit Jewish morality bleeds through into Christianity
Sounds very Anglo-Saxon ARYAN HYPERBOREAN

>> No.10805551

>>10805537
>my past anti-Semitism...
Don't lie, everyone here knows you're a Jew.

>> No.10805552

>>10805520
Isn’t that what Simone Weil was doing? She wasn’t religiously Jewish.

>> No.10805560

>>10805537
But anon, Weil was an antisemite :^)
>While she received praise from many people, from Pope Paul VI to Albert Camus, many Jewish writers accused her of anti-Semitism. Weil was a harsh critic of Judaism. She claimed that the fall of Western Civilization in her life time was the result of its twin shaky foundations: Jewish and Roman cultures. Her solution was to abandon her old faith and embrace Christianity

>> No.10805564

>>10805290
Job, Pascal...

>> No.10805567

PANIC
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>> No.10805574

>>10804803
explain how she did this

>> No.10805577

>>10805560
:^)
>Jewish and Roman cultures. Her solution was to abandon her old faith and embrace Christianity
I should get around to reading the rest of the Weil I have, but isn’t Christianity the exact, ultimate edifice of Jewish and Roman fusion?

>> No.10805581

>>10805560
>twin shaky foundations: Jewish and Roman cultures
>solution was to abandon her old faith and embrace Christianity
How the fuck does that make any sense when Chrsitianity shares those foundations?

>> No.10805588

>>10805560
>shit on Judaism
>promote an insanely reckless form of Christianity that values multiculturalism over logic
I'm deeply confused.

>> No.10805591

>>10805577
I don't see it. Why would you say that?

>> No.10805592

>>10805588
Multiculturalism didn’t exist back then... so how could she promote it...

>> No.10805595

>>10805581
people who aren't right wing but also aren't retarded see that Roman culture is decadent, Jewish culture is degenerate but can't get out of the Christ myth trap. Very sad. /pol/ and most christians are fucked epistemological because their presuppositions will not allow them the room to operate that's necessary to assess this obvious truth

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>>10805577
>>10805588

Yeah she was crazy
Has anyone here read this? I can't find a pdf

>> No.10805603

>>10805588
the problem isn't the herectic talking shit, the problem is the church not BTFOing him

>> No.10805611

>>10805592
She's a jew and jewism is white genocide. try the redpill, join us on /pol/. Hitler was essentially right

>> No.10805616

>>10805581
>How the fuck does that make any sense when Chrsitianity shares those foundations?
I assume a true believer would like to think that Christianity is without outside cultural influences and religious antecedents. Just like many of them claim that Christianity is not a religion.

>> No.10805620

>>10805591
Christianity is, rather uncontroversially, in essence a fusion of Hellenic and Judaic religion and culture. Pope Benedict XVI himself says as much in his Introduction to Christianity.

>> No.10805621

>>10805603
>m-muh church
Hahahaha, you're literally going to hell catholicuck

>> No.10805623

>>10805445
Christ was the first cultural Marxist and the first social justice warrior. The Gospels have always been poison to the Aryan soul.

>> No.10805629

>>10805623
>steals a word from the Indo-Iranians in the 19th century
>look we're Aryans!

>> No.10805642

>>10805623
This. Praise Kek. Keep up the good fight, white brother

>> No.10805648

>In the work of such a writer we must expect to encounter paradox. Simone Weil was three things in the highest degree: French, Jewish and Christian. She was a patriot who would gladly have been sent back to France to suffer and die for her compatriots: she had to die — partly, [ix] it would seem, as the result of self-mortification, in refusing to take more food than the official rations of ordinary people in France — in 1943 in a sanatorium at Ashford, Kent. She was also a patriot who saw clearly, as this book shows, the faults and the spiritual weakness of contemporary France. She was a Christian with an intense devotion to Our Lord in the Sacrament of the Altar, yet she refused baptism, and much of her writing constitutes a formidable criticism of the Church. She was intensely Jewish, suffering torments in the affliction of the Jews in Germany; yet she castigated Israel with all the severity of a Hebrew Prophet. Prophets, we are told, were stoned in Jerusalem: but Simone Weil is exposed to lapidation from several quarters. And in her political thinking she appears as a stern critic of both Right and Left; at the same time more truly a lover of order and hierarchy than most of those who call themselves Conservative, and more truly a lover of the people than most of those who call themselves Socialist. -T.S Eliot
Is she /ourgal/?

