/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10773665]

ITS HAPPENING /tv/
>Get in here boys!!

[Anonymous No.10773681]

should we address the room in the elephant first?

[Anonymous No.10773701]

>>10773665
Oh joy genre fiction

[Anonymous No.10773715]

>>10773665
eh wasn't there already a movie by Truffaut?

[Anonymous No.10773720]

>>10773715
Yes, and it was terrible.
>>10773701
This.

[Anonymous No.10773724]

>>10773665
Okay? This is just the adult version of the giver( and worse than it)

[Anonymous No.10773746]

>>10773701
>>10773724
>reading for the plot
Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose, don't be a retard.

[Anonymous No.10773761]

>>10773746
>Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose,
don't be a retard.

[Anonymous No.10773774]

>>10773746
>Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose

[Anonymous No.10773778]

>>10773774
>Bradbury had lit tier prose

[Anonymous No.10773781]

>making a TV series about a book warning about TV replacing books

really made me think

[Anonymous No.10773789]

based /tv/ poster

[Anonymous No.10773798]

>>10773761
read Dandelion Wine then kys

[Anonymous No.10773799]

>inb4 it is much better than the book

[Anonymous No.10773805]

>>10773746
It's true Bradbury is like a scifi Updike

[Anonymous No.10773819]

>>10773665
I like the cast but the trailer looked terrible, almost like a parody. It will probably be fun seeing alt-righters getting triggered though.

[Anonymous No.10773821]

>>10773665

I've already seen Equilibrium, though.

Michael Shannon is a great actor.

[Anonymous No.10773842]

>>10773819
The Alt-Right are believe they're the marganlized people trying to preserve knowledge and truth though
Just imagine all the books on the pile as the bellcurve and thomas sowell textbooks

[Anonymous No.10773867]

>>10773665
>>10773819
I can't wait to read a million articles on how this is the future trump envisions, or seeing people dressing up as Fahrenheit 451's firefighters while loitering around government buildings. Wow, so much fun.

[Anonymous No.10773872]

>>10773842
This was based on Nazis burning books though whaaaat? If anything they hate the idea of thoughts that conflict with their own and discard tradition, which now is MANY books

[Anonymous No.10773879]

>>10773746
>Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose

[Anonymous No.10773889]

>>10773746
>don't be a retard

[Anonymous No.10773895]

>>10773872
it is definitely the Left who want to burn books though, if the books are racist or whatever. Unless we are talking about like Fundie Christians burning 'satanic' fiction

[Anonymous No.10773908]

>>10773895

There is no American left. It's only slightly more left than right, and only retards want to burn the books. However, the stuff like statues of American Civil War "heroes" deserve to be taken down. Glorifying traitors doesn't help anyone.

I do think that garbage like Lauren Southern and that horse-faced neocon that I can't remember the name of right now need to be stopped from writing drivel.

[Anonymous No.10773909]

>>10773895
Yeah but temper tantrum drama queens are the ones posting it. Anyone sane understands the right to knowledge

[Anonymous No.10773917]

>>10773908
They weren't traitors; they were sectionalists. They didn't betray what they considered their country.

[Anonymous No.10773921]

>>10773908
>need to be stopped from writing drivel.
well then aren't you literally being a bookburner fag

I don't really identify with Rightwing politics but I come to 4chan literally only because there is no censorship of racism and stuff here

[Anonymous No.10773924]

>>10773917

Their country was the United States which they betrayed in order to keep others in bondage. Wowza.

[Anonymous No.10773926]

>>10773917
Not him, but celebrating losers is generally frowned upon for being both dumb and them being now considered wrong

[Anonymous No.10773927]

>>10773872
>leftypol is trying to appropriate fashwave
Cringe.

[Anonymous No.10773932]

>>10773927
Fashwave is already cringy. Stop ruining retrowave with your already dead values

[Anonymous No.10773935]

>>10773926
There is nothing wrong with celebrating people who lost. I don't understand this way of thinking at all.
>>10773924
They didn't consider themselves Americans. You are correct that they broke away because of slavery, but they did not view themselves as Americans at any point. It wasn't that they thought slavery was going to be banned and then decided they would no longer identify as Americans.

[Anonymous No.10773950]

>>10773932
>Stop ruining retrowave with your already dead values
>He doesn't get the connection.
Sad! This is the calibre of the teenage socialists somehow finding their way here.
>>10773924
>>10773819
>>10773908
>>10773872

[Anonymous No.10773953]

>>10773935
History is written by the victors is a great statement. If you win you can frame the losers in anyway way you want, and it would be true. We have to respect that rule if we are to progress forward, otherwise we spend too much time saying "what if.." Instead of "what now.."

