Can there be any dissent that Norm Macdonald is officially /ourguy/

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Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:15:47 2018 No.10607476 [Reply] [Original]

Can there be any dissent that Norm Macdonald is officially /ourguy/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:16:55 2018 No.10607479 >>10607476 This is a Freudian Jewish Orthodox board with Communist Characteristics though.

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:21:10 2018 No.10607500

>>10607476
Norm is very tricky with words. He's a rascal. Notice how that's not actually a compliment. Pynchon is undeniably knowing. Anyone could see that he knows more than other writers, in an information sense. But Norm has been adament that in art he prefers Truth to mere facts. Judging from his tastes and how he talks about literature, I'm certain he doesn't enjoy Pynchon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:21:53 2018 No.10607502 File: 101 KB, 604x1024, DUub9LAX0AAH1vK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based Norm

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:23:57 2018 No.10607512 >>10607476 There's no disagreement about that. There's a thread about how literary he is every week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:25:26 2018 No.10607523 >>10607500 >>10607502 >>10607512 Like three months ago everyone here hated Culture of Critique goy. Are you all shills?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:28:10 2018 No.10607539 >>10607523 Huh? I'm >>10607500 and I haven't read that book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:35:56 2018 No.10607572 >>10607523 This is about Norm Macdonald, not Kevin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 14:38:35 2018 No.10607578 File: 291 KB, 300x300, u mad.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10607572

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 15:58:23 2018 No.10607947 Norm called Dostoevsky shit while praising Tolstoy and Gogol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:01:55 2018 No.10607962 >>10607947 /ourguy/ then

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:05:37 2018 No.10607976 >>10607476 He also hates BEE and Atwood and waifus Munro literally /ourguy/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:13:33 2018 No.10608013 >>10607476 Shame that alt-righters seem to claim him because he's not a fan of PC-ness

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:26:45 2018 No.10608056

>>10607476
>I've just read an incredible article where "The Handmaid's Tale", a sub-par piece of science-fi trash, is defended by its author. The author, who rightly should be apologizing for her execrable prose, not only defends it but calls it "timely". The book has been made in to some sort of cable mini-series. I'm Canadian, so had to suffer through this book as a young person.
>It's one of those cheap, dystopian tracts. The difference with this one is it has a deeply paranoid feminist look into the future. The story is as impossible as most of these " frightening looks into the future". But to call it timely, when the possibility of this fiction ever becoming fact even more of a joke, is just a cynical cash-grab.

>One might not like the premise, the meandering non-plot, the ugly themes, the subliterate dialogue and the dull fillibustering.
>I would say "unpublishable" would describe her style.
>I don’t hate Margaret Atwood. I hate bad writing. It isn’t her fault and I’d never have anything but pity for the talentless. But the Canadian school system makes you read her.

>It is nauseating to consider that through shameless self-promotion someone like Margaret Atwood could dare consider herself Munro’s peer. Unlike Munro, Margaret Atwood is incapable of writing a novel, yet churns out chum at an alarming rate. Munro is the greatest writer Canada has ever produced but feels herself incapable of writing a novel. On the flip side sits Margaret Atwood.
>What do I care if it's well-regarded. I have eyes to read. Everyone but me is welcome to love it. But I am right.

Is Norm right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:27:00 2018 No.10608058 >>10608013 >having such a worldview that frogposters can claim something and have it influence you evaluate your existence, anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:40:30 2018 No.10608121 >>10608013 >being this deranged, obsessive and pathological lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:41:47 2018 No.10608125 >>10607947 people who prefer tolstoy to dostoevsky are always superficial and pretentious in some way

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 16:48:34 2018 No.10608159 >>10608013 i hope the alt-right claims food and water so you die

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 17:08:44 2018 No.10608266 >>10608056 I think so, I've felt similar things about her novels.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 18:23:50 2018 No.10608681 >>10607976 Which Munro would be the best one to start with, or to get acquainted with? For what it's worth Im Canadain too, but Hand Maidens Tale was optional among others while I was in HS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 18:26:15 2018 No.10608699 >>10608681 Alice Munroe. Never came across the Handmaid's Tale until after highschool though myself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 18:26:25 2018 No.10608700 >>10608056 100 percent. I've never heard of this guy before but I'm predisposed to like him just from this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 18:31:04 2018 No.10608738 >>10608699 I meant which one of Alice Monro's books would be a good place to start. >>10608700 Comedian fired from SNL, frequent guest on late night TV. He gets called a comedian's comedian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTPxJH7UNWw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 19:41:36 2018 No.10609047 >>10608159 What no I love Norm I would just rather those lowlifes not believe that he's preaching to them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 20:32:11 2018 No.10609266 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDCasn_qM1s seeing as how he rejects normal sexuality I would agree

