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SFFG's 2018 Resolutions
>What are sff your plans for 2018?
>How fired up are you to get started?
>2017 sff disappoints that are brought over to 2018?

FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21326.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

Previous Threads:
>>10550748
>>10541359
>>10531035
>>10517971
>>10508558
>>10497283
>>10489971

>> No.10561519

First for Sanderson-san

>> No.10561555

Second for webnovels are novels too

>> No.10561563

>>10561519

sandarfag a hack

>> No.10561584

we miss you CAS-kun, come back to us

>> No.10561976

>>10561509
>what are sff your plans for 2018?
read the cleric quintet and the stormlight archives and possibly the first wheel of time book
>how fired up are you?
ive been super excited since the beginning of the year and have been reading basically non-stop.
>2017 sff disappoints that are brought over to 2018?
wind of winter wasnt released and probably wont be released this year or even ever

>> No.10562109

Is it even possible to write in this Trump era ? How can you write fiction when internet activism needs to be done!

>> No.10562127

>>10561555
only the worm guy's ones tho

>> No.10562180

>>10562127
nope

>> No.10562191

>>10562180
yes

>> No.10562211

>>10562191
no

>> No.10562222

But who is Hoid?

>> No.10562262
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10562262

can /lit/ please recommend some High Fantasy?

>> No.10562283 [DELETED] 

Does anyone have any advice for a novice writer who's writing his first sword and sorcery novel? (I posted in the last thread.)

>> No.10562294

Does anyone have any advice for a novice writer who is writing his first sword & sorcery story? (I posted in the last thread.)

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>>10562294
>Does anyone have any advice for a novice writer
Yea. Stop touching my fucking daughter before I break your face.

>> No.10562365

>>10562262
> jack vance, dying earth
> jack vance, lyonesse saga
> gene wolfe, wizard and knight
> black company
> shadow of the torturer / new sun books

>> No.10562370

>>10562262
try the novelizations for magic the gathering

>> No.10562410

>>10562330
you think that door can stop ME? i'll jimmy that shit then take all your young, innocent ideas for myself while you cry in the corner.

>> No.10562481

>>10562294
write
write
write
submit to zines and semi-pro zines and professional magazines
study their rejection letters
try writing courses like the Clarion Workshop, and/or English/Lit degree
>>10562365
dying earth is not high fantasy, it is dying earth
its called the wizard knight you moran
black company is not high fantasy, its sword and sorcery/low fantasy/genre trash
shadow of the torturer/new sun is dying earth

>> No.10562653

>>10562481
black company absolutely is high fantasy you mong

Even if we use the incorrect definition of high fantasy when people mean has magic and shit black company has gods and spells and prophecy all over the place

>> No.10562683
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10562683

What are these >>10561450 and should I be interested?
Also anyone read pic related?

>> No.10562699
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10562699

>black company
>high fantasy
fufufu

>> No.10562949
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10562949

>>10562699

>> No.10563084
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>>10562410
Good luck on being rejected for being a shit writer with other people's ideas.

>> No.10563092

>>10562294
S&s is garbage, you should neck yourself.

>> No.10563096

>>10561509
Getting into PKD books. Already got Ubik, will get High Castle or Eldritch Palmer if I like it.

>> No.10563201

>>10562294
>>10560927

I thought it seemed very Conan-inspired, and I like that. Don't worry if the first draft comes out as almost a pastiche, you'll still have something to feel accomplished about, and you can always go back in and rework it at a later date to make it more original. The first story I ever wrote start to finish was essentially a thinly-veiled homage to At the Mountains of Madness set in the Congo in the 19th century. I wouldn't even consider trying to get it published now, but it was a great learning experience.

>> No.10563242

>>10563084
>implying aspiring authors are any longer under the thumb of gatekeepers of any kind
This is the age of Wattpad, KDP, and litrpgs sucka

>> No.10563252

>>10562330
If you're dumb enough to think ideas are what make authors successful, rather than skill and perseverance, your ideas are probably worthless anyway. Sorry.

Can you seriously name one time in history when an author was impoverished because someone stole his idea? Do you even know how that works? If someone uses your idea and it's successful it doesn't raze the field, it grows your fanbase. Not that you're ever going to write anything, mind.

>> No.10563292
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>>10562262
Tad Williams first trilogy.

>> No.10563305
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>>10562949
>madaras
>image clearly says mandras
wew lad

>> No.10563311

>>10563305
look more closely

>> No.10563479

Will I be too lost if I read Mona Lisa Overdrive without reading the other books in the trilogy?

>> No.10563551
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10563551

>"almond brown eyes"
im gonna fucking lose it if i see this description in another book

>> No.10563581

>>10563479
maybe, maybe not, that's the one that actually does have callbacks of the two sequels.
But why the hell would you read the last book of a trilogy without reading the first two when they're all good.

>> No.10563592

>>10562294

start writing space operas instead. Fantasy is for brainlets

>> No.10563651

>>10563551
>describing eyes as "orbs"
>more than one word adjectives to describe physical features
>sea green eyes or any variation thereof

>> No.10563671
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10563671

Posting! One week left until deadline! We'll figure out what we're reading next after the 27th.

Download link: http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1059

>> No.10563672

>>10563651
>>describing eyes as "orbs"
this always freaks me out because I can't help but imagine huge, telescopic eyes protruding from the skull. Orbs are 3D and you are not supposed to see the whole fucking thing, no way.

>> No.10563730

Pete, look lad, your books are pretty good (Blindsight>>Echopraxia), but PLEASE HIRE A FUCKING EDITOR FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
Or hire a better one.

>> No.10563785

Can somebody recommend me some funny fantasy books/series

Fantasy or high fantasy is fine.

It would be greatly appreciated

>> No.10563891
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10563891

I want to get into Warhammer fantasy books. What's a good solid story to start with? I was thinking about reading the Darkblade series by Dan Abnett and Mike Lee. Any other suggestions? It doesn't have to be super lore heavy. I just want to get into the world just a little bit and then if I like the story I'll get into the lore after that.