[Anonymous No.10773963]

>>10773950
You don't connect with retro anon. Retro inspires a sense of nostalgia normally, and fascism inspires imagery of the cruelty of mankind,the monsters we are capable of. We must never again create them

[Anonymous No.10773968]

>>10773963
>fascism inspires imagery of the cruelty of mankind,the monsters we are capable of
absolute memery. Only if you're jewish. If you're white it inspires imagery of the last time white people respected themselves and strove to have a decent society

[Anonymous No.10773976]

>>10773968
I'm neither
You shouldn't be proud of sins against humanity anon. I'm pretty sure your traditional values says that human life is valuable.

[Anonymous No.10773981]

>>10773963
My sides.

[Anonymous No.10773985]

>>10773976
all regimes have committed sins against humanity, people don't like fascism for its sins but for its virtues

[Anonymous No.10773989]

>>10773924
Just like the united stated betrayed the empire by leaving it wow... its almost like if you lose a war to leave a country you were traitors and if you win you were bravely fighting for self government.

[Anonymous No.10773998]

>>10773985
The virtue IS the sin. They wished to eliminate an entire group of people off the planet. It would be a tragedy equal to that of the destruction of the library of Alexandria. All that culture, knowledge, history, erased for a theory a mad man had

[Anonymous No.10774002]

>>10773998
the Fascists didn't want to eliminate anyone, you're thinking of the Nazis, and they didn't want to eliminate them so much as they didn't want them in Germany, they were Zionists.

Here is the doctrine of Fascism
http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm

[Anonymous No.10774017]

>>10774002
My bad
But facisim is still an ideology of hate and assumed superiority, who was debunked by the fact that they lost the war

[Anonymous No.10774020]

>>10773746
everyone replying to this with >Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose

Has not read Bradbury.

[Anonymous No.10774048]

>>10774017
>>10773998
>>10773976
Actually sub-reddit tier.

[Anonymous No.10774053]

>>10774017
>an ideology of hate and assumed superiority,
it's more an ideology of aspiration to superiority, an ideology of growth. I don't see where you're getting the hate from, it just constrains love to within the nation and sets the others as enemies to be fought.

The Fascists did lose though, which does sort of 'debunk' their claims to world-historical meaning.

[Anonymous No.10774061]

>>10774020
Everyone has read Bradbury, we all went to high school

[Anonymous No.10774064]

>>10774048
> being an asshole is wrong guys
> LOL REDDIT GTFO SOYBOY NUMALE KEKOLD LIBTARD
Inspiring. To be as blunt as I can be, you lost a war fair and square, thus your ideology doesn't have the right to show up in politics ever again

[Anonymous No.10774074]

>>10774020
Why would you to be fair

[Anonymous No.10774118]

>>10774064

Anon, I think that if you were to carefully consider the implications of what you wrote in that sentence, you yourself would not agree with it.

I'd advise you to read it again.

[Anonymous No.10774132]

>>10774118
As I mentioned before, history is written by victors. A war is the ultimate debate between 2 ideologies, the victor will be kept while the loser will be thrown away and looked at as a failure. This is what history is for, realizing that some ways of thinking are objectively wrong because they failed. If hitler won, we'd be speaking German and have blonde hair, but that's not how it played out. You should study the past to make sure you don't repeat failures and waste time

[Anonymous No.10774136]

>>10774132
>If hitler won, we'd be speaking German and have blonde hair,
lel

[Anonymous No.10774164]

>>10774132
>history is written by victors.

This is what apologists say when they ignore the books and all the written accounts of the losing ponies they back.

With regards to the American Civil War could it be that the confederates were fighting to keep slaves and that, maybe, just maybe, that's not good at all?

[Anonymous No.10774171]

>>10774061
lel

[Anonymous No.10774179]

>>10774164
Well yeah having slaves is bad now anon, but if the confederates won we'd have slaves.

[Anonymous No.10774197]

>>10773715
>>10773720
It was pretty decent, actually.

[Anonymous No.10774200]

>>10774179

Absolutely correct since nowhere else in the world had abolished slavery and it certainly wasn't on its way out.

Americans. Mein Gott.

[Anonymous No.10774248]

>>10774200
> implying every Europian country doesn't parrot America

[Anonymous No.10774262]

>>10774248
>>10774200
>>10774179
slavery was obviously abolished because it was less efficient that industrial capitalism

[Anonymous No.10774273]

>>10774248
Europe, Mexico, etc had abolished slavery a good 40-60 years before the US.

