INTELLECTUAL HAPPENING ALERT!

[Anonymous No.10692167]

Holy fucking shit, Zizek vs. Peterson!!!

The intellectual showdown of our generation is about to take place!

Zizek slams Peterson and Peterson RESPONDS on Twitter, saying he "phoned it in."

DEBATE WHEN?

[Anonymous No.10692183]

>>10692167

Holy shit the ideology of this post. I'm sniffing just from reading it

[Anonymous No.10692206]

Post the link nigger.

[Anonymous No.10692216]

>>10692167
Zizek plays a moron and Peterson plays morons.

[Anonymous No.10692219]

I'm not even a Petersonfag but he just went BEASTMODE and COMPLETELY DESTROYED Zizek in this one
Nothing else is going to happen, this is not even a happening

[Anonymous No.10692223]

Zizek's article is one of the shittiest brainlets libels I've ever seen lmao

[Anonymous No.10692229]

Why are all Peterson threads filled with teenagers?
Why are they allowed on this board?

[Anonymous No.10692232]

>>10692223
Yeah
If his name wasnt on it I would had thought it was just by another humanities graduate literal who

[Anonymous No.10692233]

>>10692167
Is this Chomsky vs Foucault of our generation?

[Anonymous No.10692235]

>>10692167
YES
THE MEME BATTLE OF THE MILLENIUM

This will be regarded as the most important debate in history since Nicaea

[Anonymous No.10692240]

>>10692167
About time Zizek responds to Peterson's meteoric rise, he's had a lot of time to witness it so I expect this to be good

[Anonymous No.10692245]

>>10692167
BASED Zizek

I am of the left, so can someone explain why my supposedly left leaning socialist academic liberal moral subjectivity loving SJW friends hate him?

[Anonymous No.10692248]

the amount of ideolojee that is about to go down

[Anonymous No.10692249]

>>10692240
He had enough time to write something good but this article is literally nothinh

[Anonymous No.10692250]

>>10692229
As reward for cleaning their room

>>10692235
Who will build the ritualistic church?

[Anonymous No.10692252]

>>10692167
I love Zizek and find Peterson ridiculous but he was right, this article was a piece of shit and totally phoned in.

[Anonymous No.10692255]

>>10692249
His article is good. He's subtly saying that both the American left and the American right are mentally deranged, which is true.

[Anonymous No.10692256]

>>10692167
DEBATE IMMINENT

[Anonymous No.10692257]

>it took Europe thousands of years to win a novel prize in literature
>America won after only 154 years of existence

lmao stay mad gyro poors we’ll handle culture from here

[Anonymous No.10692259]

JORDAN B PETERSON ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS POSTMODERNISM CLICK HERE TO WATCH NOW!!!

[Anonymous No.10692261]

the article is not even primarily about peterson, it is about the reasons zizek believes he is popular.

[Anonymous No.10692262]

>>10692245
I D E O L O G I E

[Anonymous No.10692263]

>>10692235
I was about to go back to actually read but I guess I will have to meme for another hour or so

[Anonymous No.10692264]

Can't wait till they start analyzing movies together.

[Anonymous No.10692266]

>>10692252
How so?

[Anonymous No.10692268]

>>10692256
IT'S HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.10692272]

Oh for fuck's sake, of all the people who could have debated memerson it had to be fucking Zizek?

[Anonymous No.10692275]

>>10692256
After that shit show of an article, I have to chose my man Peterson for winner of the debate.

[Anonymous No.10692276]

How relevant is Zizek anymore? What's he done in the last few years? Are there any really good new lectures on YouTube?

[Anonymous No.10692277]

>>10692167
Zizek is jealous because he isn't the go-to pseudo-intellectual for normies anymore. The article was garbage and the fact that he resorted to the same arguments of the mainstream liberal media is honestly sad.

[Anonymous No.10692282]

>>10692167
I honestly think most posters on this board could write a better article criticizing Peterson.

[Anonymous No.10692284]

>>10692255
>implying an article was needed to see that
Zizek is senile

[Anonymous No.10692285]

>>10692256
HOLY FUCK
NOOSE, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT

[Anonymous No.10692286]

>>10692262
Being a brainlet I do not understand
snif sniff
Please violently elaborate

[Anonymous No.10692291]

>>10692167
Zizeks leaving something out which seems pretty important. Why is it that the rights misrepresentations are accepts whilsts the lefts are rejected?

>>10692219
"Name one time I said that!" is not a worthy argument

[Anonymous No.10692294]

>>10692266
Most of the article was a copy and paste job talking about refugees despite Peterson for making sweeping claims about the ideological motivations of others without scientific justification despite the fact that's what he does all the fucking time

[Anonymous No.10692295]

>>10692276
He wrote his best book like 1 of 2 years ago
>>10692277
>>10692282
Agree

[Anonymous No.10692300]

>>10692285
Will it be Hitchens Vs Galloway tier?
Or Yinappolous vs Shapiro tier?
Or a bum fighting a tramp?

[Anonymous No.10692303]

>>10692284
>implying an article was needed to see that
Normally I would agree, but judging by the sheer amount of retards ITT who completely missed the point of the article I'd say yes, it was needed.

[Anonymous No.10692305]

>>10692291
>Why is it that the rights misrepresentations are accepts whilsts the lefts are rejected?

What the fuck are you on about. The fact trannies are being taken seriously in the first place is proof this isn't the case

[Anonymous No.10692307]

>>10692300
It will be a more like a gentleman fighting a bear.

[Anonymous No.10692308]

>>10692300
Plato vs Aristotle tier

[Anonymous No.10692311]

>>10692272
when has Zizek ever debated anyone? Even in formal debates he just uses it as an excuse to monologue and tell jokes

[Anonymous No.10692312]

>yfw you'll live to witness the greatest intellectual meme-off of history

[Anonymous No.10692313]

my god i have to clap handshh *sniff* at thishh revolutionary potentshhial, it's shhenshhual,erotic like a lap dancshh, in a Freudian kind of way.

[Anonymous No.10692315]

>>10692300
Chomsky vs Foucault tier

[Anonymous No.10692318]

>>10692286
just something he says in a very peculiar way.

