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Most important book of last year.

>> No.10788579

you should elaborate on why

>> No.10789055

>>10788560

Agreed.

>> No.10789185

> most important book of last year is at least 10 years too late

>> No.10789813

>>10788560
This book is incredibly depressing

>>10789185
This

>> No.10789837

yep

>> No.10789867

>>10788560

How reactionary is it? Is it from the viewpoint of an angry neo-nazi?

>> No.10789874

>>10789867
>Is it from the viewpoint of an angry neo-nazi?
my god, the delusion of leftists is unbelievable

>> No.10789877

>>10789874

Answer the question.

>> No.10789882

Nah it's just stating the obvious and way too tamely at that.
"Europe, burdened by historical guilt, is taking on immigrants beyond its capacity" is neither a controversial nor groundbreaking thesis.

>> No.10789890

>>10789882

Is it so much historical guilt as opposed to capitalists wanting more future workers?

>> No.10789896

>>10789890
Historical guilt, or perhaps more accurately a weariness of fighting and beleving in Europe due to historical guilt, is what causes the actual people of Europe to be accepting of it all. Because at the end of the day all the people would need to do to put a stop to it is aggressively oppose it - just look at the balkan states.

>> No.10789899

>>10789882
It's controversial to the Europeans who keep voting for the denial parties, which is the majority.

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>>10788560
>soumission came out in 2015

>> No.10789905

>>10789899
No it isn't. Even the most accepting people and parties understand the scale of immigration is presenting a problem, if nothing else at a purely logistical level.

>> No.10789915

>>10789903
and how many kids do u have? how many women have u even fucked? sick of these guys bitching about declining white births but they can't stop playing video games and watching cartoons long enough to go outside and get some pussy

>> No.10789924

>>10789867
Google the author.

You've already jumped to huge conclusions so there's probably no point you even picking up the book

>> No.10789925

>>10789905
Even talking about the logistics of migration in public discourse was unthinkable a couple of years ago.

>> No.10789929

>>10789925
Well the book didn't come out a couple of years ago.

>> No.10789930

>>10789924

I will admit to jumping to conclusions but I was simply asking a question. Usually things like this are by Youtube personalities or... orange politicians claiming they can fix everything because everything is horrible.

>> No.10789936

>>10789915
I'm just making a remark about time passing quickly.

Where does the elaborate strawman come from?

>> No.10789949

>>10789915
Nigger, kids are expensive and I dont get pity dollars and want to live somewhere actually nice b4 doing so its not really rocket science why most whites dont reproduce as much. A war would prob help tho

>> No.10789957

>>10789949

>pity dollars

Confirmed for American.

>> No.10789959

>>10789949
>A war would prob help tho
>In the age of the atomic bomb

>> No.10789972

>>10789930
I haven't actually finished it. I'm not sure if he offers any conclusions at the end, but in the first half (and title) he makes it sound like a lost cause

>> No.10789980

>>10789959
So it would help a lot.

>> No.10789983

>>10789980
It would help you if you want mutant kids with 3 arms and 2 dicks.

>> No.10789985

>>10789867
>liberal gay man is a literal nazi because he would prefer not to be thrown off of rooftops by pakis

>> No.10790074

>>10789890
>capitalists wanting more future workers
Then why are the vast majority of those who come unemployed?

>> No.10790083

>>10789972
it is so obviously a lost cause I dont see how anybody even pretends. Europeans don't have children. Immigrants keep coming. Immigrants also have children

not rocket science

>> No.10790388

>>10789915
I wonder who's behind this post?

>> No.10790666

>>10789903
wasn't the point of the book that islam may be a good thing?

>> No.10790672

>>10789903
I bought it when it was first published and I still haven’t read it

>> No.10790681

>>10789890
It's jews from the top down, not some abstract demographic group known as "capitalists." Like the other poster said nearly all these people are unemployed and retarded. High-level jews want them in the West because a) they destroy our countries (and jews have no loyalty to our countries anyway -- they hate whites most of all), b) they force Europeans to pay for them with their tax dollars so we become more indebted to jewish banks, and c) the welfare (our tax dollars) these shitskins spend gives the illusion of growth, which these jews need to keep their Keynesian scam going. Jews are the source of the problem and whites must remove them from our countries, then we can get rid of these third world peasants they let in. Period.

>> No.10790687

>>10790681

You have a board you should return to with your retardation.

>JEWS
>>>/pol/

Please return.

>> No.10790691

>>10790687
Dumb fuck, the jewish problem is millennia old, pol has nothing to do with it.

>> No.10790694

>>10790687
He’s not wrong

>> No.10790697

>>10790687
Awww, sweetie... are you finally noticing how much unchecked immigration damages a recipient culture? Now that you're no longer surrounded by people who agree with you and you're confronted with the new and the strange. Face it, /lit/ is experiencing multicultural paradise.

>> No.10790701

>>10790691
Go back. Fucking idiot.

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>>10790666
>666
nice try satan

>> No.10790705

>>10790388
That was a statement. Not a question.

>> No.10790708

>>10790681
i am hanging on to the last shred of normalcy that remains in my life before I start considering that things like this post could be true

>> No.10790728

>>10790708
It's 2018 bro, this is shit a ton of whites are now woke to. Not that it's all that surprising that you allow an alien desert tribe to control your institutions and they turn around and use that power to destroy you and your country, unless you've fallen for the liberal delusion that everyone is the same and shares the same interests, and nature isn't, you know, fucking nature.

>> No.10790737

>>10790728
I am probably more or less what you're calling 'woke' here. I have just never entirely bought the Jewish thing. I can see what Kevin MacDonald is saying for example, but an actual conscious and coordinated effort to destroy white countries I have never been able to accept. Just seems outlandish.

>> No.10790752

>>10789983
tri-armed double-dicked progeny sounds pretty cool tbqh

>> No.10790755

>>10790737
Because you're still allowing jewish ideas to frame the issue for you. It is a conscious, coordinated effort and jews do conspire with each other, but they are also inbred to the hilt and don't need to plan this out in smokey back rooms. Jews have been told for thousands of years that you are their enemy and slave and that they are destined to rule over you... all they are doing is acting in accordance with that encoded framework and pursuing their group interests. It's nature and a group strategy to maximize their group power and ability to obtain resources.

>> No.10790800

>only white person on bus to uni
>one of few white people in lecture
>lecturer is foreign and barely even speaking English
>foreign students can't speak enough English to order a coffee, but somehow get top marks in English heavy assignments
>rental and house prices are through the fucking roof because of foreign """investment"""
>companies literally advertise on their websites their "diversity" polices which encourages hiring of """minorities""" over white people
Don't say anything against it though, that's racist!

(and then we wonder why /pol/ exists)

>> No.10790819

>>10789915
We're not the type of white people who should be having kids anyways (in either case, less than 5% of the people on /lit/ could get a gf even if they tried)

>> No.10790833
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>>10789890
>capitalists

>> No.10790854

>>10790800
L O N D O N
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D
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>> No.10790858

>>10790833
yes. white capitalists dont give a shit about fellow whites, mi amigo. they prefer open borders to push down wages.

>> No.10790876

>>10790800
Where?

>> No.10790908

>>10790876
Bachelors Australia, Masters England

>> No.10790921

>>10790800
Maybe more of you should compete with the foreigners instead of dropping out and work with deano being bricklayers or retail assistant.

>> No.10790934

>>10790908
So you're an international too. Way too many of you in UK unis.

>> No.10790944

>>10790934
I'm a citizen by birth of both countries. To say all foreigners are of the same category and description is ridiculous.

An English raised person is obviously more similar to an Australian than someone raised completely Chinese is to an Australian

>> No.10790975

>>10790944
Why does similarity matter? These people are here to study not assimilate. This isn't immigration.

