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Has anyone read this? Can you give me a quick rundown of the story and the content?

>> No.10803024

>>10803018
I got it as a gift, and I'm reading it now. At least from what I've read thus far, it has very little to do with what she thinks went wrong in the 2016 election and more to do with her feelings on politics in general.
If you want a book on her campaign, pick up Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes

>> No.10803031

>>10803018
Is there anything they don't slap "New York Times Bestseller" on?

>> No.10803083

>>10803018
I’ve read it. It has a wide range of insights into how our political process is being subverted by corporate and foreign interests. There are lots of anecdotal examples provided to show how the election was stolen from her. I highly recommend it for anyone who wants to be aware of the current state of our democracy.

>> No.10803119

>>10803031
Books that aren't New York Times Bestsellers, for one.

>> No.10803145

>>10803031
You underestimate how few copies of something you need to sell to be considered a best seller. It's a lot free than you think, that's why there are so many

>> No.10803173

>>10803018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g5Hz17C4is

>> No.10803181

>>10803018
It's obviously got the classic Clinton-brand political polish, so if you're looking for the "authentic Clinton" people keep searching for, you'll have to find a time machine and travel back to before she was excoriated for giving a speech on "ecstatic modes of living" or something and turned into Punished Hilldog. Aside from that, however, it's not too bad. It was sort of filled with old news when it came out, and nothing was particularly offensive imo, and despite what a lot of people said she did concede that it was her fault too that she lost the election, but because a lot of people want her crucified it of course didn't satisfy her haters. Ultimately, it's just... eh.

>>10803024
This is a lot more raw. Some of the passages in it really wrench at your heartstrings. I recommend this more than I do the former. Neither of these books, however, are compassionless towards Hillary, which I appreciate. I like viewing politicians as vulnerable humans, not heroes or villains, and seeing a tiny glimpse of what made Hilldog tick was fascinating.

>> No.10803244

>>10803083
that subversion of corporate and foreign interests will exist so long as democracy exists. it's a fact of life in our day and age and there's no escape from it.

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>>10803244
soon

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>>10803018
FAKE
NEWS
IT'S
THE
JEWS

>> No.10803385

>>10803083
I hope she includes herself as part of the group subverting it, but I highly doubt it.

>> No.10803412

I voted for Brexit and love Trump.

Does Hillary's book seem interesting if you view it as the work of a corrupt as fuck, extremely cynical politician who wants to replace the citizens of the Western world with low IQ, docile creatures

>> No.10803519

>>10803412
Can I ask you in good faith how the do you think anything will change by voting brexit or trump? While I do agree with brexit, not for immigration reasons only, and I'd rather have an incompetent idiot than a good politician at the top of the biggest terrorist country in the world. How do you think this will change anything if immigration and cheap labour are in the nature of capitalism?
>>10803083
>how our political process is being subverted by corporate and foreign interests.
But she is a rappresentative of all those things

>> No.10803533

>>10803412
>Muslims and africans
>Docile

>> No.10803577

>>10803519
You seriously think Hillary represents corporate and foreign interests?
Then why is she beloved by the most marginalized members of society? Because she fights for their rights.

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>>10803577
low effort bait, and im replying to it

>> No.10803608

>>10803577
If you think that the most marginalized members of society are blacks, women, gays you are simply stupid.
If you think hilary clinton has the same problems of a Vietnamese women working in a sweatshop, or a single mother working at McDonald's you are a fucking idiot.
Plus she's not beloved by anyone. The lower class, most marginalized one, are got conned by trump.
The only people who love her are stupid fucks who seriously think that your identity comes before your class.
I swear fucking liberals are no better than /pol/ tards

>> No.10803612

>>10803519
>But she is a rappresentative of all those things
Who do you Donald "mini nukes" Trump represents?

>> No.10803613

>Can you give me a quick rundown of the story and the content?

The title is basically the entire story, Hillary Rodham Clinton is what happened.

>> No.10803616

>>10803612
White people obviously

>> No.10803622

>>10803612
The same exact thing. Just stupid, vulgar and decaying. Like modern day america.

