/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.10623629]

FINAL SHILLDOWN edition

>who do you like shilling?
>who do you not like seeing being shilled?

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previous Threads:
>>10611462
>>10601787
>>10587828
>>10576746
>>10561509

[Anonymous No.10623672]

>>10623629
>>who do you like shilling?
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[Anonymous No.10623701]

I don't think the utterly tasteless individuals in this thread read enough Cherryh.

[Anonymous No.10623724]

sanderfag a hack

[Anonymous No.10623752]

>>10623724
At least he tries. I would say it's more that he's found a formula that is obviously popular and has no real intention of deviating from it. Look at the youtube videos of his lectures and it's obvious he's got clear framework for what he wants his writing to be.

[Anonymous No.10623907]

>>10623724
>>10623752
I think Sanderson is very dedicated, but not very skillful. He has a vision, he strives to accomplish his goals, and he really does seem to love writing. He's just not great at it. I've read worse, but I've also read better. I honestly hope Sanderson does improve, because if he does, it'll be gold for us, as long as he keeps writing books at the same rate he does now.

[Anonymous No.10623918]

>>10623629
>who do you like shilling
whoever wrote the ranger's apprentice books
>who do i not like seeing shilled
brent weeks. that guy is an awful writer.

[Anonymous No.10623986]

Webnovels are novels too

[Anonymous No.10624018]

8th for Why haven't you read Daniel Black yet?
https://williamscorner.blog/

[Anonymous No.10624023]

>>10623991
>What's GRI?

Gay, Rape, Incest.

[Anonymous No.10624108]

>>10623337
Expand my horizons to read a bit of fantasy I mean, just because I've never really read any. I've read Ada's wild meme ride.

[Anonymous No.10624169]

>>10623991

[Anonymous No.10624180]

>>10624160
leave palmer alone she's trying

[Anonymous No.10624283]

>>10623629
>>who do you like shilling?
Adam Roberts, John C. Wright, Dreamy Pierce Brown, /poul/.

>>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
Some anon who's so scared he won't get a chance to post his epik shoop that he starts a new thread while the last one's still bumping.

[Anonymous No.10624330]

We're reading The Shadow Over Innsmouth!

I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream (which received the second most votes) will be automatically nominated next month, the others will be banned from next months vote. (Feel free to complain if you think this rule is full retard)

Read online: www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/soi.aspx
I'm sure you can download an epub or audiobook somewhere (fuck year public domain) and if you want to read a physical book your local library should have it.

[Anonymous No.10624358]

>>10624330
I've been meaning to finish SOI, so sure, count me in.

[Anonymous No.10624367]

>>10623701
I agree and I've never read any Cherryh.

[Anonymous No.10624396]

Thoughts on her body of work?

[Anonymous No.10624401]

>>10624396
Probably would.

[Anonymous No.10624413]

>>10623629
>who do you like shilling?
Wolfe.
>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
Sanderson, Bakker, Erikson and especially when someone ironically shill Rothfuss. Also webnovels and such nonsense.

[Anonymous No.10624414]

>>10624396
that's the body you get when you don't do any work, anon

[Anonymous No.10624418]

>>10624330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZrqYn5f_0
recommending this version for the audiobook for people that like it.
wayne june has a great deep voice that suits the mood and pace of the story.
also theres a videogame made after it which is pretty damn excellent: call of cthulhu: dark corners of earth. http://store.steampowered.com/app/22340
it kinda looses itself a bit halfway through the game but its still very excellent the atmosphere and horror elements are great.

[Anonymous No.10624424]

>>10624396
Mediocre, but not terrible. Hilariously diverse. (only read Broken Earth trilogy)

[Anonymous No.10624427]

>>10623629

>who do you like shilling?
Nobody in particular, though I do have a strange soft spot for most of Joe Abercrombie's work.

>who do you not like seeing being shilled
Patrick fucking Rothfuss. Fuck that guy. I even liked the first book for the most part, but fuck that fat, lying cunty arrogant piece of lardass fucking shit. Holding his shit third book hostage because he knows that the book is shit, and that after it's released he won't ever again write anything anybody will want to read. Fuck him.

[Anonymous No.10624428]

>>10624413
>Sanderson, Bakker, Erikson and especially when someone ironically shill Rothfuss. Also webnovels and such nonsense.

What's left then?

[Anonymous No.10624433]

>>10624428
Fucking dinosaurs my dude

[Anonymous No.10624435]

>>10624424
*I have only read

[Anonymous No.10624441]

>>10624330
nice.

[Anonymous No.10624444]

>>10624428
cixin liu

[Anonymous No.10624456]

>>10624418
>wayne june
"A singular strike!"

[Anonymous No.10624465]

>>10624427
>I even liked the first book for the most part,
I have to ask, why? I'm honestly baffled that his work could ever appeal to anyone.

[Anonymous No.10624474]

>>10624465

I was young, and it seemed fun and mindless page-turning entertainment. It came out in 2007 man, it's been a while. I've grown.

[Anonymous No.10624478]

>>10624465
cause it's mindless wish fulfillment
desu it's baffling how popular rothfuss became

[Anonymous No.10624488]

>>10623629
I will shill Jamiroquai until I die.

[Anonymous No.10624513]

>>10624330
This looks promising e-bookwise: https://archive.org/details/TheCompleteWorksOfHPLovecraft_201412

[Anonymous No.10624563]

>>10624330
>tfw have giant "Complete Works" volume but it's riddled with horrific typos

[Anonymous No.10624573]

>>10624330
Alright I’ll aftually read this one then, I could use some Lovecraft to distract me from my ketamine-induced bladder cystitis

[Anonymous No.10624579]

>>10624563
Might be whatever program they used to transcribe the pages messed up. I read a pirated ebook that had that problem near the end which made it almost unintelligible.

[Anonymous No.10624587]

>>10624573
Yeesh. Hope you get better soon.

[Anonymous No.10624588]

>>10624579
Yeah, but this was commercially published by B&N as a hardbound book. I'm used to OCR typos on ebooks.

[Anonymous No.10624593]

>>10624588
Jesus, really? If that happened to me I'd be pissed.

[Anonymous No.10624607]

>>10624593
It's bad enough I think they should have offered refunds. In my case I picked it up used, so I'm just disappointed.

[Anonymous No.10624624]

>>10624427
>Abercrombie
Do you have the screenshot of that Goodreads review?

[Anonymous No.10624651]

>>10624396
Do you think she squeals and squirts when she is stuck?... bbl porn

[Anonymous No.10624711]

>implying that the worst book series isn't <your favorite series>

[Anonymous No.10624715]

Anyone read this shit?
Got it for free, wondering if it's worth a read. it's bretty long and im a slow reader. And is it another ironic fantasybook written by a collegestudent like most new fantasy books? because if it is then i will burn it

[Anonymous No.10624753]

>>10624715
what a gay title
desu it would be way more interesting to read a story about a peaceful mage at this point

[Anonymous No.10624761]

>>10624753
>it would be way more interesting to read a story about a peaceful mage at this point
Consume less soy.