>> No.10790977

>>10790858
They only "prefer" it because quarterly profits, constant growth requirements, and cutthroat competition practices that decrease ethical decision making have been incentivized within our economies. These whites have been told they're working in their own interests when the only people in whose interests they're working is the international jew. This is why you hear people who are smarter than you saying left vs right has been replaced by jewish globalism vs nationalism in the various nations jews are destroying.

>> No.10790992

>>10790977
nah, people are just self-interested.

>> No.10791005

>>10790694

>references a /pol/ infographic with no sources at all

>>10790694

He is.

>>10790697

Multitard experience. I would prefer not to.

>> No.10791036

>>10790992
That statement doesn't mean anything. 'Self-interest' is something that is created and incentivized from the top down within societies.

>> No.10791076

>>10789867
This is the inside of the mind of a Communist.
Take note everyone, this is what happens to your brain on Socialism.

>> No.10791079

>>10791036
it emerges from the profit motive. the united states started because wealthy businessmen didnt want to pay taxes to a monarchy they felt wasnt representing them. are you going to argue the jews master planned that too?

get real, my man.

>> No.10791108

>>10789867
Why is everyone getting angry at this? He is just asking

>> No.10791127

>>10791108
Probably because it immediately outs him as some kind of Communist because they're the only ones who ever use the term reactionary. That and it would take what, 10 seconds? to google the author to find out any information he wants.

>> No.10791188

>>10791079
Except those incentives were completely different prior to the 1960s and the same white men who actually were in charge then had a set of values based on more than profit motive. What changed? Jews were allowed to obtain positions of power within our society and begin changing the incentives.

>> No.10791211

>>10791188
nope. the robber baron era had white capitalists shitting all over whites with reckless abandon.

you live in a fantasy land, friend.

>> No.10791214

>>10791108
>unironically asking this question
look at the other people posting.

>> No.10791226

>>10791211
You need to go to reddit, the scope of this discussion is beyond your intellectual capabilities.

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>>10789985
>gay people can't be reactionary
literal identity politics

>> No.10791245

>>10791226
lmao. there aint much to get. you think jews are omnipotent, omnipresent boogeymen responsible for everything.

>> No.10791248

>>10791188
>the same white men who actually were in charge then had a set of values based on more than profit motive
This is your brain on /pol/.

>> No.10791267

>>10791245
You're the one saying that, not me. But you're also the one pretending there is some phantom capital force corrupting society instead of the actual foreign group that running the institutions in our society. What you're saying makes no sense, and you don't belong on this board if you have this degree of ignorance about the jewish problem.

>> No.10791276

>>10791267
it aint capital its human nature. chinese capitalists are doing it to chinese workers. those in power have always exploited those without power.

and lol at your pretensions of intellectualism.

>> No.10791305

>>10791276
You're a good example of the kind of traps one gets caught in when they don't understand human biodiversity and try to connect the dots using some universalist model of 'human nature.'

>> No.10791308

>>10790934
Fuck off, you should have been letting more of the commonwealth nations (uk, aus, nz, canada) in over the EU in the first place.

>> No.10791314

Can this discussion go beyond omnipotent jews and conspiracy theories?

>> No.10791326

>>10791276
Yea except look at the way chinese treat other chinese compared to how chinese treat non Chinese.
In nz, where the problem is at the max, they've plundered the housing market that badly they've turned a formerly good country into one with the least affordable city in the world, surpassing Hong Kong, and locked an entire generation of the locals out of owning their own house, while buying the politicians off to prevent any change.
You're delusional if you think the Chinese do that to their own, they see foreign countries as resources to be sucked dry and we're not allowed to even name the problem we can all see because we get called racist and shut down when it's clear as day what needs to be done.

>> No.10791327

>>10789890
for jobs that don't exist?

>> No.10791334

>>10791314
Do you not think tribal people who are all third cousins of one another conspire, or are you just the low-information type who doesn't know how to use words correctly?

>> No.10791339

>>10791305
are the chinese being manipulated by the jews too or not?

dont retreat to your iq infographics.

>> No.10791344

>>10791326
rising asset prices are occurring all across the developed world. this is mostly a function of quantitative easing and income inequality.

>> No.10791374

>>10791344
No, it's occurring to an extreme degree in New Zealand, which is why I gave it as an example. It's absolutely insane, and it has far more to do with insidious foreign influences. People bitch about cities like New York and Vancouver and London, while you have China buying off a huge amount of Auckland so much so that a plain old house with nothing special about it now costs locals upwards of a million - not even living in the main city, not even a large house, purely an average house that cost maybe a tenth of that only last decade.
Finance dickwads concerned with their money just say, oh it's happening everywhere. So why should this country have suffered such an extreme case? Oh, wait, that's because it has a much more welcoming attitude to international money, and refused to discriminate against foreign buyers who wanted to bleed the local population dry while keeping the money in people of their own nationality.
Because people said what the problem was but nobody listened because the opposing side just cried "racist!" and that ended the argument. And look what happened. The only young homeowners now are Chinese.

>> No.10791375

>>10791339
The Chinese have been getting manipulated by the jews since the Sassoon family waged the opium wars against them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoon_family

Listen, people who don't have at least a cursory understanding of the jewish problem need to stop wading into discussions about it. It wastes the time of people who are less intellectually lazy and actually understand these issues.

>> No.10791389

>>10790975
The population of London is less than 50% native british and the Asian population of Sydney has been rapidly growing (its at 20% now)

They're 100% here to stay

>> No.10791407

>>10791389
>They're 100% here to stay
No they aren't. They can leave just as they came and they in time will. Jews let Muslims into Spain too, and the Spanish removed them both with a lot less resources than we have. Furthermore, if you're white you should not making fatalistic statements.

>> No.10791408

>>10791389
China has more than a billion people and struggles to feed and clothe them still. Australia has vast amounts of land not yet tapped.
This is intentional. They're buying off the government to make it a pro-china satellite so they can ease one of the biggest issues plaguing the current regime.

>> No.10791460

>>10791375
Where do you even start with this shit honestly

>> No.10791466

>>10791408
can confirm, melbourne cbd is literally 50% asians at any point of time

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>>10791460
Where people here have been telling you to start. It's understanding the nature of why they behave the way they do that will help everything else fall in line; accepting that jewish nature is very different from your own and whites are easily blinded to this because we didn't evolve around a manipulative desert tribe like jews.

>> No.10791479

>>10790975
>these people are here to study not to assimilate
bruh have you been to china

>> No.10791499

>>10791466
A lot of them are tourists so it's not QUITE as bad as it looks.

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I swear every time a books or article just slightly talks about a problem with somethings /pol/ frothes at the mouth about you hold it to a pedestal that it doesn't deserve

>> No.10791936

>tfw don't know what to believe anymore

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>>10791936
You can still trust us, goyim.

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>>10789915

>> No.10791994

>>10790800
better turn in your butterknives, you seen a dangerous fella

>> No.10792056
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This picture is why /pol/ will always lose.

Just look at the two of them. A beautiful confident articulate woman, stylishly dressed and easy in her own skin. She's totally at home in the modern globalised and multicultural world.
On the other side a unkempt graceless buffoon, ill-educated, unattractive, with nothing intelligent to say. He can't fit in, he can't adapt, he is literally useless to modern society.

Which side do you choose /lit/? I'm choosing to embrace the future.

>> No.10792090

Funny how the plight of every alt-righter eventually boils down to capitalism and its measures

>> No.10792092

Anybody else here going to the Football Lads Alliance march in Birmingham (53% white) later this month?

>> No.10792106

>>10792056
If I posted a picture of high up Nazis facing down gypsies I could make the exact same argument.
And maybe there's a real sickness with modern society we just don't want to admit.

>> No.10792119

>>10790074
A large base of unemployed can be beneficial to corporations.
>bring in a bunch of third-worlders willing to do labor for cheap
>just keep trucking them in: the more there are, the harder the competition, the less they'll accept

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>>10792092
No, but I hope you and the lads bust some Muslim invader skulls.

