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Anonymous Sat Feb 3 01:30:06 2018 No.10632559 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /lit/. Anyone wanna discuss VALIS with me? Not necessarily first, but you can (re)read it and we'll discuss it at a set time, kinda like a book club.

https://discord.gg/pab94P

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 01:44:16 2018 No.10632620 Bump.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 01:46:18 2018 No.10632626 Rebump. Since when do you need to bump so often on /lit/?

Anonymous Sat Feb 3 02:29:56 2018 No.10632779

>>10632559
i haven't read it. i read the first few chapters i think. the intuitive (i.e. bullshit) impression i get from the book and Philip K. Dick's life in general is this: reading vast amounts of mystical and philosophical literature from different traditions in a shallow way instead of intensely studying one leaves you in a muddled position. not willing to plunge deeply perhaps. in one of his interviews he talks about being extremely sensitive to being manipulated by the views of others such that he'll strongly believe things that people say and in general be dangerously swayed by other thinkers. i think that he spread himself out too much and had too much stuff going around in his head. i think that the fact that he was a very famous and very unique author probably messed with him a lot as well. also i think that he may have been very egotistical about his learnedness, which i think messes up a lot of learned people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 02:32:18 2018 No.10632787 >>10632620 >>10632626 maybe your thread is shit idk

Anonymous Sat Feb 3 03:20:50 2018 No.10632888

>>10632779
From my exposure to Hinduism and Dick, it seems like he portrays the former accurately. Regarding Gnosticism, however, I don't know. This idea of every individual consciousness being part of a universal consciousness is something hinted at in mysticism, but never as explicit as in Dick, as far as I know. But he also doesn't claim to be portraying any mysticism accurately, he has his own ideas.

VALIS reads like a normal novel by a mature author to me. Some of the things that happen are strange, but it's similar to other novels in that it only uses the story as a vehicle for contemplation. And the contemplation itself is spot-on: it articulates emotions like despair perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 03:37:16 2018 No.10632914 >>10632559 I gotta know: are the dark divisions in the pages hardback dividers or just thick, dark pages?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 03:54:58 2018 No.10632933 >>10632914 They're covers. They're multiple books stacked on top of each other. The one at the bottom is especially huge.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 04:09:16 2018 No.10632953 >>10632787 :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 05:35:59 2018 No.10633120 Rebump.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 10:52:07 2018 No.10634036 Bump.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 11:00:31 2018 No.10634070 Ultrabump.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 3 13:52:53 2018 No.10634825 Very nice.

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