/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10536264]

How the FUCK is the greatest writer in human history a conservative?!?!! Ughhhh... The Arts are SUPPOSED to be our thing >:(

[Anonymous No.10536391]

> Dosto
> the greatest writer
Fuck off , where do people like you come from? The man was in front of the firing squad, lost his mind, and started writing this Christian propaganda . Christ , Christ!!! Almost throw up during the sceneces in the monastery when reading brothers karamazov . There have been better writers in the detective genre or mystisim...

[Anonymous No.10536397]

Not even better than Tolstoy or Bely.

[Anonymous No.10536398]

>>10536264
>>10536391
At least put some effort into shitposting

[Anonymous No.10536426]

>>10536397
He is better than Tolstoy.

[Anonymous No.10536476]

>>10536397
>Tolsoyboy

[Anonymous No.10536638]

>>10536264
I hear you senpai

[Anonymous No.10536654]

whose he best leftist writer

[Anonymous No.10536719]

>greatest writer
>his talent comes from writing puppet shows that are just a poor excuse to explain the reader what he believes in
>stories are neither believable nor human
>basically wrote masturbation in disguise

[Anonymous No.10536725]

>>10536264
He isn't the best and most of the greatest artists are leftist anyway.

[Anonymous No.10536730]

>>10536719
Hey, he deserves some credit. For a conservative that's a lot thinking.

[Anonymous No.10536738]

>>10536730
I think who you're replying to is a leftist and I don't think 4 lines qualifies you for credit IMO

[Anonymous No.10536743]

>>10536264
tbqh I think leftists make much better musicians/actors/playwrights, in fact name me a great left-wing novelist

[Anonymous No.10536760]

>>10536264
Tbh it is not that simple though, Dostoevsky did expose a lot of the horrors that the working-class went through as well as the hypocrisy of the upper-class. He mocked 19th century attitudes to women.

Tolstoy and Blake were both christian, they both were very left-wing

[Anonymous No.10536767]

>>10536719
>stories are neither believable nor human
t. faggot that has never lived life

[Anonymous No.10536768]

>>10536760
It's actually pretty simple if you look at his ideology and not try and cherry pick examples to make it look more complex than it really is

[Anonymous No.10536778]

>>10536264
>the 20th century's greatest poet was right-wing
>the 20th century's greatest novelist was right-wing
>the 20th century's greatest philosopher was right-wing
>the 20th century's greatest political figure was right-wing

Are conservatives just better at culture than us?

[Anonymous No.10536780]

>you can stop yourself from replying to the bait
>but you can't stop the board from doing it

[Anonymous No.10536783]

>>10536391
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.10536785]

>>10536780
every post on 4chan is bait

[Anonymous No.10536794]

>>10536778
Yes.

Leftist "art" is just pathetic.

[Anonymous No.10536801]

>>10536743
It's kind of embarrassing really. Dostoyevsky, Lovecraft, Tolkien, T.S Eliot, W.B Yeats, Pound. Truly overrepresented among the greats. It's really depressing to think how much we've missed out on because those on the right typically choose things like having a steady successful career, a family that loves them, and parents who are both around in their lives and proud of them

[Anonymous No.10536808]

>>10536768
Yeah, but he was a mixture of both left and right. On one hand he defended the Jews, on the other he hated the living shit out of the Turks. He wanted social equality, but hated socialism and wanted the idea of a ‘great and unified state’. His literature explored social problems found throughout society.

I just find putting him on a arbitrary point in the spectrum over-simplistic for a lot of his thoughts.

[Anonymous No.10536809]

>>10536778
>the 20th century's greatest philosopher was right-wing
Whomst you talking about?

[Anonymous No.10536812]

>>10536767
Ah yes. I too have lived in 20th century Russia.

>>10536264
Probably the greatest "conservative" writer I suppose, but far from the greatest in history. Hell, but the standards of his time I don't think he was really conservative though. He's merely religious.

Wasn't he sentenced to execution because of conspiring with rebels against the Tsars? Wasn't that the whole purpose of his exile? That'd make him rather liberal in terms of Russian politics. So would his general empathy for the disenfranchised.

