/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10702397]

>a-anon... the canon... s-save... the... canon... uh... c-cervan... tes... a-anon...

[Anonymous No.10702406]

>>10702397
I will, father. I will.

[Anonymous No.10702412]

Right in the feels, anon.

[Anonymous No.10702414]

Tes canon? But what about muh c0da?

[Anonymous No.10702432]

[Anonymous No.10702443]

>>10702432
What is that expression trying to convey?

[Anonymous No.10702446]

>>10702443
>god damn i wish i wasn't so old fuck

[Anonymous No.10702447]

>>10702443
The horror at what he failed to stop

[Anonymous No.10702452]

you just know there's a horde of autistic marxist professors just waiting for him to die.

[Anonymous No.10702458]

>>10702443
He always looks like that. Disdain for plebs now mixed in with feeling old.

[Anonymous No.10702461]

>>10702458
now that's a reaction image

[Anonymous No.10702471]

>>10702452
I unironically think about taking up the mantle of Bloom and shilling for the canon sometimes

[Anonymous No.10702478]

>>10702471
if i succeed in my ambitions to become a professor i intend to do the same. i think there's a lot of people coming up that agree with him, but don't have the stature to be relevant yet.

[Anonymous No.10702488]

>>10702471
I will be there at the barricade along with you, brother or sister. Let the canon bloom.

[Anonymous No.10702490]

>>10702471
>>10702478
Same

[Anonymous No.10702497]

>>10702458
he just looks like a kike snob holding in a fart in this
>>10702432
here it looks like hes staring into the abyss

[Anonymous No.10702500]

>>10702471
Taking the mantle of Bloom isn't easy. He was a genius and had an incredibly vast erudition and even him couldn't stop the school of resentment. Also you must be a grumpy old democrat which is impossible to do with the state of the current left.

[Anonymous No.10702507]

>>10702500
We are all gonna make it

[Anonymous No.10702516]

I could continue the canon other than bloom is interily boring and Id get nothing creative out of it

[Anonymous No.10702521]

>>10702500
While I doubt that any of us are as smart as Bloom alone, as a collective of people who share views similar to him rise, they will find power together. The road there will be perilous however.

[Anonymous No.10702528]

Can some one post the image of him fading away

[Anonymous No.10702540]

>>10702471
>>10702478
>>10702488
>>10702490
>tfw /lit/ is literally collectively inheriting the mantle after Bloom

[Anonymous No.10702541]

>>10702478
>>10702490
Yeah that's what I meant
I'm a freshman in college but if I do end up becoming a professor like I've been thinking about I'd definitely try and have my students develop an appreciation for the canon.

[Anonymous No.10702551]

For the Canon, brethren, we shall fight!

[Anonymous No.10702554]

>>10702521
Are we strong enough to defeat the school of ressentiment though?

[Anonymous No.10702568]

>>10702554
Defeat it entirely? I doubt it. But we can contain it, because I think Bloom's position is one that most people would identify with. Excellence trumps "equality" every time.

[Anonymous No.10702569]

>>10702540
Honestly I doubt all of /lit/ has read as much as Bloom alone, and surely not even half as deeply. It’s a nice goal though.

[Anonymous No.10702577]

>>10702569
If this were an anime Bloom would be the wizened master who knows the secret knowledge but is too frail to fight while /lit/ would be the plucky young hero whose heart is in the right place even if he lacks experience

[Anonymous No.10702582]

>>10702569
I think the depth of his reading is very important to the admiration he garners, but I think the most important factor is his opposition to debasing art.

[Anonymous No.10702585]

>>10702569
Never underestimate /lit/. Just look at the recent existential novel we wrote in a day.

[Anonymous No.10702587]

>>10702452
As a Marxist, I don't see why there's anything wrong with the literary canon. I'm not really sure how Marxism became a force in literary criticism, instead of, you know, economic sociology or something, or if it's just a bunch of Foucault post-communists. Anyway, it's doubtful whether academic Marxism is a positive force, it seems to me that Harvey is the only genuine one.