[Anonymous No.10624772]

>>10624761
>it doesn't matter if it's generic if it's manly
now i realize why people look down on readers of genre fiction

[Anonymous No.10624781]

>>10624715
Someone reported being pleasantly surprised by that book a few threads ago.
I remember it because of the incredibly generic cover and title.

[Anonymous No.10624804]

>>10624781
>>10624753
it has good review but so does a lot of other shit. i thought you guys read everything.

[Anonymous No.10624822]

>>10624804
i don't read anything

[Anonymous No.10624826]

>>10624804
As I said, it looks generic as fuck, so most people here probably wouldn't pick it up.

[Anonymous No.10624856]

>>10624826
ey. dont judge a book by its cover

[Anonymous No.10624859]

>>10624761
Actually soymilk is quite nice and doesn't upset the digestion.

[Anonymous No.10624870]

>>10624804
>i thought you guys read everything.
Not if it was published this millennium.

[Anonymous No.10624887]

>>10624856
>dont judge a book by its cover
this is kinda dumb tho
When you see a self-published novel with a garbage cover, you know the author either has no taste or no ability to find someone capable of making a good cover. maybe this applies to traditionally published books where the publisher does the cover

[Anonymous No.10624963]

>>10624887
I guess this isn't worth reading then.

[Anonymous No.10624987]

>>10624963
You don't like it? Looks quintessentially British to me.

[Anonymous No.10625047]

>>10624396
The Fifth Season books have been pretty good, hopefully she keeps it up. Everything she wrote previously was hot garbage.

[Anonymous No.10625054]

>>10624588
Huh. I have the B&N Lovecraft book and it was fine.

[Anonymous No.10625071]

>>10625047
This

[Anonymous No.10625074]

>>10625054
>Huh. I have the B&N Lovecraft book and it was fine.
What edition you got mate? I have the first. Supposedly they revised it for later ones.

[Anonymous No.10625088]

Anything similar out there to The Promised Neverland? Creepy fantasy setting with kids forced to grow up or die in horrific ways? Monsters? Demons?

[Anonymous No.10625108]

>>10625088
Orphans of Chaos

[Anonymous No.10625155]

>>10624283
>Some anon who's so scared
niBBa I worked long and hard watching those YouTube tutorials on GimpShop to construct this, fucking the Wizard-anon from the last thread

[Anonymous No.10625158]

>>10623629
>who do you like shilling?
Mieville, Baxter and R.A. Lafferty

>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
No one really, except when a Sanderson book comes out and floods the next three threads with "safe hand" stuff

[Anonymous No.10625169]

>>10625155

[Anonymous No.10625185]

>>10625155
>he can't just use regular gimp or PDN

[Anonymous No.10625399]

I can't find anything new to read I like, why must this suffering be

[Anonymous No.10625417]

>>10625399
Then read something bad and do a commentary/review of it. Reading a Wordpress about a guy trashing the Kingkiller Chronicles was a hell of a time.

[Anonymous No.10625418]

>>10624772
See: >>10624761

[Anonymous No.10625548]

>>10624781
So generic there's literally another book named Battle Mage (but published by a real publisher and not amazon)

[Anonymous No.10625550]

>>10625548
What makes them real publishers? Selling less?

[Anonymous No.10625564]

>>10625550
i mean at some point they had to pass through a reader so they hopefully aren't complete garbage (i know, i know...)

[Anonymous No.10625575]

>>10625564
Depressing, isn't it.

[Anonymous No.10625709]

>>10625550
Editing, actual advertising/promotion, contract work (eg in the retrospectives he posts online David Drake occasionally notes contract stuff like one he had with Tor where he'd write one book for $60k and another for $20k), and the possibility that the book will be rejected.

And actual profits beyond pocket money I suppose.

[Anonymous No.10625769]

>>10624108
>>10623119
It's about wizards and vulcans fighting aliens and demons, and half the word count is graphic descriptions of gay rape and incest. How you react to that summary should give you a good idea of whether or not you'll like it.

[Anonymous No.10625772]

>>10625709
tbf most authors don't get big contracts or even large advances.

>And actual profits beyond pocket money I suppose.
if you self-publish your ebooks you can make a lot more than if you go the traditional route cause your royalty percentage is oftentimes over twice as much. Just look at Barry Eisler turning down a $2 million advance from St. Martin's to publish with Amazon.

[Anonymous No.10625779]

Anyone who doesn't understand the fundamental appeal of Rothfuss has no potential as an author.

[Anonymous No.10625801]

>>10625709
>Editing
Very important, newbie self-publishers often underrate this. You can hire an editor, though, there are some reputable ones out there.
>actual advertising/promotion
If you're Stephen King. Nobodies have to get a Twitter account and pray.
>contract work
Not often for multiple books.
>the possibility that the book will be rejected.
Also big, but not necessarily an indication of quality.
>And actual profits beyond pocket money
N.K. Jemisin won a Hugo and kept her day job. She had to beg on Patreon to get enough to quit, and she's a major meme.

Meanwhile Larry Correia bought a mountain.

[Anonymous No.10625849]

Brandon Sanderson's books are to literature what Skyrim is to videogames.

He somehow manages not to excel at any facet of his work. To borrow from Bloom, he has no discernible talent. His dialogue is stilted and uninteresting. His characters feel more like plot-convenient afterthoughts than people. The plots themselves are generic filler, somehow managing to be even less interesting than million get-to-the-end-of-the-dungeon quests of Skyrim. His prose is "workmanlike" or "inoffensive" (read: shit) in the way that combat in Skyrim is "inoffensive". I challenge Sanderson fans (?) to name one thing that he does better than passably: one single thing he is actually good at.

The most common response to this is Sanderson's worldbuilding. Like Skyrim his worlds impress you at first with their scale and detail, but even this is quickly revealed to be flat and cliched. How many times can Sanderson get away with his utterly inane caste-system-attempting-to-be-some-kind-of-political-allegory?

>but muh magic system
Even if you're a fan of the sub-genre consisting of explaining everything about magic until it ceases to be magic (why would you be?), Brandon Sanderson does not do this particularly well. His magic basically devolves into people flying around and hitting each other because Sanderson (and his fans (?)) think this is the height of entertainment. People describe his works as anime but it should be specified that it's the anime aimed primarily at 10 year old japanese boys (yum).

>muh cosmere
Fans (?) of Sanderson think of him as some kind of genius and of his books as some kind of unified masterpiece because "it happens in the same universe xd". The "co-smere" is the shitsmear on the toilet-bowl which is his writing. Sanderson insults his readers (?) by using a gimmick originally conceived to sell capeshit with lacklustre tie-ins.

>B-But he writes fast
More evidence of him being a shit writer. It takes time to write and all the best fantasy authors spend a long time on their works to ensure we get the highest quality (see for example Rothfuss).

>you haven't even read all his books
No shit. I've read enough to make a judgement.

The only possible justification for people reading his mediocre works that I can think of is a desperate attempt to fill in the hours between now and the time they die. At least Skyrim has loli/shota(yum) mods. The fact that Sanderson's target audience is 14 year old mormons stops him on this front too.