[Anonymous No.10536815]

>>10536809
Heidegger obviously

[Anonymous No.10536830]

>>10536808
I'm not really putting him on a spectrum though. I'm not necessarily trying to put him on a left-right spectrum. His ideology was fundamentally conservative, which morons *ahem* >>10536812 try to obfuscate

[Anonymous No.10536850]

>>10536794
God, I hate 4chan’s culture of appropriating anything millennial to the left. I know that abstract art comes from a rebellion against tradition, left-wing and centrist thought allowing its growth, but 4chan strawmans the entire left ideology to some made up strawmen in their head. It is like me saying that anything from the 19th century is automatically “right-wing”. 4chan can spout out streotypical uneducated garbage sometimes. Anyone who thinks that Tumblr and teenage hipster-girls is a product of the “””””left”””””, forgets how co-operate these things are - this comes partially with the mixing of ‘liberal’ and ‘left’. 4chan bases everything with retarded association in their heads, to the point where they think a company like Starbucks has anything to do with the left. Left wing art is art that explores social-problems through a left-wing outlook, snapchat and instagram has nothing to do with the left.

TL/DR you don’t know shit about the left, and you lump everything you don’t like about today’s culture to it.

[Anonymous No.10536858]

>>10536850
4chan isn't one person

[Anonymous No.10536866]

>>10536850
>Dude, I know abstract art is from the left, and I don't actually have an issue with this post, but let me go on this massive irrelevant rant
It's okay anon, I read it all <3

[Anonymous No.10536870]

Stop trying to force people into your retarded political spectrum.

[Anonymous No.10536874]

>>10536858
Yeah there is a trend
>>10536866
I am just angry at seeing this over and over, so I just wanted a excuse to rant about it.

[Anonymous No.10536876]

>>10536801
>Lovecraft
>a steady successful career

[Anonymous No.10536908]

>>10536876
Yeah, that's exactly my point lol. People on the right *typically* chose a steady successful career. We need more mentally deranged & irrevocably fucked up right wingers so they can produce great literature, given how overrepresented they are among the elite relative to how many go into the field. Who knows, maybe the next Lovecraft is shitposting on 4chan at this very moment?

[Anonymous No.10536913]

>>10536264
>greatest writer
He is pure psychological masturbation. He isn't even close to the prose of Tolstoi who is a perfectionist. Tolstoi doesn't miss a single detail in the sceneries that he depicts

[Anonymous No.10536930]

>>10536760
This. In fact I think he was closer to be a left winger. Right wingers don't give a shit about the poor and Dostoevsky obviously cared about them.

[Anonymous No.10536942]

>>10536930
See>>10536870
I'm merely saying his ideology was conservative, which it objectively was.

buuuuuut since it's be brought through no fault of my own he was on the right

[Anonymous No.10536973]

>>10536913
>people who describe any artwork or fiction as "masturbation"

What the fuck does this even mean? Worse than a shit eating analogy. Just say you don't like it. Writing a novel is not analogous to stroking your cock regardless of the content of what you write.

[Anonymous No.10536978]

>>10536812
He literally defended the Czar you retard

[Anonymous No.10536981]

>>10536801
Joyce, Nabokov, Kafka, Blake, Milton all left leaning, Whitman, Emerson and Melville too. You have no ground to stand on and have to rely on Pound, Elliot, WH Lewis to feel in good company. The greatest authors of all time, most of whom I’ve already named were Socialists or Liberals. The arts are a liberal pursuit, for those free of spirit, not bound by hoary institutes or decrepit dogma. Eat a bullet

[Anonymous No.10537027]

>>10536981
>The arts are a liberal pursuit
This. Why would arts be called liberal arts if they weren't leftist?

[Anonymous No.10537032]

>>10536981
Well obviously it's a liberal pursuit. As I pointed out you have to be extremely fucked up or a moron( i.e. "passionate") to go into the arts. Conservatives typically go into fields where they can guarantee food on the table for their kids, their parents being proud of them, etc.

They are extremely overrepresented among the greats
>The arts are a liberal pursuit, for those free of spirit, not bound by hoary institutes or decrepit dogma. Eat a bullet
You sound like you need a hug friend, remember to not get so upset over a conversation. I'm not pushing any personal issues in your life on your political views :)

[Anonymous No.10537051]

>>10536981
Conservatives can make propaganda, but only liberals can make art.

[Anonymous No.10537058]

OP is an idiot for trying to compare modern (probably American) politics of legal weed, Chy-nah, and food stamp limitations with an era of mass starvation and turmoil in Russia where the political landscape wasn't even similar enough that what he thinks of as "libtards" and "conservatives" existed.

However these contrarian cunts who came out of the woodwork to trash talk Dostoevsky just because he's appreciated around here are just as bad.