[Anonymous No.10692319]

>>10692257
Nobel prizes didn't exist for thousands of years you fucking idiot and you only started being relevant after Europeans immigrated to the US, before that you won fuck all

[Anonymous No.10692320]

>>10692276
he had that one lecture where he debates with that shrill nyu jewess Nietzsche scholar which was bretty entertaining, he goes off about why Trump won etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lrU_ZX15C8

[Anonymous No.10692321]

>>10692319
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.10692322]

>>10692307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP92j-uEnps

[Anonymous No.10692324]

>>10692311
Zizek said once that "philosophers don't debate" and he sticks by that. As a Hegelian he believes every person is on the path towards discovering the truth that he grasps more fully so all he has to do is Socratically discuss with his interlockular until they eventually find out they already agree with him

[Anonymous No.10692325]

>>10692294
>copy and paste
Did he plagiarize something?

[Anonymous No.10692330]

>>10692315
un-ironically this. I'm actually excited, just gonna have to tune out both fanbases

[Anonymous No.10692331]

>>10692315
i never witnessed this; please help sauce?

[Anonymous No.10692332]

>>10692325
Yeah, himself, he does this all the time for his newspaper pieces

[Anonymous No.10692333]

>>10692300
it will be like peterson & harris where they don't say a single thing for 2 hours

[Anonymous No.10692334]

>>10692315
this but ironically

[Anonymous No.10692336]

>>10692330
But that's the best part (since they are both essentially memes)

[Anonymous No.10692337]

Who will be the host? Rogan or h3h3?

[Anonymous No.10692339]

POSTMODERNIST ISIS TERRORISTS CROSSING THE MEXICO BORDER THANKS TO A FRANKFURT SCHOOL CULTURAL MARXIST SLAVOJ ZIZEK!!! CLICK THIS VIDEO SEE HOW TO GET BITCOIN FOR FREE!!!

[Anonymous No.10692341]

>>10692337
dave rubin

[Anonymous No.10692342]

>>10692331
Just youtube search it retard, fuck me

[Anonymous No.10692347]

>>10692257
True tbqhwyf

[Anonymous No.10692348]

>>10692333
Peterson and Harris was simply intellectual mutual masturbation

[Anonymous No.10692350]

>>10692167
*sniff* *sniff*
And so on, and so on.
*sniff* *sniff*
And that is how ideology functions today.

[Anonymous No.10692351]

>>10692337
reviewbrah

[Anonymous No.10692352]

>>10692300
God vs Himself
Reality will, quite literally, shatter.
The ride's just begun

[Anonymous No.10692355]

>>10692291
>Why is it that the rights misrepresentations are accepts whilsts the lefts are rejected?
Isn't it the other way around? Just to give an example, any time Peterson says something that Nietzsche wouldn't have agreed with he's mocked for misinterpreting him, but Zizek is free to reinterpret Lacan as much as he pleases.

[Anonymous No.10692356]

That's such bullshit, fuck that. I KNOW THE "TRUTH" BUT I WONT DEBATE IT OR TELL YOU CLEARLY

[Anonymous No.10692358]

>>10692337
Cliff Sergent

[Anonymous No.10692362]

>>10692319
Europeans lmao

[Anonymous No.10692363]

>>10692337
the boys on TDS

[Anonymous No.10692368]

>>10692342
I will search.
And no, I won't fuck you; I'll make love to you instead

[Anonymous No.10692369]

>>10692355
did you read the article? He's talking about the mainsteam

[Anonymous No.10692372]

>>10692355
What the fuck has Zizek have to do with the american left and what the fuck does Peterson have to do with European anti-refugees? Did you even read the article?

[Anonymous No.10692375]

>>10692355
In fairness, Lacan is pretty fucking open to interpretation. Nietzsche is tricky but quite clear in comparison

[Anonymous No.10692376]

>>10692352

[Anonymous No.10692378]

>>10692167
Sadler would demolish them both... in a cage match.

[Anonymous No.10692379]

>>10692355
But Zizek is a DANGEROUS POSTMODERNIST and has the freedom to freestyle.

[Anonymous No.10692380]

>>10692369
>>10692372
No, I obviously didn't. I'm not some fag who goes around reading shit. I'm here to see anons fight.

[Anonymous No.10692381]

>>10692351
Please, god
You've given me nothing and spat when I thanked
I only beg you to give me this

[Anonymous No.10692383]

>>10692375
>but quite clear
I've yet to see a single thinker who understands his work

[Anonymous No.10692385]

>>10692379
Pre or post knee injury?

[Anonymous No.10692388]

>>10692375
>Nietzsche
>Not open to interpretation
really hardens my carapace

[Anonymous No.10692392]

>>10692337
Angie Does Books

[Anonymous No.10692395]

>>10692337
It should be hosted by Joe Rogan and be in one of those e-sports arenas and they both have to wear racing suits covered in sponsors and whenever they make a point they have to stand up and point like in phoenix wright and there will be reverb on their mics

[Anonymous No.10692397]

>>10692383
>>10692388
IN COMPARISON

[Anonymous No.10692398]

>>10692167
Really though, Zizek phoned that article in, not even a fan of Peterson but Zizek sounded like any other normie liberal

[Anonymous No.10692400]

>>10692337
TED talk

[Anonymous No.10692402]

>>10692337

[Anonymous No.10692408]

>>10692337
that silver-haired dude from CNN will host
Sam Hyde and Jerry Seinfeld will each do a stand-up routine during intermissions

[Anonymous No.10692413]

>>10692398
>Peterson is bad
>Nazis were bad
>Peterson is like the Nazis

Absolute state of Zizek

[Anonymous No.10692426]

>>10692413
He isn't talking about Peterson, you fucking imbecile. The article is about why Peterson has become so popular. It's more like some people like nazis. Nazis are bad. The same people like Peterson therefore Peterson must be bad too.

[Anonymous No.10692427]

>>10692398 #
>Peterson is bad
>Nazis were bad
>Peterson is like the Nazis

Absolute state of Zizek

[Anonymous No.10692428]

>>10692167
The absolute state of Žižek's life, imagine being 68 years old and having to write shit like this, having to write an "impassioned" polemic of some middle-brow status quo non-entity when all you want to do is fuck your hot teen wife and snort cocaine

[Anonymous No.10692430]

WHEN WILL ZIZEK RESPOND

[Anonymous No.10692434]

I honestly don't think there's much to debate. They would both masturbate to their own ideas and it would yield no resolution of any kind. I personally think that it should be a wrestling match and not a debate.