>> No.10792127

>>10790074
>>10789890
This is correct, except it's not future workers but consumers.

>> No.10792128

>>10792122
I'm going partly as research for my novel, which is about a young white male university graduate who ends up on the dole then joins the far-right. Also, based Tolerant Fellow.

>> No.10792133

>>10792056

Whether or not you're being ironic, you're honestly pretty close to the mark. /pol/ is a mash of grimy stowaways, paralyzed by motion and terrified of an evolutionary process that, by definition, isolates and alienates them. 'Multiculturalism' is no more the future than it has ever been, which is to say that it is and has always been inevitable. It's a trash ideology, invented by both sides to demonize the other, stumbling over elocuting the most basic fear and hope of the human condition: change.

>> No.10792137

>>10792128
Are you sympathetic to or a member of what you call the "far right"?

>> No.10792142

>>10792133
t. whig historian

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>>10792092
I'm going on the march. Because I want Britain to be about British

>> No.10792148

>>10792133
Opposition to multiculturalism is the only thing that is inevitable, dumbass. It is a post 60s social program promoted by seditious jews that is already starting to collapse since the transplants aren't capable of running first world institutions and cause myriad problems. It's never worked because people prefer to live around their own.

>> No.10792159

>>10792148
>people prefer to live around their own
>implying working class chav scum are 'my own'
I'd much rather live in London surrounded by hard working educated brown people than in some northern shithole surrounded by dumb inbred white scallies. I will always have more loyalty to my class than to my skin colour

>> No.10792163

>>10792148

>live around their own

Literally the entire history of society is the slow, grinding roll of 'multiculturalism', it just used to be more violent.

>> No.10792171

>>10792137
Depends what you mean by that term really. I am repulsed more than most by the National Front etc, i.e. apish skinheads in tracksuits wanting to take out their plebeian anger on anyone they can.

I support:

1. The mass-deportation of foreign-born criminals

2. Heavily restricting immigration for wider family members of settled immigrants

3. Heavily restricting immigration from communities with a relatively high birth-rate (e.g. Pakistanis)

4. Funding more intense policing of islamic extremism

5. Making sexual intercourse with first cousins illegal and deporting the 33% of Pakistani men who have had children (many deformed) with their first cousins

6. Establishing a percentage of the minimum number of White British citizens in any given town or city, with extreme measures (heavier taxation of large non-White British families in the area, deportation of second-generation immigrants who commit crime etc) on any city where this population falls below that threshold

7. Preventing any ethno-religious group with a "get-out clause" should they be oppressed or marginalized (e.g. Jews and Israel) from holding positions of power whereby they can advocate demographic replacement of the native White British population

8. Making illegal foreign donations to build mosques, e.g. Qatar funding the construction of mosques across Western Europe presently

9. Banning hijabs in stores and government buildings

10. Admitting refugees only from European countries and those of European heritage (e.g. the Boers), and defend this by pointing out that Saudi Arabia etc host zero refugees from the arab world

Probably more, but that would be a start tbqh

>> No.10792177

>>10792159
You think "brown people" in London are hard working? Look at the unemployment statistics (in fact, look at these statistics for Africans and Muslims in most Western cities).

They are something like 10% of London's population yet commit 68% of violent crime, 65% of gun crime, etc. Granted it's mostly intra-"communal" violence, but still.

>> No.10792180

>>10789867
He is sincerely a gay neocon, so he's not internally consistent with the necessities of capitalism he trumpets

>> No.10792185

>>10792159
Then I'm sure you will be elated when those brown people gang rape your eleven year old daughter. Fucking retard, you're a disgrace to your people and nation.

>>10792163
No, it's most definitely not. And the multiculturalism you're referring to was between closely related Europeans.

>> No.10792186

>>10792177
And yet London is a vibrant metropolis with world class cuisine and arts, while white mono-cultural provincial towns slide further into irrelevancy each day. The unpleasant fact is London is more productive and creative than the rest of the country put together, helped in no small part by all the different minority groups.

>> No.10792188

>>10792185

>being this unironically Eurocentric

I wish I could say I were impressed or surprised.

>> No.10792189

>>10792171
Good start and policies you can promote to normies, but ultimately they all have to go back, and the jews who let them in need to be run out permanently this time.

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>>10792186
>actually believing this
>being this much of a retarded cuck baizuo
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL west is so incredibly over LMAOOOOOOOOOOo

>> No.10792199

>>10792188
The Eurocentric will survive. Your genes will end with the Paki rape baby your daughter pushes out at thirteen because her dad was a cuck who didn't protect her and thought them Pakis were just fine because he didn't want others calling him racist.

>> No.10792205

>>10792199

Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.

>> No.10792207

>>10790681
>they force Europeans
>tax dollars
Spotted the amerimutt.

>> No.10792212

>>10792205
Not all change is good or irresistible.

>> No.10792213

>>10791936
>whoa this unfalsifiable conspiracy theory supported by poorly constructed info graphs is really shaking my world view. Dude, three jews said this thing! despite the fact that most american jews are completely atheistic they still somehow all follow the same world eating ideology.

>> No.10792214

>>10792205

Or if you want to hop back a few hundred years to, ah, other 'Europeans':

Omnia mutantur nihil interit.

>> No.10792219

>>10790074
>>10790681
Source on the unemployment.

>> No.10792223

>>10791936
You can still be against immigration and not believe in dumb conspiracy theories.

>> No.10792232

>>10792219
There are plenty of sources for that. Half these fucking shitskins are illiterate in their own languages. And then there's the Africans....

>> No.10792238

>>10792232
>There are plenty of sources for that.
Link one.

>> No.10792244

>>10792212

As is completely unsurprising, you only grasp half of even a single sentence because the latter half implies that the qualities by which you define yourself are not immutable.

>> No.10792245

https://www.thelocal.se/20160531/fewer-than-500-of-163000-asylum-seekers-found-jobs

https://www.rnw.org/archive/dutch-unemployment-higher-immigrants

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/mar/09/half-uk-young-black-men-unemployed

>> No.10792250

>>10792090
explain how the migration issues and the meaninglessness of the modern world would be solved if the communist government took care of everybody

>> No.10792257

>>10792186
You definitely aren't English. All my English friends and family know London as a shithole that you only go to if you want to get blown up or extorted

>> No.10792263

>>10792159
>I'd much rather live in London surrounded by hard working educated brown people
by educated you mean westernized, you only like the brown people that you can brainwash to throw away all their tradition. you wouldn't last a week if you had to actually live with brown people by their rules, i bet most of the "dumb inbred white scallies" would manage way better than you

>> No.10792266

Anyone who still truly believes in multiculturalism needs to take a visit to Newham or Luton.

>> No.10792270

>>10792257
>get blown up or extorted
i'd rather get that than acid attacked desu

>> No.10792271

>>10792244
Are you an idiot? I resist external change in large part because I don't want to be the object of forcible personal change.

>> No.10792273

>>10792245
The first link is about refugees, not immigrants.
The second one says the unemployment rate is at 11% which is pretty low.
The third one only talks about africans.
Don't you have some actual statistical study? Not that I want to be a dick but I'd prefer some broader demographic overview.

>> No.10792274

>>10792266
multiculturalism means islamism at this point let's be honest, multiculturalism just means opening a hole that the next tradition that actually believes in something will fill in 3, 2, 1...

>> No.10792279
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10792279

>>10792257
>Go to London! I guarantee you'll either be mugged or not appreciated. Catch the train to London, stopping at Rejection, Disappointment, Backstabbing Central and Shattered Dreams Parkway.

>> No.10792285

>>10792245

Sweden and its whole deal is a different mess altogether (and actually has nothing to do with the problems you're complaining about, but I doubt you care) but the UK black youths one is brazenly bullshit. It even admits *in the article* that it's specifically black youths not in school between the ages of 16 and 24. You're telling me unemployment rates of men in their late teens and early twenties who aren't in school is high? Holy shit, no way! My mind is blown.