[Anonymous No.10702591]

>>10702471
>currently taking a deep dive in Classic Greek tragedy
We will finish what he started.

[Anonymous No.10702598]

>>10702577
No, we’d be the comic relief friend of the hero who can’t get a girl because he keeps mentioning that he won’t read niggers or women. Do you even browze /lit/? Come on

[Anonymous No.10702603]

>>10702568
Why contain it? Let it spill over in the schools and universities, let the classics pile up in the bonfires.

[Anonymous No.10702613]

>>10702541
hahahaha

[Anonymous No.10702619]

>>10702554
>Are we strong enough to defeat the school of ressentiment though?

Why defeat it? Accelerate it so it eats itself.

[Anonymous No.10702620]

>>10702577
>It's like in an anime when a farmer boy pulls a sword from a rock
>And there's a labyrinth and a minotaur in it, you know, like an anime

[Anonymous No.10702622]

>>10702603
They'll have to throw me on the pyre with it. The burning of books is the ultimate degeneracy (damn /pol/ for co-opting this term).

[Anonymous No.10702625]

>>10702620
I don't even watch anime senpai chill the fuck out

[Anonymous No.10702639]

>he will die in your lifetime

[Anonymous No.10702643]

>>10702619
I think there's more to be gained by fighting them.

[Anonymous No.10702646]

>>10702397
your time is over, old man
I AM THE CANON NOW

[Anonymous No.10702650]

>>10702585
Can you please link it, anon? I remember seeing the thread but then forgot about it.

[Anonymous No.10702654]

>>10702650
>>10693481
It's not officially finished though. OP died and someone else will probably take up the publishing touched.

[Anonymous No.10702664]

>>10702587
It's not even Marxists. It's intersectional feminists and critical race theorists. This what one of them told me "the problem with the Canon is that it was assembled by old men. Usually white. Usually conservative".
They're like fascists but with white males instead of Jews.

[Anonymous No.10702676]

>>10702664
They see literature as a means to a political end, and the Canon as a tool to further their ends.

[Anonymous No.10702709]

>>10702432
>Peter, why are we filming my scenes first?

[Anonymous No.10702735]

>>10702664
>Usually conservative
Not while they lived, though.

[Anonymous No.10702746]

>>10702664
The weird thing is that even if they are doing their "job" and trying to deconstruct the Western canon so as to prove some kind of hegemonic white male propaganda, how the hell is the story of Don Quixote, or the Iliad designed to further white male privilege?

I mean, a noble lie from a politicians' mouth might do that, but a fictional story of hundreds of pages of immense depth and creativity?

Bitch please.

[Anonymous No.10702747]

>>10702735
Yeah obviously.

[Anonymous No.10702867]

>>10702654
Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.10702887]

Post non-academics who defended the canon
Pic related
Not being a professor is not a excuse

[Anonymous No.10702889]

>>10702664
The sad thing is most people who are, or will become, lifelong readers (solitary readers as bloom call them) are avoiding lit courses intersectionalist. At least the handful that I know.

[Anonymous No.10702908]

>>10702664
The sad thing is most people who are, or will become, lifelong readers (solitary readers as bloom calls them) are avoiding lit courses beacuse of intersectionalists. At least the handful that I know.

[Anonymous No.10702918]

>>10702397
I know Bloom is in poor health but is there any chance he could be interviewed about Jordan Peterson?

[Anonymous No.10702927]

>not Lusiads
>Lusiads who?
exactly
Cervantes isn't exactly endangered.

[Anonymous No.10702974]

>>10702918
This is actually interesting, I know /lit/ resents JP because of his popularity with normies and the self-help stuff but I think him and Bloom are actually very similar in their views of the importance of the western canon and defending it from what Bloom calls "the school of resentment" and Jordan calls "postmodernists"

[Anonymous No.10703003]

[Anonymous No.10703043]

>>10703003
Who was in the wrong here?