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 20:44:10 2018 No.10609314 >>10608125 >I dont like people who have different opinions than me i prefer dost, but bruh, cool it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 20:58:18 2018 No.10609393 >>10608056 i liked oryx and crake though. then again i am actually retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 21:10:19 2018 No.10609451 >>10608125 expand plz >>10608700 this >>10608159 this also

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 21:29:17 2018 No.10609572 File: 114 KB, 347x344, 1513958853680.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10609047 >believing media dichotomy to sell fear-calibrated intellectual product never heard of a think tank, eh?

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 21:35:01 2018 No.10609604

His aloof and ascetic schtick is definitely not literary. He's acting like a sixteen year old who just became an atheist and it's because he's been hanging around a bunch of delusional narcissists for too many years rather than coming to any awakening. Sick of these didactic celebrities no matter what their message is because it always comes down to representing this crafted image of themselves. If he rejects the unexamined life so much he should just disappear rather than having to prove to everyone how much more enlightened he's become.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 23:45:40 2018 No.10610272 >>10607500 He called Pynchon the greatest living writer and met him personally.

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 23:54:27 2018 No.10610333

>>10607500
Norm has this weird effect on people where they project all their own beliefs onto him, think anything he says that conforms to their beliefs is said in sincerity, and anything he says that doesn't conform to their beliefs is some subtle, multiple-layers-of-irony, genius joke.

Anonymous Mon Jan 29 23:57:17 2018 No.10610353

>>10609314
>>10609451
>expand plz
Tolstoy's writing is very surface-of-things and overly "literary". It's pretty to look at, and genius story telling, but it simply has no depth compared to Dostoevsky. Preferring Tolstoy over Dostoevsky says a lot about a person's character.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 29 23:58:59 2018 No.10610361 >>10610333 yeah, i've noticed that as well >>10609604 >He's acting like a sixteen year old I'm starting to think /lit/ has some kind of prejudice against sixteen year olds, because it seems to be a common criticism leveled at people they don't like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 00:14:58 2018 No.10610443 >>10609604 You're a real jerk!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 00:32:51 2018 No.10610515 >>10610361 >I'm starting to think /lit/ has some kind of prejudice against sixteen year olds, because it seems to be a common criticism leveled at people they don't like. Its classic projection

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:16:57 2018 No.10610724

>>10607476
Everyone on /lit/ always goes on about how clever his comedy is, but I honestly have no clue what's so funny. I've watched tons of videos of his "best bits" from YouTube and have found nothing. Maybe I need to watch a whole episode? Can someone link me a clip of him being funny?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:18:01 2018 No.10610728 >>10610724 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv0iXXAgnhM

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:18:49 2018 No.10610730

>>10610724
>but I honestly have no clue what's so funny

His mastery of timing is big part of it.
At the very least, you should be able to appreciate his comedic timing.

His delivery is also astoundingly good, but I'll concede that this is partly a matter of taste.

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:26:55 2018 No.10610757

>>10610724
Hypothetical Introduction to Norm graph. This is a first draft guys. Start with the roast of Bob Saget. Then the YouTube awards. From there go to either his Conan interviews or his podcasts, I’d suggest the Stephen Merchant one if you understand Norm’s confrontational ways, and his Super Dave interview if you don’t, from there you can watch everything else he has.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:33:52 2018 No.10610784 >>10610272 No he didn't retard. That was McCarthy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:35:06 2018 No.10610791 >>10610757 you forgot the correspondence dinner

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:35:58 2018 No.10610794

>>10610333
You're the one projecting here. My point is that he's very careful with his words. If the person had asked if he *liked* Pynchon, he either would have ignored it or maybe said no. But they asked instead what he thought of the man. And he gave a measured response that is easily misinterpreted. He does this all the time. He likes to speak his mind but is sort of Hermetic about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:36:07 2018 No.10610796 >>10610791 correspondant's