>> No.10792301

>>10792274
multiculturalism just means servility to afroasiatic interlopers

>> No.10792307

>>10792301
that's true, i'd pay good money to be able to understand when chinks laugh at our retardation when they speak among themselves

>> No.10792316
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10792316

>>10788560
I heard him speak once. He sounds like a generic western liberal who is "brave" enough to criticize SJWs, but too scared to talk about taboo subjects like race.
Am I missing something?

>> No.10792317

>>10792274
VERY true, this.

>> No.10792320 [DELETED] 

>>10789905

No they don't. We (UK) literally haven't gone past the "opposing immigration is racist" phase

>> No.10792322

80% of births in England, I believe, are still white babies, but politically England is extremely jewed and in bad shape.

https://dailystormer.name/uk-equal-treatment-guide-tells-judges-to-treat-white-defendants-worse-than-colored-ones/

>> No.10792328

>>10792322

>dailystormer

ohboyherewego.jpg

>> No.10792337

>>10792307
They call it Bazui bazuo or something like that I think. Allowing yourself to be invaded is beyond retarded, but we know it's happening because jews are running our institutions. More of this parasite's doing than us. We've been morally brainwashed.

>> No.10792340

>>10792328
Best site on the web. What are you scared of a little truth, friend?

>> No.10792341

>>10792337
baizuo

>> No.10792350

>>10792340

I'd say your canned response failed to disappoint, but we'd both know I was lying.

>> No.10792409

>>10792316
love how retarded stormfaggots can't comprehend the possibility of someone not being racist so they reconfigure it into the person being scared of taboo subjects

>> No.10792461

>>10788560
Sorry I don't read trash by neoconservatives. I'm guessing he never explains why exactly all these countries suck so much that they have to flee them (perhaps some sort of imperialist ideology destabilized the region?) just whines about having to see Pakistanis and Syrians walking around in Derbyshire-by-the-Hill or whatever stupid fucking upper-crust British town he lives in. Going to be a fucking great day to see this nerd cry when Corbyn becomes PM in a year or too.

>> No.10792490

>>10792285
I'm not sure who you think "I" am, but I'm aware the context in each country is somewhat different, and I guarantee I know more about the Swedish situation than you.

As for blacks in London, the facts remain regardless of age group:

>"In October-December 2017, the unemployment rate was 4.1% for the White ethnic group and 8.0% for people from a
BAME background."

And this is the case in Amsterdam, in Berlin, in Paris, in Stockholm and elsewhere. Wherever these people have been allowed to settle en masse, what has followed is increased gun crime, increased unemployment, increased gang rapes, increased social deprivation etc.

Now it must be said that not all non-whites are the same in this respect. Sikhs are alright. And Muslims in Britain for example are more likely to find a job, marry and raise many kids *in their community*. But again, with an increased Muslim population there comes the sudden *gasp* shocking *gasp* transformation of this loveable, cute, oppressed exotic minority into a vicious, tribal voting bloc as we've seen with the Turks in the Netherlands, now with the Muslims in Scandinavia forming their own Muslim-orientated parties. Unfortunately in Britain they can just vote Labour and know Corbyn et al will grovel at their feet in return for secure votes.

The fundamental question is this:

If you woke up tomorrow and 50% of your town's architecture had changes from being traditionally gothic, or georgian, etc and instead resembled the types of buildings etc of the middle east and Africa, would you give a shit or not?

If not, then go about your life.

If so, then congratulations, you give a shit about your heritage.

>> No.10792494

>>10790666
I'd phrase it more like it might not be the worst thing.

Really changed my mind on the whole subject of islamisation desu.

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10792498

Why be racist when you could just be quiet?

>> No.10792507

>>10792273
Refugees are largely economic migrants, dumbass. Grow up.

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10792536

>europe gets islamised
>literature and philosophy students all enrol in madrassas and become Islamic scholars
>/lit/ finally highly valued and influential in society
>STEMfags eternally BTFO and beheaded for apostasy/euphoria

the future is bright, my friends

>> No.10792566

>>10792213
Not same anon but it's quite clear that they refer to an elite group, not an entire ethnicity

>> No.10792584

>>10792409
Are you a real person?

>> No.10792588

>>10792461
Bait

>> No.10792595

>>10789905
Most don't. You go on question time and mention immigration and everyone boos. Then someone replies with 'b-b-b-but immigration has given us better food and a better culture! Britain is an immigrant nation!!!'
Modern politcial discussion is a joke.

>> No.10792602

So is the idea just to bring in a bunch of mindless consumers or what?

>> No.10792604

It's weird how the supposed master race is constantly scared shitless by Middle Eastern people, who have barely any power after decades of having their countries facefucked by US foreign policy. The birthrate shit doesn't make sense seeing as they are trending downwards to 2 kids (as having kids is too fucking expensive even in social democratic states). The religious conversion shit doesn't make sense because every country is becoming less religious. My only conclusion is that it's a bunch of bored white teenagers and extremely elderly Boomers who post this dumb shit because they find warfare and violence to be pleasing since they aren't going to be the ones who have to fight and they want an easy target.

>> No.10792607

>>10792507
No they aren't.

>> No.10792608

>>10792604
>The religious conversion shit doesn't make sense because every country is becoming less religious
this is a false meme, not sure who invented it

>> No.10792613

>>10792588
Sorry dude Jezza's gonna win and make the UK good.

>> No.10792614

>>10792604
religious people (muslims) have more kids

>> No.10792618

>>10792602
The idea is to destroy the historic nations of the west, that's why it's happening everywhere. It's a jewish operation from top to bottom. Jews hate us, which is why allowing them to have power was a big mistake.

>> No.10792622

>>10792250
Tight border policies protecting the working man and the future of his career and offspring, regarding the "meaninglessness of the modern world" (I guess that sounded deep in your mind?) that can largely be attributed to mindless consumerism and hedonism

Alt-righters secretly love the things they despise, the isolationism of communism and the traditional values of saudi arabia

>> No.10792631

>>10792602
Mostly, yes. In addition to that is the idea of "economic growth", which is really a ponzi scheme that needs an endless increase of population.
But economy is not the only motivation.
Some people just want to see the world burn, perhaps because they're resentful and bored.
And then you have people are genuinely ignorant and think that the whole world will just come together and sing kumbaya. We'll all live in peace and harmony once there are no countries/nations/races anymore.

>> No.10792634

>>10792618
I'm sure the capitalist class is very afraid of alt-right gamers.

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10792637

Sure love this literary discussion we're having yes

>> No.10792641

>>10792602
Also to destroy solidarity and social cohesion, which makes a people easier to rule.

>> No.10792648

It's really funny how Nazis bitch about low birth rates for white people but everytime you suggest a fix for it that's not just posting furiously at a 20-something white woman posting pictures of her cat on Twitter to have a white child, (such as increasing wages, making colleges free, giving universal healthcare, and so on) so that people can actually afford to raise a kid, they bitch at you for being anti-capitalist. Biggest cucks on the planet.

>> No.10792652

>>10789867
kill yourself

>> No.10792662

>>10792641
So capitalism then. You really haven't proven to me that this isn't just a problem with the economic and political system we have had for a few centuries now. If you had a magic wand that could wish away all the Jews in this world or the elders of Zion or whatever the fuck it is and replace them with white people, how would things be any better? History has shown that the vast majority of white capitalists didn't give a single shit about their underlings.

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>>10792648
we're nazbol you disgusting sionista

we're all for better working conditions, paternal leave and daycare

>> No.10792670

>>10792648
They might bitch at you because you're wrong.
>(such as increasing wages, making colleges free, giving universal healthcare, and so on) so that people can actually afford to raise a kid
There is no evidence that those things would increase birth rate. In fact, prosperity usually means lower birth rate, as has been evident for the last centuries in the West and elsewhere.

