what is time?

[Anonymous No.10550444]

stemfags need not apply

[Anonymous No.10550455]

Being is Time

[Anonymous No.10550463]

>>10550444
> stemfags need not apply
Time is the direction of entropy.

[Anonymous No.10550465]

>>10550444
Time is 12:26 ET

[Anonymous No.10550467]

>>10550444
Time is money.

[Anonymous No.10550474]

>>10550465
heh

[Anonymous No.10550484]

>>10550444
Time to die

[Anonymous No.10550494]

Time to get up off your fat, lazy ass and make something of yourself, Jonathan.

[Anonymous No.10550506]

The product of distance and the inverse of speed.

t. STEMfag.

[Anonymous No.10550519]

>>10550506
That's a measure of time, not time itself.

[Anonymous No.10550529]

Some mental gymnastics we hold onto make sense of our wkrkmmm

[Anonymous No.10550530]

Things have the tendency to change, and time is how humans measure the changes. It also explains why gravity affects time.

[Anonymous No.10550536]

>>10550444
Time is Being's manifestation of its possibilities as dualised actualities.

[Anonymous No.10550545]

>>10550530
> gravity affects time
It doesn't.

[Anonymous No.10550614]

>>10550545
Go to bed, Newton

[Anonymous No.10550623]

>>10550444
time is the fabric of life

[Anonymous No.10550642]

>>10550545
Are you goibg to be muhvperceptiob faggot

[Anonymous No.10550647]

>>10550530
>>10550545
More like lots of things are heavier processes to run. It's called lag.

[Anonymous No.10550747]

Follow me here.

lines are made with units of dots, (100 dots in a row)


shapes are made with units of lines, (4 lines in a square)

3 dimensional objects (space) are made out of units of shapes (100 squares in a stack)

Time, is made up of units of space (the room you're in over an interval of 100 seconds)


Could be wrong though

[Anonymous No.10550755]

>>10550444
See Eva Brann's book entitled just that. It's great.

[Anonymous No.10550758]

>>10550444

Permeable

[Anonymous No.10550761]

>>10550545
>It doesn't

[Anonymous No.10550774]

Time is a symbol for the experienced passage of moments. A moment, as synthesized by Jakob Von Uxekull in A Foray Into the World of Animals. Defined as the quantum the passage of time can be reduced to. They are a result of perception that has been recognized and granered attention. To understand this and how the moments relate into the percieved and recognized flow of time, you need to learn about this
Naturalizing semiotics: The triadic sign of Charles Sanders Peirce as a systems property
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610715001261

full issue, Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics, and Phenomenological Philosophy
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00796107/119

http://www.peirce.org/writings/p32.html
I started a thread related to this earlier.
In summation, time is a phenomenon that emerges from biosemiotics that produce the perception and recognition of the passage of physical time as it can be observed. Furthermore, time is also a linguistic sign that symbolizes this idea, this is the point where I start to get pedantic.

[Anonymous No.10550776]

we are never in touch with the present, because neural information-processing itself takes time.

signals take time to travel from your sensory organs along the multiple neuronal pathways in your body to your brain, and they take time to be processed and transformed into objects, scenes, and complex situations.

strictly speaking, what you are experiencing as the present moment is actually the past.

consciousness is inwardness in time.
conciousness makes the world present for you by creating a new space in your mind—the space of temporal internality.

[Anonymous No.10550783]

>>10550642
>>10550614
>>10550761

Here's a mind-bender.

All things travel through spacetime at the speed of light. If an object has very little overall speed through x, y, and/or z, then it travels through the remainder (time) at close to the speed of light. The faster that object is through x, y, and/or z, then the speed through time is decreased to sum overall (x, y, z, and time) to light-speed; this leads to time dilation, from an external reference frame.

According to Einstein, gravity is simply acceleration through a warped spacetime, and so gravity does not affect time per se: it affects the shortest path that light, or any information whatsoever, must take in order to get anywhere. An increased distance necessarily warps the externally perceived lengthening or shortening of time.

[Anonymous No.10550792]

>>10550783
Then where does light go when it's pulled in to a black hole?