>> No.10803623

>>10803616
I see.

>> No.10803631

>>10803623
It's not an opinion every white demographic voted for Trump except single women. No non-white demographic voted for him except I think Orthodox Jews

>> No.10803642

>>10803616
>>10803631
Fuck off already

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>>10803577

>> No.10803645

>>10803608
>Minorities aren’t marginalized by inst. racism
W
E
w

>> No.10803649

>>10803642
Classic leftist response to being shown the reality behind their ridiculous facade

As the US becomes more multi-ethnic its politics will become ethnic conflict like every other multi-ethnic country.

>> No.10803651

>>10803631
I don't disagree, my comment was about which piece of the economic elite he represents.

>> No.10803663

>>10803018

A reality TV celebrity sex offender with no political experience other than leading the Birther movement ran for president. The Democrats rigged their race to install the only candidate who could possibly lose to him, Hillary Rodham Clinton. Hillary Rodham Clinton spends the entire book blaming other people for the loss, never at all questioning her decisions like getting US to go to war with half the middle east.

>> No.10803676

>>10803645
Marginalization is not when you don't have a black protagonist, but when you make shit money for a shit job and live in debt for life depending on your shit job for the rest of life scared of losing it.
The rust belt is not exclusively black. >>10803649
Ethnic politics are good for the ruling class who'd rather have immersed in bullshit than make you think that your fellow white worker have more in common with you than a black basketball player

>> No.10803697

>>10803676
I don't think there is a conspiracy, it's just vote-buying. The 'ruling class' is not actually that easy to identify anyway. There is an entire bureaucratic organism totally separate from any kind of democratic control in the US, and its funding doesn't come from corporations either.

>> No.10803698

>>10803577
I know this is b8 but
>Fights for their rights
The Clinton's did a ton to step up mandatory minimums and 70s era crime hysteria
Also she was against gay marriage when she ran against Obama
The Clintons are some of the worst fucking people to happen to politics. Not because they're some massive evil conspiracy, just because ultimately their big contribution to the American zeitgeist is the unopposed institutionalization of reaganite austerity neoliberalism. Neoliberal austerity with a human face

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>>10803412
Better than extremely low iq, docile crearures than you

>> No.10803709

>>10803083
>two candidates
>the one with fewer popular votes wins
>democracy

>> No.10803710

>>10803608
>t middleclasswhitemale

>> No.10803711

>>10803676
It always amazes me how few people care about Bacon's Rebellion. The truth of our racial politics has been out in the open for centuries.

>> No.10803726

>>10803676
>Marginalization is not having a black protagonist
Stopped reading there.
You don’t understand what it’s like to grow up and see all the “heroes” on movies and TV be white males. If you are a minority or a female you feel as if you cannot accomplish what these characters can.

>> No.10803734

>>10803709
>the one with more electoral college votes win
>exactly how the system was designed
>each candidate knew this before the race, and should have campaigned accordingly
>the archetype and pinnacle of representative democratic republic.
Are you really unable to see the Irony of a book complaining about foreign and corporate interests coming from the candidate with the most money from foreign and corporate interests in history?

>> No.10803742

>>10803709
Majority rule is a fucking garbage system and you know it

>> No.10803743

>>10803726
Shit, I'm half asian. Name a more underrepresented group in movies.
Still I'd rather not worry about paying alimony, taxes and affording a house that doesn't smell of murder with 3k a month

>> No.10803756

>>10803743
the entire Leftist argument just dissolves around the mere existence of East Asians.

>> No.10803757

>>10803726
Do you realize how many fucking white bois wanted to be bruce lee when they grew up? Do you not understand that Mr. T is an icon for all Americans? Morals are not racial. Did anyone not like Eddie Murphy? If white people can look up to an idolize black people, why can't black people look up to and idolize white people? Why dose it matter what fucking race someone is, more than their actions and values? How stupid and racist do you have to be that you can't respect someone because of the color of their skin? Why are you telling black people that they can only aspire to be like other black people? You're racist.