Read BoTNS

[Anonymous No.10625889]

>>10625801
>N.K. Jemisin won a Hugo and kept her day job. She had to beg on Patreon to get enough to quit, and she's a major meme.
>Meanwhile Larry Correia bought a mountain.
Based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.10625894]

>>10625772
>>10625801
People who self-publish and are wildly successful are not the median (or mean? I can never remember which is which), they're exceptions to the rule, and as is exemplified by N.K. Jemisin have to really work and get lucky to reach where they are. Meanwhile say, some guy writing Hornblower/Honor Harrington space operas or somebody writing a fantasy heartbreaker about their D&D game or somebody writing niche fantasy Brorotica (eg Wild Wastes) or LitRPG authors are gonna make a bit of money, but probably not enough to live off of.

It's a Spiders Georg situation. Chuck Tingle lives in Florida and writes 10,000 "Pounded in the Butt" books per day, but he's a outlier and should not be counted.

>>10625849
>Brandon Sanderson's books are to literature what Skyrim is to videogames.

I don't really like his stuff, the writing is workmanlike and the books are essentially the airport novels of fantasy, but that's wrong:

Unlike Bethesda, Sanderson's books are finished when they are released, and he does not rely on his fans to finish them.

[Anonymous No.10625897]

>>10623918
>hs isn't waiting for tight pussy part 2
Look at this faggot.

[Anonymous No.10625899]

>>10625779
>the fundamental appeal of Rothfuss
What, cuckoldry?

[Anonymous No.10625905]

>>10625889
>After returning home from his mission, he got married before graduating with an accounting degree. After working as an accountant for several years
That just proves there's absolutely no money in writing

[Anonymous No.10625910]

>>10625548
>(but published by a real publisher and not amazon)
It's cute you think "published by a real publisher" means anything in regards to quality.

[Anonymous No.10625919]

>>10625905
what? i thought correia quit his accounting day job for writing full time. anyways if you look at his sales ranks and extrapolate the amount he gets in royalties from amazon, it's very substantial. too bad the pace of his writing seems to have slowed a lot lately

[Anonymous No.10625926]

>>10625910
hello Theodore.

[Anonymous No.10625929]

>>10625894
>but that's wrong
It's a metaphor mate, they're obviously not exactly the same.
They're both commercially successful works despite being in any way interesting or novel.

[Anonymous No.10625932]

>>10625801
>N.K. Jemisin won a Hugo and kept her day job. She had to beg on Patreon to get enough to quit, and she's a major meme.

tbf winning a Hugo doesn't mean that much. some of the stuff that appeals to the Hugo crowd is completely unmarketable to the general genre fiction audience

[Anonymous No.10625933]

>>10625919
And? He clearly has shekels stored up. Making a living from books isn't easy:
1: It takes 5 seconds to download a book
2: Libraries exist so even tards who don't know how to download a book can get it for free
3: No one reads nowadays

[Anonymous No.10625937]

Is this all you people do? Bitch about how good writers are and how much they make?

[Anonymous No.10625946]

>>10625937
Ready Player One is a mark of quality.

[Anonymous No.10625955]

Sturgeon?

[Anonymous No.10625957]

>>10625937
Not really. Anons have their dander up about something right now I guess.

[Anonymous No.10625962]

>>10625929
I'm saying that despite how successful they are, the majority, the vast majority, of other self published authors will never meet with the same level of success writing stuff that's either more or less or equally interesting/novel.

>>10625933
1 is offset somewhat by Baen having a very loyal reader base due to how they were one of the first SFF publishers to really push ebooks.

[Anonymous No.10625964]

>>10625946
Anything in pop culture that tries to make money from gaming nostalgia deserves to burn.

[Anonymous No.10625975]

>>10625926
Hi Scalzi

[Anonymous No.10625976]

>>10625962
DRM free ebooks on CDs stuck inside print books no less.

[Anonymous No.10625984]

>>10623629
>who do you like shilling?
Bakker, Watts, Mieville, Brent Weeks, Wolfe, not sff but John Fowles
>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
Sanderson, that Daughter of the Empire book

[Anonymous No.10625989]

>>10625933
>He clearly has shekels stored up.
Nigga, he quit a real job to write genre fiction based off some shit he wrote on a gun forum way back in the day. Do you really think this guy would quit work for the artistic vision of books about shooting monsters in the face? Anyways based on stuff he wrote on his blog about how much he makes, one of his books made him approximately $50,000 in royalties in just 6 months.

>>10625937
It's like you can't even read.

[Anonymous No.10625992]

>>10625962
Please point out where in your post you were saying that.

[Anonymous No.10626024]

>>10624987
>i will change my tune because i got caught
Hobbit and Tolkien books are shit regardless

[Anonymous No.10626029]

>>10625399
Wild wastes and Daniel Black

[Anonymous No.10626032]

>>10625992
>People who self-publish and are wildly successful are (...) exceptions to the rule

[Anonymous No.10626047]

>>10625989
>It's like you can't even read.
It's like you can't even answer a question.

[Anonymous No.10626073]

>>10625984
>likes bakker and breeks
>doesn't like Sanderson
How could you exist?

[Anonymous No.10626088]

>>10626032
I wasn't responding to that part of your post though. You said :

>I don't really like his stuff, the writing is workmanlike and the books are essentially the airport novels of fantasy, but that's wrong:
(reddit space)
>Unlike Bethesda, Sanderson's books are finished when they are released, and he does not rely on his fans to finish them.

[Anonymous No.10626093]

>>10626073
See >>10625849

[Anonymous No.10626094]

Just finished the new Alastair Reynolds, am I the only one?

[Anonymous No.10626132]

>>10626024
I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.10626136]

>>10625894
>as is exemplified by N.K. Jemisin
She's traditionally published and way above the median for that cohort.

[Anonymous No.10626140]

>>10625962
The vast majority of traditionally published authors also need day jobs.

[Anonymous No.10626207]

>>10625984
>Bakker, Watts, Mieville, Brent Weeks, Wolfe
>including Based Wolfe with that garbage

[Anonymous No.10626245]

>>10626207
>Based

eh

[Anonymous No.10626304]

>>10625074
I checked, it's the second printing. That would explain it.

I don't think you're going to have any luck returning a used book.

[Anonymous No.10626322]

>>10625894
Brandon books got a lot of shit, but lack a bit of soul or character depth.

That's the metaphor.

And i actually love Sanderson books (mostly because he constantly dish good if not great books)

[Anonymous No.10626324]

>>10625550
Editing, for sure. >>10625564 in theory but that's a crapshoot. The real reason about 50-40-10 editing, marketing, and curation.

[Anonymous No.10626336]

>>10626093
I don't want to read your stolen pasta.

[Anonymous No.10626342]

>>10625932
>some of the stuff that appeals to the Hugo crowd is completely unmarketable to the general genre fiction audience

"Best Novel" is should be something that broadly appeals to the SF audience at least. Most of the retardation is in the other categories (including, unfortunately, Best Short Story).

[Anonymous No.10626352]

>>10626047
The answer is no.