>> No.10563911
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10563911

>City of stairs
>Best served cold
>Children of earth and sky
>Gloriana
Got all of them new for $20.
>cheeki breeki palets viken

>> No.10563946

>>10563911

Why are Russian covers also the best?

>> No.10563947

>>10562262
The Wizard Knight
Arts of Dark and Light

>> No.10563975

>>10563252
>Can you seriously name one time in history when an author was impoverished because someone stole his idea?
You should do your own research.

>> No.10563985

>>10563785
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser

>> No.10563990

>>10563911
How many squats cwn you do in a minute?

>> No.10563999

>>10563990
> cwn
?
About 40.

>> No.10564001
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>>10563911
>>Children of earth and sky
>>Gloriana
Sell me on these two.
I liked tigana really well.
Never touched Michael Morecock.
How gri is it? How is the magic?

>> No.10564005

>>10563999
Can*
Typing fast and hitting enter is a bane of mu existence.

>> No.10564008

>>10563999
>>10563911
Is squatting a national pastime of your people?

>> No.10564020

>>10556204
Just finished the first book, I forgot how comfy it was. I wish there was a whole book of Ogion just walking around and being wise.
Love how tight the magic system is, too. Very well thought out and crafted.

>> No.10564033

Is Mistborn worth reading?
I hear some people say that the second era is pretty good?

>> No.10564057

>>10564001
I dunno. Bought them today.

>> No.10564110

>>10563092
>S&s is garbage
What makes sword & sorcery garbage?

>> No.10564138
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>>10563092
>S&s is garbage, you should neck yourself.

>> No.10564208
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10564208

I want to bite the bullet and read one of those chink webnovels that are popular now. Assuming I was going to read only one, which should it be?

>> No.10564227
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10564227

Why aren't you starving artis-..authors cashing in on the litrpg craze? This new genre is allowing people to rake in some serious dough.
Instead of writing your Conan and Pkd knockoffs which no one wants to read, why not write something where people would pay you through patreon to see?

>> No.10564236

>>10564057
So you buy shit without doing research?

>> No.10564250
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>>10564227
I might actually try my hand at this. People are making some bank. And i see the autists in these generals lap it up. If I could get a devoted following who shills and memes my books for me i would be made. Would probably be invited to writing conventions.

>> No.10564256

>>10564227
What is this, something like SAO?

>> No.10564295
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10564295

>>10564256
No it's Brorotica, "Thorvald's Galloping Abs" but for guys.

>> No.10564304
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10564304

Are audiobooks the future?

I see a lot of book reviews in goodreads that state that the person ((((read)))) the audiobook versions.
Even no name authors have audiobooks these days.

>> No.10564311

>>10564295
>Brorotica
That makes it sound gay desu. Like a couple of bros doing "bro" stuff. Gay as fuck.

>> No.10564336

>>10564311
>yes good goy, masculine is gay!

>> No.10564347

>>10564236
>how dare you to buy books without reading them first?

>> No.10564352
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10564352

Is this any good?

>> No.10564369

>>10564227
i liked supersales and daniel black specifically because they werent litrpgs.
sure theres some stats here and there but they arent actually litrpgs.
havent read wild wastes yet but i heard its more basically pure erotica.

>> No.10564402

>>10563975
Nah, how about you just back up your claim.

>> No.10564407

>>10562481

What magazines could I subscribe to

I want to read short stories by amateurs

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10564424

To the anon in the last thread who was looking for more like Cugel...

Haven't read it personally, but I hear Nifft the Lean by Michael Shea fits the bill. Shea acutually wrote a sequel to Eyes of the Overworld that was approved by Vance

>> No.10564425

>>10564407
That's what fanfiction sites are for? There's some "original stories" tags on ao3, but other than that you can just find some out there AUs. At that point, the names are the same, but it's functionally a new story.

>> No.10564435

>>10563201
I stayed up all night and just hammered out the first draft (Or plot outline, I guess you'd call it. I'm not sure.)

So far, this has been a blast to write, and I think it'll end up nice.

It's got sex, violence, slave-girls, mild racism, dismemberment, orgies, and seething barbarians covered in the blood of lesser men. I honestly didn't know I had it in me. Now I just gotta see it through. But for now, I'mma get some sleep.

Thank you again for your advice.

>> No.10564441

>>10564435
>mild racism
I'm gonna need more racism.

>> No.10564458

>>10564441
Pic related is the main antagonist, so...

Also, there's a scene with their queen getting bleached/colonized by Wiyte Boi The Barbarian.

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>>10564458
Fuck, of course forgot pic.

>> No.10564529

>>10564208
world of cultivation

>> No.10564707

>>10564352
Yah. Be sure to pick up Incal, too.

>> No.10564778

>>10564336
It is. Do you see how women wet their panties at a chad? Faggots void their bowels the same way when they see a chad or a bear. If that isn't gay I don't know what is.

>goy
Why don't you take your soyshake to >>>/hm/

>> No.10564783

>>10564352
>wears armor
>leaving leaves a huge spot so I can have easy access to her heart / lungs/ spine
>logic

>> No.10564797

>>10564783
The Metabarons have no time for logic.

>> No.10564803

>>10564464
Why are their penises in bamboo tubes and horns?

>> No.10564809

>>10564803
Phallus protection/projection.

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>>10561509
>What are sff your plans for 2018?
Complete the first draft of my first novel
>How fired up are you to get started?
Pretty fired up. I'm 40k in already from 2017.

>> No.10564834

>>10564803
Why isn't yours?

>> No.10564957
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10564957

Read through Mass Effect and play the game.
>Chyeahhh!

>> No.10564974

>>10564957
I'm going to cum in your mouth.

