[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 172 KB, 322x320, 1515586738782.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10518921 No.10518921 [Reply] [Original]

Any book that depicts perfectly the inner experience of a girl growing into a woman?

>> No.10518925

Lolita

>> No.10518926

>>10518921
my diary desu

>> No.10518931

>>10518921
Damn, Agatha looks like THAT?

>> No.10518956
File: 6 KB, 194x260, Download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10518956

everything by

>> No.10518967

>>10518956
Her video tutorials are, by far, superior to her written texts.

>> No.10518983

>>10518967
>Tutorials
Im laffin

>> No.10518987

>>10518921
stop posting this dyke

>> No.10518989

>>10518921
How would anyone on /lit/ know?

>> No.10518995

>>10518989
Some of us spend a lot of time thinking about little girls

>> No.10519002

diary of anne frank, obviously

>> No.10519016

>>10518921
Who is this?

>> No.10519022

>>10519002
She never quite reached a woman did she

>> No.10519047

>>10518921
CArrie

>> No.10519077
File: 640 KB, 796x767, 1515559912341.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10519077

Does Ada count?
Just read that anyway

>> No.10519097
File: 329 KB, 1728x2592, 1464371749967.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10519097

>>10518921
i capture the castle
the wasp factory

>> No.10519108
File: 113 KB, 1024x882, 1508357713209.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10519108

>>10518995
You're going away for a long time, Dan Schneider.

>> No.10519117

>>10518921
Not a novel but The Second Sex by Simone De Beauvoir was useful to me in understanding the feminine experience, especially around puberty and early sexuality.

>> No.10519155

>>10518921
Portrait of a Lady, Middlemarch
Orlando
maybe Matilda?

>> No.10519241

>>10518921
Tender is the Night sets itself up like that kinda but then segways to the destruction of a man

>> No.10519814

>>10518926
tits or GTFO

>> No.10519824

>>10519241
Such a great book, BTFO Gatsby

>> No.10519872

... Little Women? There's four, they all grow into different womens, except the one who dies.

>> No.10519961

>>10519872
>womens

>> No.10519967

>>10519961
>he can't detect an joke

>> No.10520662

>>10519097
Hey! Dodie Smith! I once gave this as a gift to one of my younger cousins. Fine book.

>> No.10520685

>inner experience of a girl growing into a woman
From the perspective of the dude inside her or her perspective? What do you mean by "inner"?

>> No.10520707

>>10518921
How to Build a Girl by Caitlin Moran for modern middle class females
Everyone needs to read The Second Sex
The Diary of Anne Frank is a really good rec too

>> No.10520718

>>10518921
>Any book that depicts perfectly the inner experience of a boy growing into a woman?

>> No.10520768

Lacan Seminar XX.

>> No.10520774

>>10518921
>jewposting
kys nigger

>> No.10520777
File: 27 KB, 326x499, 41jfTJzX0xL._SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10520777

Don't read this if you have a purity complex and seeing a sweet little girl grow into a woman who gets used like a whore will disturb you.

>> No.10520792

>>10520777
Is it good though?

>> No.10520797

>>10520718
any rec about this, lads?

>> No.10520804

>>10520774
>nigger
Why the racism?

>> No.10520809

>>10520792
Alice Munro Is probably the best female short story writer still alive. Lives of Girls and Women is a pretty good novel.

>> No.10520838

>>10520809
nice i'll check her out asap

>> No.10520843

Kristin Lavransdatter

>> No.10520907

The Bell Jar

>> No.10520918

>>10520662
Back to /R/eddit with your punctuation and boomer posting

>> No.10520930

>>10520809
>The best female
Tried one of her stories and it bored me to tears (this is coming from a leaf)
Any recs on something by her that won't make me want to hang myself? Is your pic a good place to start?

>> No.10520977

>>10520930

>Wild Swans
>Powers
>Dimensions

These are some "interesting" stories in that they are about rare and violent happenings. In general she's a boring, comfy writer though (I say this as praise). If the inner lives of unremarkable people don't interest you, you can probably skip her.

>> No.10521013

>>10520843
This is a really good book

>> No.10521120

>>10518925
This honestly, Lolita is already a woman at 13. Nabokovs book Ada as well.

>> No.10521138

>>10521120
Lolita in no way depicts any inner life of the girl and she never gets to become a proper woman anyway. He pretty much stunts her

>> No.10521144 [DELETED] 

>>10521120
>quotes b8 unironically

>> No.10521294
File: 137 KB, 1178x362, Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 1.29.47 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521294

>>10518921
women are internally identical to children

>> No.10521352

>>10518921
The Voyage Out by Woolf was about this. I haven't read her other fiction but I imagine she might have similar works.

>> No.10521368

>>10519967
>He isn't yet jaded enough to find jokes pointless
newfag spotted

>> No.10521374

>>10521352
She does indeed have similar works. The Waves is a good place to start.

>> No.10521377

I asked a real female for this book and she suggested Judy Bloom's

"Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret."

>> No.10521400

>im bad at makeup
>my breasts arent large enough
>now they are but im fat
>everything sucks
>now im a slut for some reason
>everything is alright now but i still lack personal value
>my sex drive has plummeted so its time to be modest/witholding and get a job or something
>im an adult now so i should probably find a husband who makes a lot of money to have lots of babbies with before the old coochie dries up
>i had lots of babbies


Thats about all i got

>> No.10521408

>>10520718
Underrated

>> No.10521420

>>10521400
>im old and i have lost all value
>saggy, wrinkly, sad
>no real hobbies but i work and i watch tv when i get home
>i clean i cook and im there for you
>i dont have much and even if you hurt me i will always love you

>> No.10521458

The one I'm writing

>> No.10521649

>>10521400
>you only receive attention as a child when you cry, so you do, often. you stop when you start to notice your mother rolling her eyes
>your girlhood happiness ends at age 8 when one of your fathers' friends tells you how pretty your hair is and strokes it and you cry and everyone laughs. you learn that your pain is a joke
>you briefly but totally abandon your authentic self, which you will never recover, as you first experimentally minimize yourself between ages 10-13
>you suffer ceaseless body horror as you watch your body stretch and tear in ways that you can understand only as pathological
>because it seems people hate everything you like, you learn to pace things just right, so that you hate them almost before you even really like them
>time becomes telescopic. you lucidly relate to yourself as a young girl and vividly anticipate yourself as an older woman. you're optimistic, maybe for years. you begin to feel the flutters of something maternal, somewhere near your liver
>you find a man you can see yourself being with, really being with. you tell your friends you might get married. he fucks another woman. you're still young, but she's younger
>you date someone else. you have a pregnancy scare, but you kill it. you don't tell him. you break up with him because of it, but you tell him it's because you are studying abroad and can't do the distance
>you date someone else. you're tired. he reminds you of a boy you used to like, which you guess is enough for you now. you get pregnant
>you have his kid, or two of them. he gets a vasectomy. he tests it out on his coworker. you stay together, for the kids
>now that you have children, you can't seem to recall that you ever were one yourself. you make all the wrong choices. they tell you they hate you. they suck up to their pervert father. you tell yourself it's okay, that as long as you keep them alive, you're doing okay
>it's your birthday. you are older than your mother was when she had you
>you start rolling your eyes and yelling at grocery clerks. you can feel yourself going insane, but you also feel girlishly helpless. you don't recognize your face in the mirror or your hands in front of your face. you are tired, so tired
>your mother dies. you can finally articulate what you meant to say to her this whole time. you mouth "sorry" as you cry silently, in the bed where you made your children. you are not sure who you are apologizing to
>your daughter has children of her own. you believe, inexplicably, that everything will turn out okay for her
>you die. at your funeral, strangers gossip about the intensity of your blush

>> No.10521676

>>10521649
jesus man. im gonna go to bed now

>> No.10521718
File: 196 KB, 900x900, 1514344897001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521718

>>10521649
Girls are mentally incompetent. I've spent a lot of time around 13-16 years old, and they really choose the obviously dumb and damaging path 99 times out of 10 being fully aware of the outcome, and having good alternatives laid out and explained to them. For example the "abandon your true character" idea is so retarded to a me, and to every other man I've talked to about it. It makes no sense. You are yourself, most people like you, some people don't. Men: Fuck those people, you're doing fine. Girl: I must transform myself into a shallow imitation of what I perceive as an average female personality, alienating everyone who truly likes me, in order to somewhat reduce the number of people who hate me for no good reason, sacrificing all my relationships and the chance of ever making a meaningful connection with anyone ever again.

There's something very, very wrong with their brains. Virtually all their problems are caused by their own cognitive disability.