[Anonymous No.10703141]

>>10703003
Explain the Ozymandias meme to me

[Anonymous No.10703145]

>>10703141
Fuck off brainlet

[Anonymous No.10703149]

>>10702974
no
JP is the exact same kind of pseud that Bloom opposed at the time when academia was dominated by TS Eliot
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.10703166]

>>10702646
Kek

[Anonymous No.10703220]

>>10703149
>peterson is an eliotic christian
Just lol at the pseuds on this board

[Anonymous No.10703259]

>>10703149
>JP is the exact same kind of pseud that Bloom opposed at the time when academia was dominated by TS Eliot
Care to elaborate on that theory?
They both see the western literary tradition as an essential bedrock of our civilization and worthy of defending. They've both said the exact same thing about the absolute state of the humanities in modern academia.

[Anonymous No.10703834]

>>10702432
Tfw you will never be a young man reading Emerson again

[Anonymous No.10703840]

>>10703003
I get how Ozymandias is applicable here.

[Anonymous No.10703927]

Harold "Harry potter is absolute slop" Bloom

[Anonymous No.10704336]

>>10703927
he's right you know

[Anonymous No.10704348]

>>10703840
*don't get

[Anonymous No.10704383]

>>10702646
Just like Lovecraft vanquished Edmund Wilson so has Rowling pummeled Bloom. And no one will remember Bloom in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.10704392]

>>10702646
No... No no no YOU WILL DIE

[Anonymous No.10704393]

>>10704383
top kek

[Anonymous No.10704400]

>>10702414
c0da is pretty cool honestly

We can start talking about canon in Elder Scrolls once Bethesda stops incorporating material originally published outside the games

[Anonymous No.10704406]

>>10704383
Wasn't just Lovecraft. Tolkien and Chandler outlasted his put downs. But at least it took decades for Wilson to fade from memory. Bloom is still alive and his relevance is already fading.

[Anonymous No.10704410]

why are old people so depressing

[Anonymous No.10704415]

>>10704410
They remind you of death and the transitory nature of your life

[Anonymous No.10704420]

he sounds like a Peterson fanboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9ieF7LVbyI

[Anonymous No.10704431]

>>10704420
except he knows enough to use the term pseudo before those labels

[Anonymous No.10704436]

>>10702646
DELET THIS

[Anonymous No.10704440]

>>10704420
>he sounds like a Peterson fanboy
people say kill yourself a lot on this website, but in this case I actually mean it. Kill yourself. Please.

[Anonymous No.10704441]

>>10703834
Hard.

[Anonymous No.10704446]

>>10704420
No Peterson is a Bloom fanboy just as anyone who even has the pretense of intelligence ought to be.

[Anonymous No.10704452]

>>10704410
>Tfw work as a cashier at a hardware store part time and some old dude buying caulk broke down about his wife dying recently.

I was just like uhhhh sorry buddy. I'm not even that socially awkward but whoo buddy that was unexpected and I really did feel bad for that old fella

[Anonymous No.10704481]

>>10702598
>can’t get a girl because he keeps mentioning that he won’t read niggers or women
Implying girls don't like that.

[Anonymous No.10704508]

>>10702664
>It's not even Marxists. It's intersectional feminists and critical race theorists.
Implying they are not the same thing.

[Anonymous No.10704521]

>>10704383
>Edmund Wilson
But he was actually unworthy of being remembered and Bloom is right. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.10704543]

>>10704383
>>10704521
People still read Edmund Wilson's literary criticism.

[Anonymous No.10704548]

>>10704521
Unless I'm mistaken and this board really has become pseud city, I imagine nearly everyone on /lit/ knows who Edmund Wilson is. You can't really open any Fitzgerald novel without seeing his name.

[Anonymous No.10704552]

>>10704543
And the Quran. That doesn't make them good.

[Anonymous No.10704599]

Bloom’s great but his subtext readings are sometimes ridiculous. Dude thinks Genesis, Exodus, and Numbers, were all written by a woman, that Shakespeare was a bisexual, and that Blood Meridian is about a need for gun control in America. He’s just as bad as your average Literature professor in this regard.

