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/SfFg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:27:48 2017 No.10464886 [Reply] [Original]

Accomplishment Edition
>what new knowledge did you learn from sff books in 2017?
>what new joys did you encounter from sff books in 2017?
>how many books did you explore?

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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>>10439890
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>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 17:31:59 2017 No.10464903 >>10464886 >how many books did you explore? We still have 2 more days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:20:47 2017 No.10465104 What are some uncommon structures that are much less used than the 3-act structure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:21:58 2017 No.10465107 >>10464886 >73 books have you ever touched something with mire than 400 pages?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:40:24 2017 No.10465208 >>10465107 Not OP, but I read about that many in 2016, including all of Malazan.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 18:51:19 2017 No.10465259

>>10465107

That's a fair question. I read The Count of Monte Cristo this year, and it took me about a month! That's a lot of time for a book. I'm at 31 for the year. Several have been very long. I'm reading Oathbringer right now, and while it's light reading, the fucking thing is still, what, 1200 pages?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:12:49 2017 No.10465374

Has anyone else noticed how fantasy books always have the same few authors circle jerking each others' books on the front- and back cover? I don't know what they're called in English, but those shitty mini-reviews meant to entice you. Even random shit books do it, but when you've read a few fantasy books you start to notice the pattern. Do they do it willingly, I wonder, or is it just mutually beneficial shilling...

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:14:18 2017 No.10465379

>>10464886
>what new knowledge did you learn?
gene wolfe can write
>what new joys did you encounter?
r.a salvatore's drizzt books are way better than i thought they'd be back when someone gave them to me as a gift, telling me they were good. i sort of wrote them off as trash dungeon n dragons fanfiction but they were pretty good.
>how many books did you explore?
as far as sff, not much. seems like everything in this genre is over 400 pages which really bogs down book read per year. which is fine cause its not about how many books you read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:15:24 2017 No.10465386 >>10465374 probably mutually beneficial. if sanderson's quote made it onto my book you'd bet id say something nice about his.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:25:11 2017 No.10465436 i am thinking of reding sanderson but i need to know does he have feminist shit? like role reversal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:36:05 2017 No.10465511 >>10464886 Out of the 75 books I read this year 3 were Warhammer novels, I reread Lotr and New Sun and that's it as far as sffg goes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:36:07 2017 No.10465512 >>10465436 his books really mostly all are about how useless men are and women should be in all dominant positions in everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:44:40 2017 No.10465573 >>10465512 really? then why everyone on sffg read him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:49:19 2017 No.10465609 >>10465573 It's filled with retards or people who want anime. In most cases the groups coincide

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 19:51:50 2017 No.10465630 I must've started reading 50 books this year while only finishing about 10 of them...

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:06:51 2017 No.10465691

>>10464886
>Knowledge I gathered:
My granddad collected SciFi books.
>Joys I did encounter:
He owned everything from the storyline of "Perry Rhodan" (German SciFi Series, since 1961) from 1961 up to 2007.
>How many books?
Except for "Perry Rhodan", a full HumbleBundle and the "Eragon" series.

BTW, what do you guys think of the current Humble Book Bundle?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:06:54 2017 No.10465692

>>10464886
>what new knowledge did you learn from sff books in 2017?
I realized that there's literally nothing wrong with incest.
>what new joys did you encounter from sff books in 2017?
The joy of archeology. Both Lovecraft and H.G Wells were amazing authors.
>how many books did you explore?
43 or 44, depending on how much I read tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:17:59 2017 No.10465749 File: 10 KB, 181x281, 1473700023150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10465692 >i realized that there's literally nothing wrong with incest

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:21:02 2017 No.10465765 >>10464886 Gotta finish 1984 in the next 2 days to get my goal of 6 books. Not sure if I'm going to try for 12 next year or not. My only goal is to read Altered Carbon before the Netflix show comes out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:35:12 2017 No.10465857 Ok so i just read wot and its fucking amazing any other good wotlike books(i.e messianic characters)?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:42:50 2017 No.10465893
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>>10465630
On a similar note, I read many SFF books this year, averaging fifty pages a day; and yet I was unable to bring myself to finish a number of well regarded volumes: Poul Anderson's Broken Sword, Olaf Stapledon's Star Maker, Alfred Bester's The Demolished Man. I could see that they were all well written, and I was able to finish far more mundane longer works, but these were all re-shelved after a hundred pages because they didn't interest me. Stapledon is the most interesting case because I enjoy the likes of Wells and Lovecraft.

My point is that critical accolades, popularity, and a like of similar authors is still no reliable indication of whether someone will enjoy reading a book.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:44:38 2017 No.10465899 >>10464886 Why /lit/ didn't said to me that Clarke is a fucking hack?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:42:28 2017 No.10466128 >>10465899 It would get tiresome.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:45:03 2017 No.10466142 >>10465512 What bizarre alternate-universe Sanderson novels have you been reading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:45:50 2017 No.10466149 >>10465899 Isaac clarke? ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME HE IS A GOD

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:52:13 2017 No.10466184 File: 133 KB, 697x654, goodreads.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 21:59:23 2017 No.10466209 >>10465104 Jo-Ha-Kyu, it's the traditional Japanese style of making the ending suck on purpose and it's why most of your animes start out strong but peter out in the last few episodes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:01:16 2017 No.10466211 >>10465899 You should have picked that up in high school.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:14:36 2017 No.10466256 >>10466184 WHEEL OF TIME FUCK YEAH!