[Anonymous No.10692438]

>>10692426
>he isn't talking about Peterson he's talking about Peterson

Take a breather Anon

[Anonymous No.10692444]

>>10692332
>>10692325
he even admits during his talks he constantly plagiarizes himself for his articles and books and talks

[Anonymous No.10692445]

>>10692427
>>10692398
Žižek is U/ACC at this point, I'm pretty sure he literally does not care and is only trying to earn a paycheck, or maybe someone at the independent has a good cocaine hook up, I don't know.

[Anonymous No.10692448]

>>10692438
No. I won't until all the brainlets here stop saying that Zizek phoned it. He didn't Peterson is the real brainlet here.

[Anonymous No.10692449]

>>10692434
I feel like zizek would fight like one of those kids who emulate moves from naruto

[Anonymous No.10692452]

>>10692255
>American left and the American right are mentally deranged
isnt peterson canadian? has zizek lost it?

[Anonymous No.10692456]

>>10692337

[Anonymous No.10692457]

>>10692444
This is cool though, intellectual rigour is for low test beta males and the hallmark of a redditor

[Anonymous No.10692459]

>>10692427
But Peterson did re-tweet some Neo Nazis so it might not be so baseless.

[Anonymous No.10692460]

>>10692256
Zizek doesn't debate senpai.
>>10692264
This.
>>10692352
>god versus himself
That's literally every debate ever, cunt.
>>10692381
God pls.

[Anonymous No.10692462]

>>10692444
>>10692445
What the fuck is he doing all day that he can't be bothered to come up with an original 500 words
Christ he's so God damn lazy

[Anonymous No.10692463]

>>10692448
There's libel in the very first paragraph. Your God is an intellectual dwarf lmao

[Anonymous No.10692466]

>>10692378
They wouldnt know what hit'em

[Anonymous No.10692468]

I'm a Zizek fan and I own several of his books, but damn me if that's not one garbo article. It reads like the standard Guardian op-ed by some no-name liberal

[Anonymous No.10692470]

>>10692448
Peterson is a brainlet but Zizek totally phoned it in

[Anonymous No.10692474]

>>10692462
Cocaine and teenage girls
>>10692448
Oh no, he definitely did phone it in. This is not necessarily bad nor does it make Peterson any less of a boring hack though.

[Anonymous No.10692476]

how the fuck anyone considers peterson "alt-right" is beyond me
the guy is a straight up fucking liberal, is this the overton window I've heard so much about at work?

[Anonymous No.10692479]

>For me, the last few years of the postmodern era have seemed a bit like the way you feel when you're in high school and your parents go on a trip, and you throw a party. You get all your friends over and throw this wild disgusting fabulous party. For a while it's great, free and freeing, parental authority gone and overthrown, a cat's-away-let's-play Dionysian revel. But then time passes and the party gets louder and louder, and you run out of drugs, and nobody's got any money for more drugs, and things get broken and spilled, and there's cigarette burn on the couch, and you're the host and it's your house too, and you gradually start wishing your parents would come back and restore some fucking order in your house. It's not a perfect analogy, but the sense I get of my generation of writers and intellectuals or whatever is that it's 3:00 A.M. and the couch has several burn-holes and somebody's thrown up in the umbrella stand and we're wishing the revel would end. The postmodern founders' patricidal work was great, but patricide produces orphans, and no amount of revelry can make up for the fact that writers my age have been literary orphans throughout our formative years. We're kind of wishing some parents would come back. And of course we're uneasy about the fact that we wish they'd come back--I mean, what's wrong with us? Are we total pussies? Is there something about authority and limits we actually need? And then the uneasiest feeling of all, as we start gradually to realize that parents in fact aren't ever coming back--which means we're going to have to be the parents.
What did Peterson mean by this and how will Zizek recover? This debate was over before it even started.

[Anonymous No.10692480]

>>10692459
Do you mean that time he retweeted some cultural picture because he doesn't examine the twitter profile of everything he retweets?

The absolute state of the left.

[Anonymous No.10692486]

>>10692463
OH NO! not libel!!! somebody call plato
ur like a new baby

[Anonymous No.10692492]

>>10692479
Fuck his writing is as annoying as his talking. How can anyone read this?

[Anonymous No.10692493]

Did Zizek write badly on purpose to catch Peterson off guard in the debate?
Is this the real 20D chess?

[Anonymous No.10692494]

>>10692476
Peterson once claimed that most of the animosity between men and women today was caused by hormones from the morning after pill. Behind his liberal front he has Alex Jones tier bullshit floating around

[Anonymous No.10692497]

>>10692462
Maybe he masturbates and wastes his time on boards like this all day like me, he is way past his peak

[Anonymous No.10692498]

>>10692486
To be fair, your camp would have nothing to say without libel lel

[Anonymous No.10692501]

>>10692476
The "alt-right" is liberal, all post-modern modern expressions are necessarily sub-liberal.

[Anonymous No.10692502]

>>10692167
Zizek is legitimately a brainlet. Even Jordan Peterson can make him look bad lel

[Anonymous No.10692504]

>>10692498
>your camp

Cancer

[Anonymous No.10692508]

>>10692494
He's not wrong

[Anonymous No.10692510]

>>10692501
>all post-modern modern expressions

What did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.10692513]

>>10692494
don't act like female hormone control isn't a big fuck up in modernity

[Anonymous No.10692516]

>>10692498
>your camp

[Anonymous No.10692518]

>>10692504
You're not an independent thinker, you're an opinion receptacle with reddit spacing
Sorry brainlet boi

[Anonymous No.10692520]

>>10692479
>how will Zizek recover?
This was his opportunity and he blew it
Rip

[Anonymous No.10692521]

>>10692508
Of course he's fucking wrong. It makes no God damn sense even if it were true that the pill is causing women to find aggressive men less attractive

[Anonymous No.10692525]

>>10692494
That's not so scientifically baseless to be fair.

