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Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:27:12 2018 No.10736740 [Reply] [Original]

Recommend good novels that display 19th-century London setting

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:28:46 2018 No.10736747 >>10736740 But British novels are garbage

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:31:19 2018 No.10736759 >>10736740 William Makepace Thackery or Charles Dickens Thackery = gentlemen Dickens = satire

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:36:32 2018 No.10736792 >>10736747 g8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:37:42 2018 No.10736797 >>10736792 Its true though, Victorian Britain is ok tier at best. Nothing compared to what the French and Russians were producing at the time

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 16:48:31 2018 No.10736840 File: 146 KB, 640x1040, middlemarch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10736797 >Victorian Britain is ok tier at best. Dickens is overrated, Eliot is the best of the Victorians.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:03:42 2018 No.10736903 >>10736740 READ DUBLINERS AND GET THE FUCK OUT ANGLO SHILL LOOKING MOTHER FUCKER YOU DESERVE NOTHING BUT HAYE

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:22:00 2018 No.10736982 >>10736903 m8 at least acknowledge the rising happened two kings after victoria the famine queen.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:24:40 2018 No.10736994 >>10736759 You forgot Conan Doyle

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:27:29 2018 No.10737004 >>10736982 Type full words, acting like a nigger ironically is still acting like a nigger Such is the state of the Great Shitstain

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:30:56 2018 No.10737018 >>10737004 Cuma liom ce chomh neamheolasach is ea tu ar ar stair, is oinseach thu, a leannan

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:33:32 2018 No.10737029 >>10737018 >cuma lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:37:10 2018 No.10737052 >>10736797 >the French When will this meme end? Balzac, Hugo, Stendhal, are all so middle of the road. They’re on a par with the unremarkable works of Britain in that same era desu, but at least there was Eliot in England.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:38:17 2018 No.10737058 File: 42 KB, 800x370, Thunder_Child.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10736740 War of the Worlds

Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:40:47 2018 No.10737071
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The Secret Agent by Joseph Konrad

I thought his description of scenes and settings were very interesting to read, and made me a better writer as a result. Also it was Ted Kaczynski's favorite book, which is also a plus I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:45:40 2018 No.10737090 >>10737004 haha nice 1, ur a rly 1337 mf a/s/l?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:47:21 2018 No.10737104 File: 4 KB, 200x252, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10737052 bloque to chemin

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 17:59:56 2018 No.10737168 Three Men In A Boat Trainspotting (Scotland is always two hundred years behind the rest of the world)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 18:52:21 2018 No.10737497 >>10737104 He wasn’t a novelist though

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 19:00:20 2018 No.10737545 >>10737497 No but his poetry is written in prose and his essays written aesthetically

>>	Fenix Down Wed Feb 21 19:02:22 2018 No.10737557 >>10736740 The russians are coming.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 19:17:28 2018 No.10737625 >>10736840 >Dickens is overrated it's not often i say this but you're a massive faggot

plans !!MFzodCNsln0 Wed Feb 21 19:19:39 2018 No.10737635

The Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad
Quite a lot of Dickens (Bleak House, David Copperfield etc)
Most of Oscar Wilde (Picture of Dorian Gray)
Much of Dracula is set in London as is The Great God Pan by Arthur Machen if you like witchy stuff.

>>10737168
Three Men In A Boat is set upriver from Kingston, only the first couple of pages are in London. You might as well say Heart of Darkness has a 19th century London setting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 19:53:54 2018 No.10737810 File: 80 KB, 450x399, blackadder 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10736747

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 19:54:56 2018 No.10737815 >>10736740 Dr.Jekyll and Mr Hyde Dickens

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 20:01:14 2018 No.10737855 File: 540 KB, 713x677, 1504798609048.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10736840 >Dickens is overrated,

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 21 20:03:43 2018 No.10737868 >>10737810 he said british, not jewish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 03:59:46 2018 No.10739517 New Grub Street

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 05:57:11 2018 No.10739737 Jekyll and Hyde tbqh

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 06:47:50 2018 No.10739837 Henry Mayhew's London Labour & The London Poor. It's not a novel, more like proto-sociology, but you can almost smell Victorian London

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 06:56:52 2018 No.10739857 Dracula

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 06:57:32 2018 No.10739860 >>10736740 Frankenstein

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 10:00:07 2018 No.10740394 >>10736740 Lots of works by Dickens

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 10:01:28 2018 No.10740402 >>10736903 >ANGLO SHILL LOOKING MOTHER FUCKER You sound African-American, definitely not Irish

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 10:02:30 2018 No.10740408 When will the mystery meat know it's place?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 11:01:13 2018 No.10740588 >>10740408 kys

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 11:43:54 2018 No.10740747

>>10739837
Nice rec.