>> No.10521731

>>10521649
Holy shit

>> No.10521735
File: 1.69 MB, 1920x1080, MASTERPIECE.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521735

>>10521649
>>10521718
>For example the "abandon your true character" idea

Wait is this actually a thing? Does it have an actual term?

>> No.10521746
File: 14 KB, 640x480, 1497985545225.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521746

>>10521649
I uh...

>> No.10521764

>>10521649
(you)

>> No.10521772

>>10521649

Best post on /lit/ in my fucking time on the site. Well done.

>> No.10521794
File: 204 KB, 920x1140, tumblr_ovcz6dE0h81u1g5cko1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521794

>>10521718
you are so boring. yes, normalizing tendencies are sad and stupid, but humans are koinophilic. we rely highly on the assumption of mutual experience to cultivate comfort and safety. deviations from normalcy are not only unattractive, they are scary. and the idea of scaring people-or, extrapolating, of being cast out from the group-is utterly horrifying from the female perspective.

the reality of femininity is that women are weak; not as a flaw, but as an immutable biological fact. their survival, the continuance of their physical self, is contingent on their attachment to the group, because they rely on others for help. so the idea of female self-erasure, of abandonment of the "true self" in pursuit of acceptance by the group, is absurd. it doesn't make any sense. because womanhood predicates on acceptance. women exist only in relation to each other. and there is no value to be assigned to it. it isn't a bad thing.

you can be a misogynist and still be interesting. you should try harder.

>> No.10521821
File: 20 KB, 462x434, 1513042062002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521821

>>10521794
You must be 18 years old to post here. At least stay on /pol/ where the other ebin edgy children are until then.

>> No.10521839
File: 63 KB, 603x604, 1508655965153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521839

>>10521649
Damn

>> No.10521843

>>10518926
feet or GTFO

>> No.10521900

>>10518921
Kristen Lavransdatter does that, very realistically.

>> No.10521912

>>10521649
That's so goddamn depressing.

>> No.10521917
File: 36 KB, 852x480, 11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10521917

>>10521912
"she pays the debt of life not by what she does, but by what she suffers"

>> No.10521996

>>10521649
it was interesting up until the point where it just becomes a sad saga of poor life choices and implicit misandry

>> No.10522067

>>10521120
this must be bait or you have just never read lolita? she's a not a woman and that's like the entire point of it man. she's just a little girl that ends up sexually retarded. it never shows anything from her point of view either. humbert likes to excuse himself with notions of her sexual precociousness, but she never really understands what any of it means and ends up a shell of a girl.

>> No.10522071

>>10522067
I just looked up lolita and apparently the girl is 12? I thought she would be like 6 or something. There's nothing wrong with a relationship with a 12 year old.

>> No.10522097

>>10522067
Lolita was a sexual weirdo before she met him. She had had sex regularly at 12 years old.

>> No.10522102

>>10522097
She had sex for the first time in camp, before he picked her up and afterwards molested her, but after they met.

>> No.10522103

>>10522102
Didn't she fuck that kid she hangs out with while he lives with them?

>> No.10522109

>>10521794
10/10 This guy/girl gets it. There is a lot of mutability in young females, where boys might instead fight or argue. Men have better outcomes while competing, and women do when working as a group. Women are better at navigating and manipulating through social dynamics and part of being better at it means not ostracizing themselves.

>> No.10522110

>>10522103
Hmm, possibly? It's been a while. Can you find the excerpt?

>> No.10522112

>>10522110
No, it's been a while too and I think it was only mentioned in passing much later in the book.

>> No.10522130

>>10522071
>>10522097
Please read the book this is so so embarrassing, do you think every scholars interpretation of it is that much off the mark? It's also told from the pov of a very untrustworthy narrator that spends lot of time trying to justify what he's doing, and drives himself crazy with it. He's also supposed to be her father figure.

>> No.10522156

>>10519967
>i was just pretending to be retarded!

>> No.10522205

>>10521735
Memeing

>> No.10522212

>>10522071
Yea nothing wrong with a grown man, supposed father figure, running away with and trying to sexually possess and control a 12 year old girl when her mother dies. That girl totally has a chance of growing up to be a well adjusted. No different than her experimenting and discovering her sexuality with kids her own age at all. Hopefully she doesn't get pregnant since historically the maternal mortality rate for mothers that young has been so high.

>> No.10522229

>>10518926
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

>> No.10522451

>>10520918
Hey! Your li'l rinse wash repeat 'brickbat'? (You) can thrust that up your mother's 'arse', retard. Back to /pol/

>> No.10522470

>>10521649
>you tell your friends you might get married.
Nope. Maybe 50 years ago.

>> No.10523059

>>10521649
Am I autistic or just not used to the phrasing here? I get the suppression of authentic self going on as a girl in order to fit in, and though I don't know why it becomes so pervasive I guess there are extreme cases where an individual's environment expects them to be totally inauthentic like a la Victorian England. I also understand the idle fantasizing about the distant future, that's often the only thing children can do in hopeless situations.

Beyond that though what is honestly going on with this woman? is she just incredibly unlucky with men or does her depression make all of her mates want to fuck someone more feminine? Why does she kill her baby the first time but passively accept bearing children the third time? Why does she care so much about being older than her mother on her birthday (ptsd from getting cheated on the first time?)? Why is she sorry towards her mother when she dies (i really don't get this)? and why do people gossip about the intensity of her blush?

I have answers for most of these questions but they don't really satisfy me because I still don't understand all the (you)s saying this punched them in the gut. Forgive me if I'm ruining the atmosphere but I had a miserable childhood too and want to know why this female never seemed to have developed a sense of humor or any sort of self awareness that could've helped her make her way out of her misery, at least partially.

>> No.10523073

>>10523059
I'm not trying to patronize either, though the last line might make it seem that way. I figure that if I can't understand her intuitively, I can try to dissect her brain a little bit and reach at least a mechanical understanding. Maybe that's disrespectful too but I genuinely want to know what is making people have such strong reactions to this post.

>> No.10523078

>>10521649
good stuff

>> No.10523686

>>10521649
>People cheat on you
>People call you pretty
>Sad because everyone you want to date dates you
>You get older and die and people don't care about you much afterwards
>Depressing female existence

>People cheat on you
>People call you ugly
>Sad because no one you want to date dates you
>You get older and die and people don't care about you much afterwards
>Privileged male existence

>> No.10524030

>>10521649
As a catch all for every womans experience,particuarly now with more and more people remaining single meh

But as a glimpse into the average life of your average American woman circa. 1950-2010 pretty fucking true and horrifying

>> No.10524093

>>10521649
you a bird or bloke, anon?

>> No.10524134

>>10518921
Who's she? I have a student that look just like her but much yonger

>> No.10524140

>>10518921
Alice in wonderland. you cant get it in a better way.

>> No.10524148

>>10524134
Looks*

>> No.10524170
File: 203 KB, 2016x582, Screen Shot 2018-01-10 at 10.33.05 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10524170

>>10523059
keep in mind that this is a distillation of an entire life into a few scant lines. some things aren't present. and it, like the post to which it is a response, illustrates the trials of a life and not the joys of it.

but assuming you realized both of these facts, on your own, i think your skepticism is as simple as a lack of earnest life experience with women. for instance: having two men cheat on you over the course of your life is not 'unlucky'. if anything, it's way below average. and men do far worse things than cheat, but the post is intentionally general so it doesn't include specific trauma. and the girls her men cheated with were not more feminine than her. men do callous and evil things most often for the sake of novelty, not for personal enrichment

two different pregnancies by two different men at two different times in your life will eventuate two different strategies, this part seems obvious. women have a disorienting relationship with aging and maturity because they are valued for their netoeny. surpassing the age at which your mother had you is a benchmark for your own mortality, or a confirmation that you have grown out of your extrafamilial value

she isn't sorry toward her mother, at least not explicitly. it says exactly as much: "you are not sure who you are apologizing to." she could have been a better daughter and she could have been a better mother and a better wife and a better person. maybe she is sorry for her mother, or her kids, or her husband, or herself. maybe it is that she did wrong by them or just that she could have done better. it really doesn't matter

she isn't depressed....she doesn't have ptsd...she isn't mentally ill. she is just a normal person. that's the point. there is a deep sadness endemic to the female experience

>>10523686
i could not be less interested in the awful life that you undoubtedly deserve

>> No.10524194

>>10521649
The funny thing is that women actually think that this is an awful life. I'd kill for such an existence and I know quite a few who would, also.

I'd consider this "making it" and she didn't have to do anything for it.

>> No.10524196

>>10521649
This was good up to you describing the finding a man part. Then it felt like issues of a certain pathological normie slut.

>> No.10524236

>>10524170
Muck are you a guy or grill? Just interested. This isn't the first time you've conversed on women and I'm sure I remember you explicitly saying women suffer more than men.