>> No.10805658

>>10805648
We're anti-semites here, sweety

>> No.10805659

>>10805648
no

>> No.10805679

>>10805648
Yes. She is an oasis. She possesses the same truths as the more weary, disillusioned pessimists, but with a grace that works as a supreme, active consolation. On the one hand she could dispel so many of the crude political psychoses of the day but I’d hate to see her trampled on and abused, a pearl thrown before swine etc.

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>>10805629
Esoteric Hitlerism harks back to the RigVeda, the original prayers of primal aryandom, then wandering through the Great Steppe. Hitlerism is the truth of Homer, the Olympus, Mahabarata, Zoroaster, the Nibelunglied and Wagner's Ring. Give me shelter in the inexistance of the Green Ray. Help me realize imposible dreams, the resurrection of the Amada, and the return of the Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler. The recreation of esoteric Hitlerism and the possesion of the archetype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSseSXIQBbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMpOZ1Vg6Nk

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>The laic (anti-clerical) system is not neutral. It inculcates in children a philosophy which is on the one hand very superior to religion of the SaintSulpice type, and on the other hand very inferior to genuine Christianity.

>To allow laic philosophy to preserve its official status would be an arbitrary measure, and an unjust one, seeing that it fails to correspond to a true scale of values, and one which would hurl us straight into totalitarianism. For although laicization has produced a certain amount of fervour of an almost religious kind, it is, by the very nature of things, a strictly limited amount; and we are living at a time when passions are fanned to white heat. Totalitarianism’s idolatrous course can only be arrested by coming up against a genuinely spiritual way of life. If children are brought up not to think about God, they will become Fascist or Communist for want of something to which to give themselves.

>Future professional teachers and schoolmasters should simply be told that religion has at all times and in all countries, save quite recently in certain parts of Europe, played a dominant rôle in the development of human culture, thought and civilization

She predicted the apparition of swjs and /pol/acks by lack of real spirituality

>> No.10805700

>>10805620
Thanks for the reference, mate.

>> No.10805756

>>10805648
Your quote just makes her seem like a cowardly armchair philosopher

>> No.10805760

>>10805756
>cowardly armchair philosopher
/ourgal/?

>> No.10805775

>>10805760
post of the day anon

>> No.10805789

>>10804757
You are really putting the cart before the horse, the West didn't collapse because of an irrelevant Jewess, I don't like Jews, but it seems like this particular Jew was just articulating existing feelings or feelings that would come into existence in the future due to global circumstances.
>It argues that "fake" roots (like ethnicity) make people unhappy and vicious, and that the real "roots" are communal ownership and diverse communities. She spends a section discussing patriotism, and says that any patriotism that is based on pride of a nation's strength is evil, and that true patriotism is "compassion" - compassion for others in the nation as well as those outside it.
this feeling would exist well without this Jewess, most people who agree with these ideas have probably never heard of her.

>> No.10805862

>>10805699
What's this from anon

>> No.10805864

>>10805862
The Need for Roots

>> No.10806579

>>10805789
>most people who agree with these ideas have probably never heard of her.
This is irrelevant. OP already explained how her influence has trickled through society. How her writings are required reading.

>> No.10806622

>>10805396
>It is a pagan virtue, if these two words are compatible
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ HOLY FUCK

>> No.10806647

>>10805537
You dont think her Spanish LARPing was wrong? Nor her attempt to pretended to be a worker?

>> No.10806656

>>10806647
You do?

>> No.10806690

>>10805543
The Jewish religion of today is not the same Jewish religion of the time of Christ in the same way that Christianity isn't the same religion.

