/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10707116]

Truly a contemporary masterpiece.

Have you read the book of our generation?

[Anonymous No.10707133]

>>10707116
omg

[Anonymous No.10707137]

>>10707116
No but I watched an interview with Nagle and she actually seems dope and smart I am down with her.

[Anonymous No.10707140]

>>10707116
wait what?

[Anonymous No.10707141]

>>10707116
it's a book for normies though and as bad as it may be god knows the left needs it, but it makes no sense to read it from inside the abyss

[Anonymous No.10707143]

>>10707137
i guess part of it is her being irish makes her immune to many of the anglo memery that infects everything nowadays

[Anonymous No.10707153]

Isn't everything on this website supposed to be a joke?

[Anonymous No.10707166]

>>10707153
what are you talking about? memes are real now

[Anonymous No.10707168]

[Anonymous No.10707169]

>>10707116
that's not milk & honey.

[Anonymous No.10707178]

>>10707169
nagle would beat up rupi in a fistfight

[Anonymous No.10707191]

>>10707116
Yeah, I actually like it a lot. Her talks on youtube are also great and would recommend to anyone.

I think /lit/ and 4chan in general assume she's a turbo-SJW speaking condescendingly about chan culture and memes but that's not it. She gets chan culture, why /pol/ emerged and isn't simply saying they're retarded deplorables.

Also, it's pretty ironic to see the backlash she's gotten from the left because of it. Nagle is confirmed /our gal/.

[Anonymous No.10707206]

>>10707191
This

[Anonymous No.10707221]

is this a real book? asking for a friend

[Anonymous No.10707240]

>>10707191
/ourgal/ in the sense that she is a socialist activist who wrote an ethnography the new young right for so socialists could understand what they are up against, so of course the radlibs freaked out and because they can accept in any way that they have agency in the world.


Anyways, best books by Zero are
Capitalist Realism
Continuity and Rupture
Eugene Thacker’s triology
Malign Velocities
Ghosts of My Life

Nearly everything else they’ve published is kind of garbage and a don’t really understand who buys them

[Anonymous No.10707245]

>>10707178
Nagle is a 5'9 Norman she-warrior.

[Anonymous No.10707250]

Anyways, here’s a pdf, read it for yourself, I’m surprised people here hadn’t heard of it yet,

https://track5.mixtape.moe/wsiind.pdf

[Anonymous No.10707252]

>>10707141
The left doesn't need to appeal to entitled white men, if anything there is not enough focus on the plight of women queers and marginalized people

[Anonymous No.10707254]

>>10707240
Are you alright, friend? Seems to me like you're having a stroke of some sort. Or are you unfamiliar with connectives? Is that it?

[Anonymous No.10707257]

>>10707250
Ah, I was actually going to Google that in a second. Thanks for saving me the effort.

[Anonymous No.10707266]

>>10707250
it's been memed before, but people just played with the meme, nobody read it or thought it would be actually decent

>>10707240
>/ourgal/ in the sense that she is a socialist activist who wrote an ethnography the new young right
she has said stuff like "it's easy to destroy institutions, but to build up institutions not so much" in some lectures and interviews, we'll have her among our reactionary ranks soon enough :3

[Anonymous No.10707276]

>>10707252
not sure what you mean, but i mean it's a book needed by the left in the sense that they need it strategically, not to change their ideology or goals.

i don't care in what direction they direct their efforts towards though, it's not my project

[Anonymous No.10707288]

>>10707252
kek

[Anonymous No.10707289]

>>10707250
>Introduction: From Hope to Harambe

wew lad, this is going to be a wild ride, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10707297]

Nagle is just an old-school socialist who doesn't see anything relevant in cultural "leftist" politics and radical liberalism. Post-Marxists have utterly failed to impact economic policy or the conditions of the average worker and should be discarded, hopefully for a sober re-evaluation of the project of economic transformation. We should be thinking about how societies that abolish market exchange can survive, how to transform the state into collectives of genuine democratic control etc., these questions were too easily ceded to the liberals.

[Anonymous No.10707299]

>>10707289
/lit/ reading group now?

[Anonymous No.10707303]

>>10707240
They freaked out because she criticizes tumblr and admits that 4chan is right about some things.

She's a female Christopher Lasch. I know of no higher praise.

All those books you listed are shit, btw. Capitalist Realism is a joke.

[Anonymous No.10707315]

>>10707297
Marxism is a dead-end though. What's preventing the inevitable collapse of capital? Not enough technology? Not enough ibads?

[Anonymous No.10707334]

>>10707299
I fully intend to read it and to share my favourite parts on this thread.

>This online backlash was able to mobilize a strange vanguard of teenage gamers, pseudonymous swastika-posting anime lovers, ironic South Park conservatives, anti-feminist pranksters, nerdish harassers and meme-making trolls whose dark humor and love of transgression for its own sake made it hard to know what political views were genuinely held and what were merely, as they used to say, for the lulz.
>mfw

Fucking hell.

[Anonymous No.10707342]

this seems like an interesting short read tbqh

[Anonymous No.10707347]

>>10707315
marxism is a dead end but she can be redeemed, she is not one of those autistic marxists that ignores anything that doesn't fit their theory

>>10707334
haven't read the book yet, but i kinda like her line of thought that the left fell too hard for the "counterculture" and "transgression" meme, and now the right has kind of defeated them at that game

[Anonymous No.10707357]

>>10707347
holy based assumptions poster you redeem us all within the depths of your ignorance

[Anonymous No.10707361]

>>10707250
>when you write a book about baboons but the baboons learn to read and find a copy of it

[Anonymous No.10707368]

>>10707315
First world Marxism is a dead-end, outside of western capitalism it has a lot to offer.

[Anonymous No.10707372]

>>10707347
>she is not one of those autistic marxists that ignores anything that doesn't fit their theory

wow, i'd like to meet this marxism you speak of, i don't see anything but dogmatic dead-ends or retarded idpol

Sorel was right about Marxism.

[Anonymous No.10707375]

>>10707368
there's no outside of western capitalism

[Anonymous No.10707385]

>>10707368
t. white male larping as a revolutionary

face it, marxism is dead.

[Anonymous No.10707388]

>>10707375
China begs to differ. If you don't recoil from Marxist texts then you should this article:
https://marxistleninist.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/a-question-of-state-revolution-china-market-socialism/

[Anonymous No.10707391]

>>10707116
True story: this is a required book for a course at my college called “conservatism in america”

[Anonymous No.10707400]

>>10707240
>Malign Velocities
Meh, it's a good book if you want to know more about accelerationism, but, other than that it's a really tedious book

[Anonymous No.10707402]

>>10707385
I don't live in the West but nice assumptions fag.

[Anonymous No.10707422]

>>10707388
> dude, china is socialist!

pfffttt hahahahah

the absolute state of marxist delusion

[Anonymous No.10707471]

>>10707388
so market socialism, that seems perfectly integrated with western capitalism to me, but prove me wrong if you want

[Anonymous No.10707475]

>>10707391
is the teacher actually conservative or at least considering conservatism on its own terms?

[Anonymous No.10707535]

>>10707471
China's capitalism is even more capitalist than western capitalism, which is why people like Nick Land have a major hard on for China.

[Anonymous No.10707543]

>>10707422
No marxist that isn't a maoist third-worldist neocolonial idiot actually believes this.

[Anonymous No.10707552]

>>10707535
i'm kind of hoping to see the day when the genetically engineered 7'5" 220 IQ Chad chink overlords will take over while we quibble about the new black panther movie

[Anonymous No.10707566]

>>10707422
It's anti-imperialist and state capitalist. It's sort of like early USSR when it was building its productive forces, but China is doing it for the long-term. We can't say how it will end up yet but China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination.

[Anonymous No.10707581]

>>10707250
Welp, after having read the intro I think I've caught the tone of this book. While blatantly leftist, this gal is actually trying to soberly translate /ourculture/ (which is to say, chan culture) into something that normies can understand (or at least as soberly as one can talk about fucking frog memes and /pol/). In this light I'd find it a good read, or at least I'd recommend it to some of my leftist friends if they were interested in understanding chan culture, as this gal seems to speak their language.

