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[Anonymous No.10488741]

Is anybody else here well on their way to inhabiting a totally solipsistic universe in which only their own value judgments are of any concern? I am. And here's how.

I reside in a small modernized cabin in the garden belonging to my mother. I sleep on a single campbed and the only furniture I own is a wooden chair on which I sit for hours each day while facing the single window which looks out onto the garden. I tend a small vegetable patch, drink only water and coffee and spend barely any of the alms donated to me by my mother on foodstuffs. I often forage for nuts and wild berries, and I intend to begin removing edible food from the waste bins of my local supermarket soon both to ease the burden on waste disposable facilities that would otherwise have to process this entirely healthy and edible food.

I spend the majority of my day simply contemplating both the internal and external world. I have lived this way for three years already and I have never felt more at ease. Have I simply reached peak wisdom? Is this what the final manifestation of the Black Pill entails? Are there any books on this issue? Thanks for reading.

[Anonymous No.10488759]

>>10488741
your lazy

[Anonymous No.10488780]

>>10488741
... what about it are you contemplating?

[Anonymous No.10488817]

>>10488780
I am contemplating and undergoing intense exploration of the vast uncharted terrain of my mind.

[Anonymous No.10489102]

congratulations, you're a transcendentalist.

[Anonymous No.10489119]

>>10488741
sounds comfy

[Anonymous No.10489592]

But in 10 years will you still be happy doing this? Making no real progress towards improving your life or standing, just wilting in the garden like the undernourished perennials

[Anonymous No.10489675]

>>10488741
I hope this is real. Cozy as heck.

[Anonymous No.10489685]

>>10489592
progress is a spook
life is a spook

[Anonymous No.10489728]

>>10489592

There's no such thing as progress.

[Anonymous No.10489754]

>>10488741
Cool Rick Sanchez cosplay

[Anonymous No.10489759]

>>10489685
>>10489728
t. Listen to a man from a country that shit in the street

[Anonymous No.10489803]

>>10488741
Your mom okay with this? She won't live forever you know.

[Anonymous No.10489809]

You'll be taken out of this way of life eventually when your mother's money runs dry and soon desire won't seem so distant or seperate

[Anonymous No.10489811]

>>10489759
huh

[Anonymous No.10489825]

>>10488741
oh wow you're so enlightened omg are you buddha you have truly transcended craving wow look it's an old brown woman you are truly at peace... PLEASE enlighten me on what your value judgements (TM) are

get real. you're not fucking wise.

[Anonymous No.10489840]

>>10489825
>wise: having or showing experience, knowledge, and good judgment.

I'm wise.

[Anonymous No.10489843]

>>10488817
so... nothing?

[Anonymous No.10489851]

>>10489843
The fact you ask me what may be lurking there in the vast uncharted terrain of my mind suggests you yourself have never spent hours, days or indeed weeks silently exploring every crevice, every nook, every cranny contained in the human psyche. It is a sad thought to someone like myself, considering that I am currently hundreds of miles into the wilderness of my subconscious, discovering new treasures and establishing new settlements with each new day. I could of course have remained staid and placid in the confines of the small Shire-like village constructed by socialization and pre-programmed behavior, but to my Aragorn-esque disposition such a life seemed both contemptible and wrong.

[Anonymous No.10489857]

Dharma Bums by Kerouac, it has multiple comfy outposts

[Anonymous No.10489881]

>>10489851
There is no word entish, elvish or in the tongues of Men to describe this autism

[Anonymous No.10489948]

>>10489851
Seems like not what I'm looking for as far as "enlightenment" goes if you still find yourself on this trash board

[Anonymous No.10490025]

>>10489840
>resorting to dictionary definitions to define wisdom when socrates and others attempted to define wisdom in dialogues

lol no

[Anonymous No.10490045]

>>10490025
I have Socratic wisdom as well.

[Anonymous No.10490049]

Have you ever tried being "funny" yourself OP, or do you just spam other people's posts all day?