Also, I'm not sure "Nazis" really need or want a higher birth rate anyway. They seem more concerned with keeping non-whites out of their countries.

>> No.10792679

>>10789867
>he cares about the mass demographic shift occurring in Europe, therefore he must be a goose-walking German nationalist from the 1930s!

Come on, at least think of some new insults.

>> No.10792697

>>10790708
Put it this way, those sorts of views were the norm up until very recently in European history.

>> No.10792717

>>10792090
Why is that funny? One of the reasons that the alt-right is a thing is because of mainstream conservatism's commitment to muh markets and not much else. The alt-right has been skeptical of capitalism since day one. You're probably thinking of those "new-right" idiots who are basically just edgy libertarians.

>> No.10792735

>>10792717
You say that and yet every single candidate the alt-right has proposed has been a fervent capitalist, with their main guy being the avatar of American capitalism in all its chintzy and disgusting glory. Where's the candidates who are all for expanding the rights of the working class but also cross the road to avoid black people?

>> No.10792744

>>10792717
Not him but I can see why it's very ironic

>The alt-right has been skeptical of capitalism since day one.

You're right. Millenial Republicans are less pro-business than boomer Republicans. Thing is, alt-righters subscribe to the personality politics of Trump, who's biggest accomplishment is a typical GOP supply side economics tax bill. They've wed themselves to Republicans who are more interested in neoliberal deregulation of the economy and gutting of the public sector, which only contributes to the problems of Middle America. And the most ironic thing is that this is under the guise that society's ills are caused by undercover "Marxists," which leads to their knee jerk labeling of "commie" to anyone who criticizes capitalism.

>> No.10792760

>>10792735
>Where's the candidates who are all for expanding the rights of the working class

They are literally nowhere... that's why you can criticize alt-right support for Republicans all day long but it will keep happening. Both the Democrats and Republicans have shifted to the right, and now the Dems have no pro-working class economic message so they have to fall back on culture wars and identity politics. Leading us to where we are today. The Republicans are being only smart by exploiting white identity in response, which captures the working class by identity since they don't have a genuine economic advocate anymore.

>> No.10792782

i think the current waves of immigrants will be subsumed into western culture, just like the italians, irish, and polish were. all it takes is a few generations- the media, public schools, etc are a powerful force. nothing stopping little ahmed from signning up for twitter and laughing at the memes all the other young people are laughing at. i met a bunch of turks in germany and they were all dressed like young people, talking about fucking fred durst lol. some of you think we will be destroyed- i think they will be.

>> No.10792867

>>10792735
>>10792744
>Trump/GOP = alt-right
Why don't you even try to keep up? And no, watching CNN news doesn't cut it.

>> No.10792877

>>10789874
>>10790681
>>10790691
>>10790728
>>10790755
>>10791076
>>10791127
>>10791188
>>10791334
>>10791375
>>10791955
>>10792148
>>10792185
>>10792196
>>10792199
>>10792232
>>10792274
>>10792322
>>10792507
>>10792618

Sometimes I feel like you /pol/ cunts are doing to my board what you seem to endlessly complain about in your inane diatribes about European immigration. Fuck off. Thanks.

>> No.10792974

>>10792219
>>10792238
Look at Swedish statistics for example, takes 8 years for 50% to get some sort of work, many of which are "jobs" state subsidises, after 16 years the number is 65%. The vast majority of all social benefits go to immigrants, the employment rate of Swedes is something like 85%, under 50% for immigrants and so on. The statistics are clear.

For example, under 10% of those who immigrate here hold anything higher than a high school diploma, so less than 10% got a college degree.

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>>10789890
Combination of different groups with different motives, combining towards the goal of mass immigration. I don't believe that there is just 1 thing at play here, its too simplistic an answer for such a complex thing such as democracy.
Progressives feel guilty and want to play white saviour, neocons want cheap labour. I think those are the 2 main groups, but there are a variety of interconnected issues and other groups, such as with Brexit. For example, corporations want to remain because London is a good place to do business because the UK is so great and they get access to the EU market, they only care about looking progressive as far as it gives them good PR.

>> No.10793026

>>10792877
So you recognise the issue with mass immigration?

>> No.10793031

>>10792877
>you /pol/ cunts are doing to my board
more like to the world, you are going to enjoy the next 10 years

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>>10792490
>eh oop
fails GCSEs
>so what yer on about like
downs pint of carling in flat roofed pub
>yer sayin at the end o the day
feeds pitbull
>it's like us lot
hits pregnant girlfriend
>like we woz georgians or some shit

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>all the n*zis ITT
Where's Bomber Harris when you need him

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10793176

>mfw all the poorthener dole scum in this thread
Fucking make something of yourselves you fucking layabouts. Maybe that way you won't get outperformed and outcompeted by Mr Meghoma straight off the fucking boat from Lagos. It's a jungle bitches and you are at the bottom of the food chain

>> No.10793235

>>10793133
>>10793146
>>10793176
give it a rest angl*id scum

>> No.10793259

>>10792127

Both are the same, really. Any actual consumerism requires money coming in via work. Good post, though.

>> No.10793262

>>10790800
Vancouver?

>> No.10793324
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10793324

Robert E. Howard could immediately grasp what is going on in Europe, were he alive today. Civilizations rise and fall, once-conquering peoples become accostumed to the ways of luxury, grow soft and are conquered too. This has happened hundreds of time, why do modern Westerners think they are exempt to the laws of history? Africa will conquer Europe, its inevitable. Africa is young, dynamic and driven by a Faustian ethos, Europe is old, lethargic and hedonist. But it won't be a return to the stone age, Africans will absorb elements of European culture, they will probably even keep the current political divisions so in the 22th century Germany, France and Italy will be 100% black nations trading with China, and then the Africans will grow soft too and be conquered too. By whom, I don't know, I guess Southeast Asians or Latin Americans.

>> No.10793349

>>10793324
turkey will conquer rome 1000s years after taking constantinople, europe has already lost a lot of territory, turkey used to be european, north african used to be european

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10793353

>>10793324
>I saw a brown person on the bus
>naturally this means the end of civilization as we now it

>> No.10793361

>>10793353
wait, u have white people on ur buses? i love how the pro-immigration people always live in these super white areas lol

>> No.10793367

>>10788560
>Another tryhard thread
Oh, please.

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10793371

>>10793349
4 out of 5 Christian patriarchies are under non-Christian rule. Antioch, Constantinople and Alexandria are under Muslim rule, Jerusalem under Jews. But I don't think it will be Turks who will take Rome. Turks themselves are a decaying people. Kurds will take over Constantinople first than Turks can take Rome.

It's Africans who are on the rise. They will take over Europe, probably North America and the Middle East too

>> No.10793377

>>10793371
africans are too retarded and corrupt, it's just not gonna happen, and kurds? turkey probably gives birth to as many turks every year as the entire kurd population

>> No.10793407

>>10793367
>>10793176
>>10792637
>>10792877
>>10793353
>>10792461
>>10792090
>>10791508


Whats with the smug attitude from you people?
Why is the cocky 'know it all' attitude from left wingers so prevalent?

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10793412

Why are right wingers so much better at analyzing the political situation?

BTW, here's a summary+comment on the book:
https://www.counter-currents.com/2018/02/populism-beyond-left-and-right/

>> No.10793446

>>10793412
reminder that de Benoist voted for a literal communist in the last french elections

>> No.10793458

>>10793446
Communism is objectively more right-wing than liberalism.

>> No.10793463

>>10793458
the state of lit

>> No.10793493

>>10792641
This doesn't make sense. Happier people are easier to rule.

>> No.10793523

>>10793407
When you're arguing with a bunch of morons who believe in an ancient Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white race, it's hard not to sound like a smug know-it-all.
Most of us only come in these threads for the shits and giggles of triggering pasty losers.