Imma keep reading it, seems interesting enough once you get past the memery.

[Anonymous No.10707739]

>>10707315
>What's preventing the inevitable collapse of capital
The expansion of credit as well as globalism have both played an important role, who cares if the system needs to expand slavery so long as it's in a far away country.
Honestly id argue that we're seeing it play out slowly, at least in America, politics exists as these sort of weird cargo cults in varying stages of denial that the golden age is over and it's not coming back. We just don't talk about it in those terms because there isn't any money to be made from it

[Anonymous No.10707835]

>>10707566
>It's anti-imperialist

please, stop.

[Anonymous No.10707853]

>>10707739
capitalism has given us enough technology as it is, i dont get what you cucks are waiting for why you continue to justify it

[Anonymous No.10707865]

>The alt-right is, to varying degrees, preoccupied with IQ, European demographic and civilizational decline, cultural decadence, cultural Marxism, anti-egalitarianism and Islamification but most importantly, as the name suggests, with creating an alternative to the right-wing conservative establishment, who they dismiss as ‘cuckservatives’ for their soft Christian passivity and for metaphorically cuckholding their womenfolk/nation/race to the non-white foreign invader.
kek

[Anonymous No.10707875]

>>10707116
That deosn't look like L'ANOMIE to me.

[Anonymous No.10707884]

>>10707566
>china is anti-imperialist

wew lad

[Anonymous No.10707890]

>>10707566
>It's anti-imperialist
Yeah, and they're willing to go to war with Taiwan just because muh clay

[Anonymous No.10707897]

>>10707566
>anti-imperialist
>unironically buying africa, australia and canada piece by piece
made me kek

[Anonymous No.10707926]

>To understand the seemingly contradictory politics of 4chan, Anonymous and its relationship to the alt-right, it is important to remember that the gradual right-wing turn in chan culture centered around the politics board /pol/, as compared to the less overtly political but always extreme ‘random’ board /b/. Along the way left-leaning ‘moral fags’ who had gravitated towards AnonOps IRCs suffered from a degree of state spying and repression during the height of Anonymous’s public profile from around 2010 to 2012. This absence of the more libertarian left-leaning element within chan culture created a vacuum in the image boards that the rightist side of the culture was able to fill with their expert style of anti-PC shock humor memes.
i'm still keking at finding "moral fags" written in an actual book, thanks for pointing me to this

[Anonymous No.10707933]

Telling someone to kill is morally and legally wrong, especially against normal people. Thus, this book, I'm reporting to the FBI. There's no indication it's a joke. We ought to take these statements more seriously.

[Anonymous No.10707996]

>>10707116
>everyone that disagrees with me is a virgin
Really groundbreaking scholarship from a woman right here.

[Anonymous No.10708088]

>>10707116
If god wanted us to listen to what women think of us, then why did he invent the mute button?

Checkmate atheists.

[Anonymous No.10708129]

>>10708088
If god created a perfect universe categorized by any given set or combination of ten different numerals, then why did he invent for our pleasure these repeating digits?

Checkmate, Paul Allen

[Anonymous No.10708150]

come here mods
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.10708231]

>>10708150
it's a book you retard

[Anonymous No.10708249]

>>10708231
>it's a book so it's literature
No
I bet you have even read the Lauren book. Jeez.

[Anonymous No.10708260]

>>10707853
that's a harsh meme you got there friendo

[Anonymous No.10708266]

>>10707865
one of the more accurate depictions of the alt right I've seen

[Anonymous No.10708272]

>>10708231
Read the sticky please. The whole thread is political "discussion" if you can call it that way, since most of you are just throwing buzzwords and insults at each other. This is even worse than the Peterson threads. Also as the other anon said, not every book is literature. 48 laws of power/How to win friends/12 rules threads shouldn't even be allowed on this board for example

[Anonymous No.10708330]

>>10708272
So we are only allowed to discuss works of societal critique if they're not particularly relevant?

[Anonymous No.10708340]

>>10708272
so what? i don't see you on this marx thread >>10700498 complaining for it being political

[Anonymous No.10708358]

>>10707303
>4chan is right about some things.
No she didn't. If anything she is using the two sides of coin criticism

[Anonymous No.10708371]

>>10707153
It all starts out ironic and then it becomes real.

[Anonymous No.10708401]

>>10707153
Not since the Bain crash where memes transcended reality
I am actually quite surprised that the author didn't referenced that meme since it was the biggest non-political meme that followed the trend she was illustrating

[Anonymous No.10708407]

She had some good insights, but still ultimately made the same mistake that any "outsider" (sounds gay as fuck but what else can you call them) makes, which is to take a literalist interpretation of what are otherwise hyperbolic metaphors.

[Anonymous No.10708435]

>>10707191
>backlash she's gotten from the left

sources please, very curious

[Anonymous No.10708440]

>>10708330
Where have I said that, anon?
>>10708340
>appeal to hypocrisy
Really sorry if I hit a nerve and I hope you know that doesn't make your thread any more /lit/. Also I wasn't aware the marx thread existed but I wouldn't be too worried, marx threads don't live too long.

[Anonymous No.10708629]

>>10708401
Nagle is a pseudoanon, of the type that clicks around on /b/ and /pol/ and maybe /v/ for a couple months and then goes on an Encyclopaedia Dramatica binge before churning out her first impressions for a wider audience. She is a step above places like The Atlantic which find the stupidest posts possible to screenshot and use those to dismiss the entire site and its actually quite complex dialectic (even /pol/ has thesis, antithesis and synthesis playing out across its threads constantly and knowledge and consensus is built on top of itself creating a rich tapestry of memes). Still, she fails to understand the cultural context of most of the things she sees here, and so she misses subtle nuance that could better equip her to reach out to the political elements she finds distasteful on 4chan.
>>10708407
This is a good example - a lack of societal inhibition on saying inflammatory things (indeed, almost a social pressure to say the most ridiculous things so as to distinguish your post from the thousands of faceless others) has brought the level of discourse on 4chan to preposterous heights of insult and overstatement (OP is a ginormous cocksucking faggot and this thread made me vomit all over my cat).
Nagle is the type of person to use a tripcode and start a strawpoll or a "survey thread" asking for "honest opinions pls". She is well meaning and working in good faith, but still ensnared by culture shock.

[Anonymous No.10708661]

>>10708358
The solutions are two sides of the same coin, but she agrees with some of the critiques presented by e-reactionaries.

[Anonymous No.10708676]

>>10708407
No she doesn't. She literally makes a difference between those who are just memeing and those who are sincere. One of the big questions she asks is in what political direction will go the ones who were only in it for the memes.

[Anonymous No.10708863]

Are there any other books about the alt-right phenomenon?

[Anonymous No.10708877]

>>10707116
How does it feel to know that normies think /pol/ is the face of 4chan and that most anons are probably racist alt-righters?

[Anonymous No.10708895]

>>10708863
read the book SIEGE by NS revolutionary James Mason. the most revolutionary and uncompromising classic for White nationalists fighting ZOG everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrWhpSbVmmE

[Anonymous No.10708994]

>>10708877
So you're implying you aren't?

[Anonymous No.10709015]

>>10708877
It's still a step up from /b/ t b h

[Anonymous No.10709017]

>>10708895
Not exactly what I was looking for.

[Anonymous No.10709139]

>>10709017
The news gives you 5% of what’s going on and even that’s distorted.

The Iron Cross is far above and beyond the cross of wood.

The government of the U.S. is at war with their children and the powers of nature and God, and have grown so far and above their own judgements that the Waffen SS are coming back from space left over in dreams.

See, you got to realize there’s no slack in my act … You don’t know how to survive. You’re weak. You have emotions, you play little games with your mind. You chase your tail.

– Charles Manson

Charlie did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.10709155]

>>10709017
>Not exactly what I was looking for.
You're looking for somebody to spoonfeed you analysis of a poorly defined and contemporary phenomenon? Regardless of your views if you want to understand the psyche of the "alt-right" you should read their works, otherwise you're just dealing in hearsay.

[Anonymous No.10709498]

>>10707240
Didn't Zero Books get bought by someone and their editorial line changed

[Anonymous No.10709598]

>>10707116
Zero Books. Where you go to "self publish", when no other house wants your shit.