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:37:26 2018 No.10610802 >>10607476 Barfyman, no you cannot rape Norm's mother with a knife

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:37:39 2018 No.10610804 >>10610794 You're embarrassing yourself, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:38:48 2018 No.10610808 >>10610804 Not at all. People on this board are children.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:41:08 2018 No.10610818 >>10610724 He's probably the greatest "delivery" comedian. Letterman literally calls him the greatest. Watch more of his stuff, his style will grow on you. But biggest takeaway is that he is a master of delivery

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:41:44 2018 No.10610820 >>10610808 >Having read Norm MacDonald's book and watched many hours of his content on YouTube, I, an adult, am intimately familiar with the celebrity comedian's near-mystical personality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:41:46 2018 No.10610821 >>10610804 Anon is making good posts, you're the fool who needs to be quiet

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:49:46 2018 No.10610850

>>10610821
Thanks. And as for his last post >>10610820 I went through a period of about two years where watching and listening to obscure Norm clips was one of my main hobbies, wherein tracking down his thoughts on literature was a sub-hobby. His tastes are generally that of the person who goes to literature for distilled life and wisdom. The kind of writers who lived life and observed it more carefully than most other humans and put it down on paper, creating something of a second society. Pynchon isn't that kind of writer. His world is cartoonish, flimsy, and his ideas are more transitory than hardwon or timetested. These aren't value judgments. I actually like Pynchon a fair amount. I don't share Norm's tastes generally. But it's a different thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:49:58 2018 No.10610851 >>10610821 >Judging from his tastes and how he talks about literature, I'm certain he doesn't enjoy Pynchon. Yeah, great post. Claiming that you know with certainty what authors a celebrity enjoys is neither arrogant nor stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:51:00 2018 No.10610862 >>10610850 Since people on this sub are children, how old are you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:52:48 2018 No.10610872 >>10610851 All this post amounts to is you getting mad that the other poster has done his homework and you are more comfortable talking out your ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:53:26 2018 No.10610874 >>10610851 Learning about a persons attitudes and tastes isn't that hard dude. If you think he's wrong give an actual argument instead of just getting pissy a person dares to have an opinion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:53:27 2018 No.10610875 >>10607947 Gogol is most definitely superior. Tolstoy is debatable

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:53:40 2018 No.10610877 >>10610791 >>10610796 I remembered it but I wasn’t sure where to put it

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 01:59:08 2018 No.10610894

>>10610872
>>10610874
I don't care about Norm's opinion of Pynchon, it's not worth discussing. My argument from the start has been that Norm's fans read into his words deeper meaningd that aren't actually there. They then use this to proclaim him a genius and feel superior to others. >>10610850 is a perfect example of that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:00:54 2018 No.10610901 >>10609266 How do I get to this point? Also how do I wrap my head around the fact that I will inevitably die.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:05:40 2018 No.10610923 >>10610894 And that 'argument' is groundless. It's nothing but a vague intuition that's now been blown out of the water. Now go find a new thread for you to go restating banal and flimsy points in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:06:05 2018 No.10610926 >>10610894 >read into his words deeper meaningd that aren't actually there How do you know?

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:09:58 2018 No.10610938

>>10610926
>How do you know?
Read with me.

"I find Pynchon to be the most knowing writer of our time."

>>10607500
>Notice how that's not actually a compliment. Pynchon is undeniably knowing. Anyone could see that he knows more than other writers, in an information sense.
Yes, that is an assessment of what Norm wrote.

>Judging from his tastes and how he talks about literature, I'm certain he doesn't enjoy Pynchon.
That is arrogant conjecture presented as fact.