>> No.10806712

>>10805687
>Esoteric Hitlerism harks back to the RigVeda, the original prayers of primal aryandom, then wandering through the Great Steppe
No it doesn't you just made that up
>Hitlerism is the truth of Homer, the Olympus, Mahabarata, Zoroaster, the Nibelunglied and Wagner's Ring
You just different parts of the IE religions together and are calling it Aryan as in Indo-Aryan as in Iran and the Indus Valley.
> Help me realize imposible dreams, the resurrection of the Amada, and the return of the Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler. The recreation of esoteric Hitlerism and the possesion of the archetype
this is retarded you don't understand science or linguistics. The Germanics and Nords aren't Aryans they're derived IE populations who mixed heavily with native WHG and EEF's along with ANE's. I'm not watching YT videos, post studies from the last 15 years that don't just say Celts and Germanics have Steppe admixture, which isn't the point, that point to the Indians either being Europeans from Europe or alternatively that the people who descended into India are the exact same people as the one's who mixed into the Europeans. There's a huge difference in the genetic profile of a German and a northern Indian, they share alleles that other groups don't possess but its not even remotely enough to say that the Aryans were literally at all like the Germanics and Celts of antiquity. There's basically no evidence that shows this and linguistics contradicts it as well. German is an IE language its not an Indo-Aryan language. Iranic and Indus Valley tongues are Indo-Aryan. The only people on Earth who were Aryans were those people who migrated from the Steppe and Settled in those regions of the world. They didn't go anywhere else, other IE people are the one's who settled in Europe not the Aryans. You're conflating one specific group of people with all the people from the Steppe who have R1A and R1B genetics. That's fucking stupid and not at all being racially precise, in fact its so broad a denotation of race that it renders the whole thing trivial and it would make more sense to just say caucasoid, but you specifically have a political intention in what you're saying. I think the most important thing to ask is, why do the depictions of the ancient Germanics and Aryans look different? Why are the ancient Iranians and Aryans of Indian described completely in contradiction to the Nords and why do Nords and Germanics have such sharp, strong distinct features, blue eyes, blonde hair and are so much larger than the Iranians and North Indians? Mutations don't happen that quickly those traits had to have been from other steppe populations, PIE peoples and from native WHG's who they mixed with. Which would make them something other than Aryan if they weren't the same group of people. The lack of rigor in Aryan theory is extremely disturbing in light of how its historically been used to unite disparate groups against the rest of humanity.

>> No.10806715

>>10804757
literally who?

>> No.10806718

>>10806715
Some marcionite jew who never got baptised and roleplayed to be a Catholic. Irrelevant like most 20th century theology.

>> No.10806731

>>10806690
but this is just your interpretation, we have no real way of knowing what's a novelty and what isn't. Further still you're just introducing a nonsequitor, all of the other claims stand even if I granted what you say (which I'm not); there is no evidence Christianity is anti-Judaic: Jews were all of the original apostles save for a very few, Jews were the elect who Christ revealed his secret sermons to, Jews were those who Christ went out of his way to convert and nearly all early Christian communities that were not Greek or Syrian which was most of them were Jewish; Jews are literally the people who are supposed to, as prophesied in Revelation, preach the hidden Gospel of the Second Coming gentiles are not allotted this task they are only said to have numbers of true believers who will be saved; the entirety of Biblical prophecy revolves around the Jewish people and their land of Israel; Jews built the Church with the Greeks in Rome, the Romans adopted it and perverted it into a monolithic institute to pacify the warlike Germanics and Celts; the Jews values bleed into all the books of the bible, the compassion and kindness of Christ in the synoptic gospels is a Rabbinic, Kabbalistic proto-Sufi form of morality that is only mirrored among certain Indian religious sects and is basically unheard of among Gentiles who at the time were a warmongering, vicious, bloodthirsty militant race; Jewish prophets and prophesies are validated and honored by Christ, a Jewish prophet named Enoch's book predicted Christ and the Second Coming before his birth; the God of Abraham and Isaac is the God of Christ and Christ affirms this, which means its the Jewish God of the old testament. I could go on but you're stupid

>"I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob," Matthew 22:32

>> No.10806743

>>10806731
They added a new holy text and no longer have priesthood.