[Anonymous No.10709662]

>>10707240
>>10709498
>>10709598
Okay it's time for someone to redpill me about Zero Books apparently. What's wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.10709714]

>>10707240
>Capitalist Realism
>Mental illnesses are because of capitalism!
Is there any psuedoscience Marxists won't gobble up uncritically?

[Anonymous No.10709729]

>>10708877
>>10709015
pol/posters aren't even white
amerimutts are delusional

[Anonymous No.10709753]

>>10709729
Yeah, You'd rather listen to good old doctor Finkenstein, good goy that you are. SSRIs/Prescription=ZOG emasculation pills

[Anonymous No.10709758]

>>10709662
its cool how you don’t have to be lucky or intelligent to know secrets anymore, you can just beg and leverage the social contract to get vital information

[Anonymous No.10709765]

>>10709753
lol this is so embarassing

[Anonymous No.10709770]

>>10708676
Shut up

[Anonymous No.10709779]

>>10707116
I've read it but it's neither a masterpiece nor the 'book of our generation.'

[Anonymous No.10709780]

>>10709765
drugs are designed to kill your sex drive/male agression and make you into an easily manageable low t nu male

[Anonymous No.10709785]

>>10707581
>this gal is actually trying to soberly translate /ourculture/ (which is to say, chan culture) into something that normies can understand
how did you not pick up on that from the fucking cover you absolute specimen

[Anonymous No.10709786]

>>10707245
>tfw no drunk Irish author gf to beat up bad poets and slur her filthy r9k pick up lines into your ears

[Anonymous No.10709793]

>>10707191
>and isn't simply saying they're retarded deplorables
Dangerous retarded deplorables? I can't think of what else she'd say about them.

[Anonymous No.10709818]

>>10709662
Douglas Lain is still an unironic Marxist, aside from that Zero Books is great. I wish he'd give up on that outdated bullshit and go full Posadist Accelerationist already.

[Anonymous No.10709823]

>>10707250
Just read the intro — her prose is awful, her paragraphs lack structure of ideas and don't interconnect, and her vision is not convincing. I can't believe this was published, desu; there's a typo in the first fucking line, for Chrissakes.

[Anonymous No.10709824]

>>10707566
Why are third worlders so ignorant about their own racism? Grow up man

[Anonymous No.10709843]

>>10709780
What about amphetamines — weren't those the Nazi drug of choice?

[Anonymous No.10709846]

>>10707566
>China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination
tfw you unironically colonize Africa and enslave the populace but western liberals stand up for you because you're not white

[Anonymous No.10709852]

>>10707581
>muh secret club

[Anonymous No.10709858]

>>10709843
good occasionally but bad for the long term. tbf the only drug that's really beneficial in the long term is coffee.

>>10709852
piss off faggot.

[Anonymous No.10709880]

>>10707116
The only people who like this garbage are dumb DSA dweebs >>10707116

[Anonymous No.10709891]

>>10709846
the Chinese are White People 2.0 with superior IQ and minus the crippling slave morality Christ complex.

[Anonymous No.10709966]

What is it with Zero Books and allusions to popular culture? Kermit the Frog, Children of Men, Kurt Cobain... Do they think this makes their arguments more "relevant to our times" or some bullshit like that?

[Anonymous No.10709986]

>>10707252
7.5/10 Subtle.

[Anonymous No.10709990]

>>10709966
Probably some overwrought influence from Zizek.

[Anonymous No.10709995]

>>10708877
>How does it feel to know that normies think /pol/ is the face of 4chan and that most anons are probably racist alt-righters?

If most people think it's the face, then it's the face.

And "alt-right" is wildly undefined, and most peolpe on 4chan sympathise with racist ideas. >inb4 I'm not and so that's wrong

[Anonymous No.10709998]

https://youtu.be/Gps0lcPGaWM

[Anonymous No.10710055]

>>10707240
> socialists don't understand what they are up against
yea they are totally in the dark have you heard about le infinity chanz xD

[Anonymous No.10710057]

>>10707865
This is true tho

[Anonymous No.10710060]

>>10707566
China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination.
>China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination.
China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination.
>China is undoubtedly positive for countries who want to exercise real self-determination.

> you'll be safe from the western monster
> safe here in my mouth

[Anonymous No.10710070]

>>10709823
She gives a pretty lucid account of online alt right figures, their history in the past 5 years, and the character of their fanbase.

Prose is easy reading. Its essentially a history/ political think piece, not a Nabokov novel.

Nagle unironically does a decent job of describing 4chan culture. Fight me

[Anonymous No.10710105]

>>10708661
I don't understand what you said. Explain further and give some examples

[Anonymous No.10710109]

>>10707137
She's a shallow thinker but she's a fit lass who spends all day wrestling with meme culture so I can't help but have a soft spot for her desu

[Anonymous No.10710117]

>>10710109
>She's a shallow thinker
I don't see this as a bad thing at all, at this point.

[Anonymous No.10710119]

>>10707116
Why are Zero Books and Mark Fisher being shilled so much here?

[Anonymous No.10710141]

>>10710117
Yeah I agree, and if only she weren't some milquetoast leftist she'd be an absolute 10.

[Anonymous No.10710143]

>>10707299
I just read this whole book tonight, I'd recommend it to everyone but I don't know if it's worth the trouble of a reading group.

[Anonymous No.10710153]

Is this some kind of shipping thread I swear just a few months back these threads would get a ton of hate, what changed?

[Anonymous No.10710157]

>>10710153
We're all communists now.

[Anonymous No.10710163]

>>10710157
Go back to 8ch

[Anonymous No.10710165]

>>10710153
leftypol probably. They idolize anybody that writes on this imprint.

[Anonymous No.10710177]

>>10708676
Abhorrent post with utter lack of reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.10710188]

>>10709823
>her prose is awful

This. I am curious what she has to say but this is already a struggle to read. I can't see it being that good, frankly.

[Anonymous No.10710196]

>>10710070
Not that anon, but I would disagree, partly because her conception of the "alt-right" is far too exhaustive and broad, and thus encompasses figures and most importantly positions that are not, in fact, alt-right. This leads to the quantitative data informing her theory becoming skewed by contamination with misinformation, and as a result an inaccurate assessment of the alt-right, and by extension /pol/, and by extension 4chan. This is evidenced by her inability to disassociate the surreal hyperbole indicative of true intentions with basic memes, conflating Gas the Kikes Race War Now attitudes which for the most part reveal genuine sincerity with frogposting. If the distinction between memery and sincere hyperbole isn't recognized, any analysis of Chan culture is doomed to fail.

[Anonymous No.10710231]

>>10710153
she's lauren southern 2.0 except (marxist) actually attractive

[Anonymous No.10710275]

>>10710196
I would argue there is little distinction between memery and sincere hyperbole. There's a thin line between ironic racism and genuine racism. Few people here hate women and niggers ironically these days

[Anonymous No.10710290]

>>10710196
>distinction between memery and sincere hyperbole isn't recognized
But this distinction is almost impossible to seperate with the anonymous nature of the website. It is like a Schrödinger's cat of sincerity and irony where the choice is based on whatever is politically convient at the time

[Anonymous No.10710309]

>>10710275
Mate you're making a point about there not being a large difference between ironic racism and genuine racism and you just used nigger in your post, proving my point. There is a significant difference, given that we so casually throw around that word on this board, yet if it was said in almost any other space we would face serious consequences. Racism on this site IS a meme, and there is a massive distinction between meme racism like calling other posters niggers, using phrases like chimping out, etc. that are overtly racist, and having alt-right viewpoints masked by ridiculous statements like GTKRWN.

[Anonymous No.10710339]

>>10710309
I genuinely hate women and niggers though

[Anonymous No.10710392]

>>10710339
Jews too

[Anonymous No.10710410]

>>10710309
I hope this thread gets transplanted to /pol/ so people like>>10710339 can tell you that you are wrong. And the best part is you can't tell who is ironic and who isn't.

