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Ive heard its kino

>> No.10751784

>>10751779
never read it, listened to a summary of it, will now definitely never read it

>> No.10751808

>I heard
>uses the word "kino"
It's a shitty novel for dumb teenagers who are nostalgic for an age that never existed. Or a shitty novel for fuck who grew up in the 80s and still masturbate to the NES for godforsaken some reason.

>> No.10751810

>/tv/ shitposter trying to fit in
go back and take your garbage poplit with you

>> No.10751848

>>10751784
>summary
372 Pages We'll Never Get Back?

>> No.10751855

>>10751784
Whats it even about

>> No.10751876
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>>10751848
no. but sounds intriguing
>>10751855
protags real life sucks but in fantasy world he is really great, the chosen one blah blah blah real filthy prole shit. pic related would enjoy

>> No.10751964

>>>/tv/95092076

>> No.10751987

>>10751779
Pa fuera

>> No.10752023

>>10751876
Who is this handsome fella?

>> No.10752068

>>10751779
It's a modern day Divine Comedy

>> No.10752174

I was in this /tv/ thread...

>> No.10752251

Bump

>> No.10752673

> The hardcover looks worse than the paperback

How did they manage to do this?

>> No.10752736

Cmon, somebody post the juicy parts.

>> No.10752858

Post some excerpts you fags

>> No.10752865

>>10751779
>deal with it, kid

>> No.10752869

>>10751779
Someone post the "poem" written by the author

>> No.10752875

>>10751964
That's actually pretty amusing

>> No.10752915
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10752915

It's the American Psycho of 90's techno-nostalgia fetishism

Some readers might identify with the (caricature) protagonist, but that is the case for many works. I couldn't finish it, it was too grotesque and accurate, reminding me of so much of current internet mono culture that has grown out of a previous generation's "counter culture". Ernest Cline has done an excellent job in that regard.

>> No.10752953

>>10752915
Yeah, it's actually misunderstood work of a genius. A great satire on a modern society.

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>> No.10753314

>>10753218
literally kill me

>> No.10753346

>>10753218
How is this even readable

>> No.10753365

>>10753218
widespread literacy was a mistake

>> No.10753374

>>10753218
literally not any different than people on /lit/ obsessing over "the canon" and collecting useless tidbits of fictional trivia just because a book is old and famous

>> No.10753375

>>10753218
When I first read this I thought it was Ernest Cline talking about his research for writing the novel

>> No.10753377

>>10753374
>literally not any different
it is literally very different

>> No.10753379

>>10753374
>the greatest works of literature ever produced are on par with videogames

>> No.10753384

>>10753218
This is just a list of random shit. :/

>> No.10753386

>>10753377
HOW? Joyce and Pynchon namedrop all the chic authors you're supposed to like and that's somehow deep? And most "classic" authors today were low-brow trash in their time, but now you say "omg soo deep old knowledge wow." This is why no one reads anymore, there's nothing to be found but stuffy pretentiousness

>> No.10753395

>>10753374
>discussing the works of the canon is literally the same as making a list of 80s kids shows crap

>> No.10753398

>>10753386
I'll admit Bleeding Edge came close at times

>> No.10753402

>>10753379
Most of these "greatest works of literature" have nothing to say so they hide behind the false idols of obscurantism. If you can't convey your ideas clearly and concisely, you aren't worth listening to

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>>10753374
>>10753379
>>10753384
>>10753386
>>10753395
GUIS you are discussing this piece of shit book. For shame. Now hide this thread and go read.

>> No.10753413

>>10753402
Mention specific examples of these books that have "nothing to say."

>> No.10753414

>>10753395
Pop culture is more relevant to the lives of people today than the endless droning of some long dead, aristocratic white men

>> No.10753427

>>10753402
A piece of literature isn't just a vehicle for an idea, it's an aesthetic work in and of itself

>> No.10753434

>>10753414
Popularity and quality aren't the same. Being discerning is a good thing.

>> No.10753438
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When it came to my research, I never took any shortcuts. Over the past forty years, I'd worked my way down the entire western canon. Plato. Aristotle. Cicero. Livy. Herodotus. Augustine. Aquinas. Dante. Did I mention the Sumerians? I read every novel in order to be on Shakespeare's plateau, though I'm fully self-aware insofar as Shakespeare's genius being a shade of mystery.