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:20:35 2017 No.10466269
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Space Opera
And Planetary Romance

>Golden Age Pulp Magazines
Northwest Smith stories by C.L. Moore
Erik John Stark stories and Solar System stories by Leigh Brackett

>1960s New Wave
Babel-17 and Nova by Samuel R. Delany
The Centauri Device by M. John Harrison
Dune by Frank Herbert

>Modern
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Revelation Space series by Alastair Reynolds
The Algebraist by Ian M. Banks

What are some other works /lit/ would recommend?
They must not only be fun, but also well written

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:31:38 2017 No.10466309

So Sanderson's "mystery project" is revealed to be a new non Cosmere propertycaller Skyward

"The official pitch is this: Defeated, crushed, and driven almost to extinction, the remnants of the human race are trapped on a planet that is constantly attacked by mysterious alien starfighters. Spensa, a teenage girl living among them, longs to be a pilot. When she discovers the wreckage of an ancient ship, she realizes this dream might be possible—assuming she can repair the ship, navigate flight school, and (perhaps most importantly) persuade the strange machine to help her. Because this ship, uniquely, appears to have a soul."

He said think scifi version of "boy and his dragon" story

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:46:27 2017 No.10466351

>>10466309
This sounds like the synopsis of a Robert Heinlein juvenile by way of Star Wars - a young woman living a humdrum existence dreams to be a pilot. Expect mean parents, a staunch companion, a salty old mentor, and a love interest. A man like Sanderson could probably write this without breaking a sweat because it sounds very derivative indeed - potentially an entertaining 180 page book that will be at least 400.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:46:36 2017 No.10466352 >>10466309 That reminds me of Dragon Masters, which is also a scifi version of the "Boy and his dragon" story where the remnants of the human race are trapped on a planet constantly attacked by mysterious aliens. I highly recommend it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:47:53 2017 No.10466520 >>10465512 Lies! Basically different gender roles because guess what? It's a different role. And there's talk of it once people start getting super powers and how that impacts women's role in the army and shizzz. Not obnoxious at all

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:57:31 2017 No.10466540 File: 55 KB, 312x475, 8074907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IS THORN OF EMBERLAIN OUT YET? SOMEONE LOCK SOYBOY LYNCH IN A ROOM WITH HIS LAPTOP UNTIL HE FINISHES IT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:39:29 2017 No.10466669 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10465899 Why aren't you lurking the fuck more, ESLfag? Headbutt a railroad spike then ask your mother why she didn't have the sense to swallow you.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:40:03 2017 No.10466672

>>10465374
Those quotes are called "blurbs", my ESL friend.

Publishing houses have their authors shill each other in blurbs. I don't know whether the authors are contractually obligated or whether they're paid individually but that's why you see the same ones over and over. A typical tactic is for publishers to have their big boys write blurbs for newcomers/midlist authors to get the hype up, although of course the A-listers "circle jerk" each other as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:41:05 2017 No.10466676 >>10465379 >over 400 pages which really bogs down book read per year I have this same problem. I fix it by going to used book store and buying old books; they're rarely over 200 pages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:44:57 2017 No.10466696 >>10466676 I read Choose Your Own Adventure, Where's Waldo, and comic books because it allows me to really drive up my book count for the year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:48:16 2017 No.10466710 >>10466269 This is the third time you've posted this; the last two times I replied to you and got zero response. Fuck off.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:53:50 2017 No.10466725

>>10466696
I'm not recommending them to drive up the number of books read. They're just less bloated. Given the choice between reading a second-rate author's trilogy of 400 page books and reading six second-rate standalones I'll take the latter every time. The opportunity cost is lower, you get a greater diversity of reading experience, and you cycle through authors and stories faster which makes it easier to identify gems.

Really the whole field would be improved if authors released more 150-250 page standalones before embarking on their EPIC TALE. Unfortunately autists keep guzzling the epic gruel being produced.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:55:05 2017 No.10466728 >>10466269 You seem to have the makings of a chart there anon.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:28:24 2017 No.10466802

>>10465436
>does he have feminist shit?
Not really.
Shallan is a annoying cunt and remains the lowpoint for the whole book.
And the retarded gender roles are questioned (man cant read, female shardbearers cant fight). but if you are triggered by this you could just stay in r9k/pol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:29:25 2017 No.10466806 >>10466802 well if there isnt "males suckz!!!!" i am okay with it i mean i read wot and the gender shit doesnt make me mad

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:34:03 2017 No.10466818 File: 140 KB, 900x1112, mievillechina01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sends you to the dictionary FUCK THIS CUNT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:39:33 2017 No.10466832 Webnovels are novels too

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:41:29 2017 No.10466838

>>10466806
oathbringer will be fine for you.
>"males suckz!!!!" wot
how could you finish wot? I have zero problems with "feminist shit". but the backwards ideology and the tsundere love story with the bodyguard makes me rage 10 years after i finally stopped that series.
It is literally "males suck in everything" for thousands of pages.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:47:36 2017 No.10466861

>>10466838
I would have hated wot if it was agenda pushing, but it was lore, not political shit.
When the all powerful mages can only possibly be female and the male ones are mad and kill everyone near, its normal that people see males as "inferior".
Even the nigg character(tuon) doesnt get the "I AM A STRONK BLACK WOMAN AND I AM THE MOTHERFUCKEN EMPRESS, ALSO EGYPTIONS WERE BLACK DIDNT YOU KNOW??!".