>> No.10793541

>>10793133
All of those scallies would be black or pakistani 'roadmen' now

>> No.10793548

>>10793523
>all those that don't want to be ethnically replaced are dumb haha xddd

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10793562

>>10793133
>implying proles didnt exist then

>> No.10793568

>>10793446
Richard Spencer said he kinda likes Bernie Sanders and he's still considered extreme right wing.

>> No.10793576

>>10793568
nazbol

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10793581

>>10793548
>implying anyone is getting ethnically replaced
Don't worry anon, nobody's stopping you drinking your bad fizzy lager in your shitty estate pub. You can support the Ingerland all you like (lets hope 'our boys' do well in Russia). Stop getting butthurt because a brown gentleman has a better car and a prettier girlfriend than you.

>> No.10793586

>>10793568
Richard Spenser might be the only non moronic guy on the alt right. He even manages to be reasonable about fags.

>> No.10793595

>>10793586
Well, there's also Greg Johnson and a few others, but yeah.

>> No.10793599

>>10793523
I'm >>10793324

and I didn't mention any Jews.

There is no Jewish conspiracy to undermine Europe, no more than Jews undermine Sumeria before it was conquered by Akkadians, Babylon before it was conquered by Kassites, India before it was conquered by the Turks or China before it was conquered by the Mongols.

Again, it is the natural flow of civilizations, there is no judgement of value about perceiving it.

>> No.10793601

>>10793581
Right yeah its bait. Are you even from England?

>> No.10793607

>>10793581
Le uneducated brexit voters!!!!!!

>> No.10793614

>>10793599
>it is the natural flow of civilizations,
Yeah mass immigration aided by the government is natural

>> No.10793636

The level of denial in this thread is staggering. Visit East London if you don't believe it.

>> No.10793641

>>10793371
>It's Africans who are on the rise. They will take over Europe, probably North America and the Middle East too
Please don't make me laugh. They can't even control their own countries. Chinese investment in Africa is what will improve it.

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10793643

>>10793601
>Are you even from England?
Yes. I'm one of that liberal metropolitan elite you were told about. Making good bank with a nice flat in zone 2. One of the best things about the anonymity of 4chan is I can tell you provincial fuckwits what we actually think of you.
You are nothing to us. We wouldn't give a fuck if all your shitty provincial towns were completely full of pakistanis and nigerians. Why would we care? We no have solidarity with you on national or racial lines. I feel more loyalty to the Ghanaian chick who cleans my house than to some pricks in Swindon who are butthurt about being out hustled by a bunch of immigrants who only learned english a week ago. In a way I hope you are replaced. At least then we wouldn't have to deal with your pasty whining faces. Immigrants are just so much better at customer service than white british.
>>10793636
I visit East London all the time. I prefer it to some chav town like Rainham

>> No.10793646

>>10793643
Ok.

>> No.10793650

>>10793643
But why?

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10793655

>>10793643
>t.

>> No.10793657

>>10793650
because whites don't have racial solidarity the same way jews or asians do, whites are like "the other aryans" aka hindus in that they believe that stratification of class is natural and the working class provincials are utterly contemptible scum, much like a brahmin no doubt views an untouchable

>> No.10793665

>>10793657
Are you >>10793643
?

>> No.10793670

>>10793643
You may consider yourself different from the provincial fuckwits, the Chavs, but to your Ghanaian cleaner, you are all white scum, and once they have enough political, cultural, social and military power, they will kill in the same dump as those pricks from Swindon.

>> No.10793671

>>10793657
>because whites don't have racial solidarity
You must live in London then. Its far different where I'm from

>> No.10793672

>>10788560

It was OK. Started off strong, meandred a lot in the middle, concluding chapters were fine.

>> No.10793677

>>10793523
>this thing is clearly not to my or fellow citizens' benefit
>but hey, it has happened before and so it's obviously natural
>then i guess it is just bound to happen and i can't do shit about it
>hell, if i can even inflate my ego by being an obnoxious smug fuck in the process, even better!
>come rape my butt achmed, you deserve it ;P

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10793681

>>10793657
And see how turned out for India. Almost a thousand years of foreign political domination and hundreds of millions dead between massacres and famines.

>> No.10793684

>>10793681
oh i'm not saying it's a particularly good thing, it is what it is

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10793693

>>10793657
>much like a brahmin no doubt views an untouchable
untouchables are not supposed to be part of society, they are migrants or war slaves that didn't get killed because of pity, but they aren't supposed to be part of traditional society at all

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10793696

>>10793670
>>10793657
>>10793677

Dudes you don't even fucking understand the game you are playing. This isn't a racial thing, it's a class war.
The opera isn't going anywhere, the theatre will still be subsidised (incidentally isn't it funny that you never see the kind of people who bleat about 'muh culture' at an art gallery or a new play).
The middle class gets all the benefits of immigration (cheap cleaners and some lovely restaurants), but none of the ill-effects. We don't live in crime-ridden areas, and our jobs are too difficult for unskilled immigrants to take them. Ahmed won't be raping our daughters, as we live well away from him.

>> No.10793703

>>10793696
>We don't live in crime-ridden areas, and our jobs are too difficult for unskilled immigrants to take them
that won't matter once muslims are a big enough voting block and they can finally start voting to the UK version of Erdogan instead of voting Labor for the gibs

>> No.10793710

>>10793696
We shall see. I believe that once non-whites have the numbers they can shift democratic politcs in a way that the liberal middle-class won't like. Imagine an European Hugo Chávez, using populist resentment to drive ethnic voters towards redistributive socialism, for example. There is a lot of groundworking being done for this right now at universities and schools.

>> No.10793711

>>10793643
kek

>> No.10793719

>>10793703
>implying that's happening anytime soon

>> No.10793724

>>10793719
the pressure is building up, they will be your little pets serving you ethnic food and cleaning your apartment until one day they won't be anymore

>> No.10793729

>>10793719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Lznha9EQ0

>> No.10793731

>>10793719
i guess you are right, maybe Corbyn will win first and ruin the economy so badly that no migrants will want to come anymore before we get there

>> No.10793738

>>10793719
Give it a few decades. If you are in your 20s and 30s, it will likely happen in your lifetime.

>>10793703
I don't think the non-white voting block will go for Islamic politics. This is a point I disagree with other rightists. I believe Western liberal progressivism has a huge corrosive effect on religion, even Islam. There won't be an UK version of Erdogan, but something worse, an UK version of Hugo Chávez or Juan Perón.

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>>10793729

>> No.10793741

>>10793710
>>10793703

We already had redistributive socialism before Thatcher. The mistake your're making is assuming the middle class is or will remain all white. The more intelligent immigrants are already being cherrypicked off and accepted into the fold (eg Chuka or the Chakribati woman). The establishment has already begun the process of assimilating the revolutionary potential of minority groups
It doesn't matter how big the ethnic minority vote gets as they'll still get cucked out of any meaningful choice the same was the white working class does. The oligarchy might have a few brown faces in it though.
Marxism or anti-capitalism would help you lot much more than this childish race based stuff, but you do you I guess.

>> No.10793749

>>10793719
what's to stop latinos from electing an hispanic trump in the future? they always vote for idiots like hugo chavez or any other number of strongmen, the liberal media is having a fit about poor whites voting for a "demagogue" in trump, but think for a minute what if trump is hispanic? how will the press stop THAT scenario? they've invested 30 years into putting mexicans and illegal aliens on a pedestal, once they're finally a majority and can follow their natural instincts to vote for a socialist strongman, what is the press going to do? try to say latinos aren't "wise" suddenly?

>> No.10793750

>>10793696
I live in Norway and I'm doing a masters in engineering, with our pension fund and high-as-fuck taxes, when I'm 55 I'll be working half the week to support people i don't like and have nothing in common with. That's if some lefty populist minority dickhead does not get into power and distribute the the pension fund equally before that.

