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Who are/were the best bisexual authors, besides pic related?

>> No.10527913

Virginia Woolf

>> No.10527917

Melville wasn't bisexual, however.

>> No.10527920
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>>10527894
The woman on the poc unironically

>> No.10527922
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10527922

Unironically

>> No.10527927

>>10527917

yes he was, he had a relationship with Nathaniel Hawthorne as well as other men that are well-documented.

>> No.10527933

>>10527894
Djuana Barnes

>> No.10527941
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>>10527922
Only the patricians know

>> No.10527963

>>10527927
He means he was a straight up homo

>> No.10527969

>>10527922
Why are you posting a whitewashed depiction of a famous black lesbian author

>> No.10527974

>>10527927
>with Nathaniel Hawthorne
They were friends and Melville admired him, yes. Viewing this as proof of homosexuality is more proof of the insecurity of the person saying so and cluelessness about male friendship.
>as well as other men that are well-documented
Such as...?

I really think a lot of what people call gay in Melville was just a deep longing for/appreciation of male bonding and friendship (especially due to his time whaling and sailing with what must have been manly men, to put it as simply as possible). A lot of people haven't experienced this in their life so they misconstrue it as sexual when it's really just more emotional/sentimental than we'd like to admit.

>> No.10527977

>>10527974
Male friendship is always gay

>> No.10527998

>>10527977
In a sense, yes. The same way that female friendships are often more unabashedly gay. I think looking at the sometimes exuberant and childish way friends act around each other as related to sex is, again, either proof of insecurity, or excessively trying to appropriate everything for homosexuality.

>> No.10528022

>>10527998
No I'm serious, I have no respect for any grown man who considers another male his "friend", its pathetic and effeminate

>> No.10528093

>>10528022
Well then congratulations, everyone's gay except for you

>> No.10528110

>>10528022
this is backwards and wrong

>> No.10528127

>>10528093
You're deluded if you think the modern concept of male friendship isn't just a recent consumerist invention.
Men have colleagues and fellow travelers. The idea of two men sharing an innate bond and not simply vicariously allied towards a shared goal is post war degeneracy

>> No.10528134

>>10527894
DH Lawrence?

>> No.10528138

>>10528022
Does dressing up your sadness and loneliness as masculinity really work? Asking for a friend

>> No.10528140

>>10528138
Its surprisingly effective actually, yes

>> No.10528185

Lawrence
Whitman
Maugham
Rimbaud
Verlaine
Mishima
Shakespeare
Hemingway (closeted)
All five good female authors
Burroughs
Cheever
Hawthorne
Melville
Vidal

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>>10528185
>All five good female authors
Names?

>> No.10528198

>>10528190
He's already wrong because Charlotte Bronte loved cock like she loved oxygen

>> No.10528204

>>10528190
Not him but
Dickinson
Eliot
Woolfe
O'Connor
?

>> No.10528216

>>10528204
>O'Connor

Huh, citation needed

>> No.10528228
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>>10528204
>O'Connor
No, she was Catholic
>>10528198
She looked great

>> No.10528231

>>10528138
lol

>> No.10528253

>>10528216
True. She barely had any sex sexual contact and had no lust at all. From her diaries, we know that her life was solely dedicated to her craft and her sacred faith.

>> No.10528274

>>10528190
Gertrude Stein
Ayn Rand
Author of Harry
Author of Twilight
Author of 50 shades
Clarice Lispector
Shelley
Emily
Author of to the lighthouse
Simone

>> No.10528397

>>10527998
>>10527974
>>10527917
Wow, look a intelligent and logical opinion.

>> No.10528417

>>10527974
Contemporaries are so decadent that they think any historical instance of male bonding is gay. Somehow homosociality gets conflated with homosexuality. Leftists are, surprisingly, even worse about this than others, what with claiming everything vaguely homosocial as queer history.

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>>10528417
>homosocial

Gayest fucking shit I ever heard

>> No.10529944

Me
You should check out my upcoming release, 'My Diary, Desu'

>> No.10529954

>>10528185
Wasn't Rimbaud gay though? And I thought Mishima wasn't gay at all

>> No.10529959

>>10529954
>And I thought Mishima wasn't gay at all
Kidding right?
I don't know about Rimbaud though

>> No.10530050

So, hypothetically, if you saw a cute guy, and you thought to yourself "wow, I'm gay now," but then you realized it was just a girl who looked kinda like a guy, is that gay?

>> No.10530063

Shakespeare wasn't gay. Not one bit.

>> No.10531431

>>10528274
>>10528198 applies to Ayn Rand as well

>> No.10531436

>>10528127
Wrong

>> No.10531524

>>10529959
He and Verlaine had 'lived' together as lovers for a while.

Also all the greeks, unless you dont count boyfucking as gay.

>> No.10531617

>>10528127
This is why you have no friends anon.

>> No.10531651

>>10531524
Yes...except for Aristotle and all the other playwrights who openly expressed homophobic opinions. Nicomachean Ethics isn't exactly pro-gay. Aristotle compares it to people who eat dirt or obsessively chew their finger nails. He theorizes that homosexuality is the result of child abuse.

>> No.10531710

>>10531524
>>10531651
Fucking boys and getting fucked was ridiculed in all the Greek comedies

>> No.10532151

>>10531524
>>10531651
>>10531710
This is another instance of what >>10528417 is talking about. Pederasty was not simply pedophilia. It was seen as vicious and depraved to take advantage of the lover/beloved relationship by having sex with the boy. Plato's Socrates is shown to be virtuous by keeping it Platonic with Alcibiades, as implied in the Symposium.

>> No.10532441

>>10528127
Nice bait, anon. Good job.

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>>10528185
>Rimbaud
>Verlaine
this.
>>10529954
>Wasn't Rimbaud gay though?
No, he had a wife and children.

>> No.10532723

Horace, Aleixandre... Proust I guess?

>> No.10532739

>>10532723
Umm Proust was a literal fag

>> No.10533341

>>10532739
So all of the stuff in ISOLT ain't even close to being autobiographical?

>> No.10534106

>>10532739
He was bi. He had relationships with women too.

>> No.10534115

>>10528127
MUUUUUUUH WHITE CIVILIZATION FUCKING NIGGERS

>> No.10534199

>>10534106
Yeah, no.
t. someone who is dedicating pretty much their life to Proust

>> No.10534248

>>10527969
Don‘t forget misgendered

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10534264

>>10527894

>> No.10534279

>>10534199
Sad that you're wrong about a major aspect of the thing you're dedicating your life to.

>> No.10534306

>>10528190
>>10528185
but anon, cather was a straight up lesbian

>> No.10534450

>>10534279
I’m not, but okay, bud. Let me know when you’ve read all his letters

>> No.10534510

>>10534279
youre an idiot

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10534530

>>10527894
him