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:58:29 2017 No.10466885 >>10466818 Your vocabulary must be miniscule

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:04:41 2017 No.10466899

>>10464886
I hate nerds and their shitty sci-fi, most nerds are concerned witb broing technobabble and make no effort to express themselves with their limited emotional concepts. They are often physically and socially retarded, having little understanding of the human.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:09:02 2017 No.10467198 >>10466838 >It is literally "males suck in everything" for thousands of pages. How the fuck can anyone actually get this from Wheel of Time? You must have dropped it half way through the first book, or else you're actually mentally disabled.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:19:24 2017 No.10467218
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>>10466184
>tfw bought the complete WoT collection from a charity shop
At first I thought it was a good idea but now I have 12 books that are between 600-800+ pages each to get through.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:19:43 2017 No.10467220

>>10467198
should have been the third or fourth book and it was +10 years ago.
what i remember is the romance between the bodyguard and (for a lack of a better word) the tsundere,
and a bit about the world (female magic, man shouldnt be trusted with anything important, great evil, only hope is a boy which will turn mad because magic or something).
so yeah i stopped mostly because the cunt/bodyguard romance was the most annoying thing that i have ever read and i cant forget about it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:28:04 2017 No.10467245
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>>10467220
You must have been an extremely retarded kid, because nothing about the relationship between Lan and Moiraine is romantic and your interpretation of most of the series is totally backwards. Hell the Aes Sedai as a whole are presented as a bunch of nattering morons who think they're superior because they live in an ivory tower on an island shaped like a vagina, their being "superior" is entirely pretense.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:35:12 2017 No.10467266

>>10467245
>nothing about the relationship between Lan and Moiraine is romantic
mmh this would kinda explains my troubles with it, i like good romantic scenes.
>You must have been an extremely retarded kid
agree. but i will give wot another try in 2018 and skip the lan/moiraine scenes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:37:50 2017 No.10467271 >>10467266 Lan and Moiraine's scenes are extremely plot integral and they show up in pretty much every chapter of the first 3 books, you can't skip them. A better idea would be to read it and actually pay attention this time.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 05:11:13 2017 No.10467335

>>10467245
>Aes Sedai as a whole are presented as a bunch of nattering morons who think they're superior
Well they are seen as they can use magic.

>all Aes Sedai are women
>the live on an island shaped like a vagina
What did Robert Jordan mean by this? It really makes you think.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 05:16:46 2017 No.10467348

>>10467335
>Well they are seen as they can use magic.

And they are woefully inept even compared to the wise ones who barely channel at all, the Green Ajah gets completely blown the fuck out when it actually comes time to engage in battle with the power because, just like the Forsaken keep saying, they're ignorant children playing with powers they barely understand. I could go deeper into it, but the guy I don't want to post spoilers because I was responding to someone who had only read the first 3 books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:29:10 2017 No.10467433 >>10466818 >this dude What are his best books?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:30:51 2017 No.10467437 >>10467266 >skipping two of the best characters Just don't read the books lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:03:53 2017 No.10467495 >>10465436 The concept of gender is not flat out ingored, if thats what you mean. It doesnt get in the way of characters or story at all. It wont bother you, trust me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 07:28:12 2017 No.10467539 >>10467437 true but nynaeve is best than moiraine

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:34:12 2017 No.10467880 >>10465857 Book of the New Sun >messianic characters Yea >wotlike Not really

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:37:09 2017 No.10467889 >>10467335 >the live on an island shaped like a vagina Wouldn't erosion naturally change an island trapped in a river into that shape, though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:39:53 2017 No.10467899 >>10467889 Erosion doesn't give an island a clitoris though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:47:01 2017 No.10467917 any fantasy book with an oriental setting? like japan or china

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:48:41 2017 No.10467920

>>10466838
Females are the only reason there needs to be a last battle in the first place in the WoT series and why Saidin is tainted, if they weren't a bunch of bitches and cowards who refused to help Lews Therin the seal on Shaitan's prison wouldn't have been flawed, Saidin wouldn't have been tainted, and the 100 companions wouldn't have all been driven insane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:49:06 2017 No.10467921 >>10467917 Tales of the Otori triology I suppose

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 09:54:53 2017 No.10467931 >>10467917 The Crimson Queen by Alec Huttson, it's surprisingly good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:14:47 2017 No.10467989 >>10466184 i don't get how you autists managed to keep interest through 12 volumes of bad fantasy. i dropped that series at volume 4 or 5 when it really lost the plot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:16:21 2017 No.10467993 >>10467989 fuck meant to reply to >>10466861