>> No.10524295

I was wondering why so many women cut themselves, and then I found the answer:

>Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

>> No.10524348

>>10518921
Songs of bilitis - Pierre Louys

>> No.10524382

>>10518926
>woman

>> No.10524406

>>10524170
Thanks for the reply, cleared up . I'll admit that I have zero experience with women because I myself am a lonely and avoidant person. I'm also not a very sexual person and (I like to think) too self aware to enjoy novelty for its own sake, so I guess I don't understand the men who cheat on her either. Honestly I'm 19, have never had anything close to a full relationship with other people so all this is foreign territory for me. You seem slightly offended or at least exhausted by my lack of understanding so there's my explanation - not that I'm seeking forgiveness just want to clear up misunderstandings.

Anyway I think what you're saying is true in a limited context - there were plenty of women who suffered like your character and plenty of men who helped inflict that suffering on the women in their lives - but I wouldn't make such broad, essentialist conclusions about the genders. The kind of female self surpression and male callousness is the kind of thing which only the most Anglicized modernist societies could produce. There are plenty of happy women in traditional societies who find a meaningful place as a young girl and a mother and grandmother later in life. There are also plenty of young women in postmodern society who feel compelled to be a sterile career woman because they need to be "empowered" and end up lonely and depressed. Just my two cents.

>> No.10524416

>>10524406
*cleared up what I was unsure of

>> No.10524588

>>10519022
What do mean Anon; I have never read the book?

>> No.10524599

>>10521649

>>10521400
This was me. Though my shallow perspective of the female gender was emphasized for sake of irony, your story has shown me greater understanding of female adversity.

Here's what this is like from our frame of reference:

>Everything is warm loving and carefree
>At first you feel an innate attachment to the matriarch, as your father is unforgiving in attempt to set a proper example, fearing demonstration of love or empathy as he considers these things weak and effeminate, and your mother feels she has to compensate with extra affection
>You learn very quickly that you are different from women, as you are thrown into lion's den at age 3 and expected to fend for your own among peers
>You're forced to be a detestable wolf in the pack or a sheep who falls victim to those who chose the prior before you even hugged your parents goodbye
>Your lack of social know how isn't obvious at first, until the age of 10 where group projects become mandatory, and you haven't talked to anyone in your class 6 months into the semester because they all despised and berated you for being sheltered and unusual
>You then withdraw and wait for someone to save you from the outskirts of the social support system to which you are a pareiad, because the man you idolized for working 12 hours a day to pull his family out of a dirt poor country, giving up his own dreams for your sake, has turned into an aggressive tyrant, abusing you and your mother for not being good enough, displaying a projection of his own insecurities as a cry for help that no one is hearing and you won't even understand for another 10 years.
>It's your birthday and your mom buys you exactly what you want again, bideo games
>You can't escape the stressful reality you've been forced to endure from the age of 4 and substitute online gaming for the actual human interaction you crave
>You start high school and learn very quickly that a man's value is comes from the number of women he is able to court, and a stoicism in the face of any challenge
>You know one of these things is unattainable so you block out your feelings to appear cold and removed
>Miraculously though, you obtain a girlfriend
>You have no idea how you got her, or that you're going to lose her, but she's the bright spot in your miserable existence and that's all that matters
>You find out you were a rebound that it wasn't supposed to last more than a week
>You drop out of school because your mother is now as stress inducing as your father and you've been staying up until 4 in the morning playing Mario Kart every night because you can't during the day without fear of someone bursting into your bedroom to berate you for every mistake they can find in a thinly veiled venting of one's own dismay at their own disappointment in the outcomes of this reality and fear that you're going to be just as unhappy as they are now
>You get a job at a warehouse
>You get an apartment

>> No.10524616

>>10524170
Women cheat all the time though. And usually with the explicit intention of embarrassing their SO.

>> No.10524623

>>10524599
cont.

>You drink when youre not asleep or working
>You find a woman who loves you for your money
>You want to leave but she's pregnant and doesn't want to have an abortion
>She was on the pill
>You won't abandon him
>You have 3 more kids that you can't afford
>They grow up wanting and you do everything you can to fix it but you hate your wife and have no friends and she's poisoned your own children against you so that if you do leave she gets custody
>You're still alone and work 75% of the week so your wife can stay at home and watch the kids and sleep 5 hours every night because you don't want to drink in front of your kids
>You leave her once they go to college and grow old alone, dying not not having seen your own children in 10 years
>No one shows up to your funeral

>> No.10524625

>>10524599
>>Miraculously though, you obtain a girlfriend
>>You have no idea how you got her, or that you're going to lose her, but she's the bright spot in your miserable existence and that's all that matters
>>You find out you were a rebound that it wasn't supposed to last more than a week
Pretty much every guy has this trauma, usually multiple times. Why this is considered funny instead of tragic is beyond me.

>> No.10524904

>>10524134
Agatha Sullivan

>> No.10525102

jane eyre

book fucking sucks btw

>> No.10525176
File: 51 KB, 500x414, yes-hey-faggot-are-you-enjoying-your-music-you-fucking-975464.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525176

>>10524599
Joke's on you, I quit my warehouse job and have a data entry job

>> No.10525233

>>10524599
>>10524623
Joke's on you fags, I took the MGTOW pill.

>> No.10525267

>>10525233
This is unnecessary, this whole thread is chalk full of gender discrimination due to individual bias. There are bad people, not genders. I tried my best to point out flaws and strengths in both sexes for a reason, while maintaining clarity of my bias.

>> No.10525278

>>10524599
*are a pariah

>> No.10525298
File: 42 KB, 712x535, niles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525298

>>10518921
>sexy Agatha
>mfw I never have and never will date a young Maris

>> No.10525332

>>10524599
this makes me really glad that my gf is crazy about me

>> No.10525340

>>10524599
>>10524623
Almost none of this happened to me.

>> No.10525396

>>10524134
threemilk

>> No.10525418
File: 119 KB, 798x118, Screen Shot 2017-12-28 at 8.23.06 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525418

>>10524599
>>10524623
let's burn it all down, anon. there is nothing for us here

>> No.10525432

>>10525332
I fucked your girlfriend six times.

>> No.10525438

why is it so difficult to recognize women's strengths as strengths? fuck man both men and women evolved to complement the other sex and work together. has no one seen the way a woman can keep a family together and navigate peace within it? or seen the emotional intelligence of a woman when she's in care mode?

t. soyboy with amazing wife and mom

>> No.10525446
File: 5 KB, 250x236, wtfcatepillarAntstory.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525446

>>10525432

>> No.10525451

>>10525438
nigga your gay

>> No.10525465

>>10525451
i do like anal

>> No.10525622
File: 485 KB, 1280x2233, 1489566835188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525622

>> No.10525640

>>10525622
Only if she's a qt though. Same for a boi if he can make some decent money. It's only a problem because there's no personal achievement in being born beautiful, so it feels unfair to the boys. don't hate the women for it they just want to get by and be loved too. sour grapes man.

>> No.10525655

>>10525622
How is this relevant to this thread?

>> No.10525663

>>10525438
it's only because the women in your life have been emotionally crushed into submission to a phony sense of order that's, in reality, always on the edge of breaking. you only want to believe they can because they try to (and ultimately don't), so yeah your mom+wife are cucking you out of true enlightenment

>> No.10525716
File: 66 KB, 700x700, kendrig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525716

>>10518921
wait, this is my agatha? I haven't seen her since she stopped making youtube videos. I don't know what to think about this.

>> No.10525722

>>10525663
our modern day sense of order is only on the edge of breaking because we weren't meant to exist in communities so large that social ostracism means nothing. it would break completely if not for women, don't try to deny that. a woman doesn't have to be emotionally crushed into submission and that's only difficult for you to understand because you're not a woman, does a man need to be emotionally crushed into a masculine role? not taking the cuckb8

>> No.10525814

>>10518921
Any book that depicts perfectly the inner experience of being a jew?

>> No.10525866

>>10521649
gay

>> No.10525870

>>10525716
why she stop making youtube vidoes fren

>> No.10525879
File: 27 KB, 317x474, 41E3KHQXFKL._SX315_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525879

>>10525814

>> No.10525920

>>10521794
jesus this is even MORE patronizing. hahaha what a faggot.

>> No.10525930
File: 479 KB, 1024x640, agathass2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525930

>>10525716
Think about what anon? She's the same as always

>> No.10525941
File: 448 KB, 656x668, 1514962515233.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525941

>>10525930
delet that now

>> No.10525942

>>10524170
you're kind of a try hard moron filled with assumptions about others and lack of a real phenomenology aided by deep introspection in the view of another helping you.

but way to be the expert lol

>> No.10525947

>>10525722
in the hypothetical alternative reality where we managed to remain in small close-knit communities, women would be even less useful and would likely be little more than designated objects by default. and yes men do need to be emotionally crushed into masculine roles. its like a military hallmark.