>> No.10565032

>>10564208
Martial World

>> No.10565040

>>10564957
the valentine and jemisin books are p.good

>> No.10565059

>>10565032
disgusting

>> No.10565075

>>10565059
Yes. But it fits the pic perfectly

>> No.10565088

>>10565075
I suppose

>> No.10565098

/sFFg/, I'm looking for a book and I need your help.
I read it roughly ten years ago. It was about a girl going to a magic school and meeting some elf guy. I think she wanted to get into his pants at some point.
He turns out to be a loon however and tries to pull some bullshit with a magical portal or well or whatever on the school grounds.
It was pretty dumb and generic.

>> No.10565106

>>10565098
think it was The Silver Amulet, the first book in The Torchbearer Chronicles

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>>10564783
>>wears armor
>>leaving leaves a huge spot so I can have easy access to her heart / lungs/ spine
>>logic

>> No.10565259

Does anybody else just skip pages that include characters you don't like?
I am just trying to read Prince of Nothing, but it keeps interrupting with chapters about Esmenet, and not once in either the previous book, or this one, has there been anything fun in these chapters, every one is filled with either sex, or her thoughts about what a fucking whore she is, and it's just so fucking boring.
Why do authors add this shitty romance and characters in books where it adds nothing but thicken an already thick book?

>> No.10565280

I have, like, a shitload of Audible credits. Probably going to pick up Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell. Any other recs for good shit on that site?

>> No.10565283

>>10565259
>Does anybody else just skip pages that include characters you don't like?
Yeah. Especially if there are character chapters. I'll also skip sex scenes in general. The real kicker is that even if I skip eight fucking chapters of Cockslap McGee 9/10 the book still works perfectly fine.

>>10565259
>Why do authors add this shitty romance
it's a cop out, because romance is easy to write. Oh, look, they're having sex! Romance! Instead of having to actually write an actual relationship, they just write sexual tension.

>> No.10565435

>>10565283
>Instead of having to actually write an actual relationship, they just write sexual tension.
This gets me so much. It's not even hard to write two characters doing something cooperatively while they're gradually coming to like each other more.

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>>10564957
>read mass effect
Why would I do that when Revelation Space exists?

>> No.10565625

>>10564227
I wouldn't class any of those books as litrpg. They are a combination of harem building, building building with some added erections.

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>>10565625
>combination of harem building, building building with some added erections.
i like you

>> No.10565930

>>10565625
What is litrpg.

>> No.10566099

>>10565930
its a new thing called literary role playing game.
its like playing a roleplaying game but you dont get to choose anything. all it means theres stats and skillups everywhere.
extensively. its actually rather annoying.
>>10564227
these arent actually litrpgs.
actual litrpgs are basically pages of spreadsheets. and its fucking horrible.
try reading "the land". its horrendous.

>> No.10566297

>>10566099
>Hello you Kings of Fantasy and Queens of Sci-Fi!

>I have been reading sci-fi and fantasy for basically thirty years. In the past year I am honored and blessed to have earned the title "The Father of American LitRPG"

How the fuck is he the father?

>> No.10566425

>>10566297
i dont know.
i seem to notice that litrpgs have mainstream appeal. so that might be it. from what i understand the land is the first time people might come in contact with litrpgs.

>> No.10566435

>>10565930
Imagine Sword Art Online but more pathetic.

>> No.10566561

>listening to jonathan strange & mr. norrell
>starts interesting
>they go to london and the author IMMEDIATELY starts wanking about london
I fucking hate the British
Do they leave London soon or should I just fucking pass on the rest of this if I care more about the magic shit than 1800s english polite society

>> No.10566578

how do you maximize your comfy when reading fantasy?

>> No.10566585

>>10566561
There's a big arc where Jonathan Strange fights Napoleon in Spain and they spend a lot of time in magic lands and such, London's not all that important.

Out of curiosity, why did you think it started interesting? Almost everyone I've talked to about it thought the beginning was excruciating.

>>10566578
I try not to picture anything as modern pink slime fantasy, push Jackson images out of my head while reading LotR, that sort of thing.

>> No.10566590

>>10563551
why? almond is a COLOR you faggot, it's not just imagery, almond is a literal very common eye color. are you also mad when people describe an eye as deep blue?

>> No.10566592

>>10566585
>modern pink slime fantasy
what's that?

>> No.10566599

>>10566592
orcs and elves and d&d and such

>> No.10566600

what are some books where the single pov hero receives dick? Consensual or not

>> No.10566608

>>10566585
>why did you think it started interesting
it was well-written exposition that got me interested in the characters and the history
unfortunately as soon as they go to england the author completely forgets that maybe magic and fairies would have had some influence on london's history and therefore an impact on its conversations and shit
4 hours in though and I've been tuned out for the last 20 minutes while some people who are clearly side characters discuss [exposition] in the most boring way possible, it's completely lost me

>> No.10566613

>>10566585
>I try not to picture anything as modern pink slime fantasy, push Jackson images out of my head while reading LotR, that sort of thing.
I meant more like, how do you ensure you're in a good environment/state for reading.

>> No.10566617

>>10566608
I guess it's just meant to be read.

>> No.10566627

>>10566617
if i'd had to read this shit off the page i'd have put the book down
why did more brits learn from austen than milton

>> No.10566633

>>10566627
It starts picking up when Norrell meets the man with thistle-down hair and it's pretty solid from that point.

>> No.10566643

>>10562294
Read some David Gemmell and take notes

>> No.10566675
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10566675

When does it get good? Does Paul actually develop a personality?

>> No.10566708

>>10566561
You fahkin apologise right now for slagging orf lahndan tawn

>> No.10566777

>>10566590
Almond is the shape. When they say almond the person is most likely asian descent.

>> No.10566799

>>10566777
almond is a color

>> No.10566837

>>10566777
Almond is a brown color. The nut is spelled "almon."

>> No.10566839

>>10566799
almond is old man

>> No.10566890

time doesn't mean much where I live, it's easy to lose track. I just realized I haven't eaten in 5 days

>> No.10566897

>>10566837
you're thinking of 'salmon', which is a fish

>> No.10566904

>>10566897
Salmon is a biblical king. You're thinking of "sardine."