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:21:45 2017 No.10468012

>>10467920
>hurr durr implying
If they had helped both Saidin and Saidar would be tainted, which is why Rand not only brought Moiraine and Nynaeave but also Mordin so they could use the True Power to protect Saidin and Saidar from the Dark One during the sealing of the bore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:37:10 2017 No.10468068 >>10467917 Journey to the west

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 10:41:07 2017 No.10468082 >>10467993 >>10467989 because i knew that it would slow down thus i was prepared but i like the setting, i mean messianic characters are amazing, also good characters that go mad trying are amazing as well.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:19:49 2017 No.10468249
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>Gubble me more, she said. Gubble gubble me, put your gubbish into me, into my gubbish, you Gubbler. Gubble gubble, I like gubble! Don't stop. Gubble, gubble gubble gubble, gubble!
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:33:10 2017 No.10468315

>>10467989
Modern fantasy is in a giant feedback loot in which poorly socialized autists eagerly buy volumes of padded-out, overdescribed filler; publishers see this and keep cranking out the sausage. Only autists can/want to read this dreck, so the cycle continues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:35:16 2017 No.10468321 there are any good fantasy scifi book? like scifi with sword and magic? like wheel of time in that magic is science?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:36:48 2017 No.10468326 >>10468321 B- oh, i see. this is bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 11:45:41 2017 No.10468376 File: 44 KB, 438x297, .....jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10468326 why bait its serious anon not everything is bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:01:34 2017 No.10468438 >>10465899 ESL EVERYONE

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:05:07 2017 No.10468447
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Started reading this following a recommendation from the last thread. I'm at about 25% in and Reynolds just blew it for me.

His dialogue is straight forward at best and feels utterly scripted, which is something I can deal with. Most of the characters are utterly one dimensional. That's annoying but tolerable, at least the captain is interesting enough.
But how the fuck do you write so many words and basically ignore the possible aliens in favor of boring ass company politics or chain-of-command drama and a bit of corruption? Who the fuck cares about that? And what's with this weak as fuck setup concerning their fuel reserves? It's like the weakest version of PLOT-DEVICE FOR LATER ON I've read in a long time.

A pity, the beginning was intriguing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 12:21:38 2017 No.10468500 File: 734 KB, 800x1280, Fagget.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10468249 >"A deathly trap waits for the colonists on mars" >not deadly d-does it want vcards?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 13:03:47 2017 No.10468595 >>10466309 Sounds like trash desu senpaitachi

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 13:52:20 2017 No.10468722 >>10466672 I thought blurps were the small descriptions of the story on the back?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 13:53:49 2017 No.10468727 >>10468722 blurps are what GRRM emits after three bowls of soup

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 13:55:07 2017 No.10468732

>>10468447
Reynold's isn't a very good writer. Decent ideas and he clearly knows what he's on about with his extended universe, but like you say characters and dialogue are just foreign to him. Don't understand all the hype, unless people like how he emulates classic scifi style which is also pretty cardboard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:18:50 2017 No.10468839 there are any books of fantasy with good romance like wheel of time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:21:46 2017 No.10468856 Is mistborn good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:33:49 2017 No.10468902 File: 37 KB, 278x278, 1513315139302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10468856

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 14:44:10 2017 No.10468946 >>10468856 the first trilogy is a classic though Sanderson's weakness on character building is on full display the current set has been pretty gud too

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:06:16 2017 No.10469055 >>10466209 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:32:23 2017 No.10469225 dude how i hate the black tower >only exist cause rand >rand cleansed the taint >DREGON ABENDONED UZ, LOGAYN IS UR LEADZ

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:38:36 2017 No.10469264 >>10468732 >Reynold's Phoneposters should be shot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:29:58 2017 No.10469569 >>10468447 It gets much worse. I wish I hadn't finished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:41:01 2017 No.10469617 >>10464886 >FANTASY >Selected: >>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg 1st Law is there but not Malazan? Go fuck yourself whoever compiled that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:42:23 2017 No.10469626 So I’m a big fan of Game of Thrones (the show) and wanted to know is reading the books worth the time if I already know the story, even beyond the books??

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:44:02 2017 No.10469632 >>10469626 GoT is just not worth the time, other than to have fun ruining /tv/ threads with spoilers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:46:26 2017 No.10469642 >>10469626 I tried to get into the books after watching the show but because I already knew the story and characters I just couldn't. The books do differ from the show eventually but that much so in the first few books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:47:47 2017 No.10469648 >>10469626 Try The Wheel of Time instead. Nothing like GoT but still good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:56:51 2017 No.10469682 >>10469617 malazan? FUCKIGN WHEEL OF TIME ISNT IN IT HOW CAN WHEEL OF TIME NOT BE INSELECTED SFFG IS BRAINLET

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:57:59 2017 No.10469689 File: 227 KB, 276x422, 26863057.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suri is best girl I don't care that she is only 15