>> No.10525951

>>10525930
>>10525941
thanks for exposing your waifu to the masses, driving to her house to fuck her now ;)

>> No.10525954
File: 843 KB, 1232x770, Agatha Reaction (302).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525954

>>10525951
No.

>> No.10525963
File: 1.31 MB, 1024x640, rare.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525963

>>10525951
That's my fetish

>> No.10525964

>>10525947
>and yes men do need to be emotionally crushed into masculine roles

I actually like being manly, stoic, and relied upon, without a hint of irony or desire for relief. I like it when soft girls sink into my hard muscles.

You /lit/ people need to lay off the soy.

>> No.10525966
File: 2.61 MB, 340x370, Agatha Reaction (17).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525966

>>10525963
Are you on discord?

>> No.10525969

>>10525964
you dont even realize how emotionally crushed you are. possibly out of stupidity.

>> No.10525973
File: 1.51 MB, 852x480, rare lewd.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525973

>>10525954
>>10525963
>>10525966

>> No.10525975

Brooklyn by Colm Toibin

>> No.10525978

>>10525973
best post ITT
>>10525966
No.

>> No.10525980
File: 19 KB, 375x374, 1514780221281.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10525980

>>10525951
Just try it goy

>> No.10526006

>>10525954
Well at least Agatha is balding faster than I am.

>> No.10526009

>>10524170
>two men cheating on you is below average
Either this is a bait post, or you are an ugly fucking whore, and I don't mean ugly on the outside, I mean ugly on the inside. There's nothing more disgusting than self pity and bitterness. I know this isn't a woman's problem because I know many good hearted woman in my life. People like your character are fucked up, like most fucked up people, because they enjoy being fucked up.

>> No.10526024

>>10521649

>your girlhood happiness ends at age 8 when one of your fathers' friends tells you how pretty your hair is and strokes it and you cry and everyone laughs.
this disturbs me deeply and im a guy

starts off really strong but then trails off & seems less human / relatable past the first boyfriend

im guessing because that's how old you are??

where do i find more like this, i dont understand a girl's struggle at all

>> No.10526026

>>10526024
idk maybe read things that women wrote i think a couple of women may have written some things

>> No.10526030

>>10526024
I want to point out that that reaction is not normal and most girls don't live like that. To begin with, most get not ignored by their parents unless they cry.

>> No.10526032

>>10526024
I'm pretty sure that whole post was written by a mentally ill tranny pretending he understands what it's like to be a woman. Otherwise it's disturbing af.

>> No.10526037

>>10526032
keep telling yourself that as if being human itself isnt a disturbing experience. did you know a lot of girls get abused at an early age and dont tell anyone, not even people on 4chan?

>> No.10526038

a woman has many lives:
-the infant woman
-the menstruating woman
-the deflowered woman
-the married woman
-the pregnant woman
-the menopausal woman
-the grandmother woman
-the old& widow woman

the last life of a woman is the one equivalent to the life of a man

>> No.10526041

>>10520718
the danish girl

>> No.10526047

>>10526037
having someone tell you your hair is pretty and stroking it isn't abuse in any way. Having two men cheat on you is a sign that something is wrong with you personally in that you choose people who aren't suitable for you, that goes for men or women. And I also notice that anon makes no mention of female friendships, which no normal girl would forget. This seems like some fucked up mentally ill chick, not the normal female experience.

>> No.10526048

>>10526037
Do you know that shit happens to men too, but the vast majority of people don't go insane over it?

>> No.10526063

>>10521794
jesus fuck this post makes me love my aspie gf even more than I already do. What a disgusting life normie girls live.

>> No.10526072

>>10526047
You're a faggot

>> No.10526095

>>10525947
we actually have a lot of evidence from the paleolithic to neolithic ages that shows otherwise. please go read anything up to date on early human history it really is fascinating. men and women worked together to progress, with agriculture being one of the biggest catalysts for hypermasculinity. the need to defend and all that. in the paleolithic age humans were starting to live longer so there were grandmothers to help with childcare and that freed the younger women to contribute more outside of childrearing. women gathered food and water while men hunted, made art, clothes, etc. all with a child on their tit. women and men work well together.

also the military is completely artificial in its hierarchy, that's the only reason it takes mental submission. without the trappings the job, some older dude that we have no personal connection to wouldn't be yelling commands at us and be met with submission! it's the other masculine characteristics like the desire to protect and to compete, to seek immediate solutions etc. that are innate

>> No.10526099
File: 15 KB, 714x66, I AM SO PROUD THAT US WHITE PEOPLE INVENTED READING AND WRITING.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526099

>>10526024
>im guessing because that's how old you are??
sure, the first half is mostly based on my feelings/observations of friends, latter half is entirely observation of my elder family members

i think it's a struggle to find good, earnest meditations on womanhood. it's a pet peeve of mine because it is done so poorly so constantly. male attempts to explain it are understandably pointless, but i think women are incapable of writing about themselves honestly. or if they can think about themselves honestly. but the only way to understand a person, female or male, is to observe and contemplate them candidly over a long period of time. so it looks like you're gonna have to get a gf

>> No.10526155

>>10521649
Listen you fucking disgusting 1 bit whore (I call yo 1 bit and not two bit because women only have 1 bit that matters, their loose little cunt, yours is so loose that a slight tug would see it come off your body altogether but I digress)-

This is a fucking BOYS CLUB. A FUCKING LADS BAR. A FUCKING SOCIETY OF SANDWICH EATERS. A BAND OF FUCKING BROTHERS, A BAND OF FUCKING BLOKES, AND A BAND OF BIG TOUGH BASTARDS, WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT WOMEN ENOUGH TO EVEN FUCKING FUCK THEM, LET ALONE FUCKING SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THEM WHINE ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T BELONG HERE AND NEVER FUCKING WILL.

You are not welcome here. Nobody wants you here. You come to this board and what do you see? Men discussing the ACHIEVEMENTS OF MEN. Nobody has ever come to this board and made a thread a female for anything other than mocking and laughing. We talk about men here. We worship men here. We praise men. We are inspired by men. I don't want to hear your fucking Muculent cunt lips slapping together, still trying to get down the last of the cum that some fucking back alley stick waving iceman shot over them. No. I want to talk Pynchon, or Joyce, or Homer, or Hegel. You know what all these men have in common? They fuck women. But they hate women. I hate women. /lit/ hates woman. I know that as I type this I have all of /lit/ standing behind me, chucking their penises into the air in triumph, as we say

FUCK OFF WOMEN
FUCK OFF YOU WHORE
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING BITCH
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
STAND BEHIND ME MY BROTHERS.

>> No.10526164
File: 291 KB, 720x540, 1479682418955.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526164

>>10525969
Yes, it must be my stupid-person psychic barrier whereby I interpret events with the greatest internal locus of responsibility and the smallest amount of paranoia possible.

The enlightened went on to saddle themselves with debt to be able to go internalize their professor's lectures about the vast dehumanization conspiracy.

>>10526024
>i dont understand a girl's struggle at all
If you had even a microgram of testosterone in your body you would know that such a thing is undesirable. Most women don't want their men to be women.

You should desire a mate who is able to solve their own personal problems. She should want you to do the same. In fact, she doesn't want or need your help at all, especially not the misandrists who write soppy women's narratives, so what exactly do you gain out of reading it?

There's someone out there for everyone, though, so if you read enough women's lit to turn into an even bigger vagina I'm unironically positive that some liberal arts pixie will deign to let you lick her heels and hold her Sephora shopping bags

>> No.10526172

>>10526164
right ok thanks

back to reality

>> No.10526181

>>10526164
>In fact, she doesn't want or need your help at all, especially not the misandrists who write soppy women's narratives, so what exactly do you gain out of reading it?

lmfao
sometimes i forget no-one on /lit/ actually cares about reading books

>> No.10526192
File: 1.06 MB, 1054x1754, 1506573076158.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526192

>>10518921
STOP BUMPING THIS THREAD, THIS IMAGE MAKES ME UNREASONABLY UPSET. I CAN'T LOOK AWAY, NOR CAN I LOOK AT IT STRAIGHT ON. IT IS A BLINDING LIGHT. IT IS CALLING ME, OH IT IS CALLING ME.

>> No.10526195

>>10526192
same desu :(

>> No.10526200

>>10526181
Ignoring the fact that I was talking about a subset of books and not the set of all books (you certainly did), what exactly is the purpose of internalizing something that is invariably counter-productive?

