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How much personal suffering is needed for creating great works of literature?

Can a sheltered, pampered, bubble kid, with no personal suffering or life struggles produce great art?

>> No.10712804

>>10712796

Yes. It will just have to be really stylish instead of deep.

>> No.10712810

>>10712796
Humanity is able to suffer in any environment, no matter how comfortable.

>> No.10712814

>>10712810
This.

>> No.10712815

>>10712796
There's literally no such thing as "no personal suffering"
Everyone suffers and its only bitter slave morality suckers who think their subservient forms earn them any higher awareness of life and are not just merely absurd and pointless as any other frustration

>> No.10712820

>>10712796

I don't know about "how much suffering" do you need, but the potential for extreme, mind-deforming forms of psychic pain is present everywhere in the world, in any given place.

It depends solely on the individual whether they have the capacity to suffer as much. Most people just forget pain - in all forms. Something bad happens, and after a while they forget about it.

The real sufferer remembers. The real sufferer is opened to spheres of anxiety and inner pain that you cannot even begin to imagine. The real sufferer can be the richest, most loved kid in the world and yet insignificant events will touch him as if he was flayed and left drying in the sun.

How much you can suffer is about what kind of person you are, not where or when you grew up.

>> No.10712834

>>10712810
pampered suffering is super shallow and its just a matter of putting said fag against a person who had real struggles in life, and the pampered fag will stay silent and embarrassed. its not oh so relative, real suffering has weight and depth.

>> No.10712843

>>10712834
Yeah but what about Rimbaud getting his asshole ripped as a teen? I think that is a valid form of pampered suffering.

>> No.10712854

>>10712820
>The real sufferer remembers.
I've had nightmares every week or so for 3 years now since I left school due to one person. Every day I remember things that he did and said to me and I feel as scared and as sad as if they had just happened to me. Why am I so sensitive?

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10712862

>>10712796
>how much does a unique individual have to suffer completely subjective pain in order to fulfill a completely subjective standard of writing.

>> No.10712864

>>10712834
Doesn't mean pampered suffering can't make for good literature. Look at Stoner for example.

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10712876

Man can no make story unless he get head smacked with rock every day like me