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:59:55 2017 No.10469697 >>10469682 >FUCKIGN WHEEL OF TIME ISNT IN IT Then it's correct in that regard. WoT is GoT but with more filler.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:08:48 2017 No.10469735 >>10468856 If you're into cuckoldry or weak protagonists, you'll love Kaladin chapters in the first book. I didn't bother reading past that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:10:18 2017 No.10469740 >>10468447 Reynolds is good at short stories. The longer they get, the weaker they get. I really do love his worldbuilding though. Read something like Diamond Dogs if you want to redeem him a bit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:12:09 2017 No.10469746 >>10469735 have you read malazan and what did you think? not sure if it's just me but i almost instantly felt these were the best fantasy characters i've read before, barring the first law series possibly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:30:53 2017 No.10469851 >>10469735 want the protag a woman?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:44:04 2017 No.10469897 Are there any fantasy books worth reading other than LotR?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:44:55 2017 No.10469905 >>10469897 There are many.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:45:38 2017 No.10469908 >>10469905 Name some, please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:47:50 2017 No.10469919 >>10469908 look in the OP faggot

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:53:32 2017 No.10469948
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>>10469908
The Wheel of Time series
The Name on The Wind - king killer series
The Buried Giant
The Last Wish and all of the other Witcher series
Age of Myth - Legends of the first empire serie
GoT
The Crown Tower - The Riyria Chronicles series

To name a few

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:57:56 2017 No.10469974 >>10469626 If you liked the first few seasons of the show, you might want to give it a try.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:04:05 2017 No.10470000 >>10469908 The Conan series by Robert E. Howard

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:08:07 2017 No.10470015 Is Hyperion by Dan Simmons any good? got it for Christmas and am about to pick my next book to read

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:09:10 2017 No.10470020 >>10470015 I see it won the Hugo award so it was received well but I trust you guys better desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:16:33 2017 No.10470056 Any good fantasy with romance that isnt forced? i mean that just isnt "wow, i love you", but built-up along a period of time?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:24:51 2017 No.10470090 >>10469632 the show has passed the books so now it's the other way around

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:29:44 2017 No.10470109 >>10470015 Yeah it bangs. It's a bit all over the place thematically as it's essential several short stories but I enjoyed it immensely. The sequel is a little argued over but it wraps up the stories from the first book wonderfully Endymion are shite

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:40:52 2017 No.10470152 >>10470109 thanks a lot lad, gonna start it now and have it be my first finished book of 2018

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:44:15 2017 No.10470167 Now guys, it's really nice to read books, congratulations, but why dont you WRITE a book? there are very few good books nowdays

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:49:35 2017 No.10470179 >>10470167 I'm trying to problem is everything I write is garbage so even if it were published it wouldn't help the lack of good books much

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:51:29 2017 No.10470187 >>10470179 Nobody is born knowing how to swim anon, belive in urself, and write, with time you will improve. Also, if your setting, story and characters are good prose doesnt mean jackshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:14:49 2017 No.10470267 >>10466832 This, but unironically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:16:00 2017 No.10470271 >>10470167 I'm scared my ideas are too retarded and that no one will like them. I can also never seem to finish them because of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:35:02 2017 No.10470355 >>10470167 too busy

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:35:15 2017 No.10470356 >>10467920 >Females are the only reason there needs to be a last battle in the first place in the WoT series No you fucking retard, it's because author kun is a fucking hack who needs money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:37:50 2017 No.10470365 >>10469626 If your taste is shit enough to like the GoT show, it's definitely shit enough for you to enjoy the books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:43:28 2017 No.10470385 >>10470271 well if youre shy of your books just publish them with an false author name.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:44:24 2017 No.10470388

is there something like a book/audiobook release database?
something where you can just enter a series or author and it notifies you if any new works have been released?
preferably some desktop application or plugin or something for pc. or a phone app.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:48:02 2017 No.10470406
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>>10468500
>"I've had a terrible experience," Leo said, "in Palmer Eldritch's domain. He's a damned magician, Barney. He did all kinds of things with me, things you and I never dreamed of. Turned himself for instance into a little girl, showed me the future, only maybe that was unintentional [...]"
PKD's stuff really needs an animu

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:51:14 2017 No.10470422 >>10470388 What is goodreads.com?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:52:32 2017 No.10470429 >>10470406 or more movies how many have they made already? like 10?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:57:56 2017 No.10470445 >>10468500 wow so this is the power...of the male vagina...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:59:36 2017 No.10470452 >>10467245 But Nynaeve was the tsundere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:00:06 2017 No.10470454 Any books similar to the gentleman bastards? Liked the melding of sort of mystery with fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:02:09 2017 No.10470457 Any good novels with a little girl protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:05:39 2017 No.10470470 >>10470167 I've tried to but I'm not very good at dialogue. I have all the worldbuilding, plots, and characters sorted out well enough that I think they would do well but it doesn't work if I can't write natural dialogue. Always feels really stiff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:27:24 2017 No.10470549 File: 98 KB, 437x659, robert-mckee-dialogue.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10470470 Read this.

