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Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:02:29 2018 No.10560976 [Reply] [Original]

Have you even read Locke, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:03:35 2018 No.10560982 >>10560976 INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:14:05 2018 No.10561030 yeah and he was annoying and would never shut up about """god given rights"""

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:17:50 2018 No.10561055 e-celeb posters should be hanged, drawn, and quartered.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:19:42 2018 No.10561066 >>10561055 I don't know what you mean. This thread is solely about Locke.

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 18:26:40 2018 No.10561105

yes, and it was the most retarded thing ive read
if locke lived today he'd have blue hair

https://reactionaryfuture.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/summary-of-locke-and-filmer-in-as-short-a-way-as-possible/
https://reactionaryfuture.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/locke-versus-filmer-or-why-you-are-all-communists/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:16:46 2018 No.10562502 Locke was a social democrat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:21:16 2018 No.10562525 >>10562502 >durrrr 18th century politics are comparable to 21st century politics (18th century 'social democrats' are comparable to 21st century social democrats whom I so despise) hurrrr

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:31:00 2018 No.10562557 >>10561105 x thinker is bad because he is not in alignment with my worldview, also under a definition of communist which could conceivably include everything under the sun he is a communist, x btfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:32:56 2018 No.10562562 >>10562525 nice argument

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:33:18 2018 No.10562563 I have. Locke and all other liberal 'philosophers' should never be listened to. I would sooner take seriously a retarded toddler's beast-like mumblings. >>10561105 >reactionary kys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:34:06 2018 No.10562568 File: 24 KB, 320x320, 5796885-loki+ragnarok.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He wrote something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:34:13 2018 No.10562569 >>10560976 Locke believed that a society without God would be anarchy. How right he was...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:34:13 2018 No.10562570 >>10562563 >I have. Locke and all other liberal 'philosophers' should never be listened to. I would sooner take seriously a retarded toddler's beast-like mumblings. why?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:34:15 2018 No.10562571 >>10562563 Have you read Das Kapital?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:34:32 2018 No.10562574 >>10562557 So long as government owns everything and gives out stuff "for free", moves around millions of people arbitrarily, it's communism.

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:44:00 2018 No.10562617

>>10562570
Extremely false premises and handwavey arguments cascading into nonsense about human nachur and best possible worlds and all that. It's not even philosophy, it's propaganda. It's about as critical as a 12-year-old claiming he is a 'free thinker' because he doesn't want to go to church on Sundays.
Hume is no joke, the only good philosopher of that actual Dark Age. Kant, Spinoza, all that crap is a fucking joke in retrospect. At least Hume is ironic.
They held back philosophy for over 100 years, and that's only the god damn beginning.
>>10562571
No, I'm not interested in economics, at least not capitalist economics. Somebody else can read that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:45:43 2018 No.10562625 >>10562617 >No, I'm not interested in economics, at least not capitalist economics. Somebody else can read that. Fascists everyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:49:20 2018 No.10562636 >>10562625 I'm not a fascist, I'm a primitivist, where fascism goes to die. Please take your 'muh rennysonce' memes back to plebbit. I'm only interested in my area, not perpetuation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:50:33 2018 No.10562641 >>10562636 >primitivist, Lmao even more autistic than fascism. I'm honestly curious. Why is primitivism a good idea and why are you on a computer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:52:46 2018 No.10562647 >>10562641 DAE IPHONE XDDDDD kys you fucking mongoloid

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:53:33 2018 No.10562651 >>10562647 Why are you making a reddit strawman while defending a reddit opinion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:54:59 2018 No.10562658 >>10562651 DAE MEMEMEMS XDDDDDDDDD XXDXDXDXDXDSGAEHAEAERETH

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:55:23 2018 No.10562659 welcome to /teen/ - underage general

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:55:28 2018 No.10562660 >>10562658 Lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:55:31 2018 No.10562661 File: 47 KB, 562x395, 1464627232709.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10562636 >unironically being a primitivist shouldn't you be mailing explosives to fat, sys admin mouthbreathers?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:55:55 2018 No.10562664 >>10562658 wow, so this is the power of primitivism

Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:57:59 2018 No.10562669

>>10562641
>I'm honestly curious. Why is primitivism a good idea and why are you on a computer?
That guy's a fucking retard but your argument is just as dumb. Primitivism explicitly seeks to destroy all society and restart.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergo_decedo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:58:55 2018 No.10562675 >>10562664 lmao