>>10610923
No, I'm right. You're wrong and trying to save face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:10:55 2018 No.10610942 >>10610938 Dude you need to rethink your priorities

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:11:55 2018 No.10610947

>>10610938
I've seen that way too many times with Norm. It's all over the comments of any video where he says something controversial. There's always a few fans reading way too much into what he says, and they all have their own pet theories explaining how they KNOW that X is Norm's real opinion on Y etc etc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:12:38 2018 No.10610953 >>10610942 Why? Because I got in an argument on an imageboard while I watched a tedious television show? I'm not the guy who spent two years watching YouTube clips trying to deduce another man's taste in authors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:14:03 2018 No.10610960 >>10610947 If he enjoyed Pynchon, he would have made that point explicitly like he's done with McCarthy, Munro, and Carver. He's not shy about that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:16:28 2018 No.10610968 >>10610953 You have a very weak arguing style. You must be an INTP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:19:00 2018 No.10610983 >>10610968 You sound like a Capricorn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:19:43 2018 No.10610986 >>10610968 you must be an Aries and a number 8 in numerology. Probably a 4 of wands in the Tarot as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:20:26 2018 No.10610991 >>10610968 >more salty fags who hate INTPs holy shit, this thread isn't even about mbti, can you guys give it a rest

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:21:06 2018 No.10610994 >>10610983 >>10610986 Samefag. Comeplete with making the second message in lowercase so as to try and distinguish the two. What a coward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:22:28 2018 No.10611001 >>10607476 Is he using "knowing" in Rorty's sense? If so, mfw

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:23:52 2018 No.10611010 >>10611001 idgaf about norm, but how does rorty use "knowing"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:23:55 2018 No.10611011 >>10610994 >I've lost the argument but I'm going to keep shitposting so I can get the last word in and feel good about myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:24:14 2018 No.10611012 >>10611001 I'm sure he wanted that interpretation to be considered.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:25:17 2018 No.10611014 >>10611011 More projecting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:26:24 2018 No.10611021 >>10611014 Nope, my declaration of victory went unchallenged earlier, so that statement isn't applicable to my posts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:27:30 2018 No.10611023 >>10611021 19 year old INTPs are such pitiful people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:28:39 2018 No.10611025 >>10610353 Pleb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:29:15 2018 No.10611027 >>10611023 More projecting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:30:15 2018 No.10611035 >>10611027 Projecting my unfortunate wealth of experience in dealing with your kind, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:32:18 2018 No.10611044 >>10611035 As a 22 year old with an Associates Degree in Norm MacDonald's Literature Preferences, would you suggest I go into the field? Is there much opportunity there?

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:33:06 2018 No.10611048

>>10611010
>Although I prefer “knowingness” to Bloom’s word “resentment,” my view of these
substitutions is pretty much the same as his. Bloom thinks that many rising young
teachers of literature can ridicule anything but can hope for nothing, can explain
everything but can idolize nothing. Bloom sees them as converting the study of literature
into what he calls “one more dismal social science”—and thereby turning
departments of literature into isolated academic backwaters. American sociology
departments, which started out as movements for social reform, ended up training
students to clothe statistics in jargon. If literature departments turn into departments
of cultural studies, Bloom fears, they will start off hoping to do some badly needed
political work, but will end up training their students to clothe resentment in jargon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:33:18 2018 No.10611050 >>10610724 He not good. People like to like him to feel intelligent. best comedian is Emo Philips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ab6LWXeND

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:34:57 2018 No.10611058 >>10611048 so, rorty uses the word "know" to mean "resent? thats werid why does he do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:35:53 2018 No.10611060 >>10611050 Terribly unfunny

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:43:13 2018 No.10611078

>>10611058
Not really, the excerpt I quoted is probably not adequate. He's basically arguing (the essay is "The Inspirational Value of Great Works of Literature") that approaching a text or whatever with the attitude that it can be explained totally, that one can "know more" or "know better" than the text is bad for the humanities

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:47:58 2018 No.10611088 >>10607500 >>10610794 This is the same way /pol/tards talked about Drumpf before his retardation became undeniable even for them.

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 02:54:06 2018 No.10611097

>>10611078
>approaching a text or whatever with the attitude that it can be explained totally, that one can "know more" or "know better" than the text is bad for the humanities
maybe you aren't interested in opening up a discussion on this, but my two cents is that that's kind of dumb. "knowing" isn't an attitude, you either do in fact know something or you don't. If a person claims to know better he should be able to demonstrate it more or less adequately, and if he can in fact do so then more power to him.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 04:10:31 2018 No.10611255 >>10611097 Well, what Rorty has in mind in literature departments are Foucauldian new historicists, Marxists, etc. "Knowingness" here means something like believing one can produce a total explanation of a text (which you can't really do)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 04:52:24 2018 No.10611332 >>10611255 Its a trite observation though. Did anyone ever claim to be presenting a complete interpretation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 04:55:02 2018 No.10611339 >>10611332 I'd recommend you just read the essay. I'm too drunk to explain it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 05:06:04 2018 No.10611362 >>10610272 >>10610784 no one knows which of the two it was you faggots