[Anonymous No.10710425]

>>10710392
there are Jews who would contradict this, and the premises don't guarantee the conclusions of the argument nor does the third premise have any validity and the last part of that final premise leaves open the argument to evisceration."They have not always appreciated this" yes because many Jews didn't like insular Judaism and wanted to assimilate, many didn't want foreigners in America and many don't think blind multi-culturalism is correct

you're always trying to smuggle in your presuppositions of Jewish metaphysical evil and hatred towards them biologically into every single one of these cherry picked images

[Anonymous No.10710462]

>>10710425
>"not all x are like that"

Please leave, shlomo

[Anonymous No.10710533]

>>10710410
I'm not saying that actual racism doesn't exist on this board, retard.

[Anonymous No.10710618]

>>10710533
I never said that you said that either. I only mentioned that the seperation of these two racism is pointless

[Anonymous No.10710636]

>>10710618
Again I completely disagree. Throwing the word nigger around is not considered as indicative of actual racism in 4chan, and most everyone can discern the difference between using it as simply a derogatory term and a term specifically referencing views on race. Your argument of "Well you can't even tell of they're being serious or not" is not applicable here.

[Anonymous No.10710665]

>>10710636
>most everyone can discern the difference between using it as simply a derogatory term and a term specifically referencing views on race.
Are you for real or have you never heard of that Voltaire's quote? Ironic racism is still racism

[Anonymous No.10710691]

>>10710665
What an idiotic post. Regardless of whether you think ironic racism is racism or not, my point is still true. Throwing the word nigger around cannot be conflated with arguing for a race war. Racism is not a monolithic concept.
What aren't you getting?

[Anonymous No.10710742]

>>10710691
That it is impossible to tell those that are using nigger unironically as an allusion to more racist and those that are using ironically. Of course racism isn't monolithic, but posters can pick and choose what kind of racism they want in any thread with no consistently

[Anonymous No.10710763]

>>10710742
...Okay? Are you telling me that you can't tell the difference between me calling you a retarded nigger and me advocating for a violent fascistic revolution to create an ethnostate? I'll concede that there most definitely is a gray area at time, if that's what your arguing, but that is ultimately irrelevant to the argument.

[Anonymous No.10710789]

>>10710763
Not only does the grey area exist but the unironic racist can pretend to be ironic and vice versa if the situation calls for it

[Anonymous No.10710832]

>>10707116
I’m tempted to read this for her analysis of 4chan, but don’t want to bother with all the other crap. I’m curious on how in depth she went with her research. She cover how /pol/ turned into a hug box from 2014-2016? It used to be somewhat entertaining back when it was a joke political board, now it’s all retards and underage cancer.

>>10710742
People here use nigger solely because they’re not supposed to say it. It’s like a child thinking they’re funny for cursing when no adults are around

[Anonymous No.10711043]

>>10708435
you really need sources for backslashes from the left? it's basically the only thing they do anymore

[Anonymous No.10711049]

>>10708440
>marx threads don't live too long.
this wasn't a real marx thread, you'll see when we create a new one...

[Anonymous No.10711058]

>>10709662
they barely edit their books and just churn out shit, some of it is good, some of it is shit.

just judge the books and authors by themselves and don't randomly buy from them

[Anonymous No.10711061]

>>10711043
>my preconceptions overrides any empiricism
Beginning to suspect none exists

[Anonymous No.10711066]

>>10709823
the prose is alright. the problem is that the book probably had no editor or someone just skimmed it, as it happens with Zero books

[Anonymous No.10711071]

>>10709966
>What is it with Zero Books and allusions to popular culture? Kermit the Frog, Children of Men, Kurt Cobain...
the Zero Books editor has a youtube channel where he mostly memes, so i guess that's what he likes?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4KSOpcQMu0

[Anonymous No.10711254]

>>10709714
This is an accepted notion, try reading some Durkheim.

[Anonymous No.10711258]

>>10711254
doesn't make it any less retarded just because some plebs are gullible

[Anonymous No.10711335]

>>10711258

>it stinks
>it stinks
>it stinks

[Anonymous No.10711337]

>>10711335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtVDDk7jodc

[Anonymous No.10711490]

>>10707191
> She gets chan culture
No, she isn't, see a dozen of previous shill threads.

Or you might just happen to be a like-minded person who thinks he “gets” the “chan culture”, too.

[Anonymous No.10711511]

>>10711490
there's no need to be upset

[Anonymous No.10711515]

is she our girl?

[Anonymous No.10711617]

>>10707566
it's anti-imperialist, that's why it colonized tibet

[Anonymous No.10711622]

http://thermidormag.com/angela-nagles-wild-ride/

[Anonymous No.10711696]

>>10707566
China is colonising Australia RIGHT NOW

[Anonymous No.10711774]

>>10711617
It's why it also liberated some land from Vietnam.

[Anonymous No.10711821]

A real academic work on anonymous imageboards should be a thinly veiled retelling of a classical story filled with plausible but invented factoids from their history that somehow gives you the understanding. Also, it must be written by a computer program.

[Anonymous No.10711828]

>>10711821
In other words, one of the things Vladimir “Big Asshole” Nabokov liked so much.

[Anonymous No.10711852]

She absolutely must write a book about mass shooters and name it “Kill Some Normies”.

[Anonymous No.10711857]

>>10711696
and here's why that's a good thing

[Anonymous No.10711944]

>>10710196
>If the distinction between memery and sincere hyperbole isn't recognized

she literally makes that distinction

[Anonymous No.10712055]

>>10707191
She does not understand the Alt Right. Neither the ideas nor where it came from. I do not know anymore of her than this book but the entire book filled with straw-mans and to be honest just intellectually lazy that I would not want to know more of her. Her ignorance is all too apparent in this book.
>She gets chan culture
She most definitely does fucking not. How new are you?

[Anonymous No.10712093]

>>10712055
> implying >alt-right is something that exists, and isn't an umbrella stereotype cherished by mediaval society we live in

You most definitely doesn't fucking get it neither.

[Anonymous No.10712216]

>>10712055
she does

stay mad

[Anonymous No.10712266]

>>10712093
The term alt-right was created by the people who still call themselves alt-right. This was not something made up by mainstream media.

>>10712216
Great argument.

[Anonymous No.10712274]

>>10710665
'racism' is a moral and ideological distinction, not in any way logical, objective or philosophical. Nowadays, it's all about 'subconscious racism' and 'microagressions'. In the future, all your thoughts will be scrutinised by the bluehaired media/HR/academic caste for traces of thoughtcrime.

[Anonymous No.10712342]

>>10712055
>She does not understand the Alt Right
>>10707865
>>The alt-right is, to varying degrees, preoccupied with IQ, European demographic and civilizational decline, cultural decadence, cultural Marxism, anti-egalitarianism and Islamification but most importantly, as the name suggests, with creating an alternative to the right-wing conservative establishment, who they dismiss as ‘cuckservatives’ for their soft Christian passivity and for metaphorically cuckholding their womenfolk/nation/race to the non-white foreign invader.

[Anonymous No.10712356]

>>10712274
leftists are merely the left wing of the corporate/government establishment, their role is to drill the population into a single mass of passive consumer drones devoid of all identity. I hate how the media constantly puts trannies and such other freaks in a pedestal, these people want to be worshipped an seen as morally superior to the rest of us. As a white man, I simply can't have that. All our culture has to be reduced to an endless paean to 'equality' and pepsi. Worst of all, is the screeching victim classes and their enablers aren't even creative, YAS QUEEN SLAY queering le gender binary and all that, they are bloodless managers who see art as a purely technical administrative question. Only the sacred victimhood of the bluehaired transgenderblob is true, everything else is an evil white social construct. I think I understand why hate crimes against the lgbtsjw community are a thing.

[Anonymous No.10712421]

>>10707116
Angela is a qt

[Anonymous No.10712519]

>>10712342
What is your point? The second post only shows how she lurked on /pol/ once and thought she knew everything. This is completely false.

[Anonymous No.10712542]

>>10712519
so what is the alt right?

>>10711622
>start reading
>think this is a leftist publication
>get to the "incel" section
i guess i was wrong, that's what happens for being uneducated about french history i guess

[Anonymous No.10713063]

>>10712421

[Anonymous No.10713102]

>>10711622
This faggot writes like garbage.