>>10526172
Your effete, girly snark brushes off my hairy chest like a lavender-scented zephyr

>> No.10526216

>>10526192
She looks literally jewish desu.

>> No.10526220

>>10526095
so basically youre telling me that men evolved superiority by necessity (as they were supposed to) while women lurked at home where they mimicked their husbands' arts and basically reduced their mental capacities in order to more easily relate to children?

all hierarchies are pretty superficial. its a mutual dependence thing that makes the army work. we just have too many options now so it's hard to tell.

tldr you sound smart but are dumb sorry

>> No.10526224

>>10526155
FUCK OFF WOMEN
FUCK OFF YOU WHORE
FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING BITCH
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
STAND BEHIND ME MY BROTHERS.

>> No.10526249

>>10526099
Well there's plenty of great female writing about feeling stifled! It really is near impossible to write honestly as a woman. I'm fairly certain that if I could ever really write honestly I'd lose a lot of people in my life I care about. There's no way to expose that level self awareness and not look like a complete phony.

We are just so manipulative, I don't really mean that negatively but you know how it sounds.
Last week my husband got yelled at and hit at work in front of a lot of people and had to bitch down so it didn't escalate further. He came home from work emasculated and cranky, maybe even a tiny bit mean, but I pretended not to notice and proceeded to manipulate him into feeling like a man again over the next hour or two. Laughing about how pathetic the guy who pissed him off is, making him feel like his stoicism meant he got one over on the guy, asking his advice on random stuff - he loves to give advice and this always works really well to get him feeling confident and enthused again. He got into bed late and his work day was creeping back on him, he was dreading going back to work in the morning, so I gave him a massage in bed while I rambled about a book I was reading until he got distracted and fell asleep. When he was tossing and turning an hour or two later I woke him up because I was "just so horny", and got him to a good sleep that way. Really I had a bad headache and wasn't horny at all.
Next morning I left a sweet note in with his lunch and kept finding excuses to call him throughout the day, "do you know where x is" kind of crap and every time we ended up chatting and he sounds cheerier by the end of each call. By the time he got home he just said it "wasn't nearly as bad as he thought it'd be, just a little awkward". The way he hangs on to that kind of shit he would have been miserable and dragging his feet at work for like a week and I can't stand to see him like that, he also misses sleep when he's stressed.
So I made him believe the incident wasn't a big deal and that I thought it so absurd that someone could make him look like a bitch and that everyone else was embarrassed for the other guy making a fool of himself. I do actually believe all of this but it's kind of irrelevant since I'd still act that way if I didn't. My real reaction was anger, and I fantasized about ways to get the guy in more trouble at work and ran through a little speech in my head where I told him off good lol. I hid all of that though ofc.

I am horribly manipulative and phony, no matter how you look at it. It doesn't matter why I'm doing it. I am fake fake fake. I dont even know how to not be. I really do feel like my greatest value is my capacity to manipulate the people I love. It makes them happy. That's why some femaleshate each other so much, when a girl knows exactly what she's doing and she's all an act, we know. Men don't - unless they're horribly obvious, especially if they're attractive.

>> No.10526251

>>10526155
b-bbut my safe space guys

>> No.10526257

>>10526037
Did you know a lot of humans get abused at an early age and dont tell anyone, not even people on 4chan?

People fucking suffer man, it's not just one gender. Fuck off

>> No.10526274
File: 12 KB, 444x44, Epistemophobia Information.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526274

>>10526155
joyce and hegel were both women

>>10526249
>I am fake fake fake. I dont even know how to not be. I really do feel like my greatest value is my capacity to manipulate the people I love.
love this—i don't relate to it inasmuch as i recognize the behavior myself but i think of my frankness as masculine and inconvenient

>>10526257
>People fucking suffer man, it's not just one gender.
do i need to walk you through the irony here

>> No.10526281

>>10519077
H E A V I N G
E
A
V
I
N
G
B R E A S T S
R
E
A
S
T
S

>> No.10526291

>>10526274
>do i need to walk you through the irony here
Damn, that really makes me a big ol' dummy doesn't it? Doesn'it damn? Sheeeit man you caught me. Oh the irony!

>> No.10526292

>>10521843
This, desu

>> No.10526307

>>10526220
if you valued childrearing or emotional intelligence over physical strength you'd call women superior. you don't value those things the same because our values were instilled by men, with force. women weren't lurking at home, they were raising our children and keeping a home for us lmao. they are the reason men have been able to devote so much time with shit like philosophy, exploration, but even though it's a joint effort you don't want to share achievements with women. where mens achievements are superior they've done so on the backs of women

>> No.10526321

>>10525298
underrated post

Maris > Daphne = Roz > Mels

>> No.10526324

>>10525622
fuck that graffiti! all the thots glorify it and it still hasn't been painted over, it pisses me off every time i walk by it.

>> No.10526328
File: 38 KB, 650x650, aXm9330xjU.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526328

>>10521649
I get so sad when I think about this in relation to a girl I really fell in love with, she is so bright and yet life wears her down so much. She also wants to have kids (most likely never with me). I just want her to be happy.

>> No.10526345

>>10522212
>well-adjusted
According to what, who?
Fuck off statecuck

>> No.10526361

>>10526345
Prolly well adjusted as in won't abuse her own children or let them be abused or stay in an abusive relationship herself. Prolly won't look for self worth in anything but sex blah blah u get the picture.

>> No.10526379

>>10526249
Honestly you just sound like an adorable woman, you think you're manipulative and phony but actually you care so much about him that you suffer and play pretend just to make him feel good. I admire this greatly and I hope I will find a woman who I want to do this for.

>> No.10526391 [DELETED] 

>>10526379
No you dont

>> No.10526410

>>10526249
This is legitimately terrifying. It sickens me how practiced you are at deluding people.

>> No.10526464
File: 159 KB, 1080x1350, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526464

>>10526410
I know people like that who also have borderline and will use their powers to gaslight """friends""" and basically make random people around them as miserable as possible for no reason while fronting to be their best friend. If you're lucky, they are too unstable to stay subtle and will sperg out so hard that nobody can deny they are evil incarnate, but many are too well for that.

It took me years but now I'm extremely skilled at spotting those people, but it's virtually impossible to convince people of the truth. "They are so sweet, and you're this boring weirdo, you're just being autistic, analyzing people with such detail. My gut tells me they are great."
And then they get fucked over. And they still crawl back the second the manipulator acts friendly again. This is not exclusively a female pathology, but I think it's an intensification of essentially female behaviour and uncommon in men. The men I know who do it are also generally far less skilled at it and rarely succeed with girls who aren't children or severely mentally ill, whereas the women can do it to almost anyone they want to.

>> No.10526501

>>10526361
You sound like a cunt

>> No.10526523

>>10526464
How do I become skilled at perceiving manipulation?

>> No.10526572

>this thread
I hope you understand hating or despising or conspiring against half the human population is only making you more miserable than you should be.

Looking at biology in general, especially in mammals, it's apparent that there's no species with a superior and inferior sex. This is even clearer when it comes to intelligence: there's no reason for one sex within a single (sub)species to have evolved to be smarter than the other. It just doesn't happen - not even by accident - since it doesn't benefit anyone involved and there's no mechanism to pass it onto only children of the same sex.

Take a step back every now and then and think about the views you hold. You'll be stunted if you're seeking conformity within an echo chamber consisting of similarly damaged people.

>> No.10526613

>>10526249
>>10526410
>>10526274
It's funny how you pose that as the feat of some evil genius. That's isn't manipulation, it's consolation and everyone does it. Even children. I tried my best at that as a little boy as I was taught and often succeeded since it's a very basic human interaction all over the world and the other person is usually cooperative. It's no secret, people know you're just making them feel better about something and it feels nice so they seek it out even when they don't really need it.

>> No.10526722

>>10526523
By being around mentally ill people and being on the receiving end up various kinds of emotional abuse by various kinds of people for a couple years. You also need to be smart and have a truth seeking character, otherwise you will just develop issues with your self image, anxiety and paranoia. Well, you will develop those before you figure it out, but after it should go away again.

It's the best to just stay away from crazy persons, especially if they appear to be really friendly and charming. Your first BPD will be the warmest and kindest person you have ever met, until they aren't anymore.

>> No.10526819

>>10521400
We as humans have very little acceptance for ourselves because physical needs dictate for most of us to follow through on lots of stuff even though we really don't feel like it and it's insanely worse on girls. They feel stuff really unpredictably for a week every month and rest of the time they feel in more intense way than guys yet they are forced to stifle it because its inconvenient. You can look at how period blood is treated to see how femininity and humanity is treated. For my whole life I was memed to get grossed out by "vagina stuff" but recently a new age chick pointed out that it's really unreasonable to get so grossed out by something so natural and so essential to life. Periods aren't shit, they are disregarded not because they have no utility but because they have an immense utility that was not used up. All the period rituals and using it to help grow plants and stuff seems quite reasonable as far as spirituality goes.