>> No.10803759

>>10803734
>the archetype and pinnacle of representative democratic republi

you need to got back

>> No.10803766

>>10803759
Name a better, longer lasting, more stable system.

>> No.10803767

>>10803757
But how is he supposed to admit that and then hold onto his victim card?

>> No.10803771

>>10803756
Being what? There are no poor people in east asia? There is no alienation in east asia? There is no consumerism in asia? Fuck off

>> No.10803775

>>10803757
Man I really wanted to be like micheal jordan as a kid but now liberals definitely made me more conscious of race unwillingly. They really only have themselves to blame

>> No.10803780

>>10803766
>crisis every 8 years
>Stable

>> No.10803784

>>10803771
being that poor, mistreated East asian minorites peform better even than whites in metrics like educational achievement, crime rates, IQ, etc.

If you're talking about Marxist Leftists then no that's a different thing

>> No.10803788

>>10803767
>Victim card
Haha I’m not a little bitch.
I escaped the inner city. Got a full ride to Harvard. PhD in pol. Science. I campaigned for Obama in 2008, even shook his hand when he came to Boston. Now I’m director of diversity at a small liberal arts college in the Midwest.
I just laugh at how white boys play the victim to “muh ((()))” and then act like minorities use the victim card.

>> No.10803789

>>10803726
Too bad they can't have thier own forms of media that arent owned by joos. Whitey aint the problem

>> No.10803791

>>10803780
>crises every 8 years.
Oh, gotcha. You're only 14. Some day you'll be old enough to realize that journalists are always apoplectic, and their stories don't actually represent reality.

>> No.10803795

>>10803784
>implying quality of life is determined by how valuable they are to employers
Oink oink

>> No.10803797

>>10803795
I implied nothing of the sort, you are pathologically obsessed. If you don't understand why that undermines the Leftist project idk what to tell you

>> No.10803801

>>10803775
Right? They're trying to bring back segregation while calling it progress. Absolutely mind boggling.

>> No.10803803

>>10803766
Nice shifting of goalposts.

Great Britain, to start. But you know you shouldn’t teach your daddy to fuck.

>> No.10803815

>>10803803
I love Great Britain. I was born there, and my ancestors are from there. But it is far less free, and did you forget about Cromwell? Also, if the archetype is not the first, best, longest lasting, and most stable, then what is the archetype. We could add to that freedom, which would still have America in the lead.

>> No.10803821

>>10803784
>If you're talking about Marxist Leftists then no that's a different thing
M8 all of my post itt are from a Marxist Leftist prospective, it's the liberal fuck who shout shit like "muh blacks in movie" i specifically said that that's not marginalization.
>>10803791
Journalists do exaggerate when it comes to predict one. But when it happens, it happens for real

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>>10803803
>once again a newfag has no idea what Shifting the goalposts mean
>Great Britain for start
>Once again a newfag has no understanding of history
Yes because the British Empire is the peak of all egalitarian ideals and is self evidently the most stable democracy to ever exist.

Representative democracy and the electoral college system was designed to mitigate what's known as "the tyranny of the majority" where people from certain geographic areas can completely dictate the lives of those living hundreds of miles away by virtue of population. Purely direct democracy is mob rule , if you had ever read anything by John Stuart Mill or De Tocqueville and not Huffington Post you would realize this

>> No.10803833

>>10803815
> far less free
wtf are you talking about
> did you forget about cromwell?
no. did you forget about your civil war?
> we could add to that freedom.
shifting goalposts again.

>> No.10803834

>>10803821
>Marxist Leftist prospective,
Well I fear Leftism has somewhat passed you by then. Class warfare seems to have been basically forgotten in the wake of intersectionality

>> No.10803836

>>10803018
Old lady yells at cloud

>> No.10803841

>>10803821
>but when it happens, it happens for real
???
So you admit you're 14?

>> No.10803857

>>10803822
> talking about democracy
> start talking about stability and longevity of political systems.

l think it’s you who doesn’t know what shifting goalposts means.

> we must have le electoral college to avoid le direct mob rule

whatever you say anon.

