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Anonymous Tue Jan 16 20:24:10 2018 No.10547494 [Reply] [Original]

Is the moderate position always the best position?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 20:25:10 2018 No.10547500 >>10547494 Why would it be?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 20:27:28 2018 No.10547512 >>10547494 Moderation is just how dumb people hedge their bets

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:43:59 2018 No.10547873 Not always.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:46:09 2018 No.10547886 >>10547512 this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:50:33 2018 No.10547919 >>10547494 not under extreme circumstances, thats just asking for people to completely undermine you it is the safest tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:52:30 2018 No.10547933 No. Political moderates are the absolute worst.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:53:11 2018 No.10547938 >>10547494 Sometimes but not always. Saying it is always wouldn't be moderate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 21:53:28 2018 No.10547940 Usually

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 16 22:01:58 2018 No.10547984 >>10547494 I dunno man. Throwing out "always" is pretty extreme

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:23:20 2018 No.10549615 >>10547494 No

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:24:10 2018 No.10549617 >>10547494 If you have no convictions I imagine it would be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:28:44 2018 No.10549625 report non-literature threads https://sys.4chan.org/lit/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=10547494

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:32:39 2018 No.10549632
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No. If you're not sure whether to get chemo therapy the answer is not to get a little. A lot of problems require full commitment once you acknowledge them.

It's like these cunts who pay lip service to climate change and green politics but think getting a Prius and separating their plastic garbage is enough of a contribution to fixing the problem and scoff at the deniers but also scoff at people actually committed to solving the problem.

Moderate is generally just a euphemism for lacking conviction and being a passive cunt. Moderates should be lined up and shot desu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 07:35:45 2018 No.10549637 >Drinking bleach is beneficial >Drinking bleach is not beneficial >Drinking bleach is a little bit beneficial

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:07:54 2018 No.10549714 Depends on what is considered moderate in your country.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:10:38 2018 No.10549720 File: 37 KB, 329x499, aristotle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10547494 Yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:13:31 2018 No.10549734 >>10549720 I clicked this thread because I knew some faggot would be in here misunderstanding Aristotle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:14:16 2018 No.10549736 >>10549734 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:48:03 2018 No.10549798 >>10547494 No. This statement itself for example is not moderate at all. However I do consider myself a moderate, and I identify nicely in the "In medio stat virtus" principle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:52:33 2018 No.10549802 >>10549632 Cherrypicking and strawmen arguments are really the corruption of modern debates. This is not how an actual "centrist" thinks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 08:58:55 2018 No.10549808 >>10549632 a centrist isnt a moderate

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:03:56 2018 No.10549820

That approach wouldn't work for a variety of situations. One side could always move more and more extreme to make their goals seem like the center. Example:
Person one: all abortion is bad. No one should be aborted.
Person two: all abortion is good. Everyone should be aborted.
Centrist: both sides make good points. All women should be aborted. Yay, I resolved conflict.

That's a dumb example, but if someone decides to be in the middle, them the debaters just need to change the goal posts of the argument. Taking the "center" is only slightly better than being uninformed, because the center is completely subject to change

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:08:42 2018 No.10549831 File: 22 KB, 480x360, dolf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10549808 true, there are also Radical Centrists

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:17:30 2018 No.10549854

>>10549632
>>10549637
>>10549820
Why does everyone seem to confuse "moderatism" with centrism, and using the middle ground fallacy to state their arguments? That's just superficial.

Being moderate doesn't mean to always marry the opinion in the exact middle. For example, I can value the importance of free market in a healthy economic system, without dismissing the role of a good welfare and its social institutions. That's a moderate position.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:37:21 2018 No.10549891 File: 56 KB, 645x773, brainlet+1491287171858.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10549854 Can I get one good welfare please

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:41:39 2018 No.10549902 >>10549632 Such an embarrassing post, and you sound so sure of yourself too

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:43:10 2018 No.10549907 >>10549891 No

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 09:46:58 2018 No.10549912 File: 127 KB, 499x499, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10547494 a moderate wouldn't be able to answer this question

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 10:20:35 2018 No.10549989 >>10549854 what you just described is economic centrism

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 11:14:23 2018 No.10550174

If you can't see the pros and cons of both sides of a debate you are a retard.
If after weighing the pros and cons you can't choose a side, you are weak.

If you are dumb and weak you stay out of the argument.
If you are dumb and strong you become an extremist.
If you are smart and weak you are a moderate/centrist.
If you are smart and strong you can wisely defend your side of the argument without being an extremist and can teleologically suspend the arguments for the other side (against your side) in order to reach your desired goal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 11:16:01 2018 No.10550185 >>10547512 or for people that understand that things have nuance

Anonymous Wed Jan 17 11:22:18 2018 No.10550200

>>10547494

No. The best range of positions is a binary range of positions including extreme conservativism and extreme liberalism, played in a tight aggressive style in accordance with game theory optimal strategy. It should be highly dependent on position, and betting should consist of pot sized bets which force the opposing player to play against your entire range for that street instead of being able to narrow it down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 11:35:32 2018 No.10550246 >>10547494 it's the easiest, not the best

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:46:00 2018 No.10550759 no, it's usually the worst.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:46:36 2018 No.10550760 >>10547494 Communist is always the best position.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:47:47 2018 No.10550763 >>10547494 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_omHQwYh8

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:48:07 2018 No.10550765 >>10550760 Oh shit I thought this was /pol/ nevermind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 13:50:41 2018 No.10550773 >>10547494 Yes. /lit/ is a /Macron/ board.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 14:50:43 2018 No.10550982 "Moderation is for cowards. Any thing worth doing is worth overdoing."

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:52:44 2018 No.10551222 >>10549637 Wouldn’t the correct response be >I’m not sure whether bleach is good or bad, so I won’t drink any until I am sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 15:57:31 2018 No.10551237 Wrong, it is always the worst.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 16:01:56 2018 No.10551264 >>10550982 The secret is to moderately be a moderate.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 19:54:20 2018 No.10552055 >>10547512 extremism is how dumb people exuberant confidence and understanding when faced with the endless uncertainties of life

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 17 19:58:57 2018 No.10552072 >>10550174 This

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 00:42:58 2018 No.10553203
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>>10547494
Maybe, but the best one there is actually being knowledgeable to both positions (or all 4 if you post Political Compass).
>Not shitposting on both Tumblr and /pol/ for shits, giggles and (you)s

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 01:04:58 2018 No.10553277 >>10552055 Why did you skip past making a true statement, and settle for an only moderately true statement?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 01:06:04 2018 No.10553282 >>10553277 Could it be.. because of.. moderation?

Anonymous Thu Jan 18 02:09:04 2018 No.10553421

>>10553277
notice I didn't say the negatives of extremism outway the positives. A smart capable man would use extremism to further his goal because of his knowledge of history and observations of his surroundings. A smart man truly believing his extremist views are always the best course or action are rare and always destructive. For the 99% of any extremists, I stand by my statement

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 18 06:55:24 2018 No.10554008 This thread was moved to >>>/pol/157127089

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