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 05:12:18 2018 No.10611381 >>10610938 I'm none of the anons you talked to, but I have to comment; while reading you post I felt you were an extremely disgusting person

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 06:09:43 2018 No.10611516 >>10608125 >t. Hasn’t read Anna Karenina He did everything Dosto could and more

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 08:05:09 2018 No.10611727 File: 22 KB, 1017x190, Norm Dosto.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] wew

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 09:34:21 2018 No.10611944 REMINDER THAT HE HATES DOSTOYEVSKY BECAUSE HE REMINDS HIM OF HIS GAMBLING PROBLEM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 09:38:51 2018 No.10611955 File: 511 KB, 712x6523, norm big pete.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] norm /lit/kino

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 09:53:11 2018 No.10611987 >>10607523 Everyone still does hate CoCposter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 10:03:10 2018 No.10612010 >>10608125 Dosto is a cheap sensationalist

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 10:05:12 2018 No.10612012 >>10610724 He does anti-humour

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 10:18:32 2018 No.10612050 File: 768 KB, 700x3430, norm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10612012 >he does anti-humour pls no

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 10:19:01 2018 No.10612052

>>10608056

Speaking solely about it's literary merit.... I honestly cant say because I havent read it, only about it's themes and plot points because it never actually interested or drew me into it. So Norm might be completely right on that. Has anyone here read it?

That being said, he's somewhat wrong and kind of ignorant about some events and political movements not just in America but in other places. It is timely (only slightly) because there are governments and religions that are trying to limit women's rights and decisions. Now, I know where I am, you'll look at this post and immediately kneejerk some contrived post about SJWs and whitekinghting cucks, but whatever you disagree on, it's still true. It's a bit ridiculous to call The Handmaid's Tale completely timely, this shit has been going on for thousands of years, wether it's a system to oppress whatever group or ethnicity, or some halfassed ideology turned on it's side, they exist, and Atwood was speculating on an extreme abuse of these in some possible future.

You can look at 1984 and it's critics when it first published. Some called it unbelievable and incredulously outrageous, but over time it was prescient.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 10:46:59 2018 No.10612159 >>10609047 norm is a reactionary though

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:16:53 2018 No.10612267 >>10607476 He called Cormac McCarthy and Alice Munro the greatest living writers. Haven't read McCarthy, but can vouch for Munro. Dance of the Happy Shades is great, lively writing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:19:13 2018 No.10612280 >>10608681 I think I've only read three books in my whole life in two sittings or fewer: One of them was Dance of the Happy Shades (the others, I believe, were Franny and Zooey and Into Thin Air)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:22:01 2018 No.10612293 File: 724 KB, 1500x2400, 1*77fUKJCpufbEqCVxUCEP2A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10612267 mccarthy is great you should look into him desu senpai...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:33:47 2018 No.10612342 >>10612293 A coworker recommended him to me like eight years ago...I feel like I'm saving his work because I know I'll only get to read it the first time once. (I know that sounds gay, but I want to wait until I'm in a better place in my life).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:36:33 2018 No.10612351 >>10612293 ive never seen that cover

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:38:16 2018 No.10612361 >>10611955 Wow, I liked that.

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:45:17 2018 No.10612385
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>>10610353
>Preferring Tolstoy over Dostoevsky says a lot about a person's character.
I wonder what exactly is there to be said about those who prefer Dostoevsky to Tolstoy then, all those threads with frogposters endlessly repeating UNDAGROUND MUHN IZ JUZ LIEK MEE WAD A JAYNIUS, and all those easily impressed troglodytes going on about how UH RID DOSTO AND I FEEL LIEK GOIN TO MASS NOW I MEEN WUT IF SCIENZ CAN NO NUFFIN, and of course all the retards endlessly memeing about muh deep Russian soul, I wonder, what does THAT says about Dostoevsky's audience, all those retards impressed with works whose narrative methods are lifted from literal pulp, but hey, there's some philosophical platitudes crammed between that and the sloppy stylistics of his, such a depth!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:56:45 2018 No.10612438 >>10607523 this is some next level shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 11:59:06 2018 No.10612447 >>10607947 Fake