[Anonymous No.10626369]

>>10625984
>Mieville
I need to catch up on him, haven't read anything in a couple of years.

>John Fowles
I've had The Magus sitting around forever, need to get to it one of these days.

[Anonymous No.10626383]

>>10626304
>I don't think you're going to have any luck returning a used book.
I meant for new books. It's not like I got cheated out of that $1, just disappointed it wasn't as cool as I thought.

[Anonymous No.10626397]

>>10623629
>>who do you like shilling?
Wolfe, Watts, John C. Wright, PKD, Lovecraft, Lem
I also occasionally defend the honor of Dune

>>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
Sanderson, Bakker, Red Rising, Weeks

[Anonymous No.10626402]

>>10626336
That pasta was freely given and is licensed for all noncommercial use.

[Anonymous No.10626412]

>>10626383
Maybe it'll be worth a bundle in the future.

[Anonymous No.10626433]

>>10626336
>>10626402
It was licensed under the wtfpl, it's available for ALL use.
http://www.wtfpl.net/about/

[Anonymous No.10626447]

>>10626433
Under the terms of that license I relicensed the pasta under Creative Commons Non-Commercial, sorry.

[Anonymous No.10626461]

>>10626369
The magus was the first book of his I read. They're all (except Mantissa) really good though. Daniel Martin sounds really boring from the blurb but it was probably my favourite. He perfects the metafiction style/gimmick he really likes in it.

[Anonymous No.10626473]

>>10626447
Too bad I already have a copy licensed under the old license.
I'll sell it to anyone interested for 1 USD

[Anonymous No.10626487]

>>10626473
My relicense was retroactive. The EFF will be contacting you shortly.

[Anonymous No.10626498]

>>10623629
I saw these on the shelf at my local bookstore and they caught my eye, are they worth a read?

[Anonymous No.10626500]

>>10626487
Good luck, I'm behind 7 permissive licenses Mr Stallman.

[Anonymous No.10626503]

Finished Malazan
It wasn't great

[Anonymous No.10626508]

I'm poor and have no entertainment besides fantasy books

Where do I find some (good) free fantasy online?

[Anonymous No.10626511]

>>10626498
>forgotten realms anything
just a tip. if you like dungeons and dragons. stick to the eberron or neverwinter books.
completely skip anything forgotten realms.

[Anonymous No.10626514]

>>10626508
gen.lib.rus.ec

[Anonymous No.10626516]

>>10626508
Mobilism, libgen, #bookz

[Anonymous No.10626519]

>>10626508
Visit gutenberg.org for all your public domain needs my impoverished brethen.

[Anonymous No.10626532]

>>10626511
Why? Serious question. I don't think D&D books are ever great but what makes Forgotten Realms so bad?

I've never read Salvatore's books, but I did play Baldur's Gate.

[Anonymous No.10626585]

>>10626503
This is the correct opinion about Malazan. What sucks is Erikson definitely had the ability to write a truly great epic fantasy series, but the bloat and pretentiousness is too much for it to be considered a great series.

[Anonymous No.10626588]

I just finished this and now bitchy villainesses being redeemed by hero dick is my fetish, are there any other examples?

[Anonymous No.10626591]

>>10626532
you know what. just read a forgotten realms book and youll know why. just dont buy one so you dont regret it even more.

[Anonymous No.10626612]

>>10626588
Ehhhhh the last two Drenai books by Gemmell are sorta like that if you consider there's varying degrees of "redeemed".

[Anonymous No.10626621]

>>10626588
Black Company

[Anonymous No.10626629]

>>10626588
Also what's your opinion on The Sword of Rhiannon and what would you compare it favorably to? I keep meaning to read Brackett's stuff, but keep putting it off.

[Anonymous No.10626655]

>>10626585
I agree

[Anonymous No.10626705]

>>10626588
Jirel of Joiry, right? Black Amazon of Mars, Red Sonja maybe.

[Anonymous No.10626798]

After 2.5 long years I think it's time I take this old flavors idea out behind the shed. I can't use it. All I can do is just recycle the characters

>>10625399
anon. some suggestions

>go on amazon, find books you really liked and then look at the related books
>go somewhere like tor.com and just pick at short stories until you find something you like, then look up the author

[Anonymous No.10626804]

>>10626798
Who are you and what are you talkng about?

[Anonymous No.10626834]

>>10626804
Eh, neither is really important. I'm just some anon who mentioned an idea I was working on here about a year and a half ago and then every time I mentioned something related to the idea someone immediately recognized me and said "flavoranon is that you?" so I just kind of went along with it.

>>10624859
soy milk is overrated. Lactose-free tastes better than real milk as long as you avoid the shit with the yellow cap. For people with religious or moral restrictions against milk there's gotta be a better option

[Anonymous No.10626872]

>>10626834
Well, I like it anyway. It's just too expensive to be a regular thing sadly.

[Anonymous No.10626926]

>>10626872
soy milk probably works better in a savory context. Soy means glutamic acid, glutamic acid means umami, umami means family, family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten

I'm curious to see what would happen if I used it as a base for an asian-style broth

[Anonymous No.10626935]

>>10626926
kek

[Anonymous No.10626955]

Finished re-reading altered carbon, and only recently learnt (10 year later mind you) that's its a trilogy. Worth the read? I understand Broken Angels has a more military tone as opposed to the pulp noir tone of Altered, but I just really enjoy Morgan's writing.

[Anonymous No.10626963]

>>10625899
There were some striking paragraphs every once in a while in the name of the wind. I'm just a pleb though

[Anonymous No.10627024]

>>10626955
Aren't they making a Netflix series out of that?

[Anonymous No.10627041]

>>10627024
Yea, funny enough, I picked it off my shelf after reading Neuromancer, and a coworker saw it on my desk and asked if I had seen the trailer. Had not heard anything about it until then.

[Anonymous No.10627070]

can anyone who's read book of the new sun help me out?
im finishing the sword of the lictor right now and in chapter XXXI (31) severian says
>"how could i refuse to the increate what i had willingly given the autarch when i struck off Katharine's head?"
what the hell is he talking about? i know Holy Katharine is the ritual they do when he becomes a journeyman, but i dont know how this is related to the increate or the autarch or how this even fits into the context of him and the island people going to fight the people in the castle.

[Anonymous No.10627151]

>>10626508
This will get you 99.9%

[Anonymous No.10627195]

>>10626629

It's fun pulp, very John Carter but not quite that pg. The story goes to darker places and the characters aren't quite so clearly good and evil, the hero is more an Indiana Jones type asshole for example

[Anonymous No.10627205]

>>10625779

[Anonymous No.10627211]

>>10627205
Nice argument

[Anonymous No.10627215]

If Sanderson was an overtly political leftist would sffg like his work as much?
Really makes me think.

[Anonymous No.10627217]

>>10627070
When you give mercy, you give to God. Severian is conducting a mission of mercy for the island people by killing someone who needs killed. He doesn't think it would be right to refuse to do it when he's willing to kill people because the Autarch tells him to.