[Anonymous No.10692529]

I wonder what Sargon will say. He's always right.

[Anonymous No.10692530]

>>10692518
>doubling down cancer

[Anonymous No.10692532]

>>10692510
an expression of modern weltgeist following the conclusion of modernity (both in a temporal, spiritual and ideological sense)

[Anonymous No.10692534]

>>10692518
hmmm.... curious

[Anonymous No.10692536]

>>10692525
Nigger there's a difference between recognizing that the pill might have hormonal effects to thinking MOST of gender abrasion in the modern era comes down to it as if this shit isn't just a straightforward continuation since the Victorian suffrage movement

[Anonymous No.10692541]

Like it has happened before:
>pseud thinks a philosophical debate is about winning an argument instead of finding better understanding of the topic
>"DEBATES" (lol mail interchange) with a proper academic person
>doesn't even know how to talk, how to stay in point, makes it about himself
>pseud thinks he got it
>fedoras are thrown to the air thinking they have won something
>everyone else just think it was a waste of time or hilarious in how they completely miss the point
>fade into obscurity
>new pseud appears

So, can we start nurturing our new pseudlord? Do we stay in the religious sort of route or do we switch back to "atheism is not an ideology"?

[Anonymous No.10692542]

>>10692532
>an expression of modern weltgeist following the conclusion of modernity

What did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.10692544]

Let's settle this once and for all: anyone who thinks that the article was bad and that Zizek was attacking Peterson completely missed the point and is probably retarded as well.

[Anonymous No.10692546]

>>10692479
>parents in fact aren't ever coming ba-
*blocks your path*
Daddy's home, JP, go clean your room or a I will dialectically destroy your backbone real quick

[Anonymous No.10692548]

>>10692480
And he just randomly stumbles upon interviews which connect him to the far right. What a poor boy. I wonder why anyone would ever think that he's a Nazi. Hell, you've convinced me. Now I believe that Peterson is actually a communist on a secret mission.

[Anonymous No.10692554]

>>10692337
>Rogan or h3h3?
That plus Peterson would be too much teenager fuel. We need something meme-ish but more neutral.

[Anonymous No.10692555]

>>10692548
>And he just randomly stumbles upon interviews which connect him to the far right

Example?

[Anonymous No.10692556]

>>10692544
>mfw I never actually read the article

[Anonymous No.10692557]

>>10692544
This desu. I was waiting for a response, but now I'll just go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.10692558]

>>10692355
But Peterson literally doesn't understand Nietzsche while Zizek is one of the biggest authorities on Lacan.

[Anonymous No.10692561]

>The same holds for how, today, the anti-immigrant populists deal with the “problem” of the refugees: they approach it in the atmosphere of fear, of the incoming struggle against the “Islamification” of Europe, and they get caught in a series of obvious absurdities. For them, refugees who flee terror are equalised with the terrorists they are escaping from, oblivious to the obvious fact that, while there are probably among the refugees also terrorists, rapists, criminals and so on, the large majority are desperate people looking for a better life.

The Middle East and Africa are bad. Fear of these places effectively being airdropped next door is justifiable. Zizek hardly even argues anything other than that excessive political correctness towards the migration problem is bad, but no effort should be made to stop the migration problem, because it's our moral duty, and we need to implement Communism immediately. Not exactly inspiring.

[Anonymous No.10692565]

>>10692554
Sam Harris

[Anonymous No.10692567]

>>10692395
kek

[Anonymous No.10692575]

>>10692544
Exactly, this is the same drama as Sam Harris "arguing" with Chomsky.

>>10692565
Ben Stiller playing Sam Harris, make it an obligatory badly run TEDx and this should set the tone for the next couple of years.

[Anonymous No.10692576]

>>10692555
Tara McCarthy, Sargon of Akkad, Stefan Molyneux, Dave Rubin,Theryn Meyer, and he appeared next to Ben Shapiro.

[Anonymous No.10692579]

>>10692337
kike enoch

[Anonymous No.10692584]

>>10692541
Go back to redd*t

[Anonymous No.10692587]

>>10692449
kek

[Anonymous No.10692588]

>>10692555
>Molyneux
>Shapiro
>far right
Kek

[Anonymous No.10692593]

>>10692584
But Zizek and Chomsky are 4chan, Sam Harris and Peterson are reddit (/pol/ is reddit@4chins)

[Anonymous No.10692596]

>>10692588
Fuck off nigger. He's a reactionary and you know it.

[Anonymous No.10692597]

Can we do team events?
> triple threat
> Peterson, Sargon & Shapiro
> Milo, Molymeme & Spencer
> Some liberal prick, another liberal prick & a literal communist

[Anonymous No.10692598]

>>10692264
holy shit this would be entertaining as fuck. I feel like so many people around here are too uptight to just enjoy the ride with Zizek and Peterson. Who cares if they're pseuds or not or if they have shitty fanbases, they're both entertaining and interesting analysts in their own way.

[Anonymous No.10692599]

>>10692576
>sargon and Rubin far right
Tara McCarthy is the only one out of that entire list that is arguably far right, you lefty twit.

[Anonymous No.10692602]

>>10692542
modern opinions in modern eras

[Anonymous No.10692604]

>>10692576
>>10692555
and russel brand
a famous right winger

[Anonymous No.10692607]

>>10692593
>4chan is communist
yeah nah

[Anonymous No.10692609]

This thread is way past it's peak
delete it

[Anonymous No.10692610]

>>10692593
>Zizek and Chomsky are 4chan
Worst bait ever, shoot yourself.

[Anonymous No.10692613]

>>10692576
None of those people are remotely far right

[Anonymous No.10692616]

>>10692167

CLASH OF THE PSEUDANS

[Anonymous No.10692618]

>>10692256
Peterson smells some cash. He's all over it.

