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[Anonymous No.10531876]

This is the most intelligent human being of the last 118 years

[Anonymous No.10531882]

>>10531876
I challenge that assertion. Tell me what have been his intellectual achievements that command such a high estimating of him from your part.

[Anonymous No.10531919]

>>10531882
He pandered bullshit to catholics and died a millionaire who spread his esoteric hypermentalistic (even more so than Freud) psychoanalysis to every third world shithole through dogmatic politics while his patients kept killing themselves and his disciples interpreting the symbolic topological relation of every fart he ever had even after he got dementia and stopped talking altogether. If that's not brilliance then I don't care for it!

But seriously, I do like some Lacanian concepts (subject supposed to know, there is no sexual rapport, signifier-signified reversal etc.) and how far he took his chosen approaches (Hegel, Saussure, etc.), but at the end of the day he created a cult of can't-know-nuffins that have an answer for everything, but can't cure anything except personal neurotic delusions that don't require their paranoiac Oedipal / unconscious-linguistic approach to begin with.

The way they unironically say that every mental illness is the result of a free choice, but an unconscious one, should make us suspicious to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10531928]

>>10531919
quality rage post

[Anonymous No.10531954]

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[Anonymous No.10531964]

>>10531876
Literally kill yourself if you literally believe that, you fucking pathetic retard

[Anonymous No.10531990]

>>10531964
Awww, anon. You really need a warm loving cuddle.

[Anonymous No.10532066]

>>10531954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGJrFeGTK5k

[Anonymous No.10532200]

>>10532066
He really seems legit dumb

[Anonymous No.10532278]

>>10531954
This is now a Derrida thread

[Anonymous No.10532293]

>>10532278

[Anonymous No.10532306]

>>10532278
Go to bed, Jordan.

[Anonymous No.10532342]

Lacan was a manchild lol. He threw a fit when D&G were writing anti oedipe behind his back. I know a lacanian analyst (an actual one from Paris who studied under Lacan) and she's the most pretentious, death anxiety riddled person I know. This is the power of lacanian psychoanalysis.

[Anonymous No.10532555]

>>10531919
What is this about Lacan and Catholicism?

[Anonymous No.10532562]

>>10532342
it doesn't matter though, the point of psychoanalysis is not to make anyone's life better, just something something desire

[Anonymous No.10532570]

>>10531919
>can't-know-nuffins that have an answer for everything
>they unironically say that every mental illness is the result of a free choice, but an unconscious one
have you even read anything by lacan

[Anonymous No.10532577]

>>10531919
>people killed themselves

So?

[Anonymous No.10532585]

>>10532306
Who Jordan

[Anonymous No.10532600]

>>10532342
>D&G were writing anti oedipe behind his back
wow, I thought Dolce and Gabana just made ugly overpriced belts and stuff.

[Anonymous No.10532602]

Lacan basically stole everything from Gombrowicz

[Anonymous No.10532664]

>>10532602
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.10532686]

>>10532664
most of lacan's ideas were expropriated from Gombrowicz. Gombrowicz wrote way before lacan and you can substitute Gombrowicz's notions with Lacan's real and they say the exact same thing

[Anonymous No.10532701]

>>10532686
Lacan very openly derived his cocnept of the real from Heidegger though

[Anonymous No.10532779]

>>10532570
> have you even read anything by lacan

I was talking about his influence, not his own work, like I very precisely pointed out. As to whether this is just because Lacanians are too plebs for their master or not, I don't care. Although if you have an argument as to why these things they constantly spew go explicitly against Lacan's teachings, I'd honestly and unironically love to hear it and hope to change my opinion on the matter. But you probably won't reply.

[Anonymous No.10532788]

>>10532686
Where in Gombrowicz's books can I read about these notions?

[Anonymous No.10532797]

>implying I'm not smarter
nice try, op

[Anonymous No.10532802]

>>10532577
One might assume that the clinic seeks to help patients (not "cure" since "health" doesn't apply that well to psychoanalysis fundamentally). If them killing themselves means that it worked, then I'd rather skip the middle man.