>> No.10566937

>>10566837
Almond is a shape and a nut.
The d is silent, that is why it's pronounced as all-mon, but spelt almond.

>> No.10566942

>>10566937
Almond is a color and a city in Wisconsin (named after the almond-brown clothes of the Russian immigrants that settled there). Spelt is actually spelt "spelled."

>> No.10566944

>>10566904
>>10566837
That's solomon
>esl trying to be funny/smart with a language they know nothing of.

>> No.10566946

>>10566904
Aaaassaaaaasaa1!!!!!!!

>> No.10566948

>>10566944
Solomon actually refers to a group of islands near New Guinea, though the name was used by H. Rider Haggard in his book "King Solomon's Mines" for an unknown reason.

>> No.10566953

>>10566942
Spelt is the past participle of spell.

>> No.10566960

>>10566953
It's actually a species of wheat. The past participle of "spell" is technically "gespellend," though it has recently fallen out of popular usage.

>> No.10566966

>>10566960
>gespellend
Now you're just taking the piss. You're bored aren't you? What are you doing here on 4chen on a Saturday night? Go out there and get some asspussy or pussypussy.

>> No.10566987

>>10566966
>just now realizing
If I weren't on 4chan on Saturday night I wouldn't belong on 4chan in the rest of the week.

>> No.10566995

>>10566937
we say the d in almond though, not saying it is a thing only mongoloid yanks who also say urb do

>> No.10567056

>>10561509
Newfaggot here, what other writers beside Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein and Dick are essential american sci-fi writers worth reading?

>> No.10567080
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>>10567056

>> No.10567209

If a power required a mini chemistry lesson every time it was used a different way, would that make it a bad power?

>> No.10567315

>>10567209
Read daniel black.

>> No.10567391

> Here is the reason. The sea's name is inien, well and good. But what we call the Inmost Sea has its own name also in the Old Speech. Since no thing can have two true names, inien can mean only 'all the sea except the Inmost Sea.' And of course it does not mean even that, for there are seas and bays and straits beyond counting that bear names of their own. So if some Mage-Seamaster were mad enough to try to lay a spell of storm or calm over all the ocean, his spell must say not only that word inien, but the name of every stretch and bit and part of the sea through all the Archipelago and all the Outer Reaches and beyond to where names cease. Thus, that which gives us the power to work magic sets the limits of that power. A mage can control only what is near him, what he can name exactly and wholly.
Does Earthsea have the most well crafted magic system in fiction?

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>thinking about writing a big mech robo novel
>trying to come up with cool sci fi justifications for why they exist instead of just "lol cuz it's cool"
>lightbulb
>several factions a few dozen years ago are at war
>2 develop massive godlike AI constructs to make tactical decisions, all other factions die out almost instantly due to this
>overseen by human leaders, the AIs both decide on FTL mass drivers to annihilate enemy planets in one go
>they eventually both build more and more complex defenses to prevent these sorts of tactics, but glassing from orbit remains a (difficult) option for a while
>AI eventually make contact with each other, each try to overpower the other to leave the other side defenseless
>they're perfectly equally match, eventually merge protocols together to ensure survival of at least part of themselves
>both have equally opposing directives of "protect my side, destroy other side"
>"protect my side" is more heavily weighted on both for obvious reasons
>new combo AI becomes obsessed with ending all war
>pretends to still be 2 AIs, as central servers are vulnerable to plug being pulled
>assassinate human leaders, make it out to be "unfortunate accidents/sabotage from enemy"
>start making the most retarded and inefficient decisions possible to slow the death count while they formulate a grey goo to upload humans into VR paradise (will take a few decades to replicate enough to effectively distribute)
>war goes on for a few decades with giant robots and "rule of cool" taking precedent over winning the war, due to AI's charade of being the new god leaders of mankind
>giant robots justified
good lore, y/n? Wanted to push for a "mad god" kind of lovecraftian AI horror with your best interests at heart, plus cool giant robots

>> No.10567505

>>10567444
Is that Destiny?

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>>10567505
The picture? No, it's from Titanfall 2.
The story snippet? No, it's something that's boiling in my brain, and as far as I can tell, Destiny only shares the "mad AI god" concept in the Warminds.

>> No.10567654

>>10567391
Yes, it's fucking fantastic.

>> No.10567670

Anyone recommend me some decent hard sci fi?

>> No.10567731

>>10566675
Dune really never gets good in the way you're looking for, it tears into the bog-standard hero's journey with no bells or whistles added on. To make Paul into a real character would deviate from that.

What Paul becomes is a mad god who is either feared, worshiped or both by anyone who knows him even tangentially.

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>>10565259
Don't skip pages! Skip books! The first book is great, the rest are trash.

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>>10566578
Get physical books with kino cover and illustrations inside.

>> No.10567783

>>10567670
Diaspora

>> No.10567814

>>10563891

I would suggest Gotrek and Felix as an intro to the setting, especially because Trollslayer (book one) is a collection of short stories which show a wide selection of different areas/races/etc. It is also something you can just put down once you finish, since it works fine as a standalone. I like the Malus Darkblade books but I don't think they're as a good an intro to the setting, since they kind of focus on one area (Dark Elves). I also kind of think it worked better as a comic book back in the day. That said you probably won't go wrong starting there either, you just might appreciate some of the things in the Malus Darkblade series more if you already have a basic understanding of the setting.

Also I personally would avoid all of the End Times crap and the "deity origin stories" (Sigmar/Malekith/Nagash) books like the plague.

>> No.10567849

>>10566837
>>10566937

WRONG the L is silent, it is pronounced Ahmond.

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>>10563891
None of them are very good if you're not a fan of the game.

>>10562294
Yes.

Stick to the classic three act structure and heroes journey cliche.
Cliches exist for a reason, only break or bend them when when they will break immersion.

>>10564208
Warlock of the magus world, it's long but has a feint gene wolf/ old mtg flavor.

>>10564227
Literally doing that now, as we speak.