[Anonymous No.10550798]

>>10550792
Frankly, no one knows. No one will ever know.

[Anonymous No.10550802]

>>10550776
>we are never in touch with the present

If I think about it too much I realize my conscious can't examine itself in the moment, and observing my own thinking process as it happens is watching myself think one second in the past. It's as though I'm in a state of falling backwards throughout the span of my life looking back at the trail I've left.

[Anonymous No.10550803]

>>10550798
SCIENCE BTFO

[Anonymous No.10550810]

baby don't hurt me

[Anonymous No.10550813]

>>10550803
Science has never proclaimed to know 'everything'; it's simply the best guess we have at the moment.

Science even discovered something which science can't explain - a blackhole.

[Anonymous No.10550817]

a horizon

[Anonymous No.10550823]

>>10550802
>looking back at the trail I've left.
Very perceptive anon, this is what I was trying to explain here >>10550774 and why I linked what I linked. A graphical representation of that trail can be found in naturalizing semiotics. Pic related, G

[Anonymous No.10550859]

time wounds all heals

[Anonymous No.10550907]

>>10550803
Not being able to explain everything is why science exists.

The best examples I can think of in physics are how light can't escape a black hole, why light is a universal speed limit, and how can matter exist as a superposition of two states.

The last one is pretty interesting, it basically jump-started quantum mechanics. Look up "double slit experiment" on youtube, or shrodinger's cat.

[Anonymous No.10550929]

>>10550823
>>10550802
>watching myself think one second in the past

I've never seen a theoretical application of this, though it's kind of trippy to think about it when you listen to music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wycjnCCgUes

[Anonymous No.10551568]

>>10550907
What are good science books about modern physics?

I liked the illustrated (tfw braiblet) Hawkibgs book A brief history of time.

Outside that ive relied on wikip

[Anonymous No.10551632]

>>10551568
Anything by Michio Kaku or Neil Degrasse Tyson would be where I would start.

[Anonymous No.10551670]

>>10551632
>Neil Degrasse Tyson
ha

[Anonymous No.10551719]

>>10550444
Everything.

[Anonymous No.10551751]

>>10550444
That’s just wrong, in fact the better the scientists the more likely it is for him to have a good grasp of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10551821]

>>10550929
If you have the time, read the following.

This could really change the way you see the world.
Start the song, as you listen to it.

Imagine yourself on a moving sidewalk, like the ones at the airport.


You're facing the wrong way, and watching everything move slowly away from you.


Think of listening to the song like being a painter, your mind creating the sounds you recognize as music from vibrations in the air, as brush strokes of audible cognition along your stream of consciousness.


You can feel yourself, as the painter, moving backwards on this treadmill, painting along the walls on both sides of you.


Watching as the passage of time melds seamlessly with the music you've been hearing,
and seeing the entirety of the masterpiece you've created slowly moving away from where you're standing.


As your body is moving forward in time, you're looking in the opposite direction.


With your back facing the future, on the cusp of now, you move backwards, watching every second going by as it's being painted with the music you're listening to, a product of your mental activity falling away, slowly, into the past.

[Anonymous No.10551826]

>>10551821
Let me know if it clicks and if what I'm saying makes sense, it's a really difficult experience to put into words.

[Anonymous No.10551886]

>>10551670
>Neil Degrasse Tyson

"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.

We are part of this universe; we are in this universe, but perhaps more important than both of those facts, is that the universe is in us.

Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not."

[Anonymous No.10551888]

>>10550774
Cool Post

[Anonymous No.10551899]

>>10551886
pop physics and retarded philosophy is not astounding anon

[Anonymous No.10551925]

Die Zeit ist überhaupt kein Seiendes. Sie ist nicht sondern zeitigt sich.

[Anonymous No.10551926]

>>10551899
*are not

Pop physics is only well known because it's accessible, and easy to understand. Which is why it's good for anyone looking for start learning something new.

[Anonymous No.10551935]

>>10551925
"Time is not a being, but temporalizes itself."