I'd also recommend People of the Abyss on the same issue.

Also, I sincerely hope there is at least one Anon out there writing an angry book about the current state of Londonistan. The French are way ahead of us Brits when it comes to writing angsty shit about the non-white invasion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 11:58:17 2018 No.10740830 >>10740747 >The French are way ahead of us Brits when it comes to writing angsty shit about the non-white invasion. Give us some book names then

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 11:59:19 2018 No.10740836 >>10740747 >implying that most British people dont already know about it

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 12:01:38 2018 No.10740845
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>>10736740
Dickens. I remember there was quite a bit to do with "moving to the city" and industrialisation in it. I think Dickens was quite opposed to the 'city' though, so take it with a pinch of salt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 13:18:37 2018 No.10741225 >>10740836 >implying they're not peasantmind cucks who are in favor of it because the BBC told them its good

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 13:28:06 2018 No.10741282 >>10740830 Houellebecq's stuff, Zemmour's French Suicide, etc >>10740836 Not the point. There is no mainstream cultural symbol they can look to and think "Bleeding eck mister dis 'ere writer's speaking my forts!"

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 13:56:12 2018 No.10741447

>>10737052
>They’re on a par with the unremarkable works of Britain in that same era
That has to be the most ludicrous claim I have seen in a while. The vast majority of 19th century Anglo letters is utter mediocrity in comparison with the French. Anyone claiming those three French authors are
>on a par with the unremarkable works of Britain
is as hopeless a pleb as you can find. A great example of being able to read but not being able to discern nor understand no matter how many books you read.

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 14:47:47 2018 No.10741722

>>10741447
Is this your attempt at a serious reply? What a shame that French education is in such a state. Hugo is hackneyed, over the top 19th Century fodder (Les Mis is one of the most overwritten novels I’ve ever read), Stendhal’s style is utterly flat and his womanly obsession with ‘le passion’ may be of interest to the French but imo it’s aged horribly and borders on melodrama, and Balzac really isn’t even worth speaking about since there was only a small amount of his disgracefully large body of work that I could stomach. The French can’t resist inflating their own literary worth but the truth is that most of theur output is lacklustre. I’d take Hardy or Eliot over any of that half-baked garbage.

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 14:52:56 2018 No.10741746

>>10741447
>In a letter to the diplomat Robert de Billy, a college friend, Proust wrote: “It is curious that in all the different genres, from George Eliot to Hardy, from Stevenson to Emerson, there is no literature which has had as much hold on me as English and American literature. Germany, Italy, very often France leave me indifferent but two pages of The Mill on the Floss reduce me to tears.”

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:26:52 2018 No.10742372 >>10741282 There are a few but none popular enough. There are several people who they can relate to though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:28:13 2018 No.10742380 >>10736740 The way we live now by trollope

Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:29:08 2018 No.10742382

>>10741225
Not most of them. You'd be surprised at some people's views if they are pushed to express them rather than to beat themselves for it. Regardless, the BBC is utter rubbish anyway. On Radio 4 today there was a section about 'grime'. They are so out of touch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:30:44 2018 No.10742390 >>10741722 Hardy was a writer of pure hackwork. Tess the dairy maid and her mustachio’d villain lmao At least the French had Flaubert

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:30:46 2018 No.10742391 >>10741282 Nigel Farage and UKIP mostly. It was the older people who voted leave. For younger and more wealthy people it is Jacob Rees Mogg or Hitchens. But yes, I'd argue there is a gap for some kind of new strong personality.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:32:24 2018 No.10742403 >>10742390 Please don't talk about Hardy like that. Did you also miss the whole point of the book?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:36:20 2018 No.10742422 >>10742403 The book’s a bore and the characters are flatter than a chinkgf’s chest. What do I care for the message? I’m more of a Butlerboy tbqh

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 22 17:50:47 2018 No.10742501 >>10741282 >Proles read lol

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