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The Demolished Man would've had the perfect ending if he cut the last chapter. Was Alfred Bester stupid or was he just chasing a few more serialization cents?

>> No.10568094

>>10565435
Yeah, it's the single most infuriating thing a medium will do to try and sell it to a bigger demographic. There are so many good (movies especially), that are fucking ruined by a stupid, contrived romance subplot.
That's why when Pacific Rim ended with them NOT kissing, it was such a huge fucking deal. Fury Road, too. The only romance (which was fucking adorable) was between the warboy and the redhead. It wasn't contrived, it wasn't a subplot, it was just the evolution of their characters.
If people want romance they'll consume romance. People need to stop cramming it down our throats.

>> No.10568175

What does /lit/ think?

https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/1146-the-year-s-most-anticipated-science-fiction-fantasy

The Queens of Innis Lear and Circe look good to me. Also Age of War for when I finish Age of Myth and Age of Swords.

>> No.10568198

>>10564304

i enjoy audiobooks desu since i can listen to them in bed easily. I can see them becoming super popular with normies who can't read good as they already are kinda. The problem is that a good book can be made shitty by a terrible Narrator (or will wheaton) although a bad book can be made better by the narrator's voice acting

>> No.10568202

>>10567670
>decent
>hard sci-fi
Pick one and only one.

>> No.10568204

>>10568175
>dive into a new series
>red rising sequel trilogy that relies on you having read the first one
lol

>> No.10568214

>>10568175
been meaning to try waking gods for years now

>> No.10568238

what are some books where the single pov hero receives dick? Consensual or not.
I am not asking this for sexual reasons

>> No.10568347

>>10568238
Your mom's diary.

>> No.10568580

>>10568238
Please leave, Sweden.

>> No.10568606

>>10568580
what did you mean by this

>> No.10568630

>>10568238

your biography that i'm writing

>> No.10568653

>>10568238
>>>/gif/gay

>> No.10568665

>>10568653
again, it's not for eroticism. and I never said the hero had to be male. stop memeing

>> No.10568677

>>10568665
see
>>10568653

>> No.10568693

>>10568677
Why? this is the thread for fantasy novels

>> No.10568694

>>10568693
see
>>10568580

>> No.10568700

>>10568694
jesus christ fuck off you skank

>> No.10568704

>>10568700
rude. stop behaving like a nigger.
back to sweden with you.

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Thanks for the rec /sffg/, this was pretty good and I fully intend to adhere to the advice from the previous thread to read the sequel and not touch the Endymion books.

>> No.10568716

>>10568704
Stop behaving like an edgy bitch. if you're not going to answer the question just leave me alone

>> No.10568721

>>10568716
no u

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>Like the first two books so of course I order this
>It's 600 pages long and has a cover blurb by Barack Obama

Please tell me I didn't get memed.

>> No.10568729

>>10568721
I'm not edgy I'm a good girl you're the one that started this

>> No.10568731

>>10568726
>has a cover blurb by Obama
>no blurb
You ripped me off, anon.

>> No.10568734

>>10568726
what does the 'bama say?

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what is the canonical critical theory for /sffg/?

I recently ordered Language of the Night. I'll admit that I've only read SF&M.B from the collection, but I'm excited to read more.

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>>10568731
>>10568734

>> No.10568756

>>10568752
wow that's pretty descriptive. Definitely there for the blurb and not for the name

>> No.10568758

I've read Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said, and would like to read another PKD novel. I've heard of The Man in the High Castle, thoughts on it? I am intrigued.

>> No.10568762

>>10568735
There is no canonical sff critical theory, which is great because canonizing literary criticism wrecks actual literature.

>> No.10568769

>>10568175
Is it wrong for me to want to automatically all books in that list written by a woman?

>> No.10568780

>>10568758
It's PKD's only carefully-edited novel, and the level of polish is noticeable. It is pretty good if a tad aimless, not a bad choice.

Ubik is most similar to Flow My Tears. The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch is better than either. I would consider High Castle, Three Stigmata, and VALIS to be the three key PKD novels, and they more or less correspond to "early/mature", "middle", and "late" in terms of his style and themes.

>> No.10568786

>>10568175
I don't understand how anyone could slog through all that garbage to find a decent book or two.

>> No.10568790

>>10568735
>critical theory
Please fuck off, marxshit.

>> No.10568791

>>10568786
Go back to sucking Sanderson's dick.

>> No.10568795

>>10568780
Great post, thank you!

>> No.10568809

>>10568726
It's not as insane as Three Body, or as gritty as Dark Forest, but it basically takes the ideas form the first two books and thrusts them aggressively into the future until they're running ragged. Wraps up the series great, in my opinion. Also you're lying if you didn't cackle like a deranged cunt when it opens during the siege of Constantinople.

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When will you finally admit that Denna is a well-written character?

>> No.10569405

>>10569213
hurry up mueller ! so we can get book 3!

>> No.10569485

>>10569213
>the same ill thoughts
I don't have ill thoughts about her? kvothe is the cuck nerd that needs to come out with it

>> No.10569560

>>10568175
i'm starting to get turned off from fantasy in general. there's no one writing anything interesting or breaking new ground.
guess I'll keep working backwards lads, maybe someone will blow the doors off eventually.

>> No.10569589

>>10569560
>no one writing anything interesting or breaking new ground
Well it is pretty hard to do with fantasy. It is a overrun genre and most things have been done already. There comes a point where all you can do is tell the same story in different ways

Try switching genre for a while or read a different sub-genre of fantasy to what you usually read.

>> No.10569590

>>10564033
Yes. It's apparently popular on here to hate on Sanderson, but Mistborn and Stormlight Archive are great. The ending of the trilogy will blow your mind, it gets insane.

>> No.10569645

>>10568735
Language of the Night is good stuff. From Elfland to Poughkeepsie is the most important essay in there, in my opinion. Diana Wynne Jones and Orson Scott Card have nice essays if you can track them down.