[Anonymous No.10627224]

>>10626024

Terrible taste confirmed, and opinion discarded

[Anonymous No.10627230]

>>10627215
>implying Rothfuss is disliked for his politics
Mieville is more radical, farther left, more political in his works, and less disliked than Rothfuss, as are Le Guin, Delaney, KSR, Adam Roberts, etc.

[Anonymous No.10627240]

>>10627217
ah, thank you. this is all way beyond me.

[Anonymous No.10627247]

>>10627211

literally as much of an argument as
>Anyone who doesn't understand the fundamental appeal of Rothfuss has no potential as an author.

[Anonymous No.10627260]

Need a good fantasy rec with a lesbian lead boys. Any?

[Anonymous No.10627270]

>>10627260
The wall of storms. The bad news is it's a sequel. The good news is it's worth a read

[Anonymous No.10627291]

>>10626955
I liked reading all three, but it's true that the 2nd book is more "military". That being said it's not like Kovacs ever becomes a good soldier, he's there to achieve his own ends. That being said it's not really a mystery like book 1 was.

>>10627215
To be honest Sanderson looks exactly like someone sffg would hate, he dresses like a reddit stereotype and his voice is high and soyboy-like

[Anonymous No.10627382]

does this sound like a bad twst

>plot revolves around 3 humanoid abominations leading armies of monsters to destroy each other with the extremely eccentric and borderline-insane protagonists caught in the middle
>the three abominations are actually a single abomination who's actually insane the heroes and is trying to kill its split personalities

[Anonymous No.10627438]

>>10627382
what? like is the battle in his head? im dont understand

[Anonymous No.10627475]

>>10626621
Ha. That's actually accurate.

[Anonymous No.10627477]

>>10627438
it's a nigh-omnipresent shapeshifter with a split personality. Each of those personalities is separately guiding unwitting armies and the protagonists to kill the other two of its other forms

[Anonymous No.10627495]

>>10626798
Just know you were one of the anons that was the foundation for aspiring authors.

[Anonymous No.10627500]

>>10626955
You tried his other books? Th13teen or market forces?

[Anonymous No.10627514]

>>10627291
>exactly like someone sffg would hate
>soyboy-like
>these two things are related
pol. What you fail to realize is that sffg is not an extension of your echo chamber. Stop trying to make it so.

[Anonymous No.10627793]

I just finished lud in the mist and it's easily one of my favourite books I've ever read, any other fantasy books like it?

[Anonymous No.10627803]

>>10627514
Please return to the local Marx thread, you soyshitter.

[Anonymous No.10627824]

>>10627514
>p-pol is an echo chamber!
>how dare you leave pol!
lol you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.10627846]

>>10627260
Hesitant recommendation: Dragonoak is about a young girl becoming the squire of a female knight. Only read the first one because it was a bit overly angsty for me. Also the author might have molested a teenager but the source is somebody on tumblr so take that as you will.

The Shadow Campaigns series by Django Wexler has a lesbian posing as a man as one of the main characters.

I've heard Tiger's Daughter by K. Arsenault Rivera is apparently pretty good but I haven't tried it yet.

>>10627270
Also the MC ends up being forced to marry a man at the end.

[Anonymous No.10627875]

>>10626024
>Here is a bad cover on a good book to show you you're wrong
>Nvm this book is bad anyway
>>i will change my tune because i got caught
Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.10627884]

>>10626498
It's very comfy read but it's YA.

[Anonymous No.10627899]

>>10627514
What you fail to realize is that /sffg/'s population includes people with opinions close to those of /pol/ on certain topics. You're the one having a hard time coping with that.
>N..no! /sffg/ is my sacred place, please leave me alone!

[Anonymous No.10627941]

>>10627514

[Anonymous No.10627946]

>>10625849
I think he's a great author, Way of Kings is in a league of it's own, and just as good as The Name of the Wind if not even better.

Sure, he's using tropes like the "disgruntled officer becomes slave, gets back and takes his revenge", but it works.

I don't really know how to structure my argument for his books being great, rather than the fact that I thoroughly enjoyed almost every second of them in a way I've only done with Rothfuss works.

Then again nothing can be perfect. The Name of the wind suffers from this aswell. The entire love-interest plot in those books are the most cringeworthy mess I've ever witnessed, and even so the books are great.

The fact that you have to bring in Skyrim is a bit pathetic, Skyrim was in it's core a great game that couldn't really live up to infinite hype as the greatest game ever made.

I feel as though the Stormlight Archive sort of suffers from the same problem.

[Anonymous No.10627950]

>>10627899
>brings shit over from other board and gets mad when told to fuck off
>literally moaning about how you can't use shariah law like in the old country

[Anonymous No.10628136]

>>10627950
Nice try but the post you responded to was my first post.

[Anonymous No.10628521]

>>10624715
lacks depth and originality, but makes up for it in writing and characters. One of the better written new books

[Anonymous No.10628523]

What is the consensus on AC books?

[Anonymous No.10628537]

>>10626094
Reynolds isn't really well loved here.

[Anonymous No.10628552]

>>10626955
yeah definitely worth the read

[Anonymous No.10628842]

>>10628523
I have not read any of them but I'll guess they're shit.

[Anonymous No.10628879]

>>10626498
The Dark Elf trilogy is worth it for sure. I kind of lost interest while reading the subsequent books even tho they did have some great scenes.

[Anonymous No.10628947]

>Writes a side character that speaks and writes and dresses in a somewhat archaic, formal and informal, language, with the intended purpose to show that its merely something said side character is trying to cultivate something he's not.

>People who read it keep telling me that's not how people act.

Are people just that dense or is it just me.

[Anonymous No.10628960]

>>10628947
depends, are you making it clear it's a deliberate effort on the character's part or not?

[Anonymous No.10628976]

>>10628960
It's pretty much a deliberate effort on the character's part

[Anonymous No.10629098]

>who do you like shilling?
Robin Hobb. She's got some pretty damn great stuff.
>who do you not like seeing being shilled?
Martin.

[Anonymous No.10629155]

Everyone wish me a Happy Birthday.

[Anonymous No.10629156]

>>10628136
Doesn't matter if it's your tenth. What the guy said applies to you.

[Anonymous No.10629177]

>>10624018
Are you one of his Beta Readers?
I need snippets. from his next book. I finished the 3 books that are out in one week (last week, was quick reading). If you ignore the sex smut shit the books are quite enjoyable. What I would like is some chapter previews or something. Since I finished these books they are on my mind. And that blog doesn't give readers suggestions to read while we wait.

[Anonymous No.10629186]

>>10627899
>tfw /sffg/ is my sacred place

[Anonymous No.10629206]

>>10625047
the dreamblood duology was OK, but the inheritance or whatever is called series was insufferable

[Anonymous No.10629208]

>>10624396
approved by the big titty committee

[Anonymous No.10629369]

>>10628947
>Writes a side character that speaks and writes and dresses in a somewhat archaic, formal and informal, language, with the intended purpose to show that its merely something said side character is trying to cultivate something he's not.
that's not how people act

[Anonymous No.10629510]

Literally every time i open one of these threads people are arguing over Sanderson.
Why are you guys constantly talking about him if you hate him so much? Are you just trying to be contrarian or are you upset that people enjoy something?