>> No.10803866

>>10803833
Press freedom laws are not as wide. Libel and slander laws are stricter for royalty and government than for ordinary citizens. Education is less flexible. Their citizenry has less effect on policy. They have actual, legally enforced classes.

Cromwell was an actual dictator who took control of the government. The civil war was a rebellion, but the same government was in control before, during, and after. The same legal documents from our nation's founding are still in place as the supreme law of the land.

Lastly, I cannot shift the goalposts if you refuse to either provide or accept a definition. I said it is the archetype and pinnacle of a representative democratic republic. If we were to actually debate this, step one would be agreeing on how such a claim could be measured and assessed. I've provided several possible metrics. You have done nothing.

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>>10803577

>> No.10803870

>>10803834
I know. Still. I'm not gonna change position because fags in college are idiots.
>>10803841
I lived enough to remember just 3 of them, not being american, the 1997 one in asia because I was living there and I was 3, the 2008 one and the european one in 2010.
These affected me. But you are more of an apologist of imperial britain, and so I have to give it to you: It was fucking A stable, Britain had to colonize half the world and kill millions but it was stable as fuck

>> No.10803884

>>10803870
If you have to use military force to make it work, can you really call it stable, or particularly representative?

>> No.10803890

>>10803771
It's more that East Asians are the most marginalized and discriminated against group, the only group discriminated against both leftists for being successful and the right for being soulless slant eyes. yet are the most successful anyways.

Affirmative action, using racial discrimination to accomplish equity looks positively retarded when you realize that by far the most adversely affected by it are East Asians. In an attempt to counter some of the advantages white people got through systemic oppression I.E. slavery what affirmative action actually ends up doing is oppressing an already oppressed minority and giving their jobs to another minority group. This inconvenient truth is probably the biggest problem with racial politics on the left because it's obviously and demonstrably untrue that seeking equity through racial discrimination will result in equality. Yet this is the status quo.

I would also argue that how East Asia has pulled many people out of poverty using capitalism and "exploitation" such as sweatshop labor also really makes the lefts arguments look fucking stupid. East Asians were far poorer under gommunism than they are under capitalism. Of course the lefts concerns about the exploitation of east asians by capitalists were never sincere and were only ever driven by pro-union protectionist interests.

>> No.10803893

>>10803884
I was ironic. I call myself marxist and then make apologism for colonialism and imperialism? What am I? hitchens?

>> No.10803897

>>10803857
>l think it’s you who doesn’t know what shifting goalposts means.
No it went more like
>Talk about democracy
>Talk what is best democracy and why
That's not shifting the goalposts , at all
>That weak leddit tier rebuttal
Lmao, read a book faggot

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>>10803018
It is a comedy book

>> No.10803920

>>10803897
> electoral colleges are somehow integral to representative democracy

make reddit claims, get reddit answers

>> No.10803921

>>10803890
Yeah, except the right doesn't discriminate against East Asians. Maybe the military component did for a bit after WWII, but by and large Chinese, Japanese, and Korean immigrants are seen as model citizens. There is a great respect for a somewhat general culture of hard work, community responsibility, and familial devotion. Many right-wring writers talk extensively about how we can make the success of East Asian immigrants a broader cultural trend.

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>>10803890
>I would also argue that how East Asia has pulled many people out of poverty using capitalism
Lmao. Korea had more prostitution than fucking Thailand and more suicides than everyone else. Slums are a thing, granny prostitutes are a thing and "confort women" for US soldiers are a thing.
North korea was richer until the 2 coup d'etat organized by americans in South Korea. They applied a 5 plan that made their economy go boom. This did nothing for equality tho.
Korea today is totally fucked up and drinks more than russia.
North Korea is only poor because of the fucking sanctions and bans, but it's still standing there.
No m8. I growed up there in poverty and got out of there just because I had a gold digger mother who sent me to europe.
I don't give a shit what other leftist think, korea for me is a wasteland. Culturally and economically wise

>> No.10803940

>>10803920
> electoral colleges are somehow integral to representative democracy
... In the United States. But then, again you are only Reddit and can only give Reddit answers seeing as how everything is shifting the goal posts and other phrases you probably heard of only a few days ago.