[Anonymous No.10537070]

>>10537058
OP was talking about Conservatism as a philosophy, nothing more

OP thinks you're a moron

>>10537051
What does this even mean?

[Anonymous No.10537075]

>>10537032
Overrepresented how?

I know far more leftie artists than conservatives in spite of roughly 50% of the pop being conserv or centrist.

[Anonymous No.10537076]

>>10536426
Not at all.
>>10536426
The sort of "maturity" one can expect from an average Dostoevsky fan. No wonder he attracts mainly dumb frogposters from r9k.

[Anonymous No.10537082]

what's up with all the conservative bashing in this thread? Half of it is whining over Dost being a "hurr durr Christian propagandist" -- in the 19th FUCKING CENTURY -- and the other half is bashing some ill-defined political conservatism when that's not what OP was even talking about.

next they'll say that Tchaikovsky was a bigot for promoting gender roles in the Nutcracker.

[Anonymous No.10537086]

>>10537027
>Why would arts be called liberal arts if they weren't leftist?
I'm not sure whether to laugh or scream in rage...

[Anonymous No.10537090]

>>10537082
Tchaikovsky was a soy abuser.
>muh pwetty mewodies, muh womanticism
pure firetrucker garbage

[Anonymous No.10537100]

>>10537027
You know that pretty much everywhere other than in America liberals are considered right wing, right?

[Anonymous No.10537103]

>>10537076
Replying to the same post twice? huh? You fucking retard?

[Anonymous No.10537130]

>>10536397
Both were conservatives as well.

[Anonymous No.10537148]

>there are at least 10 /pol/ threads on /lit/ at any given time
These mods/janitors need to kill themselves

[Anonymous No.10537154]

>>10536264
who is "us"?

[Anonymous No.10537167]

>>10537148
By /pol/ do you mean political in nature? Because if not this isn't a /pol/ thread

[Anonymous No.10537177]

>>10536719
If you really believe that and you've read Crime and Punishment (you prolly haven't) then you either

A) Have never met an extremely intellectually arrogant person

B) You are an extremely intellectually arrogant person and are totally unaware of it

[Anonymous No.10537196]

>>10537148
>/pol/ thread = any thread in which people are disagreeing over politics
God forbid.

[Anonymous No.10537212]

>>10537196
The political compass is just I II II |_ at this point

[Anonymous No.10537214]

>>10537167
By /pol/ threads I mean threads trying to shill right wing ideologies in a left wing board

[Anonymous No.10537228]

>>10537214
>left wing board

[Anonymous No.10537234]

>>10536264
That isn't Shakespeare?

[Anonymous No.10537247]

>>10536981
>>10537027
>>10537051
You fucking retards, the term liberal arts has nothing to do with contemporary politics. It's liberal as in opposed of being a slave, not as in opposed of being a conservative.

[Anonymous No.10537260]

>>10537247
T H I S

[Anonymous No.10537263]

>>10536850
It is leftist art, you dumbass.

[Anonymous No.10537266]

>>10537247
I think they were joking, friend.

[Anonymous No.10537268]

>>10536930
The left only cares about the poor as long as they stay poor and they get to tell them what to do. As soon as they start thinking for themselves and actually decide to improve their lives instead of being dependant on benefits, the left starts to hate them.

[Anonymous No.10537276]

>>10537247
>durr liberal arts isn’t liberal
of course not, no one said that you mongrel!
didn’t read what I said, didn’t do follow up research. don’t understand at all the connection between ‘free spirits’ and liberty, liberal social values, liberality of mind and openness. get off this board now

[Anonymous No.10537278]

>>10536981
>The arts are a liberal pursuit, for those free of spirit, not bound by hoary institutes or decrepit dogma
Yeah, that's why no socialist country has never censored any books like Cancer Ward, The Gulag Archipelago, Master & Margarita...

Oh, wait.

[Anonymous No.10537279]

>>10537177
I have read C&P but I was mainly referring to brothers K and the idiot. Dosto should have just written essays instead of fiction, he is an insightful person who chose a suboptimal way to convey his ideas.

[Anonymous No.10537287]

>>10536264
The "great moralizing infant" Dosto? Wouldn't you rather have an actual discussion about lit? How bored must you be to post this culture war baiting crap?

[Anonymous No.10537304]

>>10537287
haha yeah, fuck you and your fucking morals!!!