[Anonymous No.10629517]

>>10629510
Are you surprised that a popular author is discussed?

[Anonymous No.10629533]

>>10629517
the 3rd comment is literally this
>>10623724
It's not even discussion, I see this every time in these threads, the people who bring him up first are the ones who seem to hate him.
It makes no sense to me.

[Anonymous No.10629565]

>>10629533
It's an /sffg/-insider meme you wouldn't understand. I bet this isn't even your sacred space.

[Anonymous No.10629594]

>>10629369
What, you've never met Campus Republicans before?

[Anonymous No.10629738]

just started this, it's really fucking good so far. gripping.

[Anonymous No.10629739]

>>10627500
haven't read market forces but th13teen was kinda bad tbqh

i think the universe he established in the kovacs books was far more novel and compelling than the other stuff he's written since

[Anonymous No.10629743]

>>10626621
Is this book good? I avoided it because it looked bleak. Will I feel depressed reading it?

[Anonymous No.10629824]

>>10629743
It's very light in the grimderpness compared to modern grimderp so no it's not really bleak or depressing.

[Anonymous No.10629842]

>>10629739
The hilarious thing about Thirteen/Black Man is that I saw a review ages back where somebody didn't like the book and Morgan got all mad at them and was yelling about how they didn't understand his masterfully crafted strong and masculine black man who is the essence of blackness. (the review, IIRC, didn't mention race beyond the main character being black)

[Anonymous No.10629863]

>>10629842
lel
desu the entire premise of a alpha male super soldier with no inhibitions was kind of retarded in a book filled with other people trying to do violence to each other

[Anonymous No.10630003]

>>10629738
gri approved?

[Anonymous No.10630069]

>>10629177
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>RECENT POSTS BY E. WILLIAM BROWN
Did you know? If you become a patron to E. William Brown, you’ll immediately get access to as many as 35 patron-only posts.

[Anonymous No.10630108]

>>10627041
watching now. some ok parts but mostly shit.

[Anonymous No.10630121]

>>10629863
There was another time he showed up to yell at somebody in the comment section of a blog about how "THE SEX I WRITE IS THE SEX I HAVE!"

[Anonymous No.10630136]

>>10630121
im convinced Morgan is secretly from 4chan

[Anonymous No.10630223]

>>10630136
almost any person of note with some degeneracy is from 4chan.
We are the social hub of the internet.

[Anonymous No.10630403]

>>10629369
I ran into a steampunk cosplayer at Aldi once. Portly man around 40, nicely dressed in waistcoat and tophat+gears, his wife tagging along in normal clothes. Sometimes people act like that.

[Anonymous No.10630411]

>>10628976
Yes but are you making it clear, e.g. he breaks down and talks normal when he's stressed, someone else catches a glimpse of him hitting the laundromat in sweats at 1 AM, that sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.10630416]

>>10627950
>bashing shariah when you know nothing about it
I hope you know you're as bad as them. /pol/ means peace.

[Anonymous No.10630452]

>>10630411
>he breaks down and talks normally when he's stressed,
More or less, or if its something important.

>someone else catches a glimpse of him hitting the laundromat in sweats at 1 AM, that sort of thing.
Yes. He acts normal when he's by himself and/or his own home.

[Anonymous No.10630622]

I just finished Chasm City, wow, what a ride. It started feeling like a private detective in space thriller and then got so much weirder and weirder. So much world building and history, and the grubs and the robots (I bet the sleeping alien mechanism at the edge of the binary system in Revelation Space ties into that, can't wait to read the next one). Also loved the little "clerical error" nod at the end.

Pic related

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10630868]

>>10623629
>SSFG
Hope that's an easy edit.
>whom do I shill
Jack Vance.

[Anonymous No.10630874]

>>10630622
>giant spermatozoa travels through space the novel

[Anonymous No.10631058]

>>10627260
I'm only halfway through, but the lead in Traitor Baru Cormorant is constantly threatened of being accused of being a tribadist, because the society shuns scissorers.

>>10630622
Reynolds is an acquired taste of mine, he takes you for a fun ride through sci-fi concepts in most of his books. Do try some of his other novels, and shorter fiction.
What clerical error were you referring to?

[Anonymous No.10631143]

>finished Assassin's Quest
>no comfy Buck Keep
>protagonist eternally cucked
>action loaded into the last 20 pages of a 700 page novel
>conflict with antagonist ended unceremoniously
>two page epilogue explaining what happened
>half the book padded with travel
Holy shit what happened

[Anonymous No.10631276]

are there any good sci fi novels about mechs?

[Anonymous No.10631342]

>>10629743
It has a kind of hysterical edge to it, rather than being angst or broody

[Anonymous No.10631352]

>>10629594
>>10630403
NOt an argument. It's not how people act.

[Anonymous No.10631360]

>>10631276
Muv Luv Alternative

[Anonymous No.10631396]

>>10631276
I like how you asked for sc-fi novels about mechs as if non sci-fi novels about mechs exist. But the only mech series I've read is The Revelations Cycle which I enjoyed.

Warning though: the protag in the first novel is a loser Brony and I know that might trigger some of you, but it makes sense in the context of the story. The writer isn't a Brony himself using this book to preach Bronyism; he just wanted to make his protag as much of a dweeb as possible and decided on Brony.

[Anonymous No.10631467]

>>10631352
Stop being a bigot.

[Anonymous No.10631559]

>>10631143
>antagonist turned from brat to literally worst man in the world without any explanation
>suddenly dragons
>focus on plot points (Molly) that have literally no effect upon the story

[Anonymous No.10631623]

What are some patrician cyberpunk books?

[Anonymous No.10631642]

>>10631352
People put on airs all the time in college. I had a poetry class with a guy who showed up in all black wearing eyeliner and nail polish and spoke in a really dramatic way when sharing his work. But he spoke normally when giving criticism. Some people are just weird.

[Anonymous No.10631669]

>>10631623
http://www.unboundworlds.com/2016/11/want-read-cyberpunk-heres-start/

[Anonymous No.10631776]

>>10627946
If this is bait then it's incredible. You've truly outdone yourself.

[Anonymous No.10631795]

>>10631623
Snow Crash, when read ironically as intended, is truly, truly patrician.

[Anonymous No.10631801]

Any good fantasy with environmental stuff in it? Not entirely sure, but basically Princess Mononoke type things in decent (epic) fantasy format.

[Anonymous No.10631809]

What fantasy and sci-fi are you looking forward to or planning to read from 2018?

[Anonymous No.10631821]

>>10631809
The next Baru book
Tight pussy 2

[Anonymous No.10631946]

Guys. If I wanted to view books samples from a writer on patreon, how do I get around that without donating?

[Anonymous No.10631966]

>>10628947
Have the character, well, break character. Like, if they speak all the time in very polite, formal language, have them get really annoyed at something and just snap out and swear at it. Make it obvious that the act is just that, an act.

[Anonymous No.10632123]

Can anyone recommend me some interracial science fiction or fantasy novels?

