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What is philosophy even supposed to do after this guy?

>> No.10641472

Actually be worth something in the form of Analytic Phil.

>> No.10641480

nothing, he ended philosophy

>> No.10641499

>Everything that Nietzsche cannot do is bad.

>Nietzsche could do much more than he does; but his strong principles prevent him.

>Everything that Nietzsche can do, no one will ever be able to do after him, no one has ever done before him, and no one must ever do after him. Nietzsche is godly.

>These three propositions are the quintessence of Nietzsche's writings;—the rest is merely—“literature”.

t. nietzsche, shortly before faking mental illness out of shame

>> No.10641515

>>10641499
Out of shame of what?

>> No.10641534

>>10641515
Being Nietzsche

>> No.10641538

>>10641472
Delusional *nglos at it again

>> No.10641840

Awesome, I just heard about this guy from Pewds! *brofist*

>> No.10641852

>>10641465
you are supposed to go literally insane and start screaming incoherently about antisemites

>> No.10641880

>>10641465
How are you supposed to kiss a girl on the lips with that mustache

>> No.10641927

>>10641880
meant to prevent all interaction

>Knowing one's “Individuality”.—We too often forget that in the eyes of strangers who see us for the first time we are quite different beings from what we consider ourselves to be—in most cases we exhibit nothing more than one particular characteristic which catches the eye of the stranger, [pg 295] and determines the impression we make on him. Thus the most peaceful and fair-minded man, if only he has a big moustache, may, as it were, repose in the shade of this moustache; for ordinary eyes will merely see in him the accessory of a big moustache, that is to say, a military, irascible, and occasionally violent character, and will act accordingly. (the dawn of day #381)

>> No.10641936

But Niethchze is dumb

>> No.10642028

>>10641927
>its fucking real
Holyshit I can't never get enough of this guy lmao
Why did he think he should add that passage into one of his books? What the fuck?

>> No.10642095

>>10641936
See>>10641927

He was on 5D chess mode all the time; literally the complete opposite of dumb. He was actually one of the few legit cases of the "tfw too intelligent to X" meme.

>> No.10642115

>>10641465
Nietzsche's works aren't worth the paper they're printed on. Everything he wrote was a momentary epiphany with no real grounding, as evidenced by the fact that his own positions were constantly flipping this way and that. The only ideas he had which remained stable were his worst. On top of this, his writing sucks; he focuses too much on himself and can never get to the point. He takes longer to get to the point than even Hegel would have dared, and he started a long line of philosophers who substituted poetic nonsense for philosophy in their works. He was the end of philosophy because he made philosophy a joke.

>> No.10642176

i came to know nietzsche my last year of high school, he’s studied quite intensively in my country (italy). i adored and felt literally possessed by everything i was reading from him. in my early twenties due to embarrassing edgeism i quit nietzsche and digged myself into more recent philosophy, fearing out of insecurity that i was missing important and emergent matters of our times. fortunately i’ve also read literature and, ya know, learned from life. in the last 2 years i returned to nietzsche and read all of him, and GOD everything valuable i though i was getting from literature, philosophy, life insights and so on is already contained in nietzsche. he has embedded a shocking pollen in some simple lines that less acute minds have barely scraped in hundreds pages of hard work. the way he could understand anything is unparalleled. i respect him more than ever, especially considering how increasingly obscurantist most people tend to be nowadays, wasting tons of words to encrypt via dilution and irony the most basic shit

>> No.10642218

Who was in the wrong here?

>>10642115
>>10642176

>> No.10642228

>>10641927
This is the best thing I've ever read

>> No.10642234

>>10641927
insightful and also explains what was up the moustache

>> No.10642235

>>10642218
Guy #2

>> No.10642251

>>10642235
no not at all, at every """""""""""Critique"""""""""" reeks of midwit and low attention span, bad working memory, disorganized thinker, and not capable of abstraction or reconciling paradoxes. There's little in his work which is contradictory. I think that anon has a bad mind, and is excited easily by words that appear in different contexts which would, on superficial reading, reflect contradiction. And this is all speaking as if contradiction is bad or as if poetic speech isn't superior to didactic thought.

>> No.10642272

>>10642235
no im all right!

>> No.10642287

>>10642251
"My to-day refuteth my yesterday"

>> No.10642301

>>10641465
Actually produce something beyond shallow rhetoric.

>> No.10642307

>>10642301
Impossible

>> No.10642311

What IS philosophy even supposed to do?

>> No.10642325

Nietzsche fails in the same way Plato does.
Put simply he's too much of an idealist.
For a very long time now humankind has failed to live up to the ideas of men like these and they will continue to do so for longer still.

>> No.10642339

>>10642325
i don't think u understood nietzsche

>> No.10642341

>>10642325
What is it about Nietzsche that attracts idiots?

>> No.10642348

>>10642311
What is philosophy?