[Anonymous No.10704738]

>>10702432
he always reminds me of jerry

[Anonymous No.10704892]

>>10702887
Calvino loved them so much he wrote a book about it

[Anonymous No.10704898]

>>10704892
Eh, Calvino was an academic at heart.

[Anonymous No.10704939]

>>10704336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVWiwd0P0c0&feature=youtu.be&t=7m47s

[Anonymous No.10704983]

>>10704420
The way he talks about why we read is actually pretty beautiful.

[Anonymous No.10705021]

>>10703003
Only a white male could care this much about "high literature" when there is real inequality in our society.

Just shows how much privilege ya'll have.

[Anonymous No.10705028]

>>10705021
I'm half black and grew up below the poverty line and this is really important to me, you condescending fucking cunt.

[Anonymous No.10705037]

>>10704383
Edmund Wilson was unironically a top tier critic
Also his feud with Nabokov was hilarious

[Anonymous No.10705123]

>>10704599
That sounds embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10705130]

>>10702458
h-has he ever been happy?

[Anonymous No.10705134]

>>10702639
There's still hope you will die first.

[Anonymous No.10705137]

>>10704599
Remember when that Krugman article convinced him that Dubya was involved in some right wing cabal plotting to launch an effective coup

[Anonymous No.10705156]

>>10704410
It's not just in old age that some become depressing. Some /lit/ posters are depressing even now, in their teens.

[Anonymous No.10705237]

Bloom is a canon slave lezter mensch

[Anonymous No.10705244]

>>10705137
Hadn’t heard that one but it doesn’t surprise me.

[Anonymous No.10705266]

>>10704599
>Dude thinks Genesis, Exodus, and Numbers, were all written by a woman
What’s embarrassing about that?

>that Shakespeare was a bisexual
Isn’t that the general consensus?

>that Blood Meridian is about a need for gun control in America
That does sound kind of stupid.

[Anonymous No.10705272]

>>10705021
you are a racist

>>10705028
don't mind him, anon -- people like that only try to drag others down

[Anonymous No.10705299]

>>10703141
>>10703840
SEE YE MIGHTY AND DESPAIR

[Anonymous No.10705428]

>>10705021
Sweetie…

[Anonymous No.10705868]

>>10704400
The c0da is a piece of shit excuse for all the glaring mistakes the canon has. Not to mention all the gay ass fanfictions it created.

[Anonymous No.10705994]

>>10703259
Bloom is a humanist gnostic aestete interested in the Sublime, in the solitary act of reading deeply, in High literature.
JP is a populist pseud whose audience is a bunch of frustrated youngsters who get all their information from the interwebz xD and from youtube video. He can't go one second without mentioning le dominance hierarchy and jungian nonsense. His interest are gender pronouns and men not getting their dick wet, and whenever he takes interest in literature it's only because of the aforementioned jungian nonsense. They're similiar only on a superficial level. You've probably never read one of Bloom's books or you would know this.

[Anonymous No.10706125]

>>10704599
>Dude thinks Genesis, Exodus, and Numbers, were all written by a woman
I'm not debating your point, I'm just pointing out he never said they were written by a women but edited by one. Also it's not his own theory; he says specifically that we will never know who wrote/compiled the bible so he tends to accept others charming speculations since it can introduce an interesting reading/perspective of the text. I'm sure he still engages in "therapeutic readings" and none of those positions listed are hills he's willing to die on.

[Anonymous No.10707528]

>>10704431
Peterson uses the term 'neo' to be fair

>>10704983
I was tearing up especially when he mentioned getting older

[Anonymous No.10707571]

>>10705266
Shakespeare was a buysexual. Whenever he wanted sex he had to buy it.

[Anonymous No.10707583]

>>10705021
>ya'll
hey folks! check me out, I'm really down with poc folks and their lingo. If you're not down with intersectionality™ you're not cool and woke like me. Better check your privilege guy!

[Anonymous No.10707628]

>>10702478
>he fell for the meme and actually studied the humanities
I'll have an extra large big mac meal please.