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 19 23:59:16 2018 No.10562677 >>10562669 DAE EVERYBODY I DISLIKE IS LE RETARD?!1?1??1?1?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 00:00:00 2018 No.10562680 >>10562677 Everybody with dumbass ideologies is a retard. Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 00:02:46 2018 No.10562691 >>10562680 DAE IPHONE XDDDDDDDD LE DUMB LE ME LE LIBERAL XDDDDDDDDD GAY MARRIAGE CAKE NET NEUTRALITY TRUMP

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 00:05:18 2018 No.10562698 >>10562691 please, go on

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 00:07:05 2018 No.10562706 File: 24 KB, 600x484, 1487376609629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10562691 AAABLOOBLOO PARKI PARK PARK DING DONG DING DONG KZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT 77777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777#!#!#!#!#!#!#!##!#!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 02:26:56 2018 No.10563132 >>10560976 >Have you even read Locke, /lit/? Yea, and I read that part (big part) where Leibniz shat all over him so bad, he had to die before Leibniz got a chance to fight him irl

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 02:54:53 2018 No.10563195 File: 2.02 MB, 4128x2322, 20171125_152156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10563132 >Locke getting BTFO'd What book / text did Lebiniz do this with

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 03:13:24 2018 No.10563246 i wrote a short essay on locke for an entry level phil course a year or two ago. anyone wanna read it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 03:43:16 2018 No.10563326 >>10563246 Sure bruv

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 06:06:48 2018 No.10563638

>>10562557
i didnt say he is bad because he doesnt align with my worldview, in fact i was a liberal until i realised most of my beliefs were based on theological bullshit
i'll copypaste something funny i found on wiki:

The First Treatise is focused on the refutation of Sir Robert Filmer, in particular his Patriarcha, which argued that civil society was founded on a divinely sanctioned patriarchalism. Locke proceeds through Filmer's arguments, ***CONTESTING HIS PROOFS FROM SCRIPTURE AND RIDICULING THEM AS SENSELESS***, until concluding that no government can be justified by an appeal to the divine right of kings.

The Second Treatise outlines a theory of civil society. Locke begins by describing the state of nature, a picture much more stable than Thomas Hobbes' state of "war of every man against every man," and argues that all men are created equal IN ***THE STATE OF NATURE BY GOD***.

so it seems that it is YOU that thinks anyone not belonging to your ideology is a /pol/ simpleton. fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 06:32:58 2018 No.10563703 File: 70 KB, 604x603, 1506112424501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10562664 I can't tell if I love or hate this board

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 12:22:45 2018 No.10564548 >>10563638 That isn't theology, that's hand-wavery. Every liberal does it, it's in their HUYMEN NACHURRR. Enlightenment 'philosophy' is a supermassive black hole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 12:26:53 2018 No.10564566 File: 36 KB, 576x720, Ludwig von Mises 576x720.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >*single handedly destroys socialism "heh, nothin personal kids"

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 12:31:28 2018 No.10564583

>>10564548
invisible hand and other magical notions should spoil it for everyone. blank slate and the rest of the liberal toolbox used to be under the domain of medieval theology until some elites realised how useful they are and took them into secular area.
liberalism has its basis in the bible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 18:11:32 2018 No.10565963 bump for quality

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 18:27:15 2018 No.10566032

>>10562574
this is a strange definition.
First of all, I assume that by "for free" you mean free of charge, and that by putting it within quotation marks you are pointing out how things that are free of charge actually requires resources to produce, just like everything else. If this is correct, it is a kinda weird thing to point out, as it is both a common known fact and not contradictory to the general understanding of the word "free".
And why would you choose to include the second criterion? Would, according to you, a nation where the government owned everything and handed out commodities free of charge while respecting every inhabitants right to reside wherever he or she wants to within the nation be something different than communism?
Also, while I am not the expert on the subject, many of the major forced population transfers in the USSR seems to me not to be arbitrary at all, while perhaps unnecessary. It is really only the kulaks that stand out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 19:17:37 2018 No.10566273 >>10564583 Liberals are deists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 19:34:29 2018 No.10566345 >>10562571 It's shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 19:40:18 2018 No.10566375 >>10564566 >Thinks socialism is soviet central planning

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 20 19:47:20 2018 No.10566404 ban everyone in this thread

Anonymous Sat Jan 20 21:09:41 2018 No.10566715

>>10560976
No. I will not have my mind be tainted by perfidious anglo ideology.
I keep in touch with the internet and the mainstream, i.e. the culmination of anglodom, in order to remind myself of this. It is important to remain vigilant, otherwise you might become tempted to read a certain Willhelm von Schüttelspeer, who is apparently some great playwright, or Jeremias von Bogenheim, a most perfidious sophist from what I have gathered.
At times the Anglo might entice you with his 'common law' and so on, but I will not be fooled.

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