[Anonymous No.10551950]

>>10550444
It's a concept that we project onto things.

[Anonymous No.10551963]

>>10550813
>>10550907
>t. STEM NIGGERS can’t understand humor or artfulness

[Anonymous No.10552018]

>>10551926
>*are not

[Anonymous No.10552024]

>>10552018

[Anonymous No.10552028]

>>10552024
my bad
>>>/facebook/

[Anonymous No.10552075]

>>10550465
>posted at 17:26

retard

[Anonymous No.10552119]

>>10552075
>implying
What a fucking retarded. You just made an achievement! Fill my existential void with pure wrath. Shiiit. So you didn't see the "ET" or you don't KNOW a shit. Fucking shit. Fucking brainlet.

Hope this cancerous retardation post is bait. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighghghghght.

[Anonymous No.10552472]

>>10550792
It builds up on a 2d surface on the edge of the event horizon.

[Anonymous No.10552482]

Time, an abstraction to highest degree, is the tool humans use to explain the order of movements objects have taken. The human brain can only perceive the universe from 1 perspective (the mind itself), so it is futile to discover how the universe truly operates (if the universe is real at all)

[Anonymous No.10552520]

>>10550747
I think I saw Neil degrasse Tyson use this same example.

[Anonymous No.10552536]

>>10550519
Is there a difference between position and the measure of position ? Why shouldn't it also be the case of time ?

[Anonymous No.10552557]

>>10550747
Sounds good to me. I've always thought of time as a 4th dimension

[Anonymous No.10552586]

>>10550747
nah time isn't a discrete manifold like a dot, line, or plane. thats why spacetime involves cones and hyperbolas.

[Anonymous No.10552596]

>>10550444
All I know is that time is somehow related to the connection between physical existence and qualia since both evolve within it.

[Anonymous No.10552605]

>>10552482
that's a pessimistic way of looking at it. We'll never know anything but our perspective has radically changed dozens of times in the past. If enough smart autists keep smashing their heads into the boundaries eventually one of us will escape our mental prison and find a new way of looking at things.

[Anonymous No.10553651]

>>10552119

[Anonymous No.10553714]

>>10550774
weird, you're still around

[Anonymous No.10553880]

>>10552024
kys

[Anonymous No.10554007]

Without movement, there's no "time".

[Anonymous No.10554040]

>>10550444
>What is time?
Time is an illusion which only happens within the confines of the human brain. Classical physics would have us believe otherwise, but I think that is just a way to have everyone believe a set of standards.

[Anonymous No.10554120]

ITT: people who don't know what time is. you guys should try light next

[Anonymous No.10554136]

>>10550444
A linguistic construct.

You might not like but that's as close to the truth as we're going to get.

[Anonymous No.10554412]

>>10554136
there's some evidence that the brian's conceptual represntation of time is related to the metaphors we use to talk about time

[Anonymous No.10554426]

>>10554412
That's true about everything. Not just time.

[Anonymous No.10554461]

>>10554426
in some sense sure, but what i meant more was that you have can have a lot of knowledge about the world without having any linguistic abilities (like proto humans who could survive fine without having developed language), but do you have any knowledge or use for the abstract concept of time in such a scenario?d

[Anonymous No.10554473]

>>10550444
I read that as 'sternfags' and now I wonder what their opinion might be...

[Anonymous No.10554488]

>>10554473
you bean stirnfag?

[Anonymous No.10554753]

i like these discussions

[Anonymous No.10554784]

>>10552536
>French
Opinion Descarted

[Anonymous No.10554811]

>>10554136
Time exists outside of human perception, so it can't be.

[Anonymous No.10554828]

>>10550444
A semantic primitive

[Anonymous No.10554859]

>>10551821
The Maori actually view and speak of the past as forward, ahead of us, and the future as behind us.

[Anonymous No.10554864]

>>10554811
How the hell could you possible derive the idea that anything what so ever exists outside human perception? You have never experienced anything else in your life but human perception and neither has any other human.