>>10532555
His concepts were named stuff like "Name-of-the-Father" and "Borromean knot" (literally that three circled symbol on the Catholic confessional box) and he wrote at length about mystics and their enjoyment, just to name some of the stuff.

[Anonymous No.10532808]

>>10532802
Some people are weak and need help coming to a big decision like killing themselves.

[Anonymous No.10532817]

Marshall McLuhan

[Anonymous No.10532827]

*blocks your path*
not so fast litfags

[Anonymous No.10532972]

>>10532817
Go away Logo

[Anonymous No.10533109]

>Now he could make his sessions as short, and as expensive, as he liked. Even when they had contracted to a minute or two, he would often see his tailor, his pedicurist and his barber while conducting his analyses. In the final years, the process of shortening reached its natural conclusion in the "non-session", in which "the patient was not allowed either to speak or not to speak" as Lacan "had no time to waste on silence". With the help of non-sessions he averaged 80 patients a day in the penultimate year of his life. Non-sessions were perhaps an improvement on sessions, in which, disinhibited through dementia, he would indulge his bad temper, raging at patients and occasionally punching them or pulling their hair.

>The calamitous consequences of his style of doctoring were entirely predictable: his clients committed suicide at a rate that would have alarmed a man armed with less robust self-confidence. He claimed that it was due to the severity of the cases he took on but it may also have had something to do with the way he would start and stop analysis at whim and would sometimes cast aside, at very short notice, people who had been under his "care" for years. The brilliant ethnologist Lucien Sebag killed himself at 32 after having been been discharged abruptly from treatment - because Lacan wanted to sleep with Sebag's teenage daughter. Not that Dr Lacan was always so constrained by such exquisite moral scruples. He frequently chose his mistresses from his training analysts (who were additionally vulnerable because they relied on him for the pass necessary for them to practise as Lacanian analysts) and also from his ordinary analysands.

>On the principle of credo ut intelligam his disciples still believed him even when, in his last few years, he was manifestly suffering from multi-infarct dementia. He became obsessed by a particular mathematical figure called a Borromean knot, in which he saw the key to the unconscious, to sexuality and to the ontological situation of mankind. His quasi-mathematical, pseudo-logical fantasies - the culmination of the cargo cult science of his school - propounded in interminable seminars, were agonised over by his congregation who suffered appallingly from their inability to make sense of them. They felt unworthy of the Master. Even his episodes of aphasia, due to mini-strokes, were taken to be "interpretations", in the technical sense of conveying "the latent meaning of what the analysand has said and done". When, towards the end, he became deaf and his responses were even more disconnected from what was said to him, this occasioned protracted arguments among his followers over the meaning of his words and deeds. Even when, in his last year, Lacan's mind was entirely vacant, he was still brought to meetings "to legitimise what was being done in his name" and "suggestible people heard him speak through his silence".

based af

the chad psychiatrist

[Anonymous No.10533202]

>>10533109
The greatest pseud ever existed?

[Anonymous No.10534560]

>>10531876
Why the last 118 years specifically?

[Anonymous No.10534587]

>>10533109
So this is the power of the French..

It's amazing how many of these figures developed actual cults like this. You keep expecting the incredulity of their followers to kick in, but then you realize all the healthily incredulous people were long gone. The weirdest shit is when you read books written by the people in that last paragraph, in the 90s and 2000s, still fucking talking about psychoanalysis.

[Anonymous No.10534607]

>>10531954
Who is this?

Benny Hill?

[Anonymous No.10534640]

>>10533109
>Lucien Sebag
His wiki page he killed himself after *he* fell in love with Lacan's daughter.

I'd like to imagine both accounts are true, and Lacan asked Sebag to fuck his daughter as revenge.

[Anonymous No.10534676]

>>10532585
Michael Jordan

[Anonymous No.10534692]

>>10531876
>This is the most intelligent human being of the last 118 years
Why didn't you post Ed Witten OP?

[Anonymous No.10535101]

>>10533109
fucking triggered me

[Anonymous No.10535145]

terence tao

[Anonymous No.10535321]

>>10533109
did he physically manhandle Zizek and slap him around for days? that would explain a lot

[Anonymous No.10535476]

>>10531876

How do you even understand his stuff in the first place? Baffles me.