[Anonymous No.10490062]

I like this character. Please continue.

[Anonymous No.10490066]

>>10489851
good shit my brother

[Anonymous No.10490070]

>>10489851
are you the guy who sleeps in a sleeping bag and fantasizes about helms deep every night

[Anonymous No.10490081]

>>10490045
Provide it, bud.

[Anonymous No.10490243]

>>10489851
If any of that was true I couldn't imagine you posting on 4chan, let alone use the internet. The fact of where this is being read kind of ruins the illusion doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.10490327]

>>10489843
>>10489851
unequivocally BTFO XD

[Anonymous No.10490366]

op reminds me of that norwegian guy who blogged about moving to a cabin and writing his book. whatever happened to him?

[Anonymous No.10490376]

>>10488741
sooo, the guy is asking for books on this topic and litteraly no one is bringing op thoreau?

[Anonymous No.10490430]

>>10488741
Admirable.

You should consider ditching the coffee though, it's a needless dependency. If you want something hot and tasty you can make tisanes from what you forage. You can also get some potted mint plants and use the nettles from the garden, both make for nice tisanes.

I live in a tiny room in my mother's house and receive my alms from the state, most of which I give to my mother. She lives a humble life as well so most of it gets spend on whole foods and a little water and electricity. I use a second hand office computer and wear hand-me-downs and milsurp and buzz my own head.

Lately I've been putting some effort into making the garden somewhat of a bird refuge but I'll think I'll work on the neglected herb garden next spring.

Simplicity, frugality and quietude have been praised by contemplatives throughout the ages for a good reason. Once you cast of the trappings of worldliness it is really the best way to live.

[Anonymous No.10490463]

>>10489592
Progress is only required if you're not content. If you're content, whereto would you progress? Everything is already unproblematic and therefore perfect.

[Anonymous No.10490473]

welcome back op

[Anonymous No.10490478]

>>10490070
Elaborate on this "guy", please, his moral compass appears sound and I wish to subscribe to his philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10490503]

>>10489851
God damn that was embarrassing to read

[Anonymous No.10490663]

>>10488741
enjoy getting laid living like that lmao

[Anonymous No.10490706]

>>10488741
>I live off my mother.
>Have I reached peak wisdom?

Jesus christ

[Anonymous No.10490740]

>>10489851
At first you were cool, now you're kind of pretentious. However I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Keep up the character, bud.

[Anonymous No.10490747]

>>10490663
Not OP, but sex is highly overrated. Women are overrated in general. And if your highest goal is sex, you'll find plenty in the world of that and plenty to despair as well.

[Anonymous No.10490871]

>>10490706
Food is very cheap. If you’re an ascetic you cost your benefactors very little.

[Anonymous No.10490890]

>>10490663

At least he has his own cabin, chill out dude.

[Anonymous No.10490914]

>>10488741
This guy is like a straight up white dude. Is that common with Brahmins?

[Anonymous No.10490935]

Thats what sunday is for, not every day of the week.

[Anonymous No.10490940]

>>10490914
He looks pretty brown to me...

[Anonymous No.10490952]

Btw, you're literally giving yourself autism (what you described is how the psycho analytic people described autism)

[Anonymous No.10490965]

>>10490940
A bit tanned sure but he'd blend in as a Frenchman

[Anonymous No.10490966]

Is this some sort of Samuel Beckett imitation

[Anonymous No.10490974]

i watch anime and masturbate to traps and read my kindle for an hour a night in bed
2 fiction books for 1 non-fiction book ratio, im reading oathbringer by brandon sanderson at the moment.
good book.

[Anonymous No.10490979]

>>10490966
Did Becky do this?

[Anonymous No.10491005]

>>10490965
sort of a pajeet derrida

[Anonymous No.10491895]

will internet transcendentalism be the genre that saves new sincerity?