[Anonymous No.10554873]

>>10554864
There is nothing special about human perception beyond that of other animals; and there is nothing special of perception in itslelf beyond any other physical phenomenon

[Anonymous No.10554878]

>>10554873
I said nothing about what types of perception are "special".

[Anonymous No.10554886]

>>10554784
Based

[Anonymous No.10554892]

>>10554878
How high can you count?

[Anonymous No.10554904]

>>10554864
The existence of something is not predicated on a human knowing about it.

[Anonymous No.10554906]

>>10554864
You're conflating 'experience' and 'existence'. No one said anything about experience.

[Anonymous No.10555012]

>Time is the measure of change

[Anonymous No.10555042]

>>10555012
enlighten us, for real

[Anonymous No.10555063]

>>10554461
am i retarded?

[Anonymous No.10555073]

>>10550444
Time is rythme, the backbone of all music.

[Anonymous No.10555080]

>>10555042
Distance is a measure of change

[Anonymous No.10555144]

>>10550444
>>10550465
Clever girl.

You're all fools.

Time is the constant of perception divided by the acceleration of events.

Time is your daughter turning 1 year old, and then turning 2 while experiencing half of the initial perception.

Time is mitosis, because my toes don't have sex. Except when she's 17 and she brings a boyfriend home who's actually alright, but you can't help but wonder where the last 17 years went with your little girl; now she's off sucking some random toe's cock until it's dry.

[Anonymous No.10555196]

>>10550444
>nice trips
Based on your pic I'm guessing the correct answer is "Time is the 'being towards death.'"

[Anonymous No.10555236]

>>10550444
“Time” has many meanings; it is a single word mapped to a number of discrete, but similar, concepts. Which do you refer to, here?

[Anonymous No.10555264]

>>10552075
>ET

[Anonymous No.10555270]

>>10550506
In that case you might as well call it the product of inverse acceleration and jerk.

[Anonymous No.10556420]

>>10554904
You can't discuss something you know nothing about. You wouldn't even be able to articulate in any sort of language. This is true even for hypothetical things.

[Anonymous No.10556549]

time is what clocks measure

[Anonymous No.10556598]

>>10556549
You are saying things didnt exist in time before someone created the first clock? Thats retarded, son. The first human experimented time before the clock was created, thats the reason someone invented a clock in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10556619]

Heidegger's philosophy is depressing.

[Anonymous No.10556731]

>>10550444
Bewegung im Raum

[Anonymous No.10556735]

>>10556619
n-no you

[Anonymous No.10556915]

>>10556598
Your logical deduction sucks

[Anonymous No.10556928]

>trying to understand time with spatial metaphors

[Anonymous No.10557008]

Chris Langan unironically has a truly marvelous explanation of time in his cognitive-theoretic model of the universe. Look into it if you are feeling open minded, I'm totally serious

[Anonymous No.10557017]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0fV5KF80_Q

[Anonymous No.10557221]

>>10557008
>tfw too dumb to understand CTMU

[Anonymous No.10557225]

>>10554859

ayy. Good to see a person from Aotearoa here. Can you suggest some readings please!

[Anonymous No.10558393]

>>10555264
Good film, but how’s that relevant?

[Anonymous No.10558398]

>>10557008
unironically provide physical evidence of your impossilbe iq chris
o man u can't well dang i guess i'll just have to take ur word for it

[Anonymous No.10558906]

>>10556598
No one can be this stupid

[Anonymous No.10559402]

>>10553714
What do you recognize me from?
And how do you recognize me?
I did just start to post again a few days ago to avoid unsavory weather. That's over for now. Time again to go back to doing what it is that I do when I'm not psued posting, methinks. I hope I stay gone.

[A.W. No.10559436]

>>10550444
Time is the self-externality of space, or in clearer terms: Time is the spacing of space.

>This makes time an ontological process of differentiation (becoming), the very way things come to be determinate and finite in spatial formation. Temporality is the ceaseless self-negation of space. As the constant erosion of spatial things, this erosion is nothing but the erosion of space itself. The rock disintegrates in the realization of its own temporality, but this temporality is what constitutes it in the first place, for without the temporality of space itself no determinate spatial being can be. All things in nature are destined to fall apart by their very natural existence as determinate spatial beings; thus, they are not just negated by what is external, but are within themselves already a process of spatial self-negation in their very differentiation. Absolute space disintegrates into determinate differences, and these determinate differences just as much disintegrate in an endless process of self-externalization.