[Anonymous No.10535543]

>>10531876
The shah of Iran was cool but l’m more of an ayatollah guy myself

[Anonymous No.10535560]

>>10535543
But thats Phil Leotardo

[Anonymous No.10535593]

>>10535145
>>10534692
>>10531876
>>10531954
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[Anonymous No.10535613]

>>10532555
There was a group of Right-Lacanians that attended his lectures, most of them priests. Zizek sometimes mentions them in his more serious books.

[Anonymous No.10535624]

Lacan is one of the few thinkers I have absolutely no interest in reading. Everything about him just reeks of fraud.

[Anonymous No.10535632]

>>10531876
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10535635]

>>10531876
That's not Jordan B. Peterson

[Anonymous No.10535740]

>>10532827
Neumann is much Math Tier for this board full of fucking continentals that refuse cientific knowledge

[Anonymous No.10536821]

>>10535593
literal kike who stole all his ideas from goyim in order to promote himsef

[Anonymous No.10536920]

>>10535740
math isn't scientific knowledge in the empirical sense

[Anonymous No.10537104]

>>10535613
What does he say about them?

[Anonymous No.10537140]

>>10532827
he took all his ideas from Norbert Wiener though

why are neumannfags so clueless?

[Anonymous No.10537533]

>>10531876
>who is von neumann

[Anonymous No.10537549]

>>10534560
since nietzsche died i guess
and he's right about that bit at least

[Anonymous No.10538320]

>>10537140
>another kike
is everyone here a brainwashed amerimutt? jews aren't that smart

[Anonymous No.10538988]

>>10533109
absolutely based

[Anonymous No.10539704]

>>10535635
This.

[Anonymous No.10539827]

>>10537549
But Heidegger is the most intelligent human being since Aristotle.

[Anonymous No.10539830]

>>10534587
All french philosophy could disappear and nothing of too much value would be lost. Even their very best philosopher, Derrida, is mostly useless if you have read Heidegger and Wittgenstein.

[Anonymous No.10539833]

>>10539830
> he hasn't heard about Gills the Loser and his Guitar

[Anonymous No.10540156]

>>10533109
Based as fuck

[Anonymous No.10540191]

>>10531876
>postmodernist
>smart
>continental philosophy
>smart

[Anonymous No.10540208]

>>10540191
memes aside, lacan is not post-structuralist

[Anonymous No.10540216]

>>10540208
i dont care what you think lacan is or what lacan says he is, because you are all liars. your entire epistemology is an elaborate justification for being a liar.

[Anonymous No.10540222]

>>10540216
never said lacan wasn't shit, just that you are just a bugman repeating meaningless words he hears on the internet to feel like you are part of something

[Anonymous No.10540223]

>>10540222
Shut up you big meanie caca poopoo head!

[Anonymous No.10540259]

Hard to determine if he was the most intelligent person, but this thread proves that /lit/ deserves the title of the least intelligent place of the last 118 years

[Anonymous No.10540264]

>>10540259
Would post which actually think that this thread is about whoever is the smartest person of the last 118 years, rather than just shitposting about Lacan, count as bringing down the average by about 100% ?

[Anonymous No.10540797]

Does Lacan have anything worthwhile to say? The ISR triad seems fairly useful in film criticism and such, but all the matheme / faux-topology shit reeks of charlatanism

[Anonymous No.10540803]

>>10540208
he is a structuralist.

[Anonymous No.10541955]

>>10533109
>because Lacan wanted to sleep with Sebag's teenage daughter.
It was the other way around, Sebag fell in love with Lacan's daughter. Sebag was 32 at the time of his death, and I can find no information whatsoever that he had children.

[Anonymous No.10542537]

>>10541955
Makes more sense than Lacan wanting to date his patient's underage daughter, but you never know with these types. Zizek's ex-wife, a model who was the daughter of a South American psychoanalyst, was named Analia. So nothing surprises me these days.

[Anonymous No.10543906]

>>10531876
>implying it wasn't pic related or William Gass
zozzle

>>10532788
Kosmos is his best imo