[Anonymous No.10537321]

>>10537278
>State Socialist authoritarians are the same thing as Social Liberals, Libertines, Bohemians, Democratic Socialist utopians, Christian Socialists
/pol/ doesn’t send its best nor its brightest

[Anonymous No.10537332]

>>10537247
>hurr durr ackchyually liberal arts aren't liberal
>hurr durr ackchyually you can totally be a conservative and a liberal at the same time
I think you're the retarded one.
There's no such thing as conservative art or a conservative artist. It's an oxymoron. Conservatives can't be artists because art is all about going fordward and conservatives want to keep everything as it is, right? So even if someone is a conservative, if he were to make art his art would be liberal anyway. If someone really tried to make conservative art then it wouldn't be art but propaganda.

[Anonymous No.10537389]

>>10537332
>implying all those pepe memes aren't conservative art

[Anonymous No.10537390]

>>10536850
You can criticize tradition and forge your own path without making far too minimalist and abstract garbage.

[Anonymous No.10537420]

>>10537321
Look at all the social democrats and misc. people on the left today who want to ban anything and everything that offends them.

Yeah, they all want the same thing.

[Anonymous No.10537423]

>>10537420
wow

[Anonymous No.10537429]

>>10537420
underage spotted

[Anonymous No.10537440]

>>10537276
>>10537332
This.

[Anonymous No.10537442]

>>10537423
>>10537429
Great arguments.

>free speech is hate speech!

[Anonymous No.10537454]

>>10537442
will you go back to your boards now? >>>/v/ >>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.10537458]

>>10536794

[Anonymous No.10537459]

I'm loving this thread. /lit/ is slowly turning into a left wing board as it should be. LMAO at all these right wingers getting BTFO.

[Anonymous No.10537470]

>>10536264
DESTROY THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE
EAT MY HEMORRHOID ASS ARMCHAIR CHRISTIAN TOLSTOY

[Anonymous No.10537567]

I’ve decided to read NO WHITE MEN for 2018. TIME to give POC a chance!!!! So to start the year off I’m reading Crime and Punishment

[Anonymous No.10537601]

a true avant garde piece

this entire thread
i finally understand

screencap me

[Anonymous No.10537603]

If leftists were good at anything, they'd stop being leftists.

[Anonymous No.10537606]

>>10537567
What

[Anonymous No.10537657]

>>10537606
Dostoyevsky was unironically a non-transitioned trans woman. That's something that his right wing fans and /pol/tards seldom like to talk about though.

[Anonymous No.10537682]

>great art has anything at all to do with 'left wing' 'right wing' stance of the author

[Anonymous No.10537696]

>>10537682
This. Think for example about Yeats or Neruda. Both were very political persons yet they art was beyond politics. Great art is always apolitical.

[Anonymous No.10537776]

>>10537214
leftist censorship at work again
no board other than /pol/ has any political affiliation. go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.10537789]

This thread is fucking garbage.
Art is about what it means to be human. It examines the human condition, it creates commentary on the world and it's people (and NOT in a political way). Art is about the beauty in our existence. Fuck off with your "hurr durr conservatives make propaganda and liberals make art" bullshit. Any art that is political is propaganda.

>>10537696
Best post ITT

[Anonymous No.10537791]

Dostoevsky isn't even a *good* writer.

[Anonymous No.10537798]

>>10536812
>Wasn't he sentenced to execution because of conspiring with rebels against the Tsars? Wasn't that the whole purpose of his exile? That'd make him rather liberal in terms of Russian politics. So would his general empathy for the disenfranchised.
Yes, but he repented of this and viewed it as a youthful folly later on, i.e. namely in his great works.

[Anonymous No.10537823]

>>10537798
in fairness, there's a degree of skepticism regarding the validity of his charge, and anyone who's read Notes from Underground can clearly see he has contempt for Russian humanitarianism. The question is whether this viewed developed in prison, either as a defensive posture or in reaction to living in close quarters with rebels, or if it developed after his release when he saw the plight of societal nihilism that the humanitarian movement had brought about.

[Anonymous No.10537861]

>>10536778
>>10536809
All the greatest philosophers from here on out will be right-wing because they will have been inspired by Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.10537917]

>>10536264

Every writer before the 1960s would be deemed a 'conservative' by today standards.

[Anonymous No.10537925]

>>10537917
And every contemporary writter will be considered a conservative in 50 years. The future is leftist.

[Anonymous No.10537951]

>>10537925
>The future is leftist.
> The future is dystopian

FTFY

[Anonymous No.10537971]

>>10536264

To believe that any form of art, to be good, has to reflect some political or philosophical world view is either to be a 16 year old or a 16 year old in an adult body playing Politics MMORPG™ 2010s edition.
Art is supposed to be beautiful, not eductional.

