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Was he really that smart?

>> No.10757889

I'm so smart. Why does no one around me appreciate that? I'm talented and all in all better than most people around me... I just want to be appreciated, you know?

>> No.10757897

>>10757878
he was wise but that´s another story

>> No.10758015

He was an overlooked and underappreciated writer who was rediscovered several decades after his time, precisely because he was so far ahead of his time.

>> No.10758334

>>10757897
>he was so far ahead of his time.
How so?
>>10757897
What do you mean?

>> No.10758375

Essentially yes. A lot of his work that's quoted is his special snowflake/edgy quotes where he holds contrary positions and says yeah it's edgy but that's the way it is. But there's always that tinge of genius to it. Mostly I'd say his genius is most noticeable and in it's purest form in Beyond Good and Evil where he attacks the foundations upon which the entirety of Western philosophy was derived. While his contemporaries were following these principles to other conclusions with different modes of thinking Nietzsche was completely discrediting the entirety of Western philosophy. Truly on original mind

>> No.10758394

>>10758375
And then we got 9yo trannies and immigrant flooding, because that big headed faggot eroded our civilizations ciments. Thanks neeches!

>> No.10758411

no smarter than a contemporary philo grad student who pushes the limits of nootropics, dummy

>> No.10758437

>>10758394
Thats on capitalism boi

>> No.10758450

>>10758411
But he did it more than a century ago and without nootropics, he was actually a casual opiates user afaik, the complete opposite of a nootropic!

>> No.10758459

If you want real truth, go read some knee chee.

>> No.10758465

>>10757878
He was a genius.

>> No.10758476

>>10758450
also cocaine. don't know about you, but when i take opiates my mind races with ideas and fills itself with waking dreams

>> No.10758479

>>10758476
Same, but I can never make something out of it
I'm trying to quit tho so please stop talking about them

>> No.10758503

>>10758459
free drinks and a pizza

>> No.10758514
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>>10757878
Short answer, "yes" with an "if." Long answer, "no" with a "but."

>> No.10758517

i'm enamored by this guy. someone who's read his works extensively, let me ask you something: what is it about him? what did he possess from the horrors he endured in his upbringing that allowed him to write such glorious masterpieces of philo?

>> No.10758532

>>10758517
a Soul

>> No.10758576
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10758576

Hahaha how can Nietzsche be real hahha like nigga just do math hahah

>> No.10758627

>>10758576
>tries to derive math from pure logic
>fails miserably
What did he mean by this?

>> No.10758632

>>10758514
gay post desu i'd be ashamed

>> No.10758651
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>>10758517
Stop being in your nietzschean phase

>> No.10758653

>>10758632
it was just a prank, bro

>> No.10758692

>>10758651
What comes after the Nietzschean phase?

>> No.10758720

>>10758692
Probably deleuzian phase or just going back to the greeks and staying there for ever phase

>> No.10758743

>>10758720
Didn't Nietzsche want us all to back to the greeks?

>> No.10758762

>>10758743
Yeah but who cares those are his own values craft your own nignog

>> No.10758765

>>10758743
he liked the Romans better than the greeks, which alone is enough to discount all his opinions

>> No.10758776

>>10758765
will is everything
>>10758762
gud 4 u anon i mean it

>> No.10758789

No. He was a clever university professor, that's all.
Most of his observations were inevitable given the circumstances.

>> No.10758826

>>10758789
Yeah bro thats why academia only got at his level like 40 years after his death haha totally just your average joe

>> No.10758936

>>10758653
sure it was

>> No.10759167

>>10758936
Trust him.

>> No.10759828
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>>10758627
>>10758576
>I don't understand Gödel incompleteness theorem.
Given any finite set of axioms the dichotomy holds: There are things you can't prove from them; Your system has a paradox somewhere.
You can't prove any possible proposition from the axioms of first order logic. The same way you can't prove any proposition from any set of finite axioms. What this leaves to us is either: Have "Mathematics" be whatever up to now we think is worthy of the title or; A positivist but still arbitrary approach such as "Mathematics is rigorous stuff."

>> No.10759937

>>10759828
Yeah thats why we are making fun of Russell

>> No.10760470

>>10758517
He was organically disenchanted with the common social path at a young age due to familial circumstances, experienced states of pain followed by elation thanks to his health, and started with the Greeks. He was the perfect man to philosophize and write what he did.

>> No.10760536

>>10760470
>tfw my case is similar but I'm a brainlet
jdimsa

>> No.10760949

>>10759828
Thus faith in God is a prerequisite for all proof.

>> No.10760969

>>10760470
thank you

>> No.10761028

>>10757878
He was for philosophy what Black Metal is to music. Some don't understand it and try to besmirch it, same for Nietzsche. Anti-philosophy.

>> No.10761091

>>10757878
He was a pretty smart guy, yeah.

>> No.10761244

If Nietzsche was so smart how could his sister have been such a brainlet?

>> No.10761583

>>10758437
this but I hope you're not a commie

>> No.10761600

>>10757878

Putting aside a glorification of his loneliness and a tenancy to typify people according to categories, Yes.

Heidegger next.

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>>10757878
The smartest.