Hey Kantbot. You're a faggot.

[Anonymous No.10713528]

>>10712055
>She does not understand the Alt Right. Neither the ideas nor where it came from.
I agree. She should have read more Nietzsche, then she would have realized that they as a "movement" are even uglier than she imagined.

[Anonymous No.10713687]

>>10713528
>I agree. She should have read more Nietzsche, then she would have realized that they as a "movement" are even uglier than she imagined.
t. untermensch

[Anonymous No.10713755]

>>10712356
While you're making a large number of assumptions that I'm sure we'll never agree on, I think that I understand your overall point. You are absolutely correct that leftists, and marxists especially, see all art as an administrative question. (This was historically true even of some more extreme rightwingers, but not much anymore).

The proof of this is quite simple. Open any of the popular "liberal" (i.e., cultural marxist) newsblogs, and you'll see that the only times they address art are to discuss their pseudo-sociological theories about its social effects. This is why they are so pathologically obsessed with "representation" of ethnic minorities, etc. They truly believe (due to their religion, cultural marxism) that if art does not serve what they conceive to be the cause, then it must be denigrated. The explicitly reject the notion of apolitical art, or of purely aesthetic values.

So they are forced by their own dialectic to relegate the matter to the administration. The precise same thing happened in the Soviets, for only slightly different reasons (instead of "white males", capitalist imperialists). The methods and results, however, are more or less indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.10713814]

>>10713755
>unironically using the phrase "cultural marxism"
Can you pseuds please get the fuck off my board?

[Anonymous No.10713850]

>>10710275
>Few people here hate women and niggers ironically these days
those of us who have embraced the post-sincerity of nuchan have left unironic racism in the dust, we are doing things for teh lulz once again only this time in secret, with only a few subtle hints to signal each other our trollish intent. We are not legion, we are just one person behind a computer screen and we probably know you in real life and you will never find out who we are
chanology was the heresy, this is the reformation. Open your eyes, or be left behind

[Anonymous No.10714768]

>>10713687
More like
t. guy who actually reads on a literature board

You assholes should fuck off back to your hivemind board. Regardless of the accuracy of some of the things the board pushes, it is no better than the leftist street mobs where no one thinks for themselves and everyone is whining. It's the same thing but congregating on a sub-forum of a website.

[Anonymous No.10715365]

>>10713814

[Anonymous No.10715414]

>>10709662
Just google "zero books" and explore the scam that they are. Lots of unhappy writers out there.

[Anonymous No.10715450]

>>10713814
"Cultural Marxism" is a pseud term but that doesn't mean the cultural influence of Critical Theory, Post-Structuralism and Marxism itself hasn't been significant in advancing social justice ideology (oftentimes through SJWs misinterpreting and abusing these ideas, see Foucault).
>>10712274
>HR caste
It's good you mentioned that because I feel this is a point many are overlooking. The social justice assault on free expression and its destruction of classical left wing politics (which were dead in the water after 1991 anyway, let's be real) is often blamed on academics, however, these academics only dominate in certain fields (I'm sure in the post-Trump era this is changing as politicization of campuses intensifies and dissent against the mainstream of socially progressive discourse becomes an ostracize-able offense). What's been overlooked is the absolute dominance of this ideology in Social Work, HR and anything related to university administration. Many of the most committed "SJWs" are university administrators, who while lacking the zeal of naive millennial activists enforce a new code that is a soulless and banal neoliberalism guided by radical cultural critiques (Queer Theory, CRT, etc.) that have seeped their way into the mainstream of academic thought. Disagreeing with the assertions of those schools is equated with criticizing their right to exist, hence why you won't find many profound critiques of queer theory from professors you might expect to write them because it is out of line with the new neoliberal-idpol order, held up by aggressive students willing to use radical actions like public shaming and boycotting (social media has drastically increased the transformative potential of these methods) to enforce their collective safe space.

[Anonymous No.10715473]

>>10715450
There is no "social justice assault." It's just a bunch of edgy college kids who won't have any influence on politics and shouldn't be taken seriously.

[Anonymous No.10715477]

>>10715414
Why would I trust Google to give me accurate information on a publisher who publishes books criticizing capitalism?

[Anonymous No.10715485]

>>10715473
have you been in an undergrad institution in the past five years anon?

[Anonymous No.10715488]

>>10715450
Yeah, HR departments tend to be a hive of the people you talk about. No wonder the Weisenstein case blew up so badly.

>>10715473
Oh, it's good to see how you always keep saying that. Unfortunately, fucking everyone knows that's not true - those university educated kids are going to form the elite of society and really do want to be taken seriously as critics of it regardless of whatever you may think. Those peope have already destroyed academic career after career, the only way to get rid of them is to throw down the gauntlet and face them head on, which is what Jordan Peterson did right, regardless of his other merits. Have you ever taken a look at the hellhole of Left Twitter?

http://www.thenorthstar.info/2013/11/22/exiting-the-vampire-castle/

[Anonymous No.10715491]

>>10715473
and it's almost like you didn't read my post when I specifically said the students are simply the naive agents and the administrators are the source of the problem

[Anonymous No.10715498]

>>10715473
You're wrong

[Anonymous No.10715502]

>>10710196
>but I would disagree, partly because her conception of the "alt-right" is far too exhaustive and broad, and thus encompasses figures and most importantly positions that are not, in fact, alt-right
It's almost like it's a nebulous term applied post-facto to create the basis for a hyperbolic media narrative

[Anonymous No.10715512]

>>10715473
There is. Since the 60's at least.

[Anonymous No.10715514]

>>10715485
Yes. Last time I checked an undergraduate institution is filled with edgy college students who haven't found their place in the world yet. How does this refute my post?

[Anonymous No.10715582]

>>10715512
The full on death drive nihilism of 60s radicals was actually aesthetic af, I wanna turn back the clock, I want to transfigure daily life into 24/7 gotterdamerung. Charlie Manson is the true and only revolutionary spokesman of the turned-on counterculture youth of America.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n1J9Migw-zQ

[Anonymous No.10715593]

>>10715514
>It's just a bunch of edgy college kids who won't have any influence on politics and shouldn't be taken seriously.
There has been a serious shift in the past decade of how dominant and vocal student activism is on many campuses, and to think that the students who attend prestigious institutions "won't have any influence on politics and shouldn't be taken seriously," is seriously retarded, especially as they emerge as the dominant force in new media fueled by social media. If that's the case at your school it's probably because it's a shitty school. I'm not sure if the "hurr you become more conservative as you age" is going to apply to the echochamber generation, particularly as dissent against the mainstream like I said before is not tolerated (see the policy of social media companies as to what qualifies as "hate speech," those social media companies are filled with the type of people you dismiss as "edgy students." Those edgy students are becoming administrators in tech, business and universities, not to mention exerting enormous political influence. I'm honestly scared af of my generation, I feel like we don't carry any of the stigma of totalitarianism so we have forgotten the importance of classical liberal values. I honestly wish you were right dude.

[Anonymous No.10715605]

>>10715582
u shud watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQcB95HJ8kg

[Anonymous No.10715619]

>>10715605
>tfw this video just made me realized that Nick Land is basically an updated Badiou in his sinophilia except crazier
also tits on youtube, nice!

[Anonymous No.10715778]

>>10715582
>a bunch of fucking whacked out marijuana tooting loser NEETs with a penchant for glorifying anarchist violence
>aesthetic af
No. And it's not all just those hippies. It's also seedy academicians with a lot of bullshit to say about everything, publishing their own garbage books and forcing students to read it as part of the curriculum.

Check out this thread from just a day ago:
>>10695980

[Anonymous No.10715801]

>>10709891
too bad they have zero creativity and resort to just stealing ideas wholesale from western nations

[Anonymous No.10715819]

>>10710462
you didn't refute him.

[Anonymous No.10715831]

>>10715801
Yeah, yeah. Chinks are le soulless right? Even though they had a merit-based bureaucracy for millenia, had the Four Great Inventions, stole all of the West's (except Germany's) industry under its nose, had a better standard of living than the west until the 19th century, and so on. The Chinese's only fault is that they are very skittish about any sort of institution that is independent or autonomous from the state (and which are the lifeblood of liberal democracy), but we'll see if their corporatism can solve that.