[Anonymous No.10632128]

>>10632123
Red Rising.

[Anonymous No.10632184]

What's with all of these fantasy and science fiction novels with black protagonists nowadays? Where are all of the white protagonists?

[Anonymous No.10632199]

>>10632123
Imajica and Dhalgren

[Anonymous No.10632200]

>>10632184
bait harder bro

[Anonymous No.10632286]

>>10632200
hes not wrong.

[Anonymous No.10632340]

I want dragons, give me a book with dragons.

[Anonymous No.10632346]

>>10632340
A song of Ice and Fire

[Anonymous No.10632362]

>>10632340
Apparently, "Dragon porn" is a tag (shelf, whatever) on GoodReads.

In a fantasy world that resembles our middle ages, Drake has just turned eighteen and decides to leave home and go on an adventure. He soon gets more than he bargained for when he is kidnapped and wakes up naked and chained inside the cave of a dragon. But instead of a deadly dragon, a handsome young man named Eric greets him.

Drake tries to get the young man to set him free so they can both run before the dragon gets back, but Eric is more interested in having sex with Drake rather than helping him escape.

And so begins the adventures of a weredragon and a werewolf who meet many other interesting characters, some werebeasts, some not.

*** WARNING *** This book contains scenes of explicit gay sex.

[Anonymous No.10632373]

>>10632362
lol

[Anonymous No.10632404]

>>10632340
Dragon's Blood.

[Anonymous No.10632429]

>>10632123
The latest Bakker novel has some tender interracial scenes

[Anonymous No.10632469]

>>10632362
Sounds great, wish i was bi so i could enjoy gay erotica too.

[Anonymous No.10632476]

>>10629156
>What the guy said applies to you.

when did anyone endorse sharia law? why was >>10627950
not told to go back to /pol/ for insulting the prophet mohammed (pbuh)?

[Anonymous No.10632593]

>>10632128

that was why I dropped it hard desu

[Anonymous No.10632601]

>>10632593
You're supposed to self-insert as Cassius.

[Anonymous No.10632646]

>>10632362
And don't forget about this "classic."
http://crevette.livejournal.com/164152.html

[Anonymous No.10632890]

Just finished Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. Is it a popular interpretation that everything after Leo first meets Palmer while posing as a reporter, is part of Leo's Chew-Z fueled dream?

[Anonymous No.10632906]

>>10632890
>Is it a popular interpretation that everything after Leo first meets Palmer while posing as a reporter, is part of Leo's Chew-Z fueled dream?

Yeah. You could put the start of the endless dream at several points in the plot.

[Anonymous No.10632930]

>>10631946
The only patreon piracy site on the internet is literally called yiff.party run by some fags on 8gag and it's only pretty much for artists (mostly for furfags although it does work with some professional artists like mohrbacher). (This is of course excepting a few weird discord for people with weird porn fetishes and the obvious boards on 4chan who buy and share patreon content of that type)

Don't know what method they use but it apparently rips as long as
1. Pay Upfront is not enabled (if pay upfront is enabled someone on that site has to be subscribed to the creator and the session cookie is taken to allow the scraper to function). I think that you can automatically add non CUF creators (by the way, after a few big stinks raised by artists like Sinix a lot of artists and authors etc can choose to enable CUF to protect themselves and patreon knows that the scraper exists)
2. The creator has literally posted the link or the content to the actual patreon page. If it's being directly mailed to users the site won't be able to rip.

Apparently there was a patreon db hack a during the 2015 data breach, not sure if anyone managed to dump passwords and shit and I never managed to get my hands on it.

[Anonymous No.10632991]

>>10630874
Yeah the cover isn't that great.

>>10631058
Yeah fun ride is the word. And I'm referring to the female assassin character from Revelation Space, she's placed in cryogenic sleep on Sky's Edge after an earthquake while waiting for hospitals to have some beds available, and her pod is placed in an interstellar ship instead because of a clerical error, and she wakes up forty years later on Yellowstone, where she becomes an assassin in Chasm City. At the end of Chasm City (the book, not the city) Tanner is recruiting assassins, and he's interviewing this unnamed chick and mentions she's here because of a clerical error. Funny little nod you wouldn't get if you hadn't read the previous book.

Speaking of not having read the previous book : I ordered that one in German by mistake on Amazon, so I gifted it to my cousin who speaks it fluently because I didn't want it to go to waste. She's never read science fiction before, she's about forty, mother of two, and a school teacher.

I wonder what she'll think of it, having never read Revelation Space before, or any other sci fi for that matter, do you guys think Reynolds is a good introduction to the genre?

[Anonymous No.10633146]

>>10632184
>tfw still no good Afro-Futurist SF novel

[Anonymous No.10633196]

Esme is daughterfu

Also is their any art that depicts the dragons in the Iron Dragon's Daughter and the Dragons of Babe?

[Anonymous No.10633277]

>>10632362
>Drake
Are you fucking kidding me
I also find it funny how pornography always explicitly states that the characters are of age regardless of the setting

[Anonymous No.10633345]

>>10631396
>Warning though: the protag in the first novel is a loser Brony and I know that might trigger some of you, but it makes sense in the context of the story. The writer isn't a Brony himself using this book to preach Bronyism; he just wanted to make his protag as much of a dweeb as possible and decided on Brony.
I was wondering if you meant Brony as some type of metaphor for just being a loser, but no, I checked the book and the protagonist is a literal Brony. I may actually read this. Not the anon you were suggesting it to, though.

[Anonymous No.10633365]

any fantasy with romance that is not degenerate, has a strong main male character that is made strong through effort and isn't a tragedy?

[Anonymous No.10633381]

>>10632123
gross

[Anonymous No.10633416]

>>10631276
Mechs series by Bv Larson

[Anonymous No.10633427]

>>10632890
>>10632890
>Palmer Eldritch will never turn into a girl for you so hard that it fucks up your entire sense of reality to the point that you have to explicitly inform your employees about the experience as it is an indication of how much of a dire business and life threat you are in
Many keks were had. I personally think that the entire thing is canon and Dick's response to a fan letter confirming Bulero wins against Eldritch at the end as indicated by the intro. It's on the pkd fan site somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10633477]

>>10632930
So if I wanted to view chapter samples (words) from a writer on patreon would I be able?
One of his characters /wife is a catgirl if that helps.

[Anonymous No.10633490]

>>10633277
Yeah because we all know people wait and only have sex after the reached 18. America and it's people are stupid as fuck. You have to explicitly state someone is 18. If they are 17, lord help you, you filthy pedophile!!

[Anonymous No.10633506]

>>10633427
So... 3 stig palm has traps in it?

[Anonymous No.10633510]

>>10633365
Any romance is degenerate because the guy doesn't marry her before doing lewd things.

[Anonymous No.10633518]

>>10633277
Authors just covering their asses. Happens with artists all the time, and for good reason. IIRC, Morganagod had a pic of Raven taken off DA because he didn't do this, and, get this, he used the wrong shade or gray for the skin color.

[Anonymous No.10633522]

>>10633490
>it's people are stupid as fuck
At least some of us can use apostrophes correctly.