And but so I didn't stop there.

I also read ever single book throughout every archaic library I could find. If it might have made me the greatest writer since Shakespeare, something like Yeats's Collected Poems, Goethe's ouvre, Plutarch, re-reading Aristotle for the fiftieth time because of my Jesuit education, then I re-read it until I knew every line by heart.

I devoured each of what is genuinely referred to as a canonical book: Gilgamesh (in the original Sumerian), The New Testament, Hesiod, the Greek tragedians, and Aristophanes (in The Frogs he preferred to pretend that Euripides wasn't a good a playwright as Aeschylus or Sophocles. I tended to agree [by the way: kekekek!])

I also absorbed the complete collections of every great author before my time. Ovid, Homer, Virgil, Martial, Seneca, Marlowe, Petrarch, Kyd, Hobbes. And, of course, Kevin Smith.

I spent three months studying every book of the Old Testament and memorizing all the times a female character might have shit her pants.

"Genesis 25:1 - Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah."

You could say I covered all the bases.

>> No.10753442

>>10751779
its p kino senpai, defo reccomend. i saw the movie so i decided i would read the book, really good stuff

>> No.10753445

>>10753402
are you the retard who says capeshit is modern mithology on par with the iliad?

>> No.10753452

>>10753445
They are.

>> No.10753459

>>10753438
People would unironically praise Joyce for this

>> No.10753462

>>10753442
wtf why i cannot write senpai lol

>> No.10753467

>>10753438
If this was in the middle of a novel it would also be retarded. The problem isn't just the subject of the author's obsession, but his autistic writing too.

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>>10753467
This is acceptable though lmao

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10753480

you prole fucks will literally argue about anything. this stinky turd for boomers really riled your jimmies.

>> No.10753485

>>10753472
kekekekek

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>>10753402
>>10753414
>>10753452

>> No.10753516

>50 responses later
>not a single valid criticism other than muh 80s references
I knew it, /lit/ is still king of keeping up appearances. All talk and no substance

>> No.10753654

>>10753516
It being a self-insert fantasy about video games isn't enough? The premise itself doesn't scream "this is trash" loudly enough already?

>> No.10753734

>>10753654
Wait so its unironically about a guy getting stuck in a videogame?
That’s literal fanfiction tier.

>> No.10753765

Meme YA SJW cat scratch.

>> No.10753779

>>10753734
Plato literally wrote fanfiction about his senpai and you people treat him like a god

>> No.10753804

>>10753218
>I'm mildly familiar with pop culture

KEK. This is how deluded people today are about their "knowledge" of trivial shit

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>>10753218

>> No.10753943

>>10752915
>>10752953
oh GOD is this true?

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>>10751779
Just read the first few chapters and stop if you don't like it.
It's an easy read so those chapters will fly by and you won't waste too much time if you don't like it. Personally I think it gets way too much shit thrown its way but the book definitely falls apart at the end.

>> No.10753960

>>10753218
>Only the meek get punched. The bold survive
THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG

That aside, nice list of good stuff, bad stuff and average stuff. Imagine getting paid for writing that.

>> No.10753970

>>10753374
The difference is that I don't publish my dairy. Desu.

>> No.10754019

>>10753924
jésus how pseud can one get

>> No.10754095

>>10753943
No. They're either trolling or retarded.
It doesn't critique the MC at all, he succeeds in everything. Ernest Cline himself is also a cringeworthy, obnoxious fuck that's exactly the kind of person you would expect to write this shit book.

>> No.10754139

>>10753374
This
Check yourselves

>> No.10754214

>>10753779
I don't, I think Plato's a faggot

>> No.10754292

>>10753943
Yes, don't listen to the other guy. It uses Brechtian framing techniques to criticize the video game consumer culture. It's probably the greatest book in the western canon too.

>> No.10754300

Why do science fiction authors and "normal" ones differ in their formatting so much?
Looking at the size of the pharagraphs in >>10753924 and >>10753218

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>>10752915
>>10753218

Compare the protagonist of Ready Player One's self-awareness to Dostoyevsky's Underground Man or Ignatius from Confederacy of Dunces Were you to post in a subredidit or /co/ or /tv/ you could find this type of person, and interact with them. They don't (overtly, consciously) critique themselves but exist as useful caricatures of a type of person the author was intently fixated upon exploring.