[Anonymous No.10692619]

>>10692593
/pol/edditors will deny this

[Anonymous No.10692620]

>>10692609
Oy vey shut it down

[Anonymous No.10692622]

>>10692593
Chomsky is reddit

[Anonymous No.10692627]

>>10692536
there's a significant part of the gender conflict that isn't ideological whatsoever
people just fucking hate each-other. naturally this makes no sense evolutionary. therefore something is likely in the way of the way things aught to be
hormones are a bad explanation, but so are politics

[Anonymous No.10692628]

>>10692561
Zizek isn't an idiot. He's just playing dumb. He knows perfectly well that mass immigration of poor muslims isn't liked not only because of terrorism but because they are a real problem. They are backward people from backward countries who when they come in larger groups form ghettos where they feel comfortable enough not to be willing to be properly integrated to the rest of the country. The same liberal who open their arms to them will have to deal with an extremely conservative group of people once they aren't a minority anymore.

[Anonymous No.10692633]

>>10692627
>Evolutionary
Yeah it's almost as if evolutionary psychology is a meme pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.10692637]

>>10692607
/pol/ != 4chan

>>10692610
No? Sorry newfag, but before /pol/ shat on the whole site, /lit/ was pretty left as is standard in literary circles. Also, Zizek brought the whole PURE IDEOLOGY posting.

[Anonymous No.10692639]

>>10692593
>Chomsky
"no", considering Foucault is 100% /our guy/.

Definitely Žižek though.

[Anonymous No.10692643]

>>10692628
Fuck off, nazi bitch. We aren't going to fall for the Muslim boogieman here. We aren't /pol/.

[Anonymous No.10692644]

>>10692628
Right, he's just putting on a typical Zizekian show of criticizing The Left from a position of agreement.

[Anonymous No.10692646]

>>10692637
leftism is gay

[Anonymous No.10692653]

>>10692479
>Is there something about authority and limits we actually need
yes, is he dumb or something

[Anonymous No.10692654]

>>10692628
>They are backward people from backward countries
They should be at home in Germany then

[Anonymous No.10692656]

>>10692599
>hurr Rubin didn't interview a fuckton of reactionaries
Get outta here nigga and clean your goddamn room.

[Anonymous No.10692657]

>>10692643
You should be airdropped in Mogadishu. I'm told Somalia and the like are in desperate need of high-skill immigration to improve their human capital...

[Anonymous No.10692659]

>>10692637
/lit/ was not "pretty left", and the communists that posted here certainly were not incoherent meme leftists like yourself, they were able to see the absolute incongruity of advocating socialism with liberal values and would NEVER conflate a thinker like Žižek with fucking Chomsky.

[Anonymous No.10692661]

>>10692479
i was tempted not to tell you retards, but this is dfw

[Anonymous No.10692662]

>>10692633
ur a meme pseudoscience
fite me

[Anonymous No.10692666]

>>10692628
muslimes are pretty tame, it's the africans who are the real problem

[Anonymous No.10692671]

>>10692627
>something just happens for some reason I dunno lol

Be quiet when you have nothing to say

[Anonymous No.10692672]

>this whole thread

[Anonymous No.10692673]

>>10692659
>/lit/ was not "pretty left"

[Anonymous No.10692674]

>>10692593
>Chomsky
neck yourself faggot, this post is pure ideology

[Anonymous No.10692681]

>>10692256
ANDY WARSKI WHEN

[Anonymous No.10692683]

>>10692661
Haha

[Anonymous No.10692684]

>>10692659
You must be new. A few years ago this place was basically a 24/7 Marx board.

[Anonymous No.10692687]

>>10692619
Holy shit this is all too real.

[Anonymous No.10692690]

>>10692341

[Anonymous No.10692692]

>>10692661
are you telling me dfw is a petersonfag?

[Anonymous No.10692700]

>>10692671
>you need a counterpoint to acknowledge that someone's point is dumb
nah

[Anonymous No.10692701]

>>10692466
Is that real?

[Anonymous No.10692702]

>>10692684
Before the average poster aged past 17 and read some books

[Anonymous No.10692706]

>>10692702
Yeah. That's what I said.

[Anonymous No.10692707]

>>10692656
STOP TALKING TO PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE REEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.10692708]

>>10692681
GET JERRY SPRINGER IN HERE

[Anonymous No.10692712]

>>10692666
Maybe they're tame in America. For what I've seen they seem all right. But muslims here in Europe are only tame if you enjoy getting gang raped. We get all the poor ones.

[Anonymous No.10692717]

>>10692684
>>10692673
Oh, so "old /lit/" now means around the /leftypol/ invasion in 2015-16?

You also don't have to be a communist or even remotely identify as "left" to make or participate in threads on Marx, certainly not a dumbass American brocialist incapable of detecting his own fundamentally liberal presuppositions like you two.

[Anonymous No.10692718]

>>10692576
Noam Chomsky was also interviewed by Stefan Molyneux and Alex Jones, therefore he is actually far right

[Anonymous No.10692728]

>>10692656
That's called not being a no platform loonie leftie.

[Anonymous No.10692729]

>if what a jealous husband claims about his wife (that she sleeps around with other men) is all true, his jealousy is still pathological

Why does the left always insist on advocating for cuckoldry?

[Anonymous No.10692732]

>>10692707
Daddy bathed in shit and now he smells like it.
>>10692718
Chomsky openly says that he's a leftist.

[Anonymous No.10692737]

>>10692673
>>10692684
>/lit/ is a leftist board because /leftypol/ invaded us in 2015
Fuck off this was a traditionalist board originally and despite the fact that you fags organize raids and attempt to revise history you still can't claim this as a left wing board.

[Anonymous No.10692742]

>>10692167
Why do you need Zizek to take down someone who has been so thoroughly trashed by a truly superior intellect?

[Anonymous No.10692743]

>>10692732
yeah, obviously, he's saying that just because you appear on a show by somebody with one ideology it has no bearing on your own allignment

[Anonymous No.10692744]

>>10692593
Peterson became popular because /pol/

[Anonymous No.10692745]

>>10692656
REEEE marxist SJW leftist gommulists!!11 frankfur tjewsss!11

[Anonymous No.10692747]

>>10692717
/leftypol/ comes from /lit/ you stupid fucking nigger, this board gave birth to that whole subculture circa 2013-2014

[Anonymous No.10692748]

>>10692744
him, Joe Rogan, and a bearded fat youtuber

[Anonymous No.10692750]

>>10692732
Peterson has openly said he's a classical liberal

[Anonymous No.10692751]

>>10692743
But he does it again and again. I might be crying wolf here, but I just find it fishy that he's so easily connected with the far right and that he has a big reactionary following.