A fucking maid is not a fair trade off for that.

>> No.10793758

>>10793738
well, it happened in Lebanon, "The Paris of the Middle East", we will see what will happen here, if the degenerates get islamized or islam gets degenerate.

anyway in the end something always happens, i don't understand the people that say that nothing ever happens

>> No.10793769

>>10793741
exactly, the republican party is way ahead in this stuff as they already have more hispanic and hindu members at the national level than the democrats, the democrats trot out the same old-wave immigrant groups like pelosi or kenndy, meanwhile the repubs got rubio, cruz, jindal and haley, although there is a definite possibility a chavez style strongman could rise the repubs are working as hard as they can to coopt minority groups into identifying with the capitalist ruling class than the dems who stoke resentment for votes

>> No.10793774

>>10793741
>The mistake your're making is assuming the middle class is or will remain all white. The more intelligent immigrants are already being cherrypicked off and accepted into the fold (eg Chuka or the Chakribati woman).
your mistake is thinking that middle class migrants will stop thinking in ethnic lines once they get rich, that happens sometimes when a minority gets absorbed into a majority, but it hardly happens as a law of nature and they may easily keep maneuvering in ethnic lines after getting more money

cherry picking from westernized non-white university students is hardly a representative number, even more now that universities are starting to be seen as a meme and a strong community is much more important to advance in life

>> No.10793778

>>10793758
something similar happened in egypt, when egypt still had a monarchy cairo was considered glamorous, remember seeing lists of world cities like "london, paris, cairo, tokyo" in early 20th century media, then the populist revolution happened and a chavez style nationalist took over, and then the muslims were given free reign to terrorize, and now egypt is a piece of shit

>> No.10793781

>>10793769
>chavez style strongman
lol get fucked retard every republican is a chavez style strongman except they're kicking the people you hate (the poor, the nonwhite, gays etc)

>> No.10793784

>>10793774
>now that universities are starting to be seen as a meme
maybe in your little echo chamber

>> No.10793787

>>10793741
>Chuka Umunna
>Igbo
>Shami Chakrabarti
>Bengali Brahmin (her surname literally means "ruler of the country")

Yes, of course they assimilate, these are the good ones.

Good luck assimilating dozens of millions of Fulanis, Wolofs and Somalis, though.

>> No.10793789

>>10793781
oh sweet innocent child, you have seen nothing and have barely traveled the world, expect to enjoy some reality checks in the next 20 years

>> No.10793790

>>10793781
yet when i go to the store i can still buy food and toilet paper so i guess not quite

>> No.10793794

>>10793781
when the republicans start having gangs machine-gunning political dissidents on the street then we can speak

>> No.10793797

>>10793790
yes, because venezuela isn't big enough or strong enough to shake down other countries when it needs to

>> No.10793801

>>10793778
European liberals are deluled when they think that what happened in Beirut, Algiers and Alexandria (and Caracas or Havana, for that matter) can't happen in Paris, London or Berlin.

>> No.10793803

>>10793794
usually the fbi does that, who just happen to be the democrats bff

>> No.10793804

>>10793797
if you are competent you should still be able to produce a bit of ass paper and food for people to eat

>> No.10793805

>The assimilation meme
This doesn't happen, and I say this as a leftist. Usually culture tends to be transmitted from parents to proles. Why do you think we're always talking about "multiculturalism"? Because cultures don't change that easily.

>> No.10793807

>>10793797
oh i didn't realize all the food america exports is actually "shaken down" from other countries, good to know

>> No.10793812

>>10793787
>>10793774
What happened in USA is the more intelligent jews, Italians, Irish, blacks etc were co-opted into the WASP establishment, and the rest of the working classes of all hues continued to be shafted.
These race baiting politics aren't effective now, I think that's clear. They will be even less effective in the future as minorities get more numerous.
I've already mentioned Marxism as a possible route for you guys to improve your lives, but you go ahead and stick to what you know. Maybe one day white nationalism will be a major electoral force.

>> No.10793814

>>10793801
lol they're always "it could happen here!" about fascism, but they never stop to think about other undesirable political outcomes that are much more likely

>> No.10793818

>>10792782
In England we have already had several generations of Muslims. The youngest generation is more extreme in their Muslim views than their parents and there country has entire towns and prisons that are run by Muslim criminal gangs that distribute drugs, turn English women (and children) into prostitutes, and so forth. And this isn't unique to England.

>> No.10793821

>>10793812
this is too retarded to even respond

>> No.10793823

>>10793807
where do you think subsidies for that same food come from

>> No.10793824

>>10793805
Assimilation does happen, but only towards a dominant culture. Greeks, Italians and Slavs managed to assmilate into White American culture because that culture was dominant.

Nowadays the dominant culture is black. So you can't expect immigrants to assimilate into white bourgeois culture anymore. And to make things worse, the dominant black culture is African-American, with all its resentment and revanchism. That's why you see BLM in the United Kingdom for example. Expects things to get worse when the dozens of millions of Africans start arriving and their children assimilate into American gang culture.

>> No.10793830

>>10793824
and who made black culture "hip"? we cannot say can we

>> No.10793833

>>10793814
it's a funny hidden way of be progressive and still racist: only our right wingers are competent enough to be scary, when brown people play the rightwinger game it's just cute and they are too incompetent to be taken seriously

>> No.10793834

>>10793823
from tax payers?

>> No.10793836

>>10793812
Where has Marxism ever improved society to the same extent that capitalism has? Name one country based on Marxism principles that is as good as Norway or Denmark.

>> No.10793838

>>10793812
you're so fucking stupid. wipepo is the adhesive that is keeping these minorities from slaughtering each other. when their influence is lost you'll have full scale civil war.
btw no, you're not going to make "middle-class" muslims (as if that meant anything) appreciate the company of jews. you're not that clever

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>>10793830
You want me to say "the Jews", but I believe Black culture, from Jazz to hip hop, is genuinely good. It's their redeeming feature.

>> No.10793845

>>10793834
and where does the taxpayers' money come from? business and trade, done with foreign countries.

>> No.10793849

>>10793845
you can literally print money from paper

>> No.10793851

>>10793836
name one country that is as whiter than norway or denmark? everyone says americans should be more like european countries, but then insist we should import more non-europeans

>> No.10793852

>>10793849
cool, you're actually retarded

>> No.10793856

>>10793845
wait so are you trying to say you're opposed to free trade? so you agree with trump voters? have u thought this through? you're tying yourself in a knot

>> No.10793861

>>10793851
Uruguay.

>> No.10793864

>>10793861
>Uruguay
i work with tons of immigrants from latin america and the middle east, never met one person from uruguay, weird

>> No.10793866

>>10793856
it's almost like you're a simpleton who can only think in trump not-trump terms

>> No.10793868

Basically, if you continue to let this happen and if you continue to purposely cower away from what is happening then as soon as an aggressive minority group becomes a majority - for example Muslims - then its over. However there would be civil war when the reach about 20 percent or so.

>> No.10793869

>>10793836
Okay you want to improve countries economically? I thought you were sick of brown people. Under capitalism immigration will never be stopped or halted. The logic is inexorable, the bottom line will always call for more immigration, more globalism and less localism. The nation state will wither away, borders will wither away and all that will remain will be consumers and corporations. I don't care about it, but if you want to preserve your heritage and the ethnic make up of your society you badly need an alternative to capitalism.

>you're not going to make "middle-class" muslims (as if that meant anything) appreciate the company of jews. you're not that clever
You obviously don't work in financial services.

>> No.10793870

>>10793866
it's almost like you're a simpleton who can't understand that trump is to the left of the democrats

>> No.10793871

>>10793864
they're a liberal social democracy
and weed is legal

>> No.10793875

>>10793842
>Jazz to hip hop, is genuinely good
No, it isn't.