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:33:29 2017 No.10470573

>>10470422
a clunky website that updates very slowly and doesnt actually have a good system for classifying and categorizing books because its all community defined.
heck you cant even search for tags or genres instead you have to look through lists that are community made and badly managed.
cant even sort for author gender or specific book tags.
for example if i were want to look for a fantasy book that included a bit of romance id be flooded with 6 trillion entries of smut written by 50 something lonely women that are all about some chick thats been obducted by a tribe of werewolfs that take their turns raping her and shes enjoying it. what i actually want is whaky fantasy adventures where theres a romance sub plot slowly building over the story rather than some chick getting railed by aliens that obducted her.
goodreads isnt a bad site.
but its bad for searching for or organizing books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:34:49 2017 No.10470580 >>10470457 The Golden Compass

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:43:44 2017 No.10470615 >>10470573 there is any viable alternative for goodreads?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:28:43 2017 No.10470790 >>10470615 thats the issue. there isnt. imagine if something like vndb would exist for books. shit would be so fucking great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:12:22 2017 No.10470911 >>10470385 It'll still hurt on the inside though

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:36:56 2017 No.10470985 >>10470573 isfdb has tags, but I don't think it tracks author gender. Great site for SFF bibliographic info though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:40:13 2017 No.10470996 >>10470452 Nynaeve isn't Tsundere at all. She's only a bitch to the other females and Mat. And to be fair the vast majority of those people deserve it. Including Mat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:40:35 2017 No.10470997 >>10470985 its great for old stuff but it doesnt update much beyond the most main stream books unfortunately.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:45:45 2017 No.10471011 >>10466309 >non Cosmere >YA shit Ha, no.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:08:39 2017 No.10471085 So how many of you are working on your own sffg novel?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:06:26 2017 No.10471277 >>10470549 dl'd, thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:16:26 2017 No.10471308 >>10470167 30k words in, anon. How good it'll be, well... Well.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:25:36 2017 No.10471340

>>10470167
Turns out that spending your entire life locked in your room alone reading books leads to an absolute inability to write human interaction or create interesting or likeable characters. I can write enough worldbuilding to break your knees, but God help me I can't even imagine what people look like without reference photos, let alone how they think and interact with eachother.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:31:54 2017 No.10471357

>>10471340
I'd argue that's a non-issue. You shouldn't be writing your dialogue the way people would speak, you should be writing it the way people should* speak. Very few examples of good dialogue in this genre, or any story telling, successfully hinge on grounded realism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:41:43 2017 No.10471397 >>10471340 dont try to write dialogue like people actually speak, that would be boring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:42:28 2017 No.10471589 Is it possible to write a story that involves time travel and is not too retarded? Does such a book exist? I want to read something that involves time travel and hopefully doesn't have too many inconsistencies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:43:24 2017 No.10471593 >>10471589 BotNS Slaughterhouse five

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:47:03 2017 No.10471609 >>10471593 >BotNS Wait, what? I had no idea it involved time travel. How much emphasis is made on that?

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:51:27 2017 No.10471628

>>10464886
>>what new knowledge did you learn from sff books in 2017?
NYC 2140 taught me that Global Warming has truly fucked us and corporations will still try to make a buck off of it, after they've been bailed out from the economic colapse it will cause
>>what new joys did you encounter from sff books in 2017?
not sure
I did find the comic Sword of Ages which is a pretty trippy Planetary Romance-esque work
>>how many books did you explore?
94 books read this year, but that covers a lot more than SF&F

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:56:49 2017 No.10471646

>>10468447
>dialogue in a book feels scripted
wut
>>10468732
what classic sf does he emulate? I cant really see anything else in his work
There is a style of space opera/hyper sf, but thats not specific works
At best, maybe BotNS for the gothic technological decay?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:16:37 2017 No.10471717 >>10470790 I would like a rateyourmusic or letterboxd for books pls

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 02:45:47 2017 No.10471808 Is Lyonesse any good? I've seen it recommended often but I read the description for the first book and it sort of sounds like a romance novel, not sure I'd enjoy that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:52:30 2017 No.10471961 >>10471589 11/22/63 believe it or not. i dont usually like stephen king but that book is pure kino

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 03:54:52 2017 No.10471964 >>10467433 Perdido Street Station if you want New Weird that leans toward fantasy, Embassytown if you want New Weird that leans toward sci-fi. I've seen people that prefer The Scar or The City and the city but they're far more conventional works.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 04:12:19 2017 No.10471989 >>10470457 The diary if anne frank. Its my favorite fantasy novel

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:28:07 2017 No.10472079 >>10471646 I wasn't really saying he emulates older work, more than he's as lazy with characterisation as Asimov or other somewhat pulpy authors

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 06:57:09 2017 No.10472225 >>10471609 >How much emphasis is made on that? Both a lot and almost nothing at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:38:10 2017 No.10472310 >>10471964 They seem interesting (especially Perdido Street Station), thanks my dude.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 07:55:10 2017 No.10472349 >>10471808 Lyonesse is great, the worst thing about it is that the ending to the trilogy is quite rushed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:12:11 2017 No.10472375 >>10465512 nigger where you in some opposite alternate cosmere universe or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:20:40 2017 No.10472385 >>10472375 He is just a retarded faggot brainwashed by all the /pol/ shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:24:00 2017 No.10472391 >>10468946 which character did you think was weak?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:25:03 2017 No.10472393 >>10469735 kill yourself you stupid fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 08:26:14 2017 No.10472395 >>10472385 makes sense