[Anonymous No.10692753]

>>10692742
when did russel brand become a meme

[Anonymous No.10692754]

>>10692750
saying you are a classical liberal is essentially the same as admitting to being a retard

[Anonymous No.10692756]

Can you guys stop wewuzzing on about who wuz 4chins n shieeet? We have a real meme case at hand and you're focusing on inconsequential issues.

[Anonymous No.10692757]

>>10692747
Not that anon, but you get that /leftypol/ and /his/ left because they didn't like that this was a mostly right wing board, right?

[Anonymous No.10692770]

>>10692718
Link?

[Anonymous No.10692771]

>>10692757
This was such a big right wing board that two additional places were needed to keep all the leftists. Must've been really right wing.

[Anonymous No.10692772]

>>10692754
>Not recognizing that the god given rights of the individual is the central point of western ethos

[Anonymous No.10692775]

>>10692748
>bearded fat youtuber
wtf i love boogie 2988 now

[Anonymous No.10692776]

>>10692772
>god given rights of the individual is the central point of western ethos
disgusting and very incorrect
western ethos goes a lot further back than the garbage that is enlightenment thought

[Anonymous No.10692782]

Are black """people""" actually people?

[Anonymous No.10692783]

>>10692770
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/902685815821578240?lang=en

[Anonymous No.10692792]

>>10692782
nah, what gave you that impression?

[Anonymous No.10692794]

>>10692776
it really doesn’t at all the Western culture formed around the Renaissance and Enlightenment; there was no unified West before that. if you mean empire and christendom that’s not Western at all. That’s Classical and Oriental culture

[Anonymous No.10692800]

>>10692753
When he btfo out of /lit/s retarded hero Peterson

[Anonymous No.10692807]

>>10692792
Because they can talk. Then again, parrots can "talk" too.

[Anonymous No.10692808]

>>10692800
>that time when Russel Brand debated William F Buckley

Based Brand

[Anonymous No.10692812]

>>10692794
>

[Anonymous No.10692820]

>>10692807
and gorillas can learn sign language

[Anonymous No.10692825]

236 replies in an hour and a half

[Anonymous No.10692826]

>>10692808
> one 'undred pessent in'eri'ent tax
> share da welf
Fuck Russel Brand

[Anonymous No.10692830]

>>10692252
>>10692294
>>10692462
I've not seen one cogent argument against what Zizek actually said. He maybe didn't write up a masterpiece - as if Peterson deserved the attention - but even if he did "phone it in," that's not a refutation. It's also astonishing to see a people on a board that goes months without a single piece of coherent thought attacking a published author of voluminous tracts on Hegel for being "lazy." He didn't give Peterson all that much thought because Peterson doesn't deserve it. "A certain amount of ideology is a sign of progress - that you can just dismiss an idiot without having to engage point by point." Peterson and his retarded fans aren't even the target audience of this piece, a fact that not one poster in this thread has noticed.

[Anonymous No.10692836]

>>10692783
>>10692770
shit I read your reply wrong, here's the Stefan one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNxZBoRv6VY

The Alex Jones one is really old, I think it was in 2001 and info wars was just a radio show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNxZBoRv6VY

[Anonymous No.10692837]

>>10692826
you're a genius, harry

[Anonymous No.10692840]

>>10692830
Zizek always addresses different audiences differently. His interviews are very different from his lectures or public talks.

[Anonymous No.10692842]

>>10692167
Someone make an edit

[Anonymous No.10692845]

>>10692772
t. randroid lolberg
read picrelated brainlet

[Anonymous No.10692853]

>>10692840
and?

[Anonymous No.10692855]

>>10692825
We did it reddit!

[Anonymous No.10692856]

>>10692830
lmao the cope in this thread is hilarious, yea zizek didn't provide a coherent argument because Peterson 'Doesn't deserve It'. It's like a mediocre art student defending his piece of shit work by claiming "you just don't get it"

[Anonymous No.10692860]

>>10692541
can you give some examples?

[Anonymous No.10692863]

>>10692772
Of the Anglo-american ethos maybe.

[Anonymous No.10692867]

>>10692837
> the boy...who lived....HAHAHAHA!

>>10692845
That made no sense dickhead
>>10692772
Yes indeed, the archetypal hero.

[Anonymous No.10692871]

>>10692853
Nothing. Just pointing out that this article was intentionally simplified.

[Anonymous No.10692873]

>>10692255
And what is he?

[Anonymous No.10692877]

>>10692452
Ameria, the continent. Plus, Canada is basically California 2.0.

[Anonymous No.10692883]

>>10692873
Our Glorious Enlightened Leader

[Anonymous No.10692884]

>>10692856
>didn't read the headline

[Anonymous No.10692886]

>>10692856
Peterson is philosophically handicapped. Their theory isn't far-fetched.

[Anonymous No.10692891]

>>10692830
>>10692856
You're both missing the point. Zizek isn't attacking Peterson in particular, he's saying that both the american left and the american right are mentally deranged and that they enable each other's derangedness.

[Anonymous No.10692899]

>>10692256
Holy fucking shit
If this happens this will be the /lit/ equivalent of when Jenny Death dropped on /mu/

[Anonymous No.10692901]

>>10692255
>subtly
You all are retards.

[Anonymous No.10692908]

Winner gets to fight the last boss.

[Anonymous No.10692928]

>>10692891
I don't think >>10692830 missed the point. He's saying the argument is not intended as a refutation of Peterson (as everyone here seems to think it is) but is a call for the left to get its shit together so that Peterson doesn't seem so compelling (see, the fucking title of the article)

[Anonymous No.10692939]

>>10692337
Martin Shkrelli pls

[Anonymous No.10692940]

>>10692928
POSTMODERNISM ABSOLUTELY DISMANTLED WOOOOOWOWOWOWWE

[Anonymous No.10692950]

daily reminder that we should all stop talking about peterson because he literally doesn't matter any more

[Anonymous No.10692957]

>>10692950
Can you link it? I've tried to find it but I can't.

[Anonymous No.10692992]

>>10692576
None of those people are far right.
The absolute state of the "everyone who doesn't worship marx is a nazi" radical left.