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:01:41 2018 No.10612459

>>10612385

My experience with Notes from Underground:

>read the book when I was about 16
>remember keeping a pencil with me because every few pages there was a sentence that read like it had come from my own thoughts and journals
>was blown away by how much I related to the main character, bitter and sickly as he was
>gained perspective on my position as an individual in the world, as demonstrated by the fact that a man in 19th century St. Petersburg could experience many of the same thoughts and feelings that I was feeling as I approached adulthood.
>felt less alone
>fell in love with classic literature because of this effect
>just reached for my copy of Notes from Underground, which I still have
>leafed through it all and found that all of my pencil marks had faded away
>now I'm going to have to reread it. Hopefully I enjoy it just as much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:03:18 2018 No.10612467 >>10612459 good post

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:11:05 2018 No.10612508 >>10612447 >>10611727

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:35:38 2018 No.10612589 >>10610994 >doesn’t know to look at the times on each post before declaring samefag I shouldn’t even have to say it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:41:46 2018 No.10612616 >>10607502 based on a true story is /lit/ AF

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:43:58 2018 No.10612621 >>10609393 retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:47:48 2018 No.10612636 >>10608125 people who prefer dostoevsky to tolstoy are always edgelords in some way

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:48:09 2018 No.10612638 >>10608125 people who prefer dostoevsky to tolstoy always have skinny wrists and want to wear dresses which is why if i ever meet you im gonna shove you in a locker

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 12:51:01 2018 No.10612645 >>10610361 have you ever met a good 16 year old? i'm starting to suspect you yourself are 16

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 15:07:17 2018 No.10613200 >>10610333 thats so true i know exactly what you mean its so easy to think norm is voicing your side of an argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 15:16:05 2018 No.10613239 >>10611362 He said it was either Pynchon or McCarthy and that whoever it was was the only living author who could be considered among the greats. In the Reddit AMA he called McCarthy and Munro the greatest living authors. It was McCarthy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 15:22:58 2018 No.10613264 File: 51 KB, 454x512, Judge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10613239 You're right, I hadn't yet read the reddit post at the time of posting.

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 15:23:57 2018 No.10613274

>>10608056
>Munro is the greatest writer Canada has ever produced
Whether this is true or not, which is debatable, it’s still a depressing thought nonetheless. Munro isn’t even second-rate.

ps : and Munro definitely isn’t superior to Marie-Claire Blais, or Duchamp, or Laferrière, but «muh double solitude» amirite

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 15:39:44 2018 No.10613322 >>10613239 i haven't read any mccarthy. how much humor is in his books, and what type? he strikes me as a rather serious fella

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 16:02:00 2018 No.10613392 >>10613274 Duchamp? I have found Rejean Ducharme. I don't know if you were talkin about him. Can you recommend some works by the authors you said? Especially for Mari Claire Blais.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 16:30:14 2018 No.10613550 File: 46 KB, 576x677, 1420921429297.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He called DFW's writing "mannered" in an interview.

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 16:35:27 2018 No.10613569
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>>10612351

its just a fan cover. there are some pretty dank ones floating around out there.

i actually ordered my copy of blood meridian from abroad because the UK cover is so much more aesthetic than every available US cover imo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 16:44:02 2018 No.10613610 >Search >for >Lost >Time ah yes, that well known tome, aka Things in Past Remembrance

Anonymous Tue Jan 30 16:57:11 2018 No.10613672

>>10613550
Did BEE ever respond to this? There’s no way he could come back from this complete humiliation. That last one cuts deep if you think about what he means by graffiti. Jesus Christ I almost feel bad for the guy.
>>10613322
Do you find the thought of a giant naked man walking a retard through the desert by a leash at all humorous? That kind of humor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 30 21:03:56 2018 No.10614909 >>10613569 christ that cover is awful

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:18:40 2018 No.10615997

the saddest thing about norm (besides the drug addiction and killing his son's friend) is that he thinks he's good at standup. his standup is dogshit, he's only funny while talking to people. when he talks about standup being "the only thing" or whatever and being on the rushmore of standup it reminds me of rogan -just fucking delusional about their own talent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:37:54 2018 No.10616076 >>10612293 Blood Meridian is my favorite book ever and I will die on any hill for McCarthy, unless it's the road