>> No.10803945

>>10803920
Can't wait for the next terse meme answer tho

>> No.10803948

>>10803857
>talking about being the closest to the ideal of a representative democratic republic.
>The ideal of a representative democratic republic is a stable, long lasting, system of government that affords as much freedom to its citizens as possible.
>Measure the success of representative democratic republics on those qualities
Shifting the goalposts how?

>> No.10803972

>>10803742
Ok, but it hardly means Big Bubba the Cattle Rapist's vote ought to count for more than Steven Hawking's

>> No.10803989

>>10803940
>>10803920
Democracy is volatile. Some kind of mechanism is needed that allows the government to function in an orderly fashion while not limiting the voice of the people. The electoral college is one mechanism among many, and it serves a vital role. Because of the state system, the US has a somewhat compartmentalized culture and economy; the electoral college combines the popular interest with the territorial interest. This lets the states actually have a large measure of independence without ever gaining too much power over any of the others. The importance of the electoral college is perfectly demonstrated by the 3/5ths compromise and the Civil War. The 3/5ths compromise ceded enough power to the economically superior south to ensure the initial union, but not so much that their supremacy was guaranteed. When the Southern States no longer held the stronger position, they rebelled. They lost because their system was inferior to the northern system.

>> No.10803998

>>10803884
Well this was a conversation about the good ol US of A initially, so apparently

>> No.10804024

>>10803972
It absolutely does mean that. That is it's entire purpose. You are committing an appeal to authority. Forgetting for now that Hawking is British, his intelligence does not make him inherently right in all things. If Hawking cannot adequately communicate his position to Bubba the half-wit, then we as a nation cannot in good faith follow Hawking's position. Government relies on consent. If we simply yield control to the states with a larger population, and yield those states to the most powerful people in their government, we will no longer be a democracy. The electoral college limits the influence of the more prosperous and populous states, and empowers the weaker states, keeping the entire nation at a relatively even keel. We all rise together, and we all fall together. There is no other way. If the entire midwest and interior west are opposed to the coastal view, then we cannot simply follow the coasts. The South was once more populated and more economically prosperous than any other region. Had we not had the electoral college, they never would have fallen from power, and we would still have slavery.

>> No.10804032

>>10803998
And the US for most of its history has had to use very little military strength within its territory. Extreme policing has only come about as a response to purposeful foreign disruption via narcotics.

>> No.10804045

>>10803939
Lol another butthurt commie blaming capitalist military action for the economic failures of communism. Mind you, scapegoating the failures of communism on the capitalist militarism can't explain shit like why China became so much more wealthy when it started allowing more capitalism and adopted free trade policies. This is because capitalist militarism isn't why communist economies truly failed, communist economies failed because communism is retarded.

>Relative poverty rate
Lmfao, I was talking about how east asia has become more rich, not about how it has become more equal. The poorest in east asia are less poor, the middle class now actually exists, and the rich are more rich. However, because leftists are pathologically envious, they see everybody getting richer as being a bad outcome if somebody else gets a bigger cut than they do.

This is why they like the system of communism where the state oppresses everybody into being poor to establish a state of little "relative poverty". If everybody is standing in bread lines, nobody has to feel bad about it!

>> No.10804068

>>10803709
>brainlet can’t into Hamilton

>> No.10804069

>>10803757
Assuming that person wasn't trolling, then holy shit, that person needs to be put into a cryogenic freezer and thrown into the arctic tundra to recover from the searing fire of those burn wounds.