Tom Simon's criticism is also very good, especially in Writing Down the Dragon, which is cheap because he's just a rando blogger right now, but he'll be famous in the future, mark my words.

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>>10563911
Is there anything more patrician than covers with no text on them?

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>>10569843
only books with no cover art at all

>> No.10569932

>>10568729
LONDON

>> No.10569935

So why did Wildbow end up using the names Khonsu and Khepri

Wouldn’t Chronos and Beelzebub have made more sense?

>> No.10569941

>>10569843
Spines with no text>>>>>>>>>>>>>>covers with no text>>>>>>>>>>>>>>books without any cover art a tall but words on the inside pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books with cover art, but no words at all on any of the inside pages >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books with no cover art or words on the inside pages

Nigga, I'm not gonna write the fuckin story myself, am I right, guys?

>> No.10569957

>>10569645
>Tom Simon's criticism is also very good, especially in Writing Down the Dragon, which is cheap because he's just a rando blogger right now, but he'll be famous in the future, mark my words.
He's really that good? I'd be interested to read some decent fantasy theory

>> No.10569963

>>10569932
lesbians get out

>> No.10569995

>>10569957
At least I think so. Maybe I'm just a fanboy.
Here's his argument for Gormenghast being fantasy:
https://bondwine.com/2017/12/14/gormenghast-and-the-great-tradition/
A discussion of what makes fans go wild over some but not all fantasy books:
https://bondwine.com/2015/10/16/legosity/
His answer to Le Guin's Language of the Night essay "Why Are Americans Afraid Of Dragons:"
https://bondwine.com/2013/02/22/why-are-dragons-afraid-of-americans/
Hopefully you'll find him up to snuff.

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>>10569995
Thank you, I appreciate this. Have a wallpaper

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>>10569995
>Why Are Americans Afraid Of Dragons
>why-are-dragons-afraid-of-americans

>> No.10570037

Which PKD books deal with religion? I've already read Valis, Androids, Ubik, Scanner Darkly, Three Stigmata, and Flow My Tears

>> No.10570039

>>10563911
Damn, the top right cover looks good.

Seems like it's Best served cold, which is set in the First Law world. Can it be read standalone?

>> No.10570066

>>10570029
Yes, the title of Simon's essay is "Why Are Dragons Afraid Of Americans," in response to Le Guin's "Why Are Americans Afraid Of Dragons."

>>10570037
All of them

>> No.10570303

I'm afraid of Americans, I'm afraid of the world.

>> No.10570759

>>10567924
I recently read a Bester collection and in the story intros he mentioned having to add extra junk because publishers didn't like his endings. Perhaps something like that?

>> No.10571443

Hey, noob here, wanted your recommendations for a good sci-fi novel:

So far I have read and liked:

-Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (All 5 books)
-Stranger in a Strange Land
-Lord of the Rings

I plan on reading:

-Hyperion
-Canticle for Leibowitz

>> No.10571452

>>10571443
BOOK

>> No.10571454

>>10571443
Flow My Tears
2001 saga

>> No.10571463

>>10571452
OF

>> No.10571472

>>10571463
THE

>> No.10571475

>>10571472
DEAD

>> No.10571499

>>10571475

JEWS

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>>10568790

>> No.10571542

>>10569560
Try these >>10564227 . I thought they were shit but couldn't puf them down.
Also try trysmoon saga.

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>>10571443
>wanted your recommendations for a good sci-fi novel
>I have read [...] LotR

>> No.10571610

>>10571601
It is a sci-fi/fantasy general, I thought that might help net me a few good suggestions

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just read this, classified as "thriller" but just as easily a sci-fi.

big African wasps threaten the world/10

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>>10568809
>It's not as insane as Three Body
idk, It gets pretty fucking insane. I would consider the entire universe getting compressed from a higher-dimensional state into lesser states through eons of warfare pretty fucking insane

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>>10568726

>> No.10571775

>>10569995
Holy shit Le Guin's essay is a fucking mess.

>> No.10571812

>>10571775
The quality of Language of the Night is pretty variable.

>> No.10571834

>>10571443
>Hyperion
This was pointed out in the last thread, but: buy Fall of Hyperion, it's not even a sequel so much as the second half of one book. And don't read the Endymion novels.

Canticle for Leibowitz is a great choice

Other recs:

The Golden Age
The Stars My Destination
The Book of the New Sun
The Martian Chronicles

>> No.10571905

>>10570066
Well then which are the most religious

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Just finished reading Childhoods end. It was a good book, I thoroughly enjoyed it!

>> No.10572220

>>10571643
I bet his penis is bigger than mine.

>> No.10572228

>>10571953
Why did my penis twitch? Am I a necrophile?

>> No.10572254

>>10572228
That's just paint on a canvas

>> No.10572376

>>10571953
It was a fun journey. The ending was kinda 'wat' but oh well. Don't watch the miniseries

>> No.10572415

Are cheap e-readers a thing? Is it easy to find a Used one in acceptable condition? What other e-readers are worthwhile anyhow besides Kindles?

>> No.10572545

>start reading this
>chapter about a guy whose wife cheats on him literally called 'The Cuckold King'
what am I reading

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>>10572545
am retard, forgot pic

>> No.10572617

>>10572228
Your dick moved because you're not a faggot; congratulations.

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>>10572545
>'the cuckold king'
top kek. this cant be true

>> No.10572913

>>10572228
it's a painting. From one of my favorite artists, Serge Marshennikov. She's not dead.

>> No.10573071

>>10572545
>>10572552
A meme, from the looks of it.

>> No.10573086

Just finished The Man Who Japed by P K Dick

Ending was weak. Also read Vulcans Hammer much better

>> No.10573096

>>10571443
My personal favourite sci-fi is Forever War by Joe Haldeman. Read the whole series

>> No.10573100

>>10571834
>The Stars My Destination

This. Most tasteful rape in literatue

>> No.10573112

>>10563292
Fapped many times to high elf handjob scene

>> No.10573525

Anymore litrpg books that doesn't use the litrpg "stats screen"? Books like >>10564227

>> No.10573570

Hello, /sffg/. I need recommendations. The problem is I have a hard time articulating what I'm looking for.