[Anonymous No.10774283]

>>10774061
>implying everyone on /lit/ where to a murican high school

[Anonymous No.10774524]

>>10774283
The vast majority have

[Anonymous No.10774552]

>>10773872
>everything about this post
god damn i hate /pol/ but leftists are unbearable faggots in every regard

[Anonymous No.10774687]

>>10774020
>this is Tardbury fans really think
Woof, how embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10774908]

This will be worth watching if just for seeing Michael Shannon.

[Anonymous No.10774921]

>>10773781

[Anonymous No.10774937]

>>10773908
I can see maybe statues of lee or davis but statues dedicated to just rag tag soldiers should be fine theyre recognized as american deaths by most historians.

[Anonymous No.10774947]

>>10773908
>There is no American left.
This is blatantly wrong. Abandoning orthodox Marxism-Leninism for racial Leninism doesn't magically you rightist unless your brain has been fried by Marxism.

[Anonymous No.10775167]

>>10774132
If the Third Reich had won, would you think that the Holocaust is then justified? Also, pretty much every single "fascist" today is just advocating for nativism instead of being ethnically replaced through mass immigration. Do you think that they should just give up because "history is written by victors", even though WWII was not fought over whether or not there should be immigration into Europe?

[Anonymous No.10775202]

Someone lent me this because they said I'd like it and I found it abysmal, the most mediocre dystopian novel I've read

[Anonymous No.10775362]

>>10773842
>alt-right
>sowell
pick one.

[Anonymous No.10775476]

>>10774908
Shannon is so great

[Anonymous No.10775578]

>>10773908
Wrong, the truth is there is no American right. Americans are soulless heretics happy to allow people to disparage and slander the church, placing secular authority above God in their hearts. So called conservatives in america support leftist delusions like freedom and democracy.

You are quite right that statues to "American heroes" should be torn down, just seeing those two words together leaves a disgusting taste in my mouth. Some books do need to be burned, I'm not sure where you stand here as you seem to contradict yourself. Obviously its better to stop heretical texts from being written at all but we need to dispose of the ones that already exist.

[Anonymous No.10775605]

WE

[Anonymous No.10775643]

>>10773746
>Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose

[Anonymous No.10775654]

>>10775578
This exactly
>mfw a republic of protestant revolutionaries is so unaware of the rest of the world that they think those are conservative principles

[Anonymous No.10775715]

>>10773746
>Bradbury had /lit/ tier prose, don't be a retard.
Found the retard who praises Bradbury's poetic prose in Goodreads.

>The trees overhead made a great sound of letting down their dry rain.
>(...)
>"Of course," he said, "you're a new neighbour, aren't you?"
>"And you must be"--she raised her eyes from his professional symbols--"the fireman."
>Her voice trailed off.
>"How oddly you say that."
>"I'd-I'd have known it with my eyes shut," she said, slowly.

>Montag could lip-read what Mildred was saying in the doorway. He tried not to look at her mouth, because then Beatty might turn and read what was there, too.

>Beatty shook Montag's limp hand. Montag still sat, as if the house were collapsing about him and he could not move, in the bed. Mildred had vanished from the door.

>"You can't guarantee things like that! After all, when we had all the books we needed, we still insisted on finding the highest cliff to jump off. But we do need a breather. We do need knowledge. And perhaps in a thousand years we might pick smaller cliffs to jump off. The books are to remind us what asses and fools we are. They're Caesar's praetorian guard, whispering as the parade roars down the avenue, `Remember, Caesar, thou art mortal.' (...)

>Silence. Montag sat like a carved white stone. The echo of the final hammer on his skull died slowly away into the black cavern where Faber waited for the echoes to subside.

>He wanted to see the man alive and not burned back there like a body shelled in another body.

>Montag snapped his gaze to the sky. The helicopters were closer, a great blowing of insects to a single light source.

>The men lay gasping like fish laid out on the grass. They held to the earth as children hold to familiar things, no matter how cold or dead, no matter what has happened or will happen, their fingers were clawed into the dirt, and they were all shouting to keep their eardrums from bursting, to keep their sanity from bursting, mouths open, Montag shouting with them, a protest against the wind that ripped their faces and tore at their lips, making their noses bleed.
>(...)
>Silence fell down in the sifting dust, and all the leisure they might need to look around, to gather the reality of this day into their senses.

[Anonymous No.10775747]

>>10774197
It was terrible, Truffaut had no idea what he was doing and just mired himself in the style of the era. The relationship between the lead and his romantic partner was also crap. Truffaut is not someone who can do science fiction.

[Anonymous No.10775803]

>>10774947
>racial Leninism

[Anonymous No.10777089]

>>10774524
No wonder why /lit/ is so autistic and pretentious