>> No.10526872

>>10526819
>Periods aren't shit, they are disregarded not because they have no utility but because they have an immense utility that was not used up. All the period rituals and using it to help grow plants and stuff seems quite reasonable as far as spirituality goes.
You have been memed on, m8. These rituals are political mysticism built on idiocy and lack of common sense. Period blood is thought of as disgusting, because it reeks vile and is unhygienic. Urine smells better and is sterile and look how people feel about that. That alone should show you that this is not a political question, but one of human instincts The only body fluid that is universally not considered gross are tears. We were conditioned by evolutionary pressures to consider everything else a potential source of infection. Independently from that, we are also grossed out by vile smells, which makes period blood doubly disgusting.
Now people are generally not all that iffy about their own blood, same as they aren't grossed out by their own urine or saliva, but they generally don't like it when someone else bleeds on them (or pisses or spits on them).

>> No.10526890
File: 213 KB, 326x365, smugdaphne.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10526890

>>10526321
>Maris>Daphne

>> No.10527006

>>10526872
No i get that I just literally went from wincing when hearing the word "period" to being okay with that. Obviously I'm not for random people throwing their fluids at each other but it also makes sense to not get disgusted by what a person you are in a relationship with is going through most of their life. Again not necessarily interacting with said fluids but accepting their existence and place in other person's lives. You are certainly right about evolutionary/survival reasons but you also got to admit that periods and other women problems have an overblown "eww gross" joke status in people's minds. Like you can be
longterm sleeping with a person i.e. de facto being okay with exchanging fluids but "women stuff" will still make you wince and I believe in a sufficient part because "it's what people do with these kinds of topics"

>> No.10527016
File: 13 KB, 225x225, aaahhhhhh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527016

>>10525973
>i went all the way to warosu to look at that

>> No.10527049

>>10518921
ssomethinhg by alice munroe

>> No.10527062

>>10525298
Is Frasier the most /lit/ sitcom?

>> No.10527067

>>10526274
>joyce and hegel were both women
Actually they were black transqueers.

>> No.10527069

>>10527062
Pleasantly charming, very comfy, lowbrow humor masquerading as highbrow, but also self-aware that it is doing so, if you threw in a nazi ranting about something retarded for five minutes every other episode, I would say it is quintessentially /lit/

>> No.10527079

>>10526572
This is actually one of the most understanding threads on /lit/ that I've seen.

>> No.10527083

>>10521794
I'd like to remind you that even though women cling to social norms way stronger than men do normalfags of both sexes exist
this kind of posts only accentuates my misanthropy, and only because it is evolutionarily justified doesn't mean it's not bad
>>10523686
>happiness depends on having a sexual partner
sad to see that's what /r9k/ believes, you really need to take the "MGTOW pill" in this case
>>10526249
You know, it's fucking disgusting how you women value honesty so much in a relationship and do that in return
>>10526572
>what is sexual dimorphism?

>> No.10527092
File: 92 KB, 400x515, 1498339305108.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527092

>> No.10527093
File: 34 KB, 576x768, Projecting_At_The_Max.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527093

>>10524170
> I think your skepticism is as simple as a lack of earnest life experience with women

Wow, what a nice way of putting your own insecurities out you faggot.

>> No.10527129
File: 35 KB, 435x300, 1513643205875.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527129

>>10526099
>>10521718
>>10524170
>>10526249
>Femanon's detected

Go back to Crystal.Cafe or Lolcow you faggots. /Lit/ is a man's board.

>> No.10527253

>>10526192
You're weak, goy.

>> No.10527265

>>10522103
That kid is the kid from camp, and only happened once. Her other sexual partners include Humbert, the playwrite whose name I've forgotten who humbert murders and the father of her child at the end of the book.

>> No.10527267

>>10527129
Femanon's detected what?

>> No.10527276

>>10527267
illiteracy

>> No.10527289

>>10527129
And a ESL board too it seems

>> No.10527295

All women have a period in their lives where they get curious and want to fuck a bunch of different guys. Usually happens in the first two years of college, for some it can only be a few weeks before they settle and for others it can last ten years. The sooner you accept this and shake off your insecurities the happier you'll be.

>> No.10527312
File: 34 KB, 408x450, 1512850704890.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527312

>>10521649
>TL;DR it's everyone else's fault
Yeah, this is pretty authentic. Well done.
Anyone who responded to this thinking that it was any good should genuinely hang themselves btw.

>> No.10527333
File: 31 KB, 650x376, lol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527333

>>10527006
>you also got to admit that periods and other women problems have an overblown "eww gross" joke status in people's minds. Like you can be longterm sleeping with a person i.e. de facto being okay with exchanging fluids but "women stuff" will still make you wince
Speak for yourself. I've never seen anybody react this way and I've never remotely felt that way about it myself. What happened in your youth that you have these bizarre hangups? Or were you just raised in the woods?

I have no clue at all how anybody raised in the last 40 years could have the hangups you're describing unless they had some serious trauma

>my fat uncle strangled me during Thanksgiving dinner because a Kotex ad came on the radio and now I visibly wince and start sweating whenever someone alludes to menstruation

>> No.10527340

>>10527129
wahh keep the roasties out of our safe space

>> No.10527354

>>10526890
That is a very smug Daphne, thank you for this

>> No.10527361

>>10526249
Imagine being this narcissistic.

>> No.10527470

>>10521649
My mouth was wide fucking open involuntarily and that never happens.

>> No.10527483

>>10527470
Did you cried at the end, soyboy?

>> No.10527487

>>10527483
nope, why would I?

>> No.10527547

>>10524599
>>10524623
There is something really wrong with you

>> No.10527554

I need to bleach my brain after
>>10521649
>>10524599
>>10524623
So glad I don't have a shit life

>> No.10527574

>>10525930
>>10525941
>>10525954
>>10525963
>>10525966
Is she autistic? Not to sound mean (actually fuck it, I don't care about sounding mean), but her facial expressions and her gestures and movements strike me as cute but somewhat autistic.

>> No.10527578

>>10526037
>keep telling yourself that as if being human itself isnt a disturbing experience.
kys if that's you POV

>> No.10527588
File: 317 KB, 1920x1080, fuck time.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527588

>>10527574
I think she's only pretending to be autistic like most tumblrinas.

>> No.10527594

>>10526722
>It's the best to just stay away from crazy persons, especially if they appear to be really friendly and charming.
Fagboy Gavin de Becker made an interesting statement regarding this: When you find yourself being charmed, do not think "he is a charming man" - instead, wonder "why is he trying to charm me?". de Becker falls short on occasion but he makes some good observations.

>> No.10527601

>>10526249
>Last week my husband got yelled at and hit at work in front of a lot of people and had to bitch down so it didn't escalate further
what a beta bitch lmao

>> No.10527604

>>10527574
nah she knows exactly what she's doing. she's self aware and controlled af, and it works for her. she's got boys falling at her feet willing to do anything for her. bet all of her friends are male too.

>> No.10527606

>>10526307
>WAAHHHHHHHH everything is subjective
no

>> No.10527614

>>10527601
>beta bitch keeps his cool to keep his career intact
t. mommy pays my bills

>> No.10527615

>>10527604
im pretty sure her only friend is her cousin that's in a wheelchair

>> No.10527625
File: 79 KB, 600x902, IMG_2865.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527625

>>10527606
Nice addition to the conversation my man

>> No.10527626

>>10526572
Superior and inferior depends on the context, and the context here is that women value conformity over everything else. That doesn't turn the wheels of civilization and neither does that ensure a civilization that can rear the present generation properly.
Women and men might be able to be equally intelligent but stating that they're equal is stupid. Their biology makes them different adn that doesn't change unless you're some borderline "just cut it biological female" case

>> No.10527633

>>10527614
>""""career"""" where you get beaten up and shamed

>> No.10527640

>>10527615
lmao of course it is, fits great with her aesthetic

>> No.10527649
File: 473 KB, 771x787, On 4chan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527649

>>10527604
>>10527588
This. She knows about the kind of women weebs and japanese fags like (lot of videos of her pandering to japs) and acts this character to get popular.
Only delude /r9k/ orbiters think she's legit autistic like them.

>> No.10527650

>>10527633
Everyone has a run in with a rager at some point, any job

>> No.10527653
File: 19 KB, 479x335, 1499130634798.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10527653

>>10526024
There is no "struggle", this stupid, narcissistic bitch is claiming that her "girlhood happiness" ended at 8 because a man stroked her hair.
This is one of the most pathetic threads I've ever seen on /lit/. Every male here who's praising this vapid attention whore needs to go outside and establish some real social relationships with real women if they think this anything this cunt is saying is normal. Fucking hell, what a joke.