>> No.10806757

>>10806743
that doesn't negate anything I said, and they kept the teachings of their ancestors intact much of the OT is basically reified ancient Israelite and Caananite religion, its not fan fiction from Antiquity and the Middle Ages anymore than the Christian books were which were all authored within the vicinity of Christ's death. Jewish religion is mostly ancient in origin and dates back to the New Kingdom. They still have the priest caste whose blood can be traced back to the ancient levant. They are the Jews of the bible, all of them, they just added the Talmud to survive diaspora life cuz you know you people have tried to kill them a lot of times.

you're also ignoring the quote from the Gospels that basically lays to rest this argument. Christ is the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, he is literally a Jew, he incarnated as a Jew, his first human contacts were the ancestors of the Caananites, Adam was born in the Middle East and was likely supposed to be proto-Caananite Semite. You can go around in circles and talk about late dates for Jewish texts but we'll end up with Moses and Jacob and David and Mary, all Jews, Christ's direct bloodline. The Kohanim are just Europeanized Jews with probably the most ancient lineages of the Jewish people going back to the priests of the first temple. All genetic studies of Jews show them to be from the Eastern Mediterranean as they cluster with Druze, Lebs, Palestinians, Jordanians, Greeks, Cyprans, Turks etc

>> No.10806793

>>10806656
With the first case definitely, she tied up resources the Anarchists simply didnt have to waste and was more of a threat to herself (which played out) and her compatriots.

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>>10805789
>it seems like this particular Jew was just articulating existing feelings or feelings that would come into existence in the future due to global circumstances.

this

>> No.10806887

>>10805197
that sounds pretty accurate desu

>> No.10806898

>>10806743
>i have not come to destroy the law but to uphold it
what did Rabbi Joshua mean by this?

>> No.10806902

>>10804757
>he doesn't want a virgin gf who understands philosophy and is willing to fight Trotsky IRL in her parents' living room
>when he says he wants a Catholic gf he means sticking it in the pooper
did we lift the ban on male (male) faggots on this board?

>> No.10806908

>>10805648
BASED jewess desu
i wish she were alive so i could nurse her khazar milkers

>> No.10806924

>>10806898
That he fulfilled it with Christianity and the Jews then went on to add a bunch of new laws anyway?

>> No.10806925

>>10806902
being a goy and having a jewish wife and making jewish children with her is the ultimate redpill

think about it

>> No.10806928

>>10806925
pls stop typing your homo words at me

>> No.10806940

>>10806924
>That he fulfilled it with Christianity
jesus didn't create christianity

>> No.10806944

>>10806940
>jesus didn't create christianity
i think he helped

>> No.10806958

>>10806944
not really. if i get a bunch of people together and create a religion based on william rehnquist being god (as indicated by signs and wonders and the divine hand obvious in his judicial decisions) that doesn't mean his dearly departed honor had any hand in it.

jesus was just a rebellious jew (among a fractious and rebellious people). some people then took his story and ran with it in a very retarded direction.

>> No.10807006

>>10806940
Of course he did, he's God.

>> No.10807016

>>10807006
read The Anti-Christ and stop saying stupid things to stupid people thinking it makes you intelligent

>> No.10807037

>>10804757
>argues that "fake" roots (like ethnicity) make people unhappy and vicious, and that the real "roots" are communal ownership and diverse communities

You could argue this is the result of the jewish experience after being "freed" from the ghettoes. Modernism just hit jews a little ahead of everyone else.

>> No.10807042

>>10805699
Wtf is wrong with her hand?

>> No.10807072

>>10807016
I've read it and not sure how it that's supposed to convince me of anything.

>> No.10807154

>>10806647
Yeah her Spanish LARPing was deeply embarrassing. Didn’t she admit her own ineptness? It doesn’t sour her work for me, I can vaguely relate to the adolescent impulse of it - though Weil obviously goes beyond that given her commitment to real work and action, and the presumable naive idealism, rather than cynical virtue signalling that spurred it.