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:13:47 2017 No.10472470 File: 144 KB, 600x600, 1414126567303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you can almost feel yourself getting close to a finished piece of work.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:18:14 2017 No.10472482 >>10472470 browsing 4chan while taking a shit again i see

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 09:44:28 2017 No.10472541 >>10472391 Not him but I remember the love interest guy feeling very stiff and underwhelming. In SA Lift and Shallan are also pretty bad. I like Sanderson but don't pretend he doesn't make you cringe at least once a book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:07:47 2017 No.10472605 >>10472541 dalisyl when?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:35:26 2017 No.10472679 >>10472605 But why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 10:52:03 2017 No.10472734 >>10472605 >Dalisyl >>>/b/raize

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:39:37 2017 No.10472912 >>10472734 huh...wat?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:45:25 2017 No.10472935 File: 168 KB, 671x603, 1507170782870.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why the fuck did siuan die? wasnt she suposed to live a good life as bryne's wife after the last war? fuck this shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:47:10 2017 No.10472942 What's the scifi equivalent of The Silmarillion?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:53:33 2017 No.10472962 >>10472942 the one where ends in "and there was light", about a supercomputer i believe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:59:40 2017 No.10472994 >>10472962 >>10472942 The Last Question. I love that one. It's a very short story and it's available on the internet so if you haven't read it already you should do so immediately

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:07:11 2017 No.10473024 >>10472994 you are a fagot

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:09:40 2017 No.10473036

So my last fantasy book was The Name of the Wind and spoiled the genre for me for the past two years.What books will wash the bad taste away?I haven't read any books on the OP but have been hearing a lot about The Way of Kings.Which of those books should be my first priority?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:17:28 2017 No.10473066 >>10473024 wtf dude

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:18:45 2017 No.10473072 >>10472962 way to spoil the ending but The Last Question by Asimov is one of the all time greats of sci fi short stories

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:25:54 2017 No.10473103 >>10473036 warbreaker

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:26:23 2017 No.10473106 >>10473036 Warbreaker. Gives you a taste of Sanderson's writing style within a story that can be enjoyed on its own. Or The Emperor's Soul.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:35:00 2017 No.10473137 >>10473103 >>10473106 thanks will check them out

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 13:14:41 2017 No.10473292 >>10472349 Huh... it's always sad when that happens for whatever reason but I still want to check it out. Is it out of print or something? I don't mind getting the Kindle version but all the physical copies I've seen are pretty expensive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 14:13:55 2017 No.10473578 >>10472470 >when you want to stalk hyoo-mens in the forest but your brood sisters didn't tell you your shorts were unbuttoned

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:20:37 2017 No.10474142 What are some books with weird xenophile sex scenes, but not purely porn? Mieville got me interested in bug people

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:21:12 2017 No.10474143 What's a good book about Transhumanism? Something with a lot of human augmentation, cyborgs and shit like that. Only Sci-fi I've ever read is Fahrenheit 451

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 17:13:16 2017 No.10474371 File: 381 KB, 783x615, 1514651389841.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Happy New Year, /sffg/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 17:51:28 2017 No.10474549 File: 36 KB, 571x559, 1500157363156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10474371 HAPPY NEW YEAR ANON

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 17:58:19 2017 No.10474575 >>10474371 >>10474549 Who are these semen demens?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:07:34 2017 No.10474621 >tfw drunk and reading alone on new tears eve Feels good, man.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:08:27 2017 No.10474624
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>>10474575
Seriously? Just Google Fate/stay night and go play the VN. It's mostly text and Fate has a huge universe you can move on with afterwards. Plus, it's a hentai game in origin. But I'll have mercy on your soul for now... matou_sakura tag on gelbooru

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:21:00 2017 No.10474669

I have a ski trip coming up and want to get a book to bring with me. Any recs? Of the last few books I tried:

>loved
BotNS
Lord of Light

>hated
Name of the Wind
A Mote In God's Eye

Dialogue that makes me cringe is an instant turnoff for me, even for an otherwise-interesting book; hence not liking those two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:22:09 2017 No.10474675 >>10474669 what didn't you like about their dialogue

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:28:45 2017 No.10474705 >>10474669 >Dialogue that makes me cringe is an instant turnoff for me You'll love Lies of Locke Lamora then

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:31:40 2017 No.10474719

>>10474675
It was apparent in both that the author was writing how they thought humans talked to each other and that they didn't actually know anything about that. In BotNS and Lord of Light, dialogue didn't really make any attempts at being "realistic" (from a modern point of view,) so there wasn't anything about it being uncanny to put me off.