[Anonymous No.10633524]

>>10633365
Good romance in fantasy seems rare. These days it's mostly just melodramatic soap opera tier nonsense with a love triangle occasionally thrown in the mix.

[Anonymous No.10633542]

Alright anon I read The Shadow Over Innsmouth

Wasn't as spooky as i remember it, but I certainly enjoyed it. I think the story went a bit off the rails when he met that old drunk who starting spouting carefully rehearsed exposition, the buildup and climax were good nonetheless. I think the entire ending section where it turns out he's related to the Marshes and is actually a fishman himself was a little unneeded, especially given how in the rest of the story he's clearly against the fishmen. Anyway, it's made me want to read more Lovecraft so thanks.

[Anonymous No.10633561]

>>10633542
>I think the entire ending section where it turns out he's related to the Marshes and is actually a fishman himself was a little unneeded, especially given how in the rest of the story he's clearly against the fishmen.
I have to wonder why Lovecraft thought miscegenation was a legit horror twist.

[Anonymous No.10633564]

>>10633506
No just the titular character who turns into a loli. Needs an animu.

[Anonymous No.10633595]

Does wolf moon have any plot resolution?

[Anonymous No.10633617]

>>10633522
>Ad hominem
Expected nothing less from a burger eating Americlap.
Apostrophes shows possession anon.

[Anonymous No.10633623]

>>10633542
Is that the book dagon is based on?

[Anonymous No.10633624]

>>10633561
>miscegenation was a legit horror twist.
he's probably never met a mixed race person, some beautiful bastards can woo any hardline race-purification nutjob

[Anonymous No.10633635]

>>10633510
Romance is also good after marriage.
Any of that? Arranged marriage with a slow romance?

[Anonymous No.10633645]

>>10633617
>Apostrophes shows possession anon.
They're also used for contractions you idiot.

>"it's" = "it is"

>"its" = possessive of "it"

It's stupid to say Americans are stupid when you misuse an apostrophe and an American has to explain its proper uses to you.

[Anonymous No.10633664]

>>10633623
Yeah, but I think Dagon is a sort of pseudo-sequel

[Anonymous No.10633731]

>>10633624
It's not about being pure, it's about not breeding down. Lovecraft was redpilled on race.
Mixed race people are abominations.
You only get woo'd by them if you are a degenerate.

[Anonymous No.10633756]

what are some /sffg/ books for this feel

[Anonymous No.10633763]

>>10633756
this minor fluke actually reflects the state Im in right now
but this is the picture in question

[Anonymous No.10633770]

>>10633763
So you feel like a fag?

[Anonymous No.10633791]

>>10633770
If I felt like a fag I would have posted A Night at the Opera

[Anonymous No.10633800]

>>10633763
Are you dying of AIDS?

[Anonymous No.10633824]

>>10633645
>Klapistani
>explaining the Queen's English
kys. Third world countries have better education than you fucks. I'm sure you're the same anon that said their isn't plural. Just an hero before further embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.10633828]

>>10633731

[Anonymous No.10633840]

>>10633824
Yes goyim, worship a woman.
You know that the brits are using less accurate english than Americans, right?

[Anonymous No.10633869]

>>10633623
No Dagon was it's own short story, but Innsmouth contains references to Dagon

>>10633840
>You know that the brits are using less accurate english than Americans, right?
citation needed

[Anonymous No.10633897]

>>10626498
Comfy fantasy at it's finest.

[Anonymous No.10634241]

>>10633624
>>10633828

Miscegenation is magical, make sure you breed with another race! It's good for your genes!

[Anonymous No.10634294]

>>10633824
Wow, you're still going with this? I didn't know people could get this salty from being corrected on grammar.

[Anonymous No.10634295]

>>10633869
I was talking about dagon the movie with the fishgirl getting dicked.

[Anonymous No.10634302]

>>10634294
Grammar Nazis that don't even know English should be shot.

[Anonymous No.10634305]

>>10633345
It was my first mech novel and I enjoyed it a lot. It gets pretty anime at the end (giant mechs fighting giant alien monsters), but it's fun.

[Anonymous No.10634324]

>>10633365
Tons of Gemmell novels. Hell even his first novel Legend had this. He was a firm believer in non-degenerate love. Even as a non-preachy Christian one of his books features a gay male couple whose relationship is so subtle you'd think they were just really close friends. Absolute zero degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.10634331]

List the best "from another world" sff you guys read.
Princess of Mars, etc are off the table. List books that aren't well known.
Hard Mode: book must be published after the 90s

[Anonymous No.10634369]

>>10634324
Degeneracy (according to pol, which is the person requesting) is anything outside of a marriage between a man and a woman.
You fuck a girl before marriage? Degenerate!
You want to fuck your girl in the ass? Degenerate!
Your "girl" has a penis? Degenerate!
Your spouse doesn't resemble you in skin pigmentation and tone, hair texture? Degenerate!

They don't want books, they just want to start shit.

[Anonymous No.10634423]

>>10634331
>Hard Mode: book must be published after the 90s
Ah so you don't want to read anything good I see.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10634428]

>>10631966
Or have a third person explain the act.
>>10633365
The Lyonesse trilogy by Jack Vance, al though the romance is cut short by tragedy.
>>10634302
At the risk of summary execution, shouldn't this be:
>Grammar Nazis who

[Anonymous No.10634453]

>>10634369
None of this was controversial even fifty years ago. Stop trying to control people with your presentist bias.

[Anonymous No.10634464]

>>10634302
I corrected you for saying "it's" instead of "its," and you somehow think I'm in the wrong?

[Anonymous No.10634484]

>>10634295
yeah me too, but sorry no fishgirl dicking happens in the original novella

[Anonymous No.10634492]

>>10632123
Farnham's Freehold

[Anonymous No.10634528]

>>10634423
>lel kek only good book is old books
>books shouldn't have current technology in them hu-yuk lulz

[Anonymous No.10634541]

>>10634453
>presentist bias.
I'm all for degeneracy. It those p guys that doesn't want me to have fun.

[Anonymous No.10634557]

>>10634528
>"from another world" sff
>current technology
Never go full retard, anon.

[Anonymous No.10634571]

>>10634492
Interracial isn't degeneracy. Freehold is about degeneracy.
>castration
>incest
>mommas boy
>daughter diddling

[Anonymous No.10634576]

>>10634557
Every "from another world" sff always has someone introducing guns and the American way.
FUCK YEA!

[Anonymous No.10634593]

>>10633561
Because 56%

[Anonymous No.10634606]

>>10634571
>The Black Jewels
Ugh, tried to read the first book. Stopped after I realized that the author couldn't think of any single event worse than rape, and that it had to happen to basically every character in the book. It just desensitizes me to it until I just don't feel sorry for them anymore.

[Anonymous No.10634715]

Someone start a new thread and then go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.10634813]

>>10634606
You're supposed to fap. Not feel.

[Anonymous No.10634962]

Post GRI chart.

[Anonymous No.10635192]

>>10634962 See >>10634571

[Anonymous No.10635235]

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