[Anonymous No.10537997]

All the greatest authors are conservative you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.10538070]

>>10536476
Nice meme

[Anonymous No.10538117]

>>10537971
Dostoyevsky's work was political tho, and it is clear that he disliked a lot of leftist ideas.

[Anonymous No.10538158]

>100+ replies
Sports, politics, and religion are the three passions of the badly educated.

[Anonymous No.10538164]

>>10537148
>janitors delete fun threads or threads where bona fide schizos probably homeless ask for advice
>leave shitposts up
I don’t mind all shitpost threads but why the fuck is always the fun ones that get killed and the banal hellworld ones that persist

[Anonymous No.10538188]

>>10537789
That isnt always true at all though. There are many south american and Russian modernists that are informed by political turmoil. Dickens which was highly political/class focused and Orwell too.

Sure the books that are entirely aesthetic and artiface transcend the worldly domain of politics i.e. shit like abstract books The Waves, Ulysses etc. But there is a ton of political masterpieces.

[Anonymous No.10539199]

>>10536981
>Nabakov
>left leaning
Lmao

[Anonymous No.10539210]

>>10537861
Inb4 le Nietzsche isn’t right wing maymay

[Anonymous No.10539251]

>>10536264
art is by nature both liberal and conservative

[Anonymous No.10539489]

>>10537332
>art is all about going fordward
That's a rather essentialist view of art, don't you think? Also, your typo reveals more about the liberal conception of art than any post in this thread.

[Anonymous No.10539497]

>>10536264
The greatest writer? Really? I feel gross just replying. Also reported for underage

[Anonymous No.10539537]

>>10537789
>Any art that is political is propaganda.
Or perhaps any art that is apolitical is simply unaware of its dependence on ideology. There is no god's eye view that we can take of art. Apolitical art is subservient art, art that treats its ideological backdrop as a white canvas.

[Anonymous No.10539540]

>>10539210
Nietzche isn't right wing.

[Anonymous No.10539542]

the surest way to determine whether someone is a massive faggot is if they prefer tolstoy to dostoevsky. it works everytime

[Anonymous No.10539556]

>>10536973
I don't know, man. Have you read any Clive Cussler?

[Anonymous No.10539565]

>>10536850
>even pointing us to tumblr

We were aware who you are from the very beginning, /lit/ is not for girls who go on tumblr and are "bookworms xd". /lit/ is for people who look beyond the mundane borders. Now go back to your containment site.

[Anonymous No.10539574]

>>10536476
kek

[Anonymous No.10539576]

>>10536264
> thinking the arts are entitled to you

[Anonymous No.10539698]

>>10537332
> conservatives want to keep everything as it is, right?
I don't think you should be the one calling anyone retarded anon. Please read some basic conservative philosophy. I'd recommend starting with Edmund Burke. Thankyou

[Anonymous No.10539740]

>>10537442
Read >>10537420 back. Now think, anon: Who are these people? Can you produce examples? Do they represent a trend or majority in the left? Do you have data to support that assertion? Do you really think there are no such people on the right?
After you've given these questions careful consideration, read the responses your post received. Maybe you'll learn something though I doubt it

[Anonymous No.10539800]

>>10539740
There's data that shows the younger generation are okay with banning speech if it is offensive to minorities, around 40%. There's obviously plenty of anecdotes as well as spats with large corporations

[Anonymous No.10539861]

>>10539800
>There's data that shows the younger generation are okay with banning speech if it is offensive to minorities, around 40%.
Post it.

[Anonymous No.10539976]

>>10539861
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/

[Anonymous No.10539992]

>>10536391
The chapters about Elder Zosima were the most kino parts of the book besides Alyosha and Ivan's discussions + Grand Inquisitor. Fucking plebs always hate the good parts of books.

[Anonymous No.10539995]

>>10537214
>left wing board

[Anonymous No.10540003]

>>10537971
Isn't that just aesthetacism? What about art that is reflective? Contemplative? Rebellious? Purely provocative, or even mocking?

Art, I'm sure, means many things to many people. Not just that which is "beautiful", non?

[Anonymous No.10540070]

>>10539210
Nietzsche is beyond this dumb obsolete dichotomy.

[Anonymous No.10540419]

>>10539740
>>10539800
>>10539861
>>10539976
BTFO.

And asking 'who are these people?' just means you have been living under a rock for a few decades.