[Anonymous No.10707641]

>>10702541
Keked out loud. Kill yourself you worthless 18 faggot. You haven't eread 5 books off the sticky, let alone the canon

[Anonymous No.10707653]

>>10704481
Maybe in your autist populated basement cultivated neofedora fantasy land

[Anonymous No.10707667]

>>10704508
Just because youre a pleb doesnt mean everyone is

[Anonymous No.10707681]

>>10704599
Shakespeare was bisexual. Are you illiterate or do you just refuse to read?

[Anonymous No.10707695]

>>10705021
I'm unsurprised at how many took this bait.

[Anonymous No.10707718]

>>10706125
>he never said they were written by a women but edited by one
No, he pretty explicitly said he thought it was written by a court lady in The Book of J.

[Anonymous No.10707742]

>>10707681
What evidence is there?

[Anonymous No.10707902]

>Todos los días recibo correos con el mismo lamento: ‘Leemos basura'
JAJAJAJA

[Anonymous No.10707912]

>>10707742
Sonnets nigger.

[Anonymous No.10708138]

>>10702432
Who is taking these pictures, and why?

[Anonymous No.10708284]

>>10707912
Which one?

[Anonymous No.10708297]

>>10708284
all of the ones written to a pretty young man, 1-126, dedicated to a Mr. W.H.

[Anonymous No.10708300]

>>10708297
I write sonnets to my best friend all the time, but the balls never touch, so it's no gae.

[Anonymous No.10708311]

>>10708138

I took them all

pic related it's me and mr bloom

[Anonymous No.10708316]

>>10708311

another pic of me and mr bloom

[Anonymous No.10708318]

>>10708284
20, for instance.

[Anonymous No.10708348]

>>10708300
writing sonnets at all makes you gay with a capital HIV

[Anonymous No.10708370]

>>10704420
B-Bloom hasn't read Foucault!
What a fraud!
t. leftypol

[Anonymous No.10708376]

>>10708370
>Foucault's approach to sexuality, which he sees as socially constructed, has become influential. Foucault's resistance to identity politics, and his rejection of the psychoanalytic concept of object choice, stands at odds with some theories of queer identity.

[Anonymous No.10708761]

>>10702432
>I...I...am so glad I spent my life reading the entire canon...

[Anonymous No.10709540]

>>10708376
Imagine being Foucault and coming back to life to see SJWs quoting your theories to support their ideological crusades. He would probably like his work being misappropriated in some perverted self degrading way desu.

[Anonymous No.10709552]

>>10708138
Someone who hates Bloom

[Anonymous No.10709565]

>>10708376
Yet another thinker ruined by the angloamerican """academia"""

[Anonymous No.10710032]

>>10702587
>As a Marxist
hilarious; never fails to amuse

[Anonymous No.10710232]

>>10708311

[Anonymous No.10710751]

>>10708316
What does he think of trump?

[Anonymous No.10710782]

>>10702577
Yeah, but its not an anime, now is it, Sparky?

[Anonymous No.10710827]

>>10710232
holy fuck

[Anonymous No.10710835]

>>10710751
Don't think he's ever said anything about him. He did say during the election that Hillary was a crook and Republicans would probably win though.

[Anonymous No.10710877]

>>10710232

wow

[Anonymous No.10710956]

>>10702639
Not if the pills I just swallowed do their job. It's been a good one, men.

[Anonymous No.10710960]

>>10705021
>jews
>white
stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.10711246]

F

[Anonymous No.10711300]

>>10711246
test

[Anonymous No.10711348]

>In 1984, when I was a new Ph. D. about to take a job in the Yale English Department, a senior faculty member at Stanford took me aside and warned me that Harold Bloom was notorious for sexual misconduct with women and I should be on my guard. She was not the only one who offered me a warning or an account of sexual misconduct and its psychological and professional cost.

[Anonymous No.10711447]

>>10705994
I'd listen to Santeria with bloom

[Anonymous No.10711743]

>>10711348
based bloom