>> No.10527659

>>10527650
except if you get beaten up there's something wrong.
And if you get "emasculated" after someone shouts at you youuuu should go back to grade school.

>> No.10527708

>>10526038
>married then pregnant
Fucking kek

>> No.10527738

>>10527649
>implying trannies, kikes, and niggers are to blame for all the problems in the world
DROPPED

>> No.10527780

>>10527659
>what a pussy
>lol only kids get emasculated
Exactly, you think someone getting hit once and not doing anything about it equates to them being "beat up" and bitching down. He knows that he did what he had to go stay out of trouble at work, but he also knows that other people will think exactly the same as you and peoples perceptions of him matter a lot in his work!

The guy doesn't actually work for my husbands company, but they had to do some business together over a month long period - with a third company, and my husband got the better deal in the end. The guy posted on some shit on Facebook about taking a "leave of absence" from work and later took it down so I'm not sure if he got fired or what.
If my husband lost a lucrative job because he couldn't stand to look like a pussy in front of a bunch of people and fought someone - he'd be an idiot, and a pussy.

>> No.10527788

>>10527738
Aren't*

>> No.10527791

>>10527738
haha i can say bad words
praise kek brotehr

>> No.10527798

>>10527791
not an argument.

>> No.10527804

>>10527780
Woman, I know that he didn't retaliate because he would have lost his job. but having a job where shit like this happens is fucking hilarious.

>> No.10528075

>>10527798
>>>r/atheism/

>> No.10528154
File: 86 KB, 400x285, d26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528154

>>10526464
You're right to associate this with borderline.

>> No.10528345
File: 55 KB, 240x320, 3232.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528345

>>10527016
thanks anon

>> No.10528489 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 
File: 574 KB, 511x850, 1515791049157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528489

>>10520707
>>10519002
>>10519022
>She never quite reached a woman did she

In my dreams, she has.

>> No.10528498

>>10528489
I swear to God if you post this shit again

>> No.10528503 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 
File: 953 KB, 1269x1687, 1515791239838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528503

>>10528498

I can, and I will.

>> No.10528507
File: 540 KB, 690x648, azdfw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528507

>>10528489
>>10528503
Reminder to report and/or not reply to /his/ posts

>> No.10528525 [DELETED] 
File: 658 KB, 687x1117, 1489743887000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528525

>>10528507

Thanks for the (You)s

Here, have the outline of a pregnant Anne Frank erotic novel I wrote.

https://pastebin.com/htx8ZzPr

>> No.10528570

>>10527653
The one voice of reason in this thread in everyone responding to that post, thank you.

>> No.10528599

>>10528503
That stomach was a really large breast at one point

>> No.10528609

>>10521649
>you date someone else

I feel you.

>> No.10528610 [SPOILER]  [DELETED] 
File: 1.47 MB, 1010x1501, 1515792654798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528610

>>10528599

That's why it's so hot. The stomach is like a giant third boobie to play with.

>> No.10528618 [DELETED] 

>>10528599

D-Did you draw it?

>> No.10528646

>>10528525
what is happening

>> No.10528656

>>10528646
a retarded namefag from /pol/ is trying to push his shitty meme and some retards are giving him (You)'s

>> No.10528666 [DELETED] 

>>10528656

I'm not a namefag tho

>> No.10528671

>>10528666
you are literally nbf

>> No.10528677 [DELETED] 

>>10528671

I'm not tho

>> No.10528708

Can we get this thread back on topic of talking about Agatha

>> No.10528732

>>10528708
Do you know where OP's image comes from? She hasn't uploaded a video in months.

>> No.10528735
File: 20 KB, 460x276, images (34).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528735

Ok, I need to know who is the girl on the pic. She does not look like Agatha from threemilk. If she is Agatha, however, I would like to see the source of this pic as she appears always woth curly hair and the pwrspn in the pic looks older and has straight hair.

>> No.10528742

>>10528732
>>10528735
She is Agatha look at the alpaca in the back, I haven't seen her in a while, but she does twitch streams, so I figure this is where it is from. I suppose she decided to stop LARPing as a 12 year old or something.

>> No.10528780
File: 9 KB, 443x332, images (24).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528780

>>10528742
Yeah the background is the same indeed

>I suppose she decided to stop LARPing as a 12 year old or something.

I dunno. She said in a video that she is mentally retarted. She also speaks japanese which proves that beyond any doubt.
I believe that she could just have been insecure about the hair and decided to do that. Most curly haired women are very insecure about their hair.

>> No.10528833
File: 44 KB, 692x1000, 361944_full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528833

>>10528742
>>10528780
Does she have a facebook?
She didn't say anything about a stream in the twitter nor in the instagram

>> No.10528906

>>10528780
>Most curly haired women are very insecure about their hair
Yeah, I've never understood that, I think curly hair is godtier, but then again, I'm an autist who will never be loved.

>> No.10528935
File: 56 KB, 1180x842, 1458945615421.jpg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528935

>>10521649
>a man wrote this

>> No.10528957

>>10528780
Dude she's playing a character lmao

>> No.10528968
File: 24 KB, 460x276, images (33).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528968

>>10528906
That's easy to understand. Most women follow what is popularly perceived as beautiful in way or the other. When they they love their curly hair or having extra weight, it is just a way to mask their insecurity. Today, straight hair is considered the norm, even black people try to make their hairs straight, in thr 80's, however, straight haired women would get their hairs curlied by a professional.
I believe that women should keep their God-giving hair, everything else looks unnatural and satanic, just look at all the blonds with thick black eyebrows: ridiculous.
Anyway, you should have a more optimistic look toward reality. Have you ever read Greek lit? It might help you on that

>> No.10528976
File: 50 KB, 510x276, tony-image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10528976

>>10528957
A character that speaks Japanese. Hows that?
If you dedicated your time to learn to read, write and speak japanese without being a japanese person, having japanese background or living in Japan, you have a mental illness-that's all.
Her mannerisms must be fake, but that doesn't change th3 fact that she is indeed retarted to some degree.

>> No.10528989

>>10528976
Retarded people are not able to learn jap as second language desu

>> No.10528990

>>10528976
I'm only aware of threemilk because I like asmr but she said in one video that she lived in Japan for a period. Also, what's mentally ill about wanting to learn a language?

>> No.10529019
File: 7 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529019

>>10528990
>she said in one video that she lived in Japan for a period.
That's a sounding explanation.

>Also, what's mentally ill about wanting to learn a language?
I would rather not elaborate much on that. However, ask yourself what's the reason most western people give to learn japanese. Be sincere with your response, even though it may be harmful.

Also, there is literally a video of her claiming to be mildly retarded and lesbian(two different things that are not related). Unless she has been lying, it is a good explanation for a 19? years old to behave the way she does. If she is different in streams, I don't know.

>> No.10529031

>>10527649
She is the reason I am leaving this cancerous site. There's so much more out there, and we delude and lock ourselves in this small perception of the world. I haven't been happy for as long as I can remember. I finally want to give life a go.....

Thanks, aggie.

>> No.10529065

>>10528989
explain weebs then

>> No.10529069
File: 649 KB, 1600x1265, 1477897599050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529069

Reminder that her family is weird and fucked up

>> No.10529070

>>10529031
please don't leave me

>> No.10529086
File: 25 KB, 384x384, images (15).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529086

>>10529069
Lol where did you get that photo?

>faces of abused children

Anyway, her parents probably told her to be creative* while she was a child.

>> No.10529136

>>10529031
Tfw you get bullied by a 80 pound gurl

>> No.10529138

>>10529069
Goddamn, this makes me really, really, really sad.

>> No.10529150

>>10529069
no wonder she has to seek attention on the internet.
how old is her twinky asian brother? does he have a youtube?

>> No.10529262

>>10529150
Lol I wish that was me

>> No.10529263

>>10521794
Oh, look. The person who posted an image from Tumblr has an aversion to capital letters.

Anyway, you have no room to call anyone boring. We've endured your boring, half-baked posts for years.

>> No.10529276

>>10518921
here i'll do it for you
>ohh teee heeeee look at me
>omg i'm pregnant

>> No.10529310

>>10525298
I just watched that episode today.

>>10526321
I'd take Daphne over Roz.

>> No.10529318

>>10525622
explain lt dan

>> No.10529324

>>10518921
>Any book that depicts perfectly the inner experience of a girl growing into a woman?
no

>> No.10529341

>>10529310
>I'd take Daphne over Roz
Who arw these people?