[Anonymous No.10715843]

>>10715831
...please read history.

[Anonymous No.10715849]

>>10715843
Make me.

[Anonymous No.10715854]

>>10715801
>>10715831
The Chinese have great potential. But the amount of control that the Party exercises over their society is truly frightful to me as a westerner. I understand they've had a unique history and the commies were probably better than the warlords, but what's to say the horrors of the maoist period won't return? I don't mean to say the US doesn't have authoritarian, imperialistic rulers too -- but Xi is almost like a God. It's not the kind of society I think most anons would be comfortable in. I don't think the Party would tolerate a Chinese 4chan.

[Anonymous No.10715866]

>>10715843
what did he say that’s wrong? you mad?

[Anonymous No.10715869]

>>10715831
>Chinks are le soulless right?
They are compared to various European, American and Japanese cultures.

[Anonymous No.10715885]

>>10715831
everyone said the same shit about the japanese in the 80s, but "this time is different", yeah, i fell for the china meme in college, spent a ton of time studying it, but as the years went by a noticed that i could never find really high performing chinese stocks to invest in, if the chinese economy is so damn unstoppable where is the chinese amazon, google or facebook? the only way chinese internet companies can survive is by banning western internet companies, everyone talks about how baidu is the chinese google, yeah, do you know anyone who isn't chinese who uses baidu? they can't compete without protectionism and undervaluing their currency

[Anonymous No.10715888]

>>10715854
Ever heard about something called a Human Flesh Search Engine?

>>10715869
Yeah, just like the Irish were basically third-worlder white niggers, until suddenly they weren't. Or like the Vietnamese were a bunch of les jaunes, just before the French got BTFO at Dien Bien Phu.

[Anonymous No.10715895]

>>10715885
Amazon.

[Anonymous No.10715897]

>>10715869
>the Japanese
lol at you
>Americans
jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.10715903]

>>10715888
checked
but no
the wiki article is vague, some kind of weird chink anonymous knock-off? the difference I think is that anonymous can call the CIA spooks niggers and openly proclaim against the federal government: if a chinese guy does that they end up suicided

[Anonymous No.10715908]

>>10715897
What's culture to you? How many industrial factories per square mile a people can cram in? How much money they can pool together and do nothing with?

[Anonymous No.10715911]

>>10715885
Is Japan not a rich nation? The only thing that really hampers the Japanese are a lack of natural resources, but China is huge, and has a huge population, though they'll have to do something about those hundred million surplus men thanks to the one child policy. You sure as shit don't need a Facebook or a Google to project power, and either way those things take time.

[Anonymous No.10715912]

>>10715888
>but the irish

show me the irish ceos in silicon valley? the irish bankers on wall st? the irish entrepreneurs founding fortune 500 companies? the irish just used thuggish tribal unions and voting blocs to take over the public sector jobs in the northeast, sure u can't get a job at the fire department if u don't have some irish blood, but that's not some brilliant accomplishment

[Anonymous No.10715932]

>>10715911
how many chinese investment do you have? all these "zomg china's gonna roll us!" fags never put their money were there mouth is, which is why i disregard them

[Anonymous No.10715934]

>>10715908
Pride in your nation and a sense of destiny would be basic building blocks of it.

>>10715912
Say no more.

[Anonymous No.10715950]

>>10715934
>Pride in your nation and a sense of destiny would be basic building blocks of it.
So China's culture just has the basic building blocks? A building needs more than a foundation to be called a building. What "destiny" do the Chinese think they possess, anyway? If they even have dreams of any kind besides making even more factories, they do an incredible job at keeping them hidden to everyone.

[Anonymous No.10715959]

>>10715934
well i must say my mind is relatively blown, i know irish do be gettin money on wall st. since steve bannon and phil murphy are goldman associates, but i figured there'd be way more wasps, i always wondered how all the dudes in american psycho are catholics, i'm like shouldn't these guys be wasps? apparently ellis was on point

[Anonymous No.10715965]

>>10715959
The irish-anglo-jew is actually the final redpill: the white amerimutt.

[Anonymous No.10715968]

>>10715959
The WASP elite of America is fucking dead. Bush Jr was their dying gasp, and he was a born again evangelical and a fucking neocon tool anyway.

[Anonymous No.10715969]

>>10715965
wait another generation and hindus gonna be all up in the mix too

[Anonymous No.10715971]

>>10715968
Down here in Texas the WASPs are holding onto power just fine.

[Anonymous No.10715972]

>>10715968
its not at all they control most of the global wealth in conjunction with the Han, Jews have less than half as much wealth as the WASP’s and Germanics. You’re just fucking retarded and lazy

[Anonymous No.10715973]

>>10715968
and don't forget jeb converted to catholicism and married a mexican, maybe he thought it would make him more electorally competitive in a "changing america" but that appears to have been a serious miscalculation

[Anonymous No.10715977]

>>10715969
i would breed with a QT indian girl, they are indo-aryans and therefore WHITE

[Anonymous No.10715981]

>>10715969
The hindus are already one of the highest earning minorities of America, they've barely set foot on the USA and they've nearly achieved Jew levels of power. They'll never be culturally very influent, though, they lack the messianic component to be.

[Anonymous No.10715984]

>>10715972
the thing is wasps have this weird reclusiveness, they don't like to show off their money, to be flashy and sensuous is too mediterranean, too catholic, so there's probably a bunch of old wasps money just sitting in trusts cranking out income that no one even heard of, meanwhile they let the rightwing jews take all the heat for globalization's excess

[Anonymous No.10715987]

>>10715981
>hindus won't be culturally influent
>every white girl in the city goes to yoga three times a week

depends on what u mean i suppose

[Anonymous No.10715992]

>>10715987
Eh, that was already something of the counterculture and its jacking off of Eastern mysticism.

[Anonymous No.10715996]

>>10715984
this
trump was ultimately a WASP campaign: perhaps the most brilliant piece of political savagery ever conceived

[Anonymous No.10716019]

>>10715965
>the amerimutt

u know i was thinking about all these shootings and as a good american i had to just take a minute to enjoy the diversity of our mass spree killers, we've had whites, asians, hispanics, arabs, pakistanis, blacks if u count that dude who went ham in houston, also neurodiversity with some autists and schizos in the mix, also no agism, as the most affective shooter of all time was a retirement age boomer

[Anonymous No.10716023]

>>10715996
>trump was ultimately a WASP campaign
Hillary was a Methodist preacher (and probably a Dominionist to boot), Trump isn't even religious (which causes no end of butthurt in religious conservatives, as now they have nowhere to go).

>>10716019
A riceburner boomer too.

[Anonymous No.10716029]

>>10716023
*is considering becoming a preacher

[Anonymous No.10716030]

>>10716023
Pence and Kelly, the most powerful men in the administration, are WASPs. They'll win re-election too, mark my words.

>>10716019
The newsblogs will waste no time contextualizing it as crazy whiteboy crime though. Too bad, people ought to appreciate this diversity more.

[Anonymous No.10716046]

>>10715984
>>10715996
Trump was backed largely by deracinated Jews (Schwartzman, Feinberg, Peterson) and WASP-Germanic elites like that Natural Gas Fracking retard Deason and the other idiot from Oklahoma City, Mercer, Murdoch, Beal etc it was really a push back against the more liberal clique of socially conscious Libs like Buffet and Soros than anything else. I wouldn't call it a white identity movement but an elite caucasoid consciousness movement as Jews are obviously not whites by any means but there are Jews who don't want to help, even if perniciously, the brown hordes. My issue is with this constant posturing from /pol/ and the right that Jews literally control global wealth when this is empirically, and rationally, simply untrue and a sort of grey propaganda. The Left has been emasculated semi-permanently and exposed for being LARP'ing stooges for Soros and the other global village advocates. There is however another clique of elites who align right who are cynically exploiting this revealing blunder on the "left"'s part which is troubling to me. I don't know what Theil-Feinberg-Schwartzman-Murdoch want exactly but its very likely not in any of our interests at all as techne becomes a more viable form of slave than bug masses. Trump was a ruse, but an understandable one, which was in some ways good for us all. It hardened the people who were aware of what kind of casino we were in already and has awoken the Left to its contradictions. The next stage will be trying to reconcile the new understanding of biology and culture with a disdain for Capital. I don't know if this can come from /pol/. They have routinely supported legislation and social changes that would only consolidate the power of an elite who don't give a fuck about blaqs and gays and have no issue with treating humans like cattle any more than the Soros clique do. Its really sad either way knowing that all of this information would have been easy to spread and discuss on /pol/ just 5 years ago

[Anonymous No.10716117]

>>10716046
What do you think happens when automation gets into full swing? I'm not convinced that american society can handle the dual shocks of AI-enabled amateur social engineering and unemployment from self-driving vehicles and hyper-efficiency.