>a fantasy work that features a number of fascinating fauna and non-human races. (like Bas Lag, The Witcher saga, Malazan)
>a fantasy work that focuses on an order or school of some kind (like The Witcher saga, Kingsguard in ASOAIF, BotNS, rangers in LotR)
>excellent worldbuilding (like LotR, The Witche saga, Malazan)

Not being able to get into a fantasy series for a long time has been gnawing at me. Please help.

>> No.10573587

>>10573570
If an army counts for the second one, there's The Dragon's Path, though I don't think it's particularly well-written.

>> No.10573675

>not particularly bothered by politics in books
>author suddenly mentions sweden being overtaken by muslims and big strong americans "the only people who are willing to die for the greater good" saving them

lol that's a bit much even for me bud

>> No.10573680

>>10573587
you sure you're thinking of the right book, my man? The Dragon's Path is like half economics and half Game of Thrones-lite politics.

>> No.10573692

>>10573675
>“You’re American, right?” she asked.
>“Canadian, eh?”
>“When he was a boy, my grandfather lived in Stockholm. He and his family were there when the Muslims declared the city theirs. They were poor, and didn’t have the money to pay the non-believer tax and wouldn’t convert to Islam, so the Muslims enslaved them all. They murdered my great-grandfather. My great-grandmother didn’t last much longer.
>“He was in rags, starving, when the crusade came. He told me stories about the American soldiers, how they looked like knights in their body armor and the red Templar cross on their shoulder. They killed the Islamists, sent the rest of them back to their sand dunes in the Middle East. They saved him, fed him and showed him what strength really is. And they were all volunteers, every last one of them.
>“No one had to order an American to save the oppressed. It’s part of their nature to see others live free, even at the sacrifice of their own lives.
>Once the Germans finally followed the Americans’ lead, and the rest of Europe got its act together, we had the Atlantic Union.
>Separate nations and peoples who would fight for each other. The Chinese didn’t go to war to save Mongolia when the Russians conquered it.”
>“Huh,” Standish said. “I never thought about it that way. Save those who’ll sacrifice for the whole.”
>“Oye!” Crewman MacDougal shouted through the IR. He took great loping strides toward them over the hull. “Why’re you and that Jessie slacking?”
>“Shut ye geggie before I snip yer baws off,” Torni said, flashing a “V” with her fingers at MacDougal.
>“Give ’em to the jobby jabber, why don’t you? >Get that done and move to the next rack before the torps get here. We ain’t got til morn.” MacDougal bounded past them, sending another invective to the next work crew.
>“What was that?” Standish asked.
>“He said we’re moving too slow.”
>“How do you know what he was saying?”
>“We used to date,” she said.
Standish fumbled his welder and caught hold of it before it could tumble into space.


This might be the worst single passage of writing I've ever read, someone ITT actually recommended this lol

>> No.10573881

>>10573675
did a hard drop on myke cole after ignoring one of the bad books charts and hitting a "europe is now the ISLAMIC CALIPHATE!!!" thing like 30 pages into the book.

in retrospect I should have expected that from somebody named "myke" who joined the coast guard and then volunteered to go kill people in Iraq.

>> No.10573890

>>10573692
(laughing nervously) what the fuck?

>> No.10573900

>>10573890
>(laughing nervously)

>> No.10573904

>>10573900
I couldn't post the fucking image, so I had to improvise

>> No.10573906

>>10573904
(laughing nervously)

>> No.10573908

>>10573881
This is Ember War and lol guess what, the author's a fucking ex-military ex-west point guy

With Cole I got bored at the end of the first shadow ops book when the mc started acting like a retard in order to make the plot happen.

>> No.10573917

>>10572415
Yes, I have purchased 4 e-readers at thrift stores for around 10 to 20 dollars american each. The batteries seem to hold up pretty well. I'm guessing that the low wattage requirements put light wear on the lithiums. I very much prefer these older models as they generally have hardware buttons and lack reading lights.

My readers:
Kindle 3 Keyboard
Kinda big due to the full keyboard and page turn buttons. Also has text-to-speech built in. Fun to play with, but a bit large for a workhorse reader.

Kindle 4
Same screen as the 3 but has unnecessary features removed, only page turn buttons remain. Also has ads, but has never been connected to wifi, so they are just placeholders asking you to connect wifi. A solid reader that I've read many titles on.

Nook Simple Touch
Same screen as the kindles. Slightly bulkier. Rubberized coating and page turn buttons. IR touch screen. This will probably be my new favorite as it grips a bit better, has a microSD slot, and lacks the odiousness of kindle (ads an such). It also has (had) a community that created numerous applications and mods for it. Caveat, you have to use the touch screen for unlocking and menus (there's probably a fix out there).

Literati
Purchased on a whim as it doesn't have an e-ink screen. Weirdly elongated. I have no interest in trying to read on it cause the screen is garbage.

Basically, if the screen is e-ink, you've probably found a worthwhile reader. Use Calibre to organize your ebooks and facilitate conversion the different formats your reader may require. Don't expect to read PDFs. Some readers can attempt it with compromises, but the results are rarely comfortable.

>> No.10573925

>>10573906
>(laughing nervously)

>> No.10573936

>>10573917
heard e-ink readers are quite nice. friend of mine swears the battery lasts weeks on a single charge. are they worth getting?

>> No.10573966

>>10573587
>suggesting Daniel Abraham

>> No.10573969

>>10573936
yes, do it. worth every penny

>> No.10573975

>>10573936
my kindle lasts ages with the light on, same for the kobos I had before

With no backlight they last forever, like realistically you won't need to charge until you want to plug it in anyway to get a new book

>> No.10573984

>>10573908
>west point

Okay yeah that's not much of a surprise. Never served myself but I'm from a military family and West Pointers seem universally reviled because they're arrogant assholes, typically from rich families, and are in the military to play politics. Also they are apparently prone to claiming that their time at school having pillow fights (temporarily banned in 2015 after 30 recruits were hospitalized) means they were in the actual army for four years.

