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>5 fucking Peterson threads are up, that's totally /lit/
>but Marx is not /lit/
kill yourselves you worthless cunts

>> No.10574677

>>10574672
marx threads belong on /b/ with the rest of the underageb& bullshit

>> No.10574688

>>10574672
if there weren't any shit-threads then could we truly enjoy the non-shitthreads? Would not the lower subset of unexcreted threads just become shitthreads to compensate? hmmmmmm

>> No.10574694

>>10574672
Peterson posting is mostly baiting and memeing.

>>10574677
While it is true that mostly teenagers will ask about him, he influenced a lot things and is still worth talking about.

>> No.10574706

Marx is a monumental thinker of a monumental era, he is absolutely /lit/
>>10574677
>never read Marx
Just think of him as a politically focused Materialist Hegelian- you know, what he is- instead of some leftist boogeyman from back before there was even a left as we know it

>> No.10574709

>>10574672
Commie fuck off. Literally the worst ideological cancer possible.

>> No.10574716

>>10574706
He was a very good thinker, but that's all he was. All he had to do was step outside his NEET writing dungeon and get a government job to realise how wrong he was.

>> No.10574718

>>10574709
That doesn't mean it's not worth discussing brainlet

>> No.10574723

>>10574709
>>10574677
Reminder to all the /pol/ newfags who don't fucking read that Marx's characterization of human productivity, right and purpose was more akin to Locke than what you think to be Left. Reminder that alienation and labor estrangement theory is a critique of modernity you would love if you didn't know the author. Reminder that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, and couldn't form a critique of Marx, even though there is a whole lot of room, because you haven't read him. Reminder to fuckoff from a literature board if you don't even read, and drag in contemporary politics to a discussion of a 150+ year old thinker because you read about vague neo-Marxism somewhere.

>> No.10574735

>>10574723
The only thing less human than a so-called alienated worker under capitalism is an alienated intellectual who thinks he knows what's best for the working man.

>> No.10574743

>>10574735
>>10574735
Told em. I bet you're right tho. The herd rarely errs. If you can make it through the work day, you can probably solve the nations problems. A nations just a really big family and an economy is it's swear jar.

A guy I'd like to have a beer with. Invest in gold coins. He tells it like it is. My daddy used to say, it's not the size that matters, but now you use it. And so on.

>> No.10574747

>>10574672
books are retarded and gay, youtube is the literature of the now age

>> No.10574749

>>10574672
umm sweetie books are for retarded faggots and youtube videos are today's version of joseph smith nailing the king james version to the doors of the vatican

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>>10574672
>tfw still no pictures
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>> No.10574755

meta threads don't belong on /lit either

>> No.10574766

>>10574755
how convenient for the mods, yea, take the meta discussion from the board in causa to the one nobody browses (besides me probably)

>> No.10574798

10574672
10574706
>instead of some leftist boogeyman from back before there was even a left as we know it
Idealist socialism, humanist socialism, and- broadly speaking- intellectual anti-capitalism, esp. from the developing post-FR cosmopolitan global class, had existed since long before Marx. What a shitty post.

>>10574723
Stop throwing a schizoid spergragefit over /pol/ and get it together, autist.
>Marx's characterization of human productivity, right and purpose was more akin to Locke than what you think to be Left.
No one cares about somebody's conception of human nature or rights in classifying them somewhere along the left/right dichotomy. It's the degree of sociomaterial gradation they advocate for,- exclusivity, hierarchy, equity, sovereignty, all that. All thinkers during the era sounded similar to one another, because all that existed intellectually was pursuit of Enlightenment ideals. Let's also get this out of the way: the Frankfurt School wasnt right-wing or reactionary in its criticism of cultural degradation under capitalism, Zizek isn't a cryptoreactionary, and the /pol/tard bigots wouldn't switch over to your side if they were just to skim through Baudrillard. The "ruthless critique of everything", destruction of sanctity of previous status-quo power dynamics & cultural objects is, to the radical right, the cultural subversion itself. Don't be so un-self-aware. We don't like you and never will.
>Reminder that alienation and labor estrangement theory is a critique of modernity you would love
Alienation etc is a critique of the dynamics, construction, and flow of capital. Marx never attacked "modernity", he was the diamat historical determinism guy that believed history was moving forward and getting better at all times? Are you fucking retarded? Do you know what "modernity" is?
>Reminder that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, and couldn't form a critique of Marx
Is it every poster here's job to write up their own unique critique of Marx? He's irrelevant. Post-Kant, every philosopher shouldn't take it upon themselves

>> No.10574803

SHITPOST

>> No.10574822

>>10574798
>Idealist socialism, humanist socialism, and- broadly speaking- intellectual anti-capitalism
Yes, but not really, it was at such early stages, and that post was directed to the straw average /pol/tard, so I meant contemporary socially liberal left, what /pol/ would call "sjws," because that is their depth of understanding, and what they link to neo-marxism and marxism. That was the point of the entire post, to encourage those who would dismiss him to read his work because of his influence, if you want to argue against collectivism, materialist dialectic based on production, or labour surplus theory I would agree. It's just that this is a literature board and most discussion involving the most influential thinker of the 19th century turns into shallow memeposting or retarded youtube comment talk of human nature
>Alienation etc is a critique of the dynamics, construction, and flow of capital. Marx never attacked "modernity"
Production, labor and capital are parts of modernity, and critiqing a stage of it doesn't imply you are against it as a whole, its a critique, ones whose ideas you can use.
>Is it every poster here's job to write up their own unique critique of Marx?
It absolutely is the posters job to understand Marx's ideas if they are going to dismiss them. I'm not even a Marxist or on the left, I browsed /pol/ for a couple years before growing up
> He's irrelevant. Post-Kant, every philosopher shouldn't take it upon themselves
Should've opened with that so I wouldn't waste my time engaging with you.

>> No.10574839

>>10574723
Marxfags don't even read Marx. This board is being raided by reddit in attempts to push their leftist agenda. People who post Marx don't care about literature, they care about spreading communism.