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What actually died on the cross?

>> No.10647161

>>10647153
A world without cults.

>> No.10647169

>>10647153
a jew?

>> No.10647174

>>10647161
How so?

>> No.10647395

>>10647153
the only christian

>> No.10647420

death

>> No.10647423

The free world.

>> No.10647424

>>10647153
God died on the cross. Church is all that is left.

>> No.10647431

>>10647153
Pilate

>> No.10647436

>>10647161
Christianity significantly reduced the number of cults in the world.

>> No.10647475

>>10647436
No, Constantine did that. Early Christianity had many schools each adopting radically different doctrine.

>> No.10647517

>>10647153
Nothing died. Jesus turned into a zombie.

>> No.10647522

>>10647161
>implying the greeks weren't full cult tier at that time with their dumb mysteries

>> No.10647691

Three criminals

>> No.10647722

Nothing because Jesus didn't exist

>> No.10647726
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>>10647722
>Nothing because Jesus didn't exist

>> No.10648393

>nobody here has actually read the Gospels
it was Jesus you dumb cunts

>> No.10648409

>>10647395
Jesus was a jew soooo
(I assume that's who you're speaking of, because most people on 4chan wouldn't be speaking of the penitent thief)

>> No.10648429

>>10647153
a collection of atoms with specific spatio temporal coordinates

>> No.10648472

>>10647153
A dissident and traitor to Rome

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>>10647726
>Jesus existed and died in Judea during the reign of Vespasian

>> No.10648516

>>10647153
which one? a bunch of people died on a bunch of crosses. some not even on purpose.

>> No.10648527

Any evidence of a divine being capable of intervening in the world.

>> No.10648530

>>10647153
the qualia of absolute despair and shame for those who choose to believe

>> No.10648547

>>10647153
Any hope of unifying all humankind.

>> No.10648559

>>10648489
I fail to see the problem

>> No.10648588

Is this from Evangelion?

>> No.10648614

>>10647153
6000 of Spartacus' men

>> No.10648617

>>10647420
(You) deserve to be recognized for providing the true answer.

>> No.10648647

>>10647475
still true but memes unite them

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I would like to say,"the stigma of original sin " but that rubbish has made many a priest rich. So I will say a Martyr, not for all of us undeserving rabble,but for an ideal. That ideal being loving something so much you are willing to achieve your own painful destruction in order to spare it to others. He sincerely believed it,call it conviction or delusion, for it amounts to the same ends. In striving to gain us Heaven,I hope He made it to one Himself.

>> No.10650014

>>10647153
Just the latest in a line of Jewish scapegoats, promoted temporarily to "King of the Jews" to raise his sacrificial value.

Frazer explained all this a century ago. Read The Golden Bough.

>> No.10650027

Human authority. All we're left with is pure, unadulterated divine authority.

>> No.10650044

>>10647153
The last hope that neoliberalism might be overcome

>> No.10651367

>>10648478
Quality post.

>> No.10651376

>>10647153
It was actually three midgets in a seamless robe.

>> No.10651670

>>10648409
He actually meant Peter though

>> No.10651677

>>10648478
Nice

>> No.10651685

>>10647475
>Constantine did that
yeah... with Christianity

>> No.10651703

According to Nietzsche, the master mortality
But it’s probably possible that no one did. Islam says his apostles removed him from it and hid him in a cave for 3 days

>> No.10651748

>>10647161
Christianity started as a cult???

>> No.10651947

>>10647420
This

>> No.10652031

The human incarnation of the Son of God. Which he himself, is a part of god as well.

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>>10647153
Basically God is the prime mover who is omnipresent in causality and the reason he created everything was because it was not possible not to do so seeing as it is in the divine nature to become extrapolate for the purposes of instrumentality and the consummation of things, and further it was recently revealed to us with the Christ that it is in the divine nature to become communicable to man for the purposes of man being made communicable to God. One thing is certain, if you do not die, you're not one of us, death is the context within which life, human life, carries on, so by God himself dying not only plainly and physically but also in spiritual aridity and misery, we then are able, by tracing his steps in reverse, to commune with God and participate in the beatific vision and life of the spirit which has produced a way of thinking which is extremely precarious and particular to the post-Christian civilized world. Had Christ not come, no consistent domestic life at this scale could have ever arisen, because no pre-Christian system of thought could bequeath to mankind those particular normative suppositions from which our high-academic institutions and moral standards have been born.

>> No.10652055

>>10651670
not by them pictures; Peter was crucified upside down

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>>10647161
>>10647424
>>10647395
>>10647517
>>10648547
pic.

>>10647153
All causes for hatred and strife died on the cross, OP.

>> No.10652062

>>10650044
neoliberalism is the result of the secularism that came out of protestantism that came out of catholicism that came from jesus

>> No.10652067

>>10652056
So Jesus was the cause for hatred and strife?

>> No.10652080

>>10652067
No, Jesus is the mythical (eternally-dying) sacrifice that generates catharsis. To accept Christ is to forgive wrong, to let it go from you. This severs the chains of vengeance, of retribution, and why he is called the prince of peace.

>> No.10652770

>>10647153
Jar Jar Binks

>> No.10652840

According to the Qur'an I read in college, it was not Jesus on the cross but Judas made up to look like Jesus

>> No.10652855

Our sins

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>>10647161
>There weren't cults before Christianity

>> No.10652981

>>10652840
They surely have some sort of explanation for this.
>hey we wanna kill this king of jews he sure is causing a lot of rabble
>>well let me tell you where he is
>haha okay btw we'll kill you instead if thats ok??

>> No.10653445

>>10647722
He was all too real

>> No.10653477

3 jewish criminals

>> No.10653539

>>10652840
Totally not Jewish propaganda

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>>10647420

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>>10650014
>he hasn't seen the shroud of Turin

>> No.10653575

>>10647153
The Hope of a vengeful God.

>> No.10653890

>>10647161
Don't make me blow the dust off my fedora folder.

>> No.10653893

>>10647169
bless you

>> No.10653894

>>10647153
the last christian died on the cross

>> No.10653897

>>10647153
le jesus

>> No.10654670

>>10653573
Hi Dan Brown.