>> No.10642350

>>10642341
the athiesm probably

>> No.10642354

>>10642341
he’s popular for his influence on literally everything from ‘900, so he’s in the spotlight

>> No.10642894
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>>10641927
What a guy

>> No.10644000

>>10641465
> If anyone doubted that the Christian world of today has reached a frightful state of
> torpor and brutalization (not forgetting the recent crimes committed in the Boers and
> in China, which were defended by the clergy and acclaimed as heroic feats by all the
> world powers), the extraordinary success of Nietzche's works is enough to provide
> irrefutable proof of this. Some disjointed writings, striving after effect in a most sordid
> manner, appear, written by a daring, but limited and abnormal German, suffering
> from power mania. Neither in talent nor in their basic argument do these writings
> justify public attention. In the days of Kant, Leibniz or Hume, or even fifty years ago,
> such writings would not only have received no attention, but they would not even
> have appeared. But today all the so-called educated people are praising the ravings
> of Mr N, arguing about him, elucidating him, and countless copies of his works are
> printed in all languages.
No one can BTFO him more than Big T.

>> No.10644029

>>10644000
Holyshit how can someone fuck up a post this badly

>> No.10644061

>>10641840
Well mem'd

>> No.10644065

>>10641880
You kisser on the other lips ;)

>> No.10645189

>>10644000
don't even know the quote and I know it's T.S. Eliot. what a bellend he was.

>> No.10645253

>>10645189
Tolstoy, you dip.

>> No.10645260

Pretend he never happened

>> No.10645327

>>10644000
basically a whole lotta nothing in that quote
>i hate him so he's bad!

>> No.10645756

Goonan

>> No.10647392

>>10641465
refound reason

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>>10641465
>implying calling the "will to live" something else resolves the problems inherent in personal existence.

Premise 1: Privations are not qualities in themselves
Premise 2: appetites are privations
Premise 3: It is necessary for there to be appetites (in the form of wants needs and impulses) for there to be personal being

-Harm is the privation of Benefit just as Bad is the privation of Good
-A Being can be benefitted or harmed on the basis of its personal wants, needs and impulses (whatever those may be) being either fulfilled or exacerbated respectively
-A maximization of benefit is the fulfillment and nullification of the entire record of wants needs and impulses
-A being without appetites fails to be a personal being (premise 3)
-The maximization of benefit engenders a condition already satisfied in the non-existence of a personal being
-therefore to come into existence is also to be harmed

>> No.10647447

>>10642115
But what is the critique of Nietzsche, without fallacies, where did he go wrong? Has anyone answered this well? I've only ever seen vague problems and personal attacks.
I have my own ideas, but I wonder what the best critiques out there are.

>> No.10647502

>>10644000
wasted digits and this isn’t an own its just whining

>> No.10647963

>>10641927
This is hilarious

>> No.10648002

>>10647434
There seem to be some glaring flaws here. This is the rhetorical equivalent of "proving" 1=2

>> No.10648046

>>10648002
Feel free to point out the flaw then

>> No.10648650

>>10641927
this sounds memey but moustaches were a pretty recognizable military trait

>> No.10648680

>>10641927
Same reason I grow repulsively long hair, have a neck beard that looks like a hastily glued handful of pubes, and never shower.

>> No.10648725

>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/opinion/black-lives-matter-philosophy.html

this is the second time the nytimes published a op-ed by black professors who referred to themselves as "philosophers". of course both merely wrote about "muh white supremisah" not much to do with philosophy, but i couldn't think of a single instance of a white philosophy professor referring to themselves as a philosopher. is it just that black dudes are always shameless braggadocios or what?

>> No.10649120

>>10648046
benefit is not derived from a state of fulfillment but the act of fulfilling.

>> No.10650242

>>10648725
Nah bros all races are equal :)

>> No.10650244

>>10641465
be a neetch scholar
or this >>10641472

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>>10641465
We start arguing about which values other people should support, or, if you don't care about other beings holding your values, living authentically.

>> No.10651033

>>10641472
>Analytic philosophy is worth something!
>Oh, really, what has it accomplished?
>It's not supposed to accomplish anything, idiot!
every time

>> No.10651045

Phenomenology

>> No.10651052

>>10642115
>he doesnt fit muh white ideal so hes bad!!!!!!! KILL ALL KIKES

>> No.10651056

>>10642325
He's not an idealist, quite the contrary.
>>10642350
He's not an atheist, quite the contrary.

>> No.10651065

>>10641465
Exactly the post!

>> No.10651076

He'll likely be forgotten in a billion years. Meaningless.

>> No.10651081

>>10651076
You never know

>> No.10651087

Can we go one day without talking about this fuckface? He just complains about both sides of an argument and doesn’t give any solutions to the questions

>> No.10651091

>>10651056
not settled either way, quite the contrary
not even by himself

>> No.10651165

>>10651045
But that shit is so gay

>> No.10651172

>>10651087
And why does that make you so mad?

>> No.10651201

>>10651172
Because if you don’t provide any useful alternatives to the problem or argument then you’re just shitposting

>> No.10651893

>>10651201
No.

>> No.10651928
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>>10641927
>OMG DUDE NIETSZCHE WAS A GENIUS HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING SO INSIGHTFUL LOL
wtf, I have more insightful thoughts on the shitter.

>> No.10652244

>>10651201
Holy fucking shit just end it all

>> No.10654002

either laugh at him or just plain ignore him