>> No.10529359
File: 23 KB, 512x384, thedaphnetomyapollo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529359

>>10529341
Daphne>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Roz
fucking pleb

>> No.10529371

>>10529359
Is that a tv serial or movie?

>> No.10529380

>>10529371
it's from a patrician american sitcom from the 90's

>> No.10529385

>>10529380
No that's not twin peaks

Title?

>> No.10529436

>>10529359
Daphne is only superior to Roz on the first three seasons

>> No.10529449
File: 474 KB, 1280x720, Carli Claire_What I Got For Christmas! 2016_05m40s_720p_192K_Mon_26_Dec_2016.mp4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529449

These is my Words

>> No.10529475

>>10529449
Please delete this. My heart is not prepared to tread this trail once more.

>> No.10529488

>>10529449
does he swim? impressive shoulders

>> No.10529693

>>10529138
Why in the world is this sad? they all look clean and healthy and well cared for.. you can't just adopt children without being vetted and without good money.

>> No.10529722

>>10529693


>>10529069
look at the giant bookcase of shitty mismatched homeschool books, the atrocious, ugly interior decor and furniture, the utter lack of consideration towards appearance/presentability from anyone but the mom (!!!!!!!).

i lived this life this was my upbringing.

theyre in the ugly part of rearing their kids

>> No.10529755

>>10529722
desu they just look exceptionally normal, barring the adopted kids and the parents look like they're still in good shape.

>> No.10529777

>>10529755
in what world[1] do you live in where either of the girls on the couch are considered normal?

they look like they are damp with cat piss and have never brushed their hair or washed their face in their life and that they believe makeup is of the devil

[1]: other than the world of weird homeschooled shutin young-earth-creationist fundies who go to autistic furry sonic rp fanfic youth groups held weekly at the local Presbyterian church for "socialization"i lived in this world :(

>> No.10529778

>>10529777
I'm sure you're a real testament to human perfection lad

>> No.10529903

>>10529777
wtf? none of em look dirty or umkempt and the agatha girl wears makeup, and what's wrong with the girls on the couch other than one being disabled? this is some blatant projection mate.

>> No.10529947

>>10529359
image the strong handies marty got as part of his therapy

no wonder he was always so smug in his shitty chair

>> No.10529977
File: 441 KB, 560x580, 1515138956082.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529977

STOP BEING MEAN TO AGGIE
i love her more than anything

>> No.10529981

>>10518921

I find it stupid to try and make a personal experience (being a woman) into a universal, prescriptive one. Like I just imagine a certain woman reading The Second Sex and thinking to herself, "what the hell is all this bullshit?"

>> No.10529991
File: 19 KB, 551x456, frasiermad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10529991

>>10526321
>>10527062
>>10529359
>>10529341
My niggas.

Daphne is 11/10 but Roz will do things she won't. To be honest I was always a Roz man as a teenager. Daphne always seemed like the too-perfect sweet girl who secretly hates herself and has an eating disorder. No thanks.

And yes Frasier is /lit/. Pretty much all of the references or books that appear on camera are patrician memes. >>10527069 this anon summarized it beautifully. Frasier and Niles are caricatures written by well-educated people who are making a living poking fun at high society pseuds they know.

>> No.10529995

>>10527062
No its MASH

>> No.10529997

>>10529995
no it's Frasier

>> No.10530020

>>10529991
I think you're too light on Daphne. She admitted to fucking several men back in the day one ep. and was pretty crude and brash a lot of the time. Tbh i thought a person like her was more secure than Roz.

>> No.10530041
File: 1.46 MB, 1920x1080, yGUreyf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10530041

>>10529981
are you really girl?
a-are you pretty?

>> No.10530072
File: 114 KB, 347x344, dfwconfused.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10530072

>aggie/frasier thread is the only one to reach bump limit on /lit/
at least there weren't any nazis
daphne is best girl

>> No.10530086

>>10529995
>>10529997
honest question, why would lit watch a sitcom?
How are these shows better than lests say Friends?

>> No.10530141

>>10530086
I recently rewatched Frasier in its entirety. First few seasons was mostly out of nostalgia, but I kept watching mostly because I wanted to study narrative structure and see how the writing team completed the later seasons. I was disappointed, but not surprised. Frasier Crane becomes a parody of himself: a well-meaning psychiatrist from Boston becomes a pathological liar, womanizer, and insecure blowhard.

I haven't seen Friends since the 90s and to be honest I stopped watching after the first season. Friends was more like an Archie comic, the characters and situations too unbelievable. A lot of the same problems about relationships and so on were addressed, but the context was different and the characters more insufferable.

>> No.10530165 [DELETED] 

>>10530086
Not to like pretentious twat but I can hardly watch tv or movies, it just can't keep my attention oddly. I feel locked in while reading

>> No.10530167

>>10530086
Not to sound like a pretentious twat but I can hardly watch tv or movies, it just can't keep my attention oddly. I feel locked in while reading

>> No.10530193
File: 441 KB, 2000x1500, d96d18ae38a7e5064507a4b2c9861855.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10530193

>>10530086
>not sitting around in your commieblock with your flatmates smoking cigarettes and drinking cheap wine watching comfy programs on a hand me down crt tv in the pre-smartphone era

life was simpler then. you'd just watch what was on.

>> No.10530203

>>10530086
Two & a Half Men is prime /lit/-core

>> No.10530264

>>10518926
H E R T F O R D S H I R E
E
R
T
F
O
R
D
S
H
I
R
E

>> No.10530323

>>10530141
>>10530167
>>10530193
You guys were talking so much about it, I thought it was something really good. Just nostalgia then, right?

>> No.10530344

>>10530323
No Frasier is unironically good

>> No.10530366

>>10530344
I am confused now.
Maybe I will watch an episode and judge it myself.
This is a tv series thread now, give recs

>> No.10530373

>>10530344
Nope watch it again as an adult. It's just cute

>> No.10530377

>>10530203
The HiV part really messed with me. I guess that's what the srries are about. If you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

>> No.10530384

>>10530373
Being an adult sucks so much

>> No.10530387

>>10530373
>>10530384
These desu

>> No.10530400

>>10530373
>>10530384
>>10530387
childhood is idolizing fraiser, adulthood is realizing martin was right all along

>> No.10530408

>>10530400
Childhood having great expectarions for the smallest things
Adulthood is pretending to like Lynch movies or pretending to like anything

>> No.10530416

>>10530323
Yeah, it's good. I kept watching past nostalgia because it did make me laugh now and then. Until they started reusing premises in different contexts. By the 70% mark the writers were struggling but I kept at it because I wanted to see it to the end and see what clever technique the writers would use to reinvent. But it was almost always enjoyable. Very few bad episodes, for something that is basically a recycled Three's Company.

>> No.10530419

The bumplessness state of the thread gives it a somber air.

>> No.10530431

>>10530384
I know, we really do get jaded af. I try not to get too nostalgic about shit cause nothing is ever as good as I remember.

>> No.10530444

>>10530431
shits alright but sitcoms were always for braindead boomers

>> No.10530451

I think watching Frasier as a kid ruined my life desu

>> No.10530667

>>10526249
>tfw no qt manipualtive gf that makes you feel better

Why even live

>> No.10530693
File: 446 KB, 618x597, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10530693

>>10529449
Do you have her videos? I'm willing to trade for Agatha's.

>> No.10530900
File: 1.31 MB, 500x281, aggsmile.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10530900

>>10530693
Here you go Aggiefriend
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zng9hd0s8t6h4/carliclaire

>> No.10530961

>>10527574
She literally said she is autistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCiI1SxOYuo

>> No.10530979

>>10526249
Do you really think all women are like you?

>> No.10531074
File: 185 KB, 800x1848, 1485077119538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10531074

>>10530900
Thank you. Do you want anything?

>> No.10531096

>>10531074
I want a lot of things, but you cannot provide them. Pay it forward, friend.

>> No.10531114
File: 36 KB, 778x512, pepgib.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10531114

>>10530693
khazar milks

>> No.10531154
File: 275 KB, 493x492, Desktop 03.10.2017 - 08.00.00.23 (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10531154

>>10531114
She dislikes wearing bras for some reason.

>>10531096
>Pay it forward, friend.
W-what does that mean?

>> No.10531338

>>10525963
Who is this?

>> No.10531418

>>10527006
You're am immature idiot and I don't see anything else that you say in your post.
Women menstruate, they didn't decide it,
Nature did. if you get disgusted by something so basic that a girl has to experience from ages 11 or 12 every 28 days,then newsflash, you're a fuckng pussy

>> No.10531649

>>10531338
ThreemilkT, AKA Agatha.

>> No.10531685

>>10530451
How so?

>>10530900
Is tje QeA here?