[Anonymous No.10491965]

>>10488741
You've got Being down pat. Now try Becoming. Make good waves in the world as you go your way. Don't stress over it but just being is, dare i say it, against our nature.

[Anonymous No.10491973]

>>10488759
>your
Is this subtle meming?

>>10491895
God I hope so.

[Anonymous No.10492026]

>>10490376

>Thoreau: builds cabin in the woods, works a garden that produces surplus all day, writes all night, freezes all winter, and certainly has no technology beyond an axe

>This guy: lives with mom

I mean, I'm no better than him but he is the bad kind of transcendentalist. So yeah, Op, read Thoreau. Maybe grow some weed about it.

[((_)===D~~~ No.10492033]

>>10491965
Men who refuse to live as the rest of society are either beasts or gods.

In this case OP is a beast.

>>10488741
Are you sure it isn't complacency and a lack of gumption rather than:

>peak wisdom
>black pill end game
>etc

Read anything from the decadent movement to become a more depraved degenerate. Good luck.

[Anonymous No.10492057]

>>10490747
>be the animal who's psyche literally comes from the other, particularly the mother and father
>reject coitus and love, the physical and mental dissolving of barriers between self and other

[Anonymous No.10492064]

>>10492033
>Men who refuse to live as the rest of society are either beasts or gods.
Oh shut up lil neech

[Anonymous No.10492089]

>>10492064
>Baaaw
>Why do people judge me for being a human parasite

Life is rough. :^)

[Anonymous No.10492131]

>>10492089
I was just saying that you are a bad meme gone wrong.

[Anonymous No.10492139]

>>10491895
not if it reads the way OP writes

[Anonymous No.10492182]

>He thinks there are any internalities.
That's how I know you haven't made it.

[Anonymous No.10492185]

>>10492182
>Dude just pretend you don't exist

Stupidest shit ever

[Anonymous No.10492236]

>>10492185
>How could mirrors be real if our eyes weren't real.
Wake yourself before you fake your self.

[Anonymous No.10492341]

>>10492185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xps0jWksdIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-LZSl6TGdw

[Anonymous No.10492969]

>>10492057
>the physical and mental dissolving of barriers between self and other

Since when? I thought all psychoanalysts say that you can't approach the other which is why sex is just a mutual illusion in the end.

[Anonymous No.10492984]

>>10492969
That's a vast generalization. Sex often amounts to this but over time the illusion is inevitably broken and what must be found is a genuine relationship even if its extremely difficult to locate each other.

[Anonymous No.10492999]

>>10492984
A genuine relationship of what? This is why I hate psychoanalysis it just needlessly complicates things, even the stuff Lacan said can be said very simply but he doesn't. Just because you've never had sex doesn't mean your psyche comes from 'the other' lol. The only people that take it seriously are those who are already part of the cult.

[Anonymous No.10493004]

>>10492341
His argument essentially amounts to that we should identify by our spirit as opposed to our contingent material self. But how is this "spirit" not the self? Is it any different than the Cartesian ego? Which to me is the purest concept of the self there is in the Western tradition. And its one which is wholly prepared to find all material identification as arbitrary or illusory

[Anonymous No.10493022]

>>10492999
>A genuine relationship of what

Slow down you fucking retard. I thought it was clear I was talking genuine relationship as in between each other's actual mental life as opposed to the mere personas we project out from ourselves and onto other people.
You know imagine if you always had to pretend to be a cool smooth guy to attract a girl then you end up in an argument and she see's that you can vulnerable and nervous. Either the relationship ends or she comes to appreciate who you actually are behind who she previously thought you were. That's what it is to approach a genuine relationship.
Its never possible to directly see from the eyes of the other person but the very breakdowns in facades allow us to approach that reality

[Anonymous No.10493202]

>>10491005
I always thought he had a Cioran vibe myself

[Anonymous No.10493456]

>>10490979
No but I could see a Beckett character doing something akin to what OP said

[Anonymous No.10493502]

>>10493022
How can you be in between in each other's mental life? It's impossible. All relationships are ingenuine.