>> No.10804074

>>10803989
Government by the people and for the people. Unless the people want something the existing power structure doesn't. Maybe it reads well in some high school thought experiment, but ultimately it just means the political classes can just engineer their way around popular will. Most US states are more gerrymandered than Latin American banana republics.
Seriously ask yourself why the most recent presidential election, supposedly a major way for the people to choose their representatives, featured two of the least popular candidates in history
The system is working as intended

>> No.10804079

>>10803939
>North Korea is only poor because of sanctions
North Korea has an ally in China. Without intervention, they have more fertile land than the South, and immense amounts of other natural resources. Due to a relative lack of some modern resources, they would not be able to be as industrialized as many countries. But with the protection of China, they could safely grow as a pastoral country. Instead they depleted their soil, put all of their resources into military and false cities, and now force the people into hard labor under impossibly harsh laws. They could easily get rid of sanctions, but their despot of a ruler refuses to yield control. It's literally tyranny.

>> No.10804099

>>10804024
>You are committing an appeal to authority.
Ceded
>Consent of the goverened
That's a happy thought I guess, see
>>10804074
Which is ultimately what I'd like to get at

>> No.10804150

>>10804074
But that's not true. They were two of the least liked candidates, which is mostly driven by people's personal opinion of the candidate, as measured by things like "would you want to have a beer with this person." Prior to the unsubstantiated claims of sexual assault and unfounded claims of russian interference, Trump had overwhelming electoral support. That he still won after so many otherwise career ending news cycles demonstrates clearly the incredible fervor of his supporters. That he spent relatively little money, against an opponent spending trillions shows that "likability" has got little to do with popularity or belief in their leadership.

>> No.10804312

QUICK RUNDOWN:
>extremely unlikable candidate with a headstart loses to late entry Obama
>is forced to support him and becomes awful secretary of state
>accomplish nothing and fuck up all along the way gathering dirt and criticisms on her way
>decides to run again
>no one likes her
>majority wants Bernie
>rig primaries so she wins
>still extremely unlikeable but leftists are so up in arms about Trump they blindly follow the DNC
>lose to a narcistic mogul who had as much political experience as a turd in the dirt


Hmmm what went wrong??

>> No.10804338

>>10804312
Pretty apt summary.

>> No.10804450

>>10804312
>accomplish nothing
No. Libya was done by Clinton and Obama, as preparation to set up some "winning points" for when she runs.
Ends up in total disaster and fucks over Europe with the refugee crisis.

She didn't do fuckall, anon. She really fucked up.

>> No.10804481

>>10804312
Didnt bernie also have like no numbers with minorities?

>> No.10804917

>>10804312
bretty gud

>> No.10804919

tl;dr
Meme magic is extremely powerful

>> No.10804920

>>10804919
this helped

>> No.10804927

>>10803261
HUEY, THE BOY

>> No.10804937

>>10803083
>It has a wide range of insights into how our political process is being subverted by corporate and foreign interests
Does Goldman Sachs and broing it up with the Saudis not count as corporate and foreign interests now? lmao. the absolute state of liberals

>> No.10804950

>>10804481
Yeah thats cause dem socialism is a white under 30 mans game. The high social trust you need to make socialism work just doesn't exist in non-white communities. Socialised states work in Denmark, Germany, Finland, Australia even...anywhere where there is still some social capital. People can put into a system with the knowledge that they can also cash out. No such state of trust exists in America

>> No.10804953

>>10804481
Hillary was an awful choice, but Bernie realistically had no way of winning.

Voting, especially in presidential elections, is an image-driven popularity contest, and a bald, perpetually disheveled, hunched-over jew that looks like his wife buys his suits at walmart had no chance of winning.

Hell, there hasn't been a president under 5'11" since we gave women the vote.

>> No.10804963

>>10804953
Manlets unequivocally btfo

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>>10803145
Then why isn't your novel a bestseller, Anon?

>> No.10805022

Who honestly cares about Hillary Clinton anymore? I don’t and I voted for her. She was a candidate for a job and didn’t get the job. Imagine writing a book about why you didn’t get hired for a job

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>>10803018

>> No.10805055

>>10805022
B-but that's the ethos of victim culture. IT WAS HER TURN!

>> No.10805183

>>10803788
uh bro: discrimination against whites is the law of the land in America. affirmative action is a real thing, PhD man, and its minority supporters have the gall to call it a fight for equality.

and using the "muh (((them)))" card will not scare the boss into doing what you want, it will get you fired

>> No.10805185

>>10803083
>sell out to foreign corporations
>lose election anyway
>cry about the state of democracy
Classic.