>> No.10793878

>>10793493
A socially cohesive society is easier to rule if you actually plan on giving them things they want, not if you plan to take away what they care about.

>> No.10793884

>>10793869
it's funny how 100 years ago the marxist line was that with capitalism imperialism will never be stopped or halted, then 50 years later the european empires fell apart after the world wars, now the marxist line is that under capitalism immigration will never be stopped, i wonder what the marxist line will be 100 years from now

>> No.10793886

>>10793870
like I said - you're a simpleton, easily fooled by demagogues

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>>10793884
>imperialism will never be stopped or halted, then 50 years later the european empires fell apart after the world wars
>imperialism is when you're a literal empire

>> No.10793895

>>10793871
so basically u have a country of 90% europeans and it's like a european country? interesting...

meanwhile across the border in brazil you have rampant inequality, corruption, poverty, and literally slavery.

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>>10793026
The issue with "mass immigration" is never what national conservatives claim it to be. The real issue is whether those in charge have the power to maintain order even with an increased amount of immigrants. By complaining that mass immigration is "ruining X nation," those in charge are essentially admitting to being too weak to handle the nation's growth. From there starts the blame game, various things get blamed, just like when bratty children divert responsibility when being censured by an adult.

Consider looking at the positives of modern society, then its problems, and how to move forward without regressing to an earlier state. The solution that achieves that is the proper solution. Everything else is bratty whining.

>> No.10793905

>>10793892
yes, yes, if we can just redefine empire to mean "trading partners" we can keep the marx farce going!

>> No.10793910

>>10792662
Where did you get the whole Jew thing from?

Do you even realise you're making up strawmen as you go?

>> No.10793914

>>10793824
>Greeks, Italians and Slavs managed to assmilate into White American culture because that culture was dominant.
No, they assimilated because
A. The culture weren't that different.
B. The "racial" aspect of the thing was much less prominent. Both Italians and Americans are white and even if there are differences they're minimal.
C. The immigration stopped after a while, allowing for those groups to be assimilated.
t. grandgrandparents emigrated to the USA from Sardinia.

The thing about current immigration is that there is no racial affinity so the immigrants are always going to be distinct from the native population on the basis of race (I've read a couple of studies that suggest that these kind of societies tend to structure themselves towards racial/ethnic lines, basically it causes people of each ethnicity to vote for the party that is perceived as their ally regardless of if said party aligns with their political beliefs) hence assimilation not happening.

>> No.10793915

>>10793886
so you're opposed to free trade but oppose trump? ok, just keep waiting for the democrats to get around to inequality, i'm sure after the fights of gun rights, dreamers, tranny bathrooms and gay cakes they will eventually address the economic plight of the working class.... calls others simpleton

>> No.10793921

>>10793914
>italians

also worth noting the places italians immigrated to had massive corruption and organized crime problems that are only finally now getting under control after a 100 years

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>>10793905
>invades countries, destabilizes regions, undermines peace everywhere it can
>hurr durr trading partners

>> No.10793933

>>10793900
>By complaining that mass immigration is "ruining X nation," those in charge are essentially admitting to being too weak to handle the nation's growth.
Thats growth but it's growth by a changing ethnicity. Which of course is hard to handle. As is shown in most european countries

>> No.10793942

>>10793915
yes, you're a simpleton because you think people are single-issue voters who don't look at the greater context of a politician/party's platform
trump being anti free trade doesn't mean shit when he's ultra capitalist the same way it doesn't mean shit that he said "everybody's gonna have healthcare" when in fact he's trying to do the exact opposite - strip HC away from people
but a simpleton doesn't see that

>> No.10793950

>>10790858
This but unironically.
It's white globalists who are ruining it for the white lower classes.

>> No.10793998

>>10793942
the greater context is trump is the most far left president since fdr, deal with brainlet

>> No.10794000

>>10793931
wow nice conspiracy theories freak, take it to /pol/, oh wait u were talking about whites not jews, well then carry on my woke friend!

>> No.10794009

>>10793998
yes, the guy who's made the most right wing tax bill in the last 100 or so years, the guy deregulating fucking water stream cleanliness, is the most far left president since fdr
nixon was more left than trump

>> No.10794014

>>10794000
>hehe got him, liberals are the real racists!
log off, retard

>> No.10794037

the fear of immigrants destroying culture has the implicit admission of their own culture being fleeting and vapid, thus the need of overbearing protection.

>> No.10794045

>>10793023
Best answer. Both progressivism and capitalism are at fault.

>> No.10794053

>>10794009
dude, the american corporate tax was completely out of wack with the rest of the world which is why corporations like apple had to keep 100s of billions stashed in shitty places like ireland because if the repatriated it they wouldn't have been destroyed by taxes, sorry but that needed to be done, and the steel tarrifs needed to be done too, the eu and china always have a million little death by a thousand cuts tarrifs and trade barriers always figuring the american presidents would always be too cucked to do anything, but suddenly we have a president interested in doing what is in the interests of the country not the donors, also obamacare was fucking horrible shit, but since you're either a manchild on your parents plan or some government bureaucrat with a job for life you never had to experience the hell of obamacare, that also needed to be fixed, and don't forget obamacare was mitt romney's healthcare plan, obama passed it in a cold political move to cut the legs out from romneys' campaign, not to help the american people

>> No.10794063

>>10793262
This was my first thought. Sounds exactly like Vancouver.

>> No.10794069

>>10794014
>poverty in the third world is all the result of a white conspiracy

u sound insane, seek help

>> No.10794073

>>10790800
>companies literally advertise on their websites their "diversity" polices which encourages hiring of """minorities""" over white people
I've been hired by equal opportunity employers and I'm white. Businesses are most interested in competent people because they just want to make money. If you're having trouble getting a job, then get your shit together and study harder.

>> No.10794087

>>10790800
what does it feel being a mediocre piece of shit, being out-performed by virtually everyone around you

>> No.10794090

>>10794053
1. the tax bill is the most pro-rich bill in the last 100-or-so years. your arguments don't mean shit when confronted with that simple fact. he is blowing a hole in the budget that he intends to fill by cutting medicare, medicaid and various other stuff. this is "the most leftwing pres since fdr".
2. obamacare. is shit, but it is disgusting to see you denigrate it when we both know trump and the republicans don't want to fix it. they want to throw it all to the free market, like it was before obama. which means tens of millions people without insurance and even those with ins. will be subject to predatory ins. firms. "the most leftwing pres since fdr".

>> No.10794130

Oh look, another thread about how people from other areas of the world scare them.

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>>10794037
The more precious a thing is, the more fragile it tends to be.

>> No.10794256

>>10794037
No.

>> No.10794260

>>10794130
Seriously colonization wasnt that big of a deal cmon people

>> No.10794265

>>10794073
>Businesses are most interested in competent people
>diversity hiring
Hello?

>> No.10794285

>>10794087
Id rather be a medicore guy competeing with people within my own borders and not the whole globe.

>> No.10794332

>>10793787
>Shami Chakrabarti
>Bengali Brahmin (her surname literally means "ruler of the country")

It's always funny to realize these people come from the most privileged castes in human history, who have been oppressing their underlings sometimes for millennia, and then claim oppressed status in the West.

>> No.10794354

>>10794265
You really think they care about diversity hiring unless if it makes them more money?

>> No.10794398

>>10794130
Absolute plebian

>> No.10794405

>>10793933
Where's your point? I can't seem to find it.

>> No.10795095

>>10792056
>He chooses pussy.
Not surprised Anon but you're still a traitor.

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>>10794037
>a cathedral is more fragile than a cave therefore it is inferior

>> No.10795251

>>10792133
empires collapse into ethnostates because when the structure crumbles we all end up killing people who aren't like us ;)

that's how homogeneity is created

>> No.10795486

>>10793407
>Assuming my political instance from a 5 word comment
And I am the 'know it all'?