> I
> I
> I
> I

I find it difficult to believe an author could write a narrator this way without it being an obvious foil, but it is entirely possible. Without Cline's intent, (but knowing he is aware of and possibly enjoyed all the 80s and 90s media listed in the passage), the mere repetition of the narrator-as-subject appears comically absurd.

Did Cline intend to write a plucky and autistic self-insert (can you imagine how much more ham-fisted this appeal to millennials would be if it were written post-election 2016?) or a caricature of a specific undercurrent of the 21st century ego, fed a steady diet of commodified nostalgia, starring in it's own linear hero's journey?
Does it matter, when the former could be used to explain and attempt to deal with the latter?

Personally I hope that Cline hates the protagonist and everything it stands for, and is fully aware that those in his audience who resonate with the protagonist (who he effectively lampoons) will sail him into retirement by buying the book, the video game, the t shirt, tickets to the movie, and so on, and so on.

>> No.10754650

It's only appeal is coming across some reference to some 80s memorabilia and going Ooo ooo ooo! I know that!

The premise is absurd,and how this schlock caught Spielberg's eye baffles me. A lich playing Joust ? Mske THAT cinematic significant, sunshine.

>> No.10754661

Because it's a book and /lit/ needs something to hate.

>> No.10754668

>>10754442
Big if true

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>>10754650
whol up, you sayin some kind of mummy be flyin around on an ostrich and shit trying to avoid pterodactyls and knock some other fool off his big bird? might be good

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>>10754442
I see your point. It's like how Rick & Morty fans sperged out over McDonald's szechuan sauce because, the writers made it Rick's motivation, but it was really an absurdist jab on why he went on adventures. It went completely over heads of the fans, and the "You have to have a high IQ to enjoy Rick & Morty" meme is the icing on the cake. Nerds are fucking retarded.

>> No.10754768

>>10754673
You wish it was that interesting.

The lich and the protagonist play 2 player on an arcade console. And the lich should be only a skull with gems that devour your soul. It's from a ADnD module called Tomb of Horrors, which I played a thousand years ago. The author should know their source material if they want to write about such things.

>> No.10754792

>>10754768
yeah I have a passing knowledge of the tomb of horrors, it was a dungeon purposely made to troll the pcs. sucks. I'm not saying I want one, but I am pretty sure I need a live action adaptation of Joust now ala Battleship, but ya know with competent casting and a sense of humor

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>>10753218
>Stephenson
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

God, I hate that asshole.

>> No.10754858

>>10751779
My radio frequency teacher really likes this book, and says the movie is gonna be good. Isn't the book just fan fiction though?

>> No.10754875

>>10754858
Isn't the Divine Comedy just fanfiction? :O

>> No.10754900

>>10754875
DELET

>> No.10754925

>>10754875
Literally a self-insert male power fantasy

>> No.10754965

>>10753386
>s-shakespeare was lowbrow!

stop spreading this meme. playwrights were no lowbrow.

>> No.10754983

>>10754739
I watched part of that episode (it was on when Samurai Jack was supposed to air), and I interpreted it as a ridiculous throwaway gag by using an obscure one-shot fast food item.

>> No.10755005

>>10754739
aw man i feel bad for the girl in that picture

>> No.10755031

>>10755005
well now at least she can learn to put down the wizard books and pick up the cookbooks to make satisfying meals for her male provider and family

>> No.10755048

>>10755005
Agreed, spaghetti sauce is hard to wash out of clothes.

>> No.10755101

>>10754965
And even if Shakespeare were lowbrow that would be an extremely clear indication that the "lowbrow" of the 16th century surpasses the "highbrow" of today

>> No.10755354

>>10753218
I remember reading this during my "nerdy" years and I fucking hated this part.
And when he talked about religion and shit like that

>> No.10755368

>>10754442
He's just a faggot, you're overthrowing this. A faggot for 80s nostalgia. Yawn inducing.

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>> No.10755419

This is the most reddit cringe inducing try hard pleb garbage I have ever read. Worse than fifty shades of grey I'm not fucking kidding