>> No.10805257

>>10805052
This is the best thing I've read on 4chan, which isn't saying shit, but still

>> No.10806061
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>>10805257
>>10805052

>> No.10806105

>>10805183
>discrimination against whites
white women are the largest beneficiaries of affirmative action

>> No.10806131

>>10803726
Have you tried writing a book instead of blaming white people for not writing about POC? If you see whites as a separate group from you then why are they responsible for creating YOUR groups culture? Stop blaming whitey for POC writing shitty books

>> No.10806167

>>10805185
>sell out to oil and finance
>sell out to Putin and Murdoch
>win election
>cry about your enemies attacking you endlessly
classic

>> No.10806250

>>10806105
that's only because even with the bar lowered blacks and latinos find it difficult to get their shit together and break free of their cultural inertia.

and it's still discrimination.

>> No.10806413

>>10803018
It's literally just a case of "it's everyone's fault but me"
Basically this:
>It was all because of Russian interference
>Fuck Comey that jew bastard pos
>Bernie should have supported me sooner

>> No.10806428

>>10803726
Homosexuals have serious psychological problems because there are so few of them. They are a minority, and this makes it hard for them to adjust to and live in a world which is dominated by people who are very different from them. The result is that they spend their entire lives wrestling with their identities, trying to reconcile their values with those of the people who are on top. Black people spend their entire lives concerning themselves with their blackness, cripples with their disabilities, ethnic minorities with their marginalized cultures, and so on and so forth. This makes it both annoying for us to interact with them, and it also makes it very difficult for them to succeed in a world dominated by people who are happy and secure with their identities, and who are therefore far better able to focus on goals external to them — which is how the world is shaped. It is this shaping that leads to the domination of a sexual orientation, a race, or an ethnicity, and it is this domination which CREATES the minorities which then proceed to spend all their energy neurotically spinning about their identities, which merely serves to further marginalize them, and so on to infinity.

>> No.10806431

>>10806428
I think the main advantage homosexuals have is they don't carry the burden of our ancestors. I can't imagine how bad it must be to be black and have every single person in your family lamenting about their oppression. At least when you're gay all your family members are heterosexuals who are by and large much healthier.

I think heavy exposure to other minorities is probably the most destructive thing for minorities.

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>>10803018
Imagine how much her ghostwriter got paid.

>> No.10806493

>>10806167
he still won you dumb faggot
putin is propaganda you brainwashed faggot. Wake up to your own delusions man, just because it reaffirms your confirmation bias doesnt mean its the truth

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>>10805052
>>10806061
amazing

>> No.10806772

>>10806428
I agree. It would be way better for everyone if people of different cultures and ethnicities would live among their own groups, in their own countries. Then we wouldn't have problems relating to fractured identities.

>> No.10807074

>>10806772
Mhm. I think that's what it all's heading to.

>> No.10807090

>>10803577
Check your bank account, should have come through by now.

>> No.10807197

>>10803031
your novel

>> No.10807215

>>10803412
> claims Hillary is corrupt
> literally supports a non-politician who has ties to oligarchies, is in immense debt to international banks, had his election aided by russian hackers and his followers persuaded by memes and fake news through social media, is easily manipulated by both the republicans and democrats, etc etc
> he supports Brexit, the reason why things are much more expensive in the supermarkets now because companies are less willing to provide us with the same amount of their products, most industries being hit immensely and having to lay people off and while all this is happening, the borders are not tightening or being protected by the EU

How can you be such a fucking mongoloid

>> No.10807223

>>10803412
Just so you know, many of the Eastern european workers on British fields have left and last Summer most of our fruit turned moldy in the fields as british working class people don't want to pick the fruit and the people who do now are leaving because the British pound is worth less in comparison to their third-world fucking slavistan currency.