[Anonymous No.10716219]

>>10716117
You have no idea what automation is or how it's implemented. It's already into full swing, but it still takes hundreds of manhours to get an automated plant online.

[Anonymous No.10716227]

>>10716219
you know what I mean: all of the court-philosophers and newsblogs are preaching the good word that jobs are about to start disappearing

[Anonymous No.10716277]

>>10711622
Kantbot's a fucking autist but this is a great article, sums up a lot about "chan culture" that's otherwise hard to put into words

[Anonymous No.10716405]

>>10715450
>is often blamed on academics, however, these academics only dominate in certain fields
>What's been overlooked is the absolute dominance of this ideology in Social Work, HR and anything related to university administration
from which academic field do you think those people are staffed? specially social work and education are a timebomb waiting to blow up society from inside

[Anonymous No.10716421]

>>10715488
>http://www.thenorthstar.info/2013/11/22/exiting-the-vampire-castle/
not talking about you, but why do old school leftists like Mark Fisher so much? I keep hearing him mentioned, I watched some of his talks and the guy is alright, but i haven't heard him say anything groundbreaking, are the standards of the left that low in the current year?

[Anonymous No.10716432]

>>10715502
>It's almost like it's a nebulous term applied post-facto to create the basis for a hyperbolic media narrative
artificially created categories can still solidify, the same way the media and academia has spent so much effort creating this box called "white people", pushing people into in, and then applying the label "bad". It's very easy to certain elements on the extreme right to convince people that the label "bad" should be changed to the label "good" than if they had to put the work to create the box in the first place and to push people into it

[Anonymous No.10716438]

>>10715514
>Yes. Last time I checked an undergraduate institution is filled with edgy college students who haven't found their place in the world yet. How does this refute my post?
the difference is that in the past the teachers and administrators would have called them retards and kept going with their jobs, now instead they join in and push their delusion.

The problem aren't students.

[Anonymous No.10716496]

>>10707334
>whose dark humor and love of transgression for its own sake
No, not trasgression. One does not flee to the land of the lawless in order to break the law. One does not escape North Korea's labour camps with the purposes off being an edgy transgressive contrarian. Here be freedom and emancipation, not transgression. Not surprising that white Twitter pundits like Nagle don't understand the first thing of it. North American education is very effective, in fact increasingly more efficient, in creating yet another generation of utter reductionist idiots, with no lateral thinking or ability to self-criticize to save their lives.
>made it hard to know what political views were genuinely held
Maybe because there are no views that are genuinely held in the current year. You tell a pollster you vote Obama will close Guantanamo and not set North Africa and the Middle East on fire, or that Trump will MAGA and build a wall and make Mexico pay for it with the same sincerity you tell a child that Santa Claus exists, because pollsters and Nagle are indeed children that do think Santa Claus exists.
>>10707865
>>10708266
>>10710057
>>10712342
But how could she forget anti-semitism in her depiction of the alt-right as a united front with no differences or discrepancies? I know you're here, Angela, grow the fuck up and out of your categorizing thought, it's an ideological pair of blinders that prevents understanding. Then again you don't want to understand, you need an in-group out-group rhetoric just like the non-old left you supposedly criticize. You need someone to blame for Clinton's defeat and you cannot allow any of your sacred cows to be the guilty party, or otherwise primum movens of your manifold oppositions. Because there is nothing more 21st century marxist than to explain the US mainstream party landscape with a book on an insignificant, fragmentary "alt-right", and a pair of international websites yelling at one another, right? "An old leftist’s idea of what a young leftist should be." So old. So leftist.
>>10707926
>who had gravitated towards AnonOps IRCs suffered from a degree of state spying and repression during the height of Anonymous’s public profile from around 2010 to 2012. This absence of the more libertarian left-leaning element within chan culture created a vacuum in the image boards
Making shit up as usual. Our dumb broad here seems to think 1337 haxx0rz as true believer activists, instead of entertaining the notion that people could simply have a desire to give other people shit. She's been indoctrinated to see American democrats and republicans everywhere, incapable of understanding how international the people using this website are, particularly when "operations" and hackers and the illegal would be involved. She's worthless.
>>10710290
>It is like a Schrödinger's cat of sincerity and irony where the choice is based on whatever is politically convient at the time
Welcome to 21st century "genuinely held views."

[Anonymous No.10716511]

>>10716496
>meaningless nitpicking about irrelevant details
alrighty then, you tried i guess

[Anonymous No.10716596]

>>10716496
>gets upset that Nagle doesn't understand the distinctions within the alt-right
>Claims she cares deeply about Clinton's defeat

>Welcome to 21st century "genuinely held views."
No, this isn't something happening beyond 4chan. Only the anonymity and lack of archive can allows for such a thing to happen

[Anonymous No.10716608]

>>10707191
But /pol/ is retarded

[Anonymous No.10716614]

>>10713687
t. untermensch

[Anonymous No.10716621]

>>10715801
The chinks literally own part of Australia, canada, africa and are buying American companies every week

[Anonymous No.10716626]

>>10715885
>where is the chinese amazon
Alibaba. and they're buying land and companies in other countries rapidly

[Anonymous No.10716682]

>>10716511
Butthurt.
>>10716596
>Claims she cares deeply about Clinton's defeat
She's still using her Twitter account to give shit to Bernie and his supporters in real time, she's so not over it. Remember kids: the Sacred Cow cannot be criticized, people must not know that coloring the world in Pepe across all media wasn't the best possible strategy, and that democrats are fucking idiots.
>Only the anonymity and lack of archive can allows for such a thing to happen
Did I mention I and others wore an I'm With Her shirt and other tribal markings in order to protect ourselves from the Gleichschaltung, while voting for the other guy? Oh, and Santa Claus doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.10716794]

>>10716682
giving support to Bernie doesn't mean she gives a shit about Clinton's defeat dumbass

>Did I mention I and others wore an I'm With Her shirt and other tribal markings in order to protect ourselves from the Gleichschaltung,
Your fictional examples, that is not what I meant if you read up the reply chain

[Anonymous No.10716799]

>>10716682
>She's still using her Twitter account to give shit to Bernie and his supporters in real time
if that's what you take from that tweet, you are more retarded than i thought. are you unironically an amerimutt?

[Anonymous No.10716853]

>>10716794
>>10716799
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10716866]

>>10716853
are you mad?

t. none of them

[Anonymous No.10716905]

>>10716866
amerimutt detected

[Anonymous No.10716916]

>>10716905
norwegian actually, America is a clownfest and I'm enjoying the spectacle from afar

[Anonymous No.10716950]

>>10716853
Are you? Can you even read?

[Anonymous No.10717076]

>>10716950
So mad.

[Anonymous No.10717257]

is nagle a brocialist or alt-right i mean is there even a difference at this point

[Anonymous No.10717262]

>>10717257
>Gaelic reactionary
New Florentine Reactionarism when?

[Anonymous No.10717263]

>>10717257
she has said that the alt-right program would lead to genocidal consequences, so that is a difference i guess

[Anonymous No.10717291]

>>10717263
but this doesnt make the alt-right upset in the slightest otherwise they wouldnt be interacting with her like goobergate idolized based mom sommers and speaking of sommers and genocide take a good look at pic related
this and many more tweets of her might as well have been sent by alt-right sympathizing brocialists or brocialists sympathizing the alt-right
wont somebody think of the white children and who needs freedom anyway amirite
and why are all the assholes saying the same shit oooooh nevermind now i get it it all makes sense

[Anonymous No.10717304]

>>10717291
That means nothing, you are just saying that having some beliefs opposite to the alt-right doesn't make them mad.