Do you see right-wing people burning up the streets as soon as some 'controversial' figure (like the jew, Ben Shapiro lol) wants to give a speech? Or were they people from the far-left?

It's the same where I live. When a dozen (at best) confused nazis demonstrate, you'll see hundreds, in some cases thousands, of protesters on the left attacking THE POLICE for defending the nazis right to free speech.

[Anonymous No.10540421]

>>10537130
>Tolstoy
>A conservative
Anon... I...

[Anonymous No.10540422]

>>10536981
>Joyce
>Left leaning
ROFL, brainlet assumes because he wrote from perspective of a degenerate that he thought it was good.

[Anonymous No.10540428]

>muh conservatives
>muh liberals
>my team is better than your team looool
Can't wait for americans to nuke themselves :')

[Anonymous No.10540434]

>>10540419
>Jewish Astro turf empowers bugmen and rentseeking minorities

Stop the presses!

[Anonymous No.10540438]

>>10536778
>the 20th century's greatest poet was right-wing
>the 20th century's greatest novelist was right-wing
Who are you talking about

[Anonymous No.10540445]

>>10540434
>d-d-dah joos!

[Anonymous No.10540446]

>>10539976
It's surprising that college educated people are more likely to support free speech compared to less educated groups

[Anonymous No.10540467]

>>10537100
In America they are also collectivists rather than the individualists found elsewhere. The eternal contrarian and radical.

[Anonymous No.10540486]

>>10537390
I bet you don't even like Picasso, pleb.
>>10540434
>Astro turfs
>Bugmen
Back to plebbit

[Anonymous No.10540497]

>>10537279
Notes is basically an essay

[Anonymous No.10540814]

>>10537278
And yet both Bulgakov and Solzhenytsin ridiculed, mocked and condemned communism in their works.

[Anonymous No.10540825]

>>10540428
If you read the thread I make it clear I'm not talking about American politics or the left right spectrum several times, rather that he was philosophically conservative

[Anonymous No.10541173]

>>10537332
please, unironically, drown yourself in a shallow puddle. There's so much wrong with this I don't even know where to begin.

[Anonymous No.10541184]

>>10540438
Pound and Celine is what he's probably implying

[Anonymous No.10541548]

>>10540814
Yeah. That's why their work was banned/censored. Criticism against communism/socialism can't be allowed.

[Anonymous No.10541651]

>>10536930
>shared from Occupy Democrats
Yeah! Fight the power! We're the #resistance and we will #persist. I can't believe all these RETARDED proles vote against their own interests instead of voting for ME, if only they'd read more Marxist lesbian poetry they would understand their need to free themselves from the oppressive white power structures of Amerikkka. No EVIL WHITE CHRISTIAN RIGHT WINGER has ever cared about the poor like I do
*sips $8 frappe*
*closes Macbook in frustration*
ugh my parents were always so religious, can't believe they would let themselves be so deluded. They never understood me.

[Anonymous No.10541660]

>>10536981
Because the political spectrum has continually shifted left over time, those authors are contemporarily right wing

[Anonymous No.10541676]

>>10537268
>The left only cares about the poor as long as they stay poor and they get to tell them what to do
jesus dude, right on the money

[Anonymous No.10541724]

>>10536850
I always thought that abstract art derived from the new scientific paradigm that appeared in the late 19th century and early 20th century of non Euclidean geometries and their eventual applications to physics.

[Anonymous No.10542114]

>>10536981
>The arts are a liberal pursuit, for those free of spirit, not bound by hoary institutes or decrepit dogma.
Is this sentence not dogma?

[Anonymous No.10542313]

>>10536264
Go to /pol/ with this shit.

[Anonymous No.10542321]

he's a great writer but not a conservative

[Anonymous No.10542364]

*blocks your path*

[Anonymous No.10543134]

>>10542114
No, it's just a fact. Liberals can't be dogmatic because we're free spirits.

[Anonymous No.10543246]

>>10537051
Imagine being this wrong

[Anonymous No.10543266]

>>10537212
He, hehehe.
Hueheueheu

[Anonymous No.10543290]

>>10537051
True.

>>10537247
You can't be right-wing without being bound to useless traditions for the sake of tradition, shame, anger and resentment.

[Anonymous No.10544909]

>>10543290
Traditions are what built the greatest civilizations.

Leftist thinking is what destroyed them.

[Anonymous No.10545238]

>>10541724
I thought it was a response by painters to the development of photography.