[Anonymous No.10692993]

INTELLECTUAL SHOWDOWN OF THE 21ST CENTURY

[Anonymous No.10692994]

>>10692928
Yes but the point is that the american left CAN'T wake up because they're mentally ill. The american political system is a system of pavlovian responses fueled by paranoia and "but muh the other side", that can't simply just stop existing. It's like an ouroboros, or like two old men arguing with each other in turn with one saying "you're a retard" and the other man responding "no u" and the first one replying "no u" and so for eternity.

[Anonymous No.10693011]

>>10692994
Sure. Whether Zizek is optimistic or pessimistic about the left's ability to get the fuck over itself (he's been rapping about this forever), doesn't really change the issue. It's certainly not SMARTYMAN BATTLE!!
>>10692993
Zizek does not give a shit about Peterson.

[Anonymous No.10693019]

WHO WILL WIN
IT'S BRAINLET VS BRAINLESS THIS S-S-SUNDAY NIGHT
YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST FOLKS

[Anonymous No.10693026]

MAKING MY WAY DOWNTOWN WALKING FAST

[Anonymous No.10693035]

>>10692643
>we
Stop talking like a crazy PMS reddit retard, you stupid fuck.

[Anonymous No.10693038]

THIS IS NOW AN ALL CAPS THREAD
CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL

[Anonymous No.10693043]

>>10692320
Getting cozy with this lecture tonight. Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.10693048]

>>10692908
>last boss
He is literally retarded now. Nigga fried his brain with drugs.

[Anonymous No.10693051]

CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? THE SIGNAL HERE IS VERY WEAK! IT'S WEAKER THAN SOYBOYS HANDS WHICH CAN'T HODL BITCOIN WHEN IT DROPS 20% EVERY DAMN DAY!

[Anonymous No.10693053]

CLEAN

[Anonymous No.10693056]

>>10692744
/pol/ is just a subreddit at this point.

[Anonymous No.10693059]

> "oh-so-lofty innuendos"
OH SHIT NIGGA
> let me know, and we'll arrange it....
BANG BANG!
> Hey, hey Slavoj....what'd the five archetypes....say to the nihilist?!
> CLEAN YOUR ROOM BITCH

[Anonymous No.10693062]

>>10692908
>tfw nick land likes my tweets
it's a weird feeling

[Anonymous No.10693074]

>>10693048
>>10692908
nick land is basically a boomer libertarian now except against democracy. democracy is hardly even real in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10693081]

>>10693053
YOUR

[Anonymous No.10693088]

>>10693056
sad but tru desu senpai

[Anonymous No.10693092]

>>10692957
doesnt exist,

[Anonymous No.10693096]

>>10692618
>Peterson smells some cash. He's all over it.

>communists and socialists
>cash

[Anonymous No.10693101]

>Zizek

[Anonymous No.10693111]

>>10693096
>imblying gommies exist
they're a spook desu

[Anonymous No.10693113]

>>10692486
i want to see mr dominos (whatever this dude's name is) debate peterson

[Anonymous No.10693120]

can someone explains to me why lit hates Peterson besides the fact that he's popular with the average joe? is it just because he's against marxism?

[Anonymous No.10693124]

>>10693120
Peterson is kind of a lame boomer, but contrarianism and
>because he's against marxism?
is the main reason.

[Anonymous No.10693127]

>>10693081
ROOM

[Anonymous No.10693130]

>>10693120
>he's popular with the average joe
>he's against marxism
both of these things yeah, having any sort of popularity with normies is enough to be hated anywhere on 4chan. Also the fact that he's spammed here a lot

[Anonymous No.10693134]

>>10693127
>>10693081
>>10693053
we did it reddit!

[Anonymous No.10693138]

>>10692993
Perfect meme dude!

[Anonymous No.10693147]

>>10693127
It's a reasonable proposition. If you can't keep not even your whole life but something as small as your everyday living space in proper order, how can you expect to tell anyone else what to do, and have them believe in you?

[Anonymous No.10693149]

Not sure if Zizek is even debatable with the way he tends to speak. Maybe if they gave them like 10-minute turns to present and rebuke...
That said, Zizek would eternally BTFO Memerson because he's an actual philosopher and not a psychologist who'd read Dosto, Nietzsche, Jung and Solzhenitsyn lmao. I can already see Peterson falling to his usual "world is malevolent and truth lets us win over the dragon of chaos and his postmodernist, neomarxist acolytes". Zizek is infinitely more capable of producing interesting ideas and would show Jords what a real dominance hierarchy feels like.

[Anonymous No.10693151]

THE DEBATE OF A LIFETIME! 2018 is gonna be a great year.

[Anonymous No.10693156]

>>10692167
I fucking knew it was inevitable. kek

[Anonymous No.10693158]

>>10693147
Yeah it is. In mental institutions they tell you to make your bed. Doing these little things make you feel like you're in control, there's order around you etc. It's still a meme though.

[Anonymous No.10693166]

>>10693130
>>10693124
>>10693120
>>10693124
I don't know why /lit/ hates him. I dislike him mainly because of his paranoid screaming about LGBTQ feminist crazies. He seems totally oblivious to the major backlash that sort of censorship receives in many quarters. The Atlantic, the New Yorker and countless other "left-wing bastions" routinely post pieces critical of these movements. Andrew Sullivan was one of the first to call #metoo a witch-hunt. He also wildly overstates the role this sort of discourse plays in making shitbirds into shitbirds. Pure boogeyman.

[Anonymous No.10693167]

WARSKI LIVE

[Anonymous No.10693168]

>>10693120
Because he's obscenely overrated and has a fanatical cult following that shills him everywhere (and throws their money at whatever has his name). Tons of normies unironically believe he's the greatest intellectual of our time.
He's absurd popularity defaces intellectual discourse.

[Anonymous No.10693174]

>>10693168
I think his absurd popularity is telling. Our intellectuals have ceased engaging with people in a way that is useful to them, he's filling a demand.

[Anonymous No.10693176]

>>10693158
Of course it's a meme. Any idea that proliferates via social contagion is a meme. All of the ideas you have are memetic by nature. That's not a real discreditation.