>> No.10807840

>>10806250
Close but not quite. The problem is that lowering the bar might get one round of higher numbers, but hides the underlying problem, which continues to fester. If normally under qualified applicants get jobs and get into schools based on the color of their skin, and if we lower the educational standards for them, we hide the fact that their schools are failing. This lets the overwhelming beuracracy of our government weigh down on these schools and these communities in full force. They are told that they are being cared for with these affirmative action policies, but all that's really happening is that what's worst in our cities is rewarded while those who actually strive for something better are met with mounting challenges. What was once a temporary crisis has become endemic. Most ethnic groups are marginalized until they begin, slowly, to reach the same educational levels as the general population. Via affirmative action, Black Americans have been denied this.

>> No.10807860

>>10803351
>Dark and disturbing
>A Modest Proposal

>> No.10807872

>>10807215
>Politics is corrupt, due to too much influence from international corporations, international banks, and foreign interests.
>Not-being a politician is a bad thing.
>Hillary Clinton literally topples democratically elected governments and uses the protection of an NGO to have a hand in the governing of countries around the world
>Trump hired some people who are connected to some people who have done business with Clinton and her Affiliates who have done bad things with bad people. This makes Trump worse.
>Corporations are greedy, soulless organizations who have no interest but profit
>They are sacrificing their profit to punish people because the election didn't go their way.
>Because the corporations are unhappy, we should have done what they asked.
>The fact that British politicians who didn't want Brexit are failing to negotiate Brexit despite their immense financial leverage means that Brexit shouldn't have happened, and the country should have caved to international corporations.
Introducing Cognitive Dissonance, a new fragrance from Dior.

>> No.10807875

>>10803676
Trump voters had above average incomes iirc. Largely because they were, you know, white.

>> No.10807892

>>10803784
That is specifically because of selection caused by discrimination, distance, and timeframe, as mostly only wealthy asians were capable of immigrating into the US. Largely a consequence of legislation against asian immigrants which didn't fully go away until 1965.

>> No.10807912

>>10807223
>Brexit is bad because it hurts the working class
>Companies will have to pay the working class more

>Immigrants don't take jobs from the working class
>The working class not filling the jobs left open by immigrants because they are demanding a higher pay

>Immigrants improve our culture
>Immigrants are only here to send strong currencies back to their shit hole countries.

>These jobs are necessary for our economy and our survival
>The accountants would rather let the fruit grow mouldy and lose all costs than pay workers more and lose less.

>The working class can't get properly employed due to greedy corporations, so we have to give them money to do nothing
>Now that we aren't undercutting our own labor market, the working class doesn't want to work for less than they're getting paid to do nothing

Who could have prevented this?

>> No.10807920

>>10807892
>only wealthy asians were capable of immigrating
>the origins of the asian community in America is in the slave labor of our railroads.

Pick one

>> No.10807933

>>10807875
or, you know, propaganda is most effective on the ignorant

>> No.10807936

>>10807920
Both actually. They have different origins(in class) and the newer first community is significantly larger than the community that worked on railroads(they often didn't even stay in america). There are even asians with southern accents on the mississippi iirc.

>> No.10807959

>>10806167
>b-but DRUMPF!
Piss off. This is a thread about the queen of corporate neo-liberal bullshit, not the orange guy who makes you cry.

>> No.10808110

>>10807936
Crazy. It's kinda like you can't treat any race as a monolith, because there's actually many different communities that might not actually share much social history

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>> No.10808652

>>10806061
>>10805052
What the hell is this, where do I read more?

>> No.10808759

>>10803031
my diary

>> No.10808793

>>10807223
Our people are so shit that they'd rather not do any manual labor and prefer to live on the dole. That will be given to them by taking others people money (only three ways the money for the dole can come =taxes, taking gov.debt or "printing" money all of these take value out of the hands of other people).
Instead of doing something to fix our society and useless people - we complain that our slaves are leaving :(.

>> No.10808804

>>10807912
heh 9/10 - isn't it funny ... isn't it funny..
how self-contradictory the "mainstream" political views are nowadays?

>> No.10808936

>>10808804
*tips newsboy hat*
m..m..m'xady