[Anonymous No.10493511]

>>10493502
Yet some are more ingenuine than others.

[Anonymous No.10493519]

>>10493502

That is a problem of categories not relationships. The model is to blame and not the data.

[Anonymous No.10493585]

>>10493511
>>10493519
No. A relationship is just something to facilitate reproduction and raise a child. It's impossible for a relationship to be more or less genuine. Sexual relationships don't exist.

[Anonymous No.10494086]

>>10493004
>His argument essentially amounts to that we should identify by our spirit as opposed to our contingent material self.
No, it doesn't. UG is a complete materialist. He does accept there being a memory or knowledge, but not that it's some sort of organ like a Mind, nor that it leads anywhere concrete. There's nothing there to identify with or anything of the kind.

[Anonymous No.10494104]

>>10493585

Your model is a lie. Straight up.
Relationship is one of the fundamental properties of nature. Your existence is contingent on many relationships, not just some weird "genesis" imperative. You have my pity.

[Anonymous No.10494660]

>>10489851
The fact you ask me what may be lurking there in the vast uncharted terrain of my mind suggests you yourself have never spent hours, days or indeed weeks silently exploring every crevice, every nook, every cranny contained in the human psyche. It is a sad thought to someone like myself, considering that I am currently hundreds of miles into the wilderness of my subconscious, discovering new treasures and establishing new settlements with each new day. I could of course have remained staid and placid in the confines of the small Shire-like village constructed by socialization and pre-programmed behavior, but to my Aragorn-esque disposition such a life seemed both contemptible and wrong.

[Anonymous No.10495155]

>>10493202
>>10491005
>>10490965
Never trust a thinker who isn't handsome desu

[Anonymous No.10495204]

>>10488741
thanks for sharing this anon

>anybody inhabiting a totally solipsistic universe
yes. although spending time in society makes this difficult (being bombarded by constant stimuli and negativity) and sometimes i react to things in the same manner i used to before i realized certain things about the nature of separation and identity...
but i did live as you did for a while, and it was the most intellectually fruitful time of my life
i do wish sometimes that i would meet more people irl who feel the way you do

>Have I simply reached peak wisdom
fuck no - your journey has just begun
>final manifestation of the Black Pill
i don't know what this is, but i would say my own way of life is the manifestation of an unyielding desire to seek the truth of my existence at any cost

before you go, do you know of any online forums to carry conversations about such things?

[Anonymous No.10495216]

>>10494104
not the one you're responding to, but you're taken for granted the reality of a lot of concepts here without bothering to explore what they really mean

[Anonymous No.10495268]

but you're not really self-sufficient, are you? you still depend on your mother. You have not reached peak wisdom yet.

[Anonymous No.10495310]

>>10495268
>implying self-sufficiency is a well-defined concept or one that is not simply founded on the desire to be validated as successful by others
not OP, but he seems to be happy in his corner
most would not be, perhaps, but he seems to be

[Anonymous No.10495323]

>>10495268
Self-sufficient people don't actually exist.

You'd have to walk naked into unowned woods and make it that way. Otherwise you're always dependant on someone.

Being dependant on a boss is no less being dependant than being dependant on your mother. Both give you money, they just require different tricks for you to do to get it.

[Anonymous No.10495438]

>>10495323
>Both give you money, they just require different tricks for you to do to get it
and ain't that the truth
it's almost like, when you stop paying attention to and begin questioning >muh beliefs, and begin to critically analyze >muh behaviours, some illusions magically begin to drift away...

[Anonymous No.10496346]

>>10495155
*isn't white

[Anonymous No.10496517]

>>10495438
at least to mommy you're irriplaceable.

[Anonymous No.10496920]

>>10494104
Yeah, a biological imperative.

[Anonymous No.10497440]

>>10489851
N E W M E M E