[Anonymous No.10693177]

>>10693043
No problem anon, thanks for the gif

[Anonymous No.10693179]

>>10693149
Zizek may be an actual philosopher but his oral skills are *sniffs* atrocious. This debate will be a mess.

[Anonymous No.10693182]

>>10693166
The Atlantic, NYT, etc. just wants the more radical Commnunists to clean up their act and stop making the left look bad. They're not fundamentally against left-wing censorship, barring a few token boomer Principled Liberals/Conservatives. If you want to see the future look at what the next generation of Communists at UC Berkeley are advocating for: hate speech laws and open borders are most notable. The US always moves left in the long run, so it's just a matter of time.

[Anonymous No.10693183]

>>10693174
He's a DADDY

[Anonymous No.10693186]

>>10693168
*His
Fuck me for that typo

[Anonymous No.10693193]

>>10692167
>Jacques Lacan wrote that, even if what a jealous husband claims about his wife (that she sleeps around with other men) is all true, his jealousy is still pathological

It's always about cuckoldry

every time

[Anonymous No.10693194]

>>10693176
It makes fun of his self-help tier advice. It's ok advice, but I wouldn't consider him a treat intellectual for it. He's only popular because his ideas are controversial.

[Anonymous No.10693199]

>>10693194
Top*
Fucking phone posting

[Anonymous No.10693201]

>>10692167
>zizek writes the way he talks
Ive heard zizek so many times that Id already memorised his talking points and lacanian quotes.

Peterson was exposed in that article, I always felt uneasy about that facist

[Anonymous No.10693203]

>>10693062
what's ur @

[Anonymous No.10693207]

>>10693201
>that facist
as a fascist I'm disgusted to be lumped in with that pleb

[Anonymous No.10693213]

>>10693149
I think they're too different. Zizek might be against Peterson's historical conspiracy theory and Peterson might be focussing on understanding people's current problems psychologically. I don't know what they could really debate about that they both could focus on if that makes sense?

[Anonymous No.10693227]

>>10693207
Zizek is the fascist

[Anonymous No.10693252]

>>10693149
>world is malevolent and truth lets us win over the dragon of chaos

The way he'd put emphasis on the malevolent and take a short break before carrying on the sentence. Why does he talk in platitudes and quips?

[Anonymous No.10693256]

Bump

[Anonymous No.10693360]

>>10693166
>Andrew Sullivan was one of the first to call #metoo a witch-hunt
nigga the right called that shit from day 1 who the fuck are you lying to
let the archive show that this fag is wrong

[Anonymous No.10693369]

>>10693166
you're delirious or haven't been in a university in years, let alone hung out with students

[Anonymous No.10693376]

>>10693201
I'd be down with fascism if we got to put people like you in camps

[Anonymous No.10693390]

Encyclopedia britannica says The Sublime Object of Ideology is his master piece.

[Anonymous No.10693393]

>>10692618
This. He's hoping to milk this for all the money and attention it'll get him. He's more interested in his own ego than ideas.

[Anonymous No.10693492]

>>10693360
you mean called it a witch-hunt when it wasn't one yet? the prosecution of actual crimes is not the same thing as a witch-hunt.

[Anonymous No.10693524]

>>10693369
let the archive show that even reid college had a backlash against fascist liberals. peterson is referring to a real problem, but wildly overstating it.

[Anonymous No.10693611]

>>10693524
> Fascist liberals
Stop.

[Anonymous No.10693647]

>>10692899
this has me really hyped for it, pls answer this someone >>10693626

I don't wanna miss this /comfy/ happening

[Anonymous No.10693660]

>>10693124
he doesn't strike me as contrarian, he strikes me as a broken alt-right record, but I don't know much about him beyond a cursory reading

but essentially, if you're truely contrarian you don't get the fanbase peterson has.

[Anonymous No.10693704]

>>10693611
t. high schooler

[Anonymous No.10693758]

>>10693660
>he doesn't strike me as contrarian, he strikes me as a broken alt-right record, but I don't know much about him beyond a cursory reading
Peterson endlessly rails against collectivism as leading to Nazism, so it's hard to consider him alt-right. All he does is say a few things that wouldn't be considered out of the ordinary in 1995 or so.

[Anonymous No.10693868]

gawd this thread is so fucking spooky.

[Anonymous No.10693880]

>>10693868
Stirner: insights of the gods, prescriptions of the mice

[Anonymous No.10693901]

>>10693660
I'm pretty sure he meant that contrarianism is part of why /lit/ doesn't like Peterson, not that Peterson practices contrarianism. Also Peterson is very much not alt-right, he's conservative/classical liberal

[Anonymous No.10693950]

who here has actually read less than nothing? hmm i wonder if memerson has?

[Anonymous No.10693957]

>>10693704
t. loser

[Anonymous No.10693959]

>>10693950
And I don't think Zizek's read Peterson's book either, what's your point?
(this guy's about to go for the ol' "lmao because he's a nobody" answer, just watch)

[Anonymous No.10693968]

>>10693901
>tfw we've gone so far left that conservatives are liberal

[Anonymous No.10693975]

>>10693968
Can you believe that

[Anonymous No.10693988]

>>10692681
I'd sell my left nut to have this happen tbqh

[Anonymous No.10694010]

>>10693901
Ahh I see, that's more sense (in regards to the contrarianism).

[Anonymous No.10694057]

no but I think JBP doesn't really have a good grasp on Zizeks ontology and is missing the point of the article. JBP is really putting his neck out there if he doesnt fix his ignorant pomo opinions and the bloody neo marxists trying to steal the princess from the dragon buckop

[Anonymous No.10694151]

>>10692337
Adam "6 million morski" Racewarski, obviously

[Anonymous No.10694164]

>>10692395
And when Simon Cowell hits the third X, it's off to the slime booth

[Anonymous No.10694241]

>>10692717
more like 2011-2014

[Anonymous No.10694247]

>>10693120
He's dumb and misreads everyone he talks about. Aside from this he pushes the cultural marxism boogeyman which is just embarrassing for any serious intellectual.

He is literally just a pseud.

[Anonymous No.10694255]

>>10693201
>>10693207
>>10693227
underrated exchange