Who gets mad at you is not a barometer of political stance. By that standard leftist antifa university protesters are also alt-right because Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor love what they are doing.

[Anonymous No.10717307]

>>10717291
except that is obviously a jab at liberalism from a socialist position. Even if it's against freedom it's still a "left wing" position. "Everything I don't like is fascism" gets old after a while.

[Anonymous No.10717324]

>>10717304
cant you see the difference between beating up literal nazis and repeating their slogans and concern trolling antifa
maybe if your so called opposition love so much that if they could choose their opposition they would choose you youre doing it wrong
>>10717307
she is definitely flirting with the wrong crowd and hasnt figured it out just yet

[Anonymous No.10717356]

Can someone who's actually read it comment on whether it's an objective and insightful attempt at documenting the internet, or whether it's just another divisive mouthpiece?

[Anonymous No.10717358]

>>10717324
i mean i agree with you that we will have that qt valkyrie among our reactionary ranks soon, but it's all thanks to people like you :3

[Anonymous No.10717362]

>>10711254
Try taking the cock out of your mouth, faggot.

[Anonymous No.10717365]

>>10717356
it's written from an old leftist point of view, i liked the book, it's not interested in internet culture in general but in the different forces that influenced the culture wars

she obviously has to drop some nuance to write a comprehensible text but i'd say it's more or less objective in the descriptive parts, as much as objective means anything, and it's leftist in the conclusions she draws from there but that's clearly where she stands

[Anonymous No.10717373]

‘Alt-right’ has absolutely no meaning, like most communist buzzwords. It’s used on everyone from Joe Rogan to Vladimir Putin.

[Anonymous No.10717383]

>>10717373
See
>>10707865
If you fit the description above, you're alt-right.

[Anonymous No.10717392]

>>10717383
That’s one person’s definition. I’m saying it’s used so loosely and sladerously that it has no real meaning. If somebody is labelled ‘alt-right’ they could be a thousand different things depending on the leftist zeal of the accuser. It’s become a bogeyman term. It’s going to be ‘there’s an alt-righter under every bed’ hysteria soon.

[Anonymous No.10717414]

>>10717358
not like she didnt have a choice to end up there but at this point id prefer it if she continued to follow the example of her fellow brocialist mark fisher all the way
hogwarts is always in need of fewer voldemort apologists so good riddance

[Anonymous No.10717415]

>>10707221
yeah, why shouldn't it be? It's on myanonamouse

[Anonymous No.10717432]

>hogwarts is always in need of fewer voldemort apologists so good riddance
jesus christ dude

[Anonymous No.10717434]

>>10717414
you seem to know the guy, did Mark Fisher do anything of interest beyond the vampire castle meme?

[Anonymous No.10717448]

>>10717356
Did you read the thread? It's not another divisive mouthpiece and is a fairly objective and accurate description of internet culture.

She's been called right-wing and reactionary by leftists. Listen to her talks on youtube. You don't really need to read the book.

[Anonymous No.10717452]

>>10717434
no i was thinking of the brocialist asshole committing suicide well he kind of asked for it with calling activism some gothic horror thing

[Anonymous No.10717454]

Nagle is Nazbol.

[Anonymous No.10717471]

>>10717414
>hogwarts is always in need of fewer voldemort apologists so good riddance
Do you actually use these terms to think about politics, or is this just a ruse?

[Anonymous No.10717577]

>>10717291
>brocialists
I want a firefox addon that trasforms "brocialists" in "actual socialists"

[Anonymous No.10717646]

>>10717471
you get what i mean to achieve its goals the left needs the white house and as few obstacles in the way as possible
>>10717577
if brocialism is what actual socialism is supposed to like then america doesnt need it
because nothing says actual socialism like going on television to say you would vote drumpf like zizek did how short-sighted must you be not to see hes the greater evil
i wonder why he attracts those types so much with all those walls and wars and his fight against healthcare always wasting congress and everybodys time
but maybe bernie bros and strasserites like molesters so much because they are frustrated and realized the memes of reproduction werent going to seize themselves
and now their alt-right friends are leaving their basements and going outside because this is exactly the kind of movement that we needed right
there are people right now that think they will stop calling karl marx as an enemy and make him a hero as if this was possible in america

[Anonymous No.10717661]

>>10707566
>The Tibetans aren't being replaced as we speak
Hahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.10718386]

>>10717452
>activism
>a bunch of queers and faggots jerking each other off in their echo chambers and engaging in the most vicious cliquish behaviour imaginable is "activism"
HAHAHAHA
I sincerely hope to god the Left just keeps purity spiraling into oblivion.

[Anonymous No.10718461]

>>10717646
>if brocialism is what actual socialism is supposed to like then america doesnt need it
Yeah, america needs a nuke, maybe it will then stop poisoning every single ideological movement.

[Anonymous No.10718464]

>>10718386
i guess they'll realize at some point, i mean not amerimutt leftists but the leftists in europe seem to be slowly catching up to their own retardation

[Anonymous No.10718494]

>>10718464
americans are most often single issue voters, which means that one amerimutt's 'leftism' isn't even really comparable to another person's 'rightism'

[Anonymous No.10718513]

>>10707116
the only thing worse than this book is the faggots on here saying its good

[Anonymous No.10718569]

>>10718513
it's an essay about a very trivial thing, not quantum physics, you don't need a genius to write a book like this, but that doesn't make the book bad.

[Anonymous No.10718574]

>>10718569
you also dont need to be a genius to go on buzzfeed and watch videos of women painting with their period blood or CNN to get a great video about how Pepe is a nazi symbol to get exactly the same content

[Anonymous No.10718593]

>go to college
>experience no SJW hivemind cultural marxist jewish propaganda
>get discriminated as a fag
>wish I lived in the anglo world where my biggest problem in life is being mad at Critical Theory

[Anonymous No.10719276]

>>10718593
tbhh I have become more homophobic over time, thanks to my experiences with that awful, politically correct community. They are invariably highly disturbed and ideological, a sect under the influence of a few powerful 'queer theory' professors. They don't have 'sex', they virtue signal and engage in shrill politically correct activities at the behest of the aformentioned cultural marxist academics.

[Anonymous No.10719287]

>>10719276
i doubt you've ever taken a college class in ur life, fuck off basement dweller

[Anonymous No.10719330]

>>10707116
>the book of our generation?

THAT'S NOT ''SIEGE'', FAGGOT!

[Anonymous No.10719334]

>>10715414
care to provide details? i don't see any negative press

[Anonymous No.10719356]

>>10719287
what kind of bigoted chud will dare begrudge such a moving display of progress and diversity? ugh. I bet these hicks haven't even read foucault. the lgbt community is so noble and vibrant.

[Anonymous No.10719379]

>>10719287
he's right tho, it's a tendency I've struggled with in myself as well

[Anonymous No.10720277]

I'm watching a video of the author on youtube. She's qt as fuck. Are there any podcasts with her on them? Why haven't Joe Rogan or Dave Rubin had her on their podcast?

[Anonymous No.10720579]

>>10717383
that's a spooky definition comrade, almost like it was arbitrarily defined by one person

[Anonymous No.10720599]

>>10719287
he obviously sees the world through a paranoid prism but you're in a bubble yourself my dude

[Anonymous No.10720620]

>>10717414
>>10717646
you better be b8in us m8 because this is too good to be real

[Anonymous No.10720767]

Can’t wait for Michael malice’s book on the new right

[Anonymous No.10721380]

>>10707191
>why /pol/ emerged
Does she know about the stormfront infiltration? If not then the book is partial and completely uninformed.

[Anonymous No.10722442]

>>10707388
I hope this is bait for yr own sake anon

[Anonymous No.10722478]

>>10720277
Dave Rubin only has boring centrists on his podcast, Joe Rogan would probably be open to it if someone pushed for it

[Anonymous No.10722480]

>>10721380
that's irrelevant, forces pushing propaganda happens all the time, the interesting part is why the propaganda works when most of the time it fails. That opening that allows the propaganda to work is what's interesting