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 01:41:12 2018 No.10616096 >>10615997 >drug addiction and killing his son's friend fill me in on the dirt. is it xanax? ive always suspected he had a thing for xanax it fits his personality. i agree about his standup, it's meh. he is the god of talk show interview though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 02:03:31 2018 No.10616205 File: 7 KB, 225x225, 1507934128793.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10608159

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 02:03:59 2018 No.10616208 >>10616096 xanax, oxy, klonopin and probably more. he didn't actually kill his son's friend, he just left a ton of narcotics in the house while the friend who had a history of narcotic addiction house-sat for him and the son's friend OD'd.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 06:12:06 2018 No.10616898 File: 18 KB, 1026x227, hesayshesayshesays.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who was it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 06:39:06 2018 No.10616995 >>10613550 >He called DFW's writing "mannered" in an interview. Source? Couldn't find it on google.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:07:00 2018 No.10617107 >>10616898 Likely to be pynchon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:18:42 2018 No.10617151 >>10617107 Of course, why bother hiding if it was McCarthy

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:38:15 2018 No.10617217 >>10607476 So what happened when Norm met Thomas Pynchon or Cormac McCarthy? He posted on twitter a while ago (before christmas, maybe autumn time) he was about to meet one of the two

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:43:20 2018 No.10617236 >>10608700 Norm McDonald is a stand-up comedian who is pals with Adam Sandler. >>10608738 Why was he fired, anon?

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:50:05 2018 No.10617258

>>10612052
Having read the Handmaid's Tale, I disagree with him. It's a good portrayal of totalitarianism and the private lives people live, even in highly monitored soaces. What's more, it isn't fantastical when she literally restricts herself to only things with precedent in history.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 07:57:25 2018 No.10617279 >>10612342 Nah, I understand exactly what you mean. Would recommend Child of God or Outer Dark first for when you do want to try him out. Blood Meridian usually puts people off if they haven't read any of Cormac's work beforehand.

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 08:00:52 2018 No.10617288

>>10613322
His books are really not funny at all unless if you find a sort of gallows humour in a bulky bald man raping children and fucking corpses (Blood Meridian has this but it's delivered in a surprisingly ambiguous way, it doesn't tell you that it was The Judge but you know it probably was him).

I think Child of God might be the closest Cormac McCarthy has gotten to any sense of humour and that's only because when you push a person living on the fringe of society into a place where he must interact with other people, you get some surprisingly peculiar events. It's not a comedy in any way, but you might smirk a little during that book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 08:01:55 2018 No.10617295 >>10613569 > the UK cover Nah it's not, dude. I have it and it's that awful looking bulky typeface for a cover. It's off-putting imo, makes it look like an edgy teen western.

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 08:05:09 2018 No.10617314

>>10617151
In fairness, McCarthy is a fairly quiet and secretive gentleman too. The only interviews he's done is one for Oprah because The Road was an immense success and a niche one with Werner Herzog discussing art and science. Both were over ten years ago and he doesn't do publicity tours or anything like that. I think apart from those interviews and some photographs taken for the books, he really does keep himself to himself.

Saying that, in the interviews Cormac seems very modest and I doubt he would care much if someone were to talk about meeting him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 08:07:29 2018 No.10617317 File: 369 KB, 1019x918, art.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10607476 Pynchon is shit

Anonymous Wed Jan 31 09:00:00 2018 No.10617474
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>>10610901
Sincerely, eat 'shrooms with your friends in nature. Or, eat them by yourself in a library. Either one should cause a seismic shift in your attachment to this mortal coil.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 09:01:23 2018 No.10617478 >>10617317 Not anywhere near as bad as Sunset found her squatting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 09:33:58 2018 No.10617581 >>10617288 i see. i wanna read suttree after some anon praised it here a while back, someone else coincidentally called it mccarthy at his most humorous

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 09:44:48 2018 No.10617628 >>10610877 definitely should start with his espys

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 31 10:01:40 2018 No.10617713 >>10617236 he hosted weekend update, too many OJ jokes was the excuse from snl

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