>>10573917
Part of the long battery life is the screen. It uses a physical process, each pixel is, IIRC a small sphere with two layers of pigment (white and black) that adjusts based on electrical charge. So the only time it draws electricity is when it's updating the screen with a page turn or item selection.

>> No.10574031

>>10573881
>after ignoring one of the bad books charts
>he thought it was a meme to ignore these books.
hope you learnt your lesson desu
>4chan doesn't allow me to upload images

>> No.10574062

>>10573936
Well yeah, that was the thrust of my post really. I'm actually a hardcore physical books fan, but the e-ink readers are a nice supplement to my collection.

>> No.10574081

>>10573984
>So the only time it draws electricity is when it's updating the screen with a page turn or item selection.
The OS still does some housekeeping in the background (like polling the buttons, I doubt that's on an interrupt), but yes, the screen would otherwise be the biggest power draw (don't use the wifi). My batteries usually only die if I forget about the reader for a month or so without powering it completely down. Don't generally have to worry about it during periods of heavy reading.

>> No.10574083

Butchered adaption of The Iron Dragon's Daughter when?
At least we will probably get Kate Bush as ost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp43OdtAAkM

>> No.10574090

>>10574031
Considering people on here, I had figured it was the inverse of one of those "good book chart is full of shit" trolls.

>> No.10574095

>>10573984
lmao I'm a West Pointer, your impression is hilarious. Not inaccurate in its own way, I suppose

>> No.10574800

ded thread

>> No.10574811

>>10573570
Red Rising.

>>10574800
4chan's getting rocked right now.

>> No.10574817

>>10574811
>4chan's getting rocked right now.
In what way?

>> No.10574820

How's Jeff Vandermeer?

>> No.10574821

>>10574817
I'm not sure, but try posting an image.

>> No.10574823

>>10574817
can't post images, frequently can't post at all

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>>10574823
It's a text board now, welcome to 2004.
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>> No.10574832

is hiroshimoot up to new slit eye tricks?

>> No.10574835

>>10574830
desu?

>> No.10574866

>>10573570
>fascinating fauna
Sandersons Stormlight Archives series
>non-human races
Martha Wells Raksura series
>excellent worldbuilding
Sherwood Smiths Inda series

>> No.10574874

Hi /sffg/.
Reccomend me stuff.
I typically don't read a lot of sci-fi (don't know why, I love sci-fi) but I want to start doing it more. I love Lovecraft (the themes and ideas more than his actual writing) and the original aliens vs predator book series. My favorite movies/shows are Alien, The Thing, Blade Runner, Twin Peaks, Cowboy Bebop and The Void.

>> No.10574950

>>10574874
book of the new sun

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>> No.10574988

I just finished the Cabal series by Jonathan Howard and really enjoyed it- any recommendations?

>> No.10574989

>>10574958
Seconding this cancer, it's a masterpiece. If it seems like it's rambling on that's kind of the point but there is a direction to the story.

>> No.10574994

>>10574988
The Savage Tales of Solomon Kane

>> No.10575131

>>10568709
Good fella.
Prepare yourself to walk away on a non-ending, though.

>> No.10575145

>>10569213
>The books are not bad, because I believe there will be an unexpected turn of event there, at the very end

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>>10571499

>> No.10575151

>>10572913
>google Serge Marshennikov
>f...fugg :-DD

>> No.10575169

>>10574989
Wow, thanks! Can you tell me more about this "Shadow of the Torturer" book? First time I've seen it recced here.

>> No.10575265

>>10568175

what a midden-heap of unrepentant stinkers

>> No.10575289

>>10574874

Since you loved blade runner you must read do androids dream of electric sheep

>> No.10575336

>>10574958
Holy kek that is a golden post
Wish I was recc'd botsn in this fashion

>> No.10575342

>>10574820
overrated, like a shitty american roadside picnic with none of the signature russian depression

>> No.10575373

Anyone know of any decent books either about colonisation (of any type fantasy or sci fi or historicalfiction) or detectives/police


>>10574874

>Alien

There are plenty of Alien novels, never read any so ive no idea if they're any good

>> No.10575451

>>10575373
>colonisation
Fifth Head of Cerberus is about colonization.

>> No.10575462

Some more books like The Dragons Of Babel?

I know about Iron Dragons daughter

>> No.10575483

>>10575169
BOOK OF THE NEW SUN

>> No.10575555

>>10563947
>Arts of Dark and Light
Does anything happen in this? I dropped halfway because it was pretty boring.

>> No.10575812

>>10573675
in reality its been the Americans pushing this open borders and if anything they would be bombing Europe for booting out the muslims

>> No.10575813

>>10575555
You should stick to Harry Potter then, scrub.

>> No.10575818

>>10573675
>author suddenly mentions sweden being overtaken by muslims
This is true though.

>> No.10575828

>>10575813
So... no? Glad I got out early.

>> No.10575830

>>10575818
t. 50% America talking about other countries getting taken over

>> No.10575891

>>10575818
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>> No.10575893

>>10573692

>No one had to order an American to save the oppressed. It’s part of their nature to see others live free, even at the sacrifice of their own lives

*posts le merchant man*

>> No.10575954
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>>10575151
oh yeah

>> No.10576010

>>10575954
I like this aesthetic a lot.

>> No.10576071

>>10571834
>The Stars My Destination
What a fucking adventure that one is.
10/10 wish I could read it for the first time again.

>> No.10576090

>>10576071
might like this related song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv6bw10es2c

>> No.10576105

>>10576010
he's painfully good. I've got this one hanging over my bed, along with phil hale and soey milk

>> No.10576206

>>10575830
>>10575891
>t. yuromohammed

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10576358

>>10575830
>49% yuropoor

>> No.10576558

dont die /sFFg/!

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