>The dimensions of time do not exist in nature, for in nature time is the now as the separately subsisting differences of space. The past, present, and future are only ideally for us as subjects as representations in memory (past), or fear/hope (future). In nature the past and future of time are reduced to the now as collateral spaces, i.e. the spaces outside each other, for space is negated time. The individualities of the present—the differentiated spaces—are, however, themselves indifferent and continuous with each other as self-externality. Space actualizes itself in time, yet time actualizes itself in space. Within each we find an immanent indifference in their moments, and between them we likewise find an indifference as each merely disappears into the other through relentless self-externality forcing them into a beyond which is only a return to the continuous same.

t. Hegel according to me.

https://empyreantrail.wordpress.com/2018/01/02/philosophy-of-nature-space-dimensions-and-time/#4

[Anonymous No.10560065]

>>10550444
I
YOU
WE
ARE TIME

[Anonymous No.10560089]

>>10554859
That makes sense. You can't see behind you, but we know (to some extent) what just happened. So the future is where can't look, and the past is where we can still see.

[Anonymous No.10560140]

>>10559402
you're the biosemiotics guy
as far as i can tell you're the only one on here really vocally interested in this stuff
u had done good posts on peirce, which is rare because pierce is both unpopular and very difficult
just ordered A Foray, but i'd the any other recommendations you're willing to throw out

[Anonymous No.10560155]

>>10554784
How'd you find out ?

[Anonymous No.10560213]

>>10550444
>What are teeth?
>dentists need not apply

[Anonymous No.10560858]

>>10560213
your average stem response is this>>10550506

[Anonymous No.10560872]

>>10560858
Like that's not different than a response such as >>10555144

[Anonymous No.10560916]

>>10550530

[Anonymous No.10560919]

>>10550761
Literally name one (1; ONE) example of gravity affecting time, no matter how theoretical

[Anonymous No.10560929]

>>10550536
>Only answer relevant to the OP as a whole gets ignored

Fuck this board

[Anonymous No.10560931]

>>10560919
Event Horizon.

[Anonymous No.10560935]

>>10550802
LOOKING BACK


OVER MY SHOULDER

[Anonymous No.10560939]

>>10560929
It's pseud.

Assumes duality. Assumes the position of the observer.

[Anonymous No.10560941]

>>10560931
Elaborate. Not kidding, I'm an actual brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10560975]

>>10560941
Well shit, I'm essentially parroting the claim, but I'm pretty sure the event horizon is where time breaks down. The gravity of a black hole is so immense that it affects time (?) I think. Sorry, haven't read about event horizons in like 8 years.

[Anonymous No.10561003]

Time is just physical change

Heres the official definition of a second, according to Wikipedia:

‘ The SI definition of second is "the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom" ‘

A specific set of physical circumstances in which a particular atom changes

Time is forms changing endlessly in infinite space

Also scientists will argue for hundreds of years saying shit like

>NO THERE ARE 31 DIMENSIONS
>NUH UH. [insert bullshit prediction] SAYS THERE WILL BE 789 DIMENSIONS

dumb ass scientists still searching for the Truth. Like Einstein thinking there is a single concrete underlying framework that guides all particles to their destiny

Most scientists are deathly afraid of the Quantum implication, namely determinism is dead

[Anonymous No.10561226]

Who the fuck cares?

You think Kant or Heidegger look into as to what time is as a thing in itself existing? Philosophy looks at time as a mode of being, we understand time by being in a temporal order to something. Philosophy cound't give two shits about relativity theory, measurements or dimensions outside an laready pre-existing temporal order.

[Anonymous No.10562367]

>>10550747

Derrida blows the fuck out of this example

[Anonymous No.10562382]

>>10550444
>stemfags need not apply
Top brain/lit/