It also helps if the author doesn't have some shit opinions like the authors of Mote in God's Eye did (i.e. proposing to the US government that they should spread rumors in Mexican communities that hospitals are going to steal their organs to keep them out,) but I do like Lovecraft and enjoyed Ender's Game back in like high school so I can look past some stuff.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:32:51 2017 No.10474725
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>>10474675
Maybe he didn't like the fact that they're YA tier? Rothfuss is garbage for women and children.
>>10474669
Did you start Prince of Nothing yet? Then again, that's pretty heavy for a trip. Maybe read Blade Itself or something lighter like that. And you can't go wrong with some classics like Howard or Lovecraft.
You could also get Thucydides' Peloponnesian War, the segments are very short.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 18:34:31 2017 No.10474730 >>10474669 You might like Latro in the Mist, another book by Gene Wolfe

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 19:33:44 2017 No.10474940 >always the same old books and authors getting recommended >no one ever recommends anything or anyone new I want the dinosaurs to leave.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 19:45:12 2017 No.10474975 >>10474940 People should write better shit A really good sf/f book comes out like once every five years

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 19:46:42 2017 No.10474985 >>10474975 Maybe you should try actually reading more new stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:04:14 2017 No.10475049 File: 30 KB, 802x151, mat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hm... is mat a hero of the horn?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:17:24 2017 No.10475109 >>10475049 >They looked so, well, heroic What book is this so I know to avoid it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:20:18 2017 No.10475123 What's some sci-fi about artificial intelligence that is more or less up-to-date with compsci (i.e. machine learning, genetic algorithms, all those memes)?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:32:40 2017 No.10475173 >>10475123 >machine learning, genetic algorithms, all those memes neil stephenson's next novel will probably feature a cs101 level understanding and shoehorned implementation of those topics, so just sit tight for a while

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:43:27 2017 No.10475213 >>10475109 relax dude, its this expecific character that talks this way, but he is one of the best characters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:09:21 2017 No.10475306 >>10474143 >Only Sci-fi I've ever read is Fahrenheit 451 Woot? >What's a good book about Transhumanism? Altered Carbon Agent Cormac series by Neal Asher

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:16:02 2017 No.10475341 >>10475306 >Woot? Doesn't it count as Sci-fi? It had robot dogs. Thanks for the suggestions m8, Altered Carbon sounds interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:35:19 2017 No.10475420 >>10475173 I kinda want it now though, doesn't need to spell out any of those concepts, if the author is aware of them when he builds his characters then it's more than enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:49:16 2017 No.10475473 >>10472470 That's one of the dumbest outfits I've seen.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 21:57:22 2017 No.10475506 File: 40 KB, 453x566, 908fe-armorclasscastanics.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10475473

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:02:53 2017 No.10475530 File: 296 KB, 2518x1024, 1514775773255.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Straight from the Anonymous: some terra ignota meme shit or something. spoilers for Too Like The Lightning, Seven Surrenders, and The Will To Battle

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:29:39 2017 No.10475613
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>wheel of time
watafuck this ending?
Did rand's soul really go to moridin body or it was a weave? also, did he became a god or something, he cant channel but now he only needs to desire, he's basically the creator on flesh now.
ALSO WHY THE FUCK DID HE GO AWAY WITHOUT MIN ELAYNE AND AVIENDHA?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:48:52 2017 No.10475694 >>10473292 Spatterlight Press has some nice paperbacks of Lyonesse. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1619470918

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:10:15 2017 No.10475770 >>10471989 Under appreciated post

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:11:22 2017 No.10475773

>>10473292
It wasn't that bad, it certainly didn't ruin it. Without spoiling what goes on, I definitely was near the end of the third book and wondering when the fuck this clearly impending huge war was going to start, then it was all over in about a chapter.

To be fair, there were two things going on: first, Lyonesse is really not a "war story", and second, that's the price you pay for an author wrapping everything up in three books instead of eight.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:14:13 2017 No.10475784 >>10475530 Pascal is literally rape.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:32:50 2017 No.10475848 >>10475613 He knocked up 3 women, dude, he doesn't want to be anywhere near that unholy mess. He gets to chill with some peace and solitude for the first time in years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:34:29 2017 No.10475853 >>10475109 >autist gets mad because every character doesn't wax poetic like he's from fucking Shakespeare

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:42:42 2017 No.10475876 >>10475613 I am more sad at egwene, he got away as a fuckin god and she died after so much strife, i hoped she was going to be the amyrlin after tarmon gaidon, sad. Her's and gawyn's deaths were easily the saddest parts of the last book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:43:50 2017 No.10475878 >>10475613 They literally just dyed his hair with the same shit Elayne and Nynaeve use earlier in the series when they're hiding in the circus. Rand and Moridin already looked basically the same.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:46:14 2017 No.10475885 >>10475878 how do you explain the hand? Even he wondered if he was in moridin body or not, but how could he have two rands again?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:47:18 2017 No.10475886 >>10475613 I wonder what he's doing now. Dicing and driking ale like mat?

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:47:55 2017 No.10475888

>>10475885
When they're outside of the Pattern, recognition equals reality. Rand, while he was caught up remaking the pattern, was envisaging his body as whole, because that's the way your mind works. Since that way the way he was recognizing it, that is what it became.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:50:03 2017 No.10475892 >>10475886 It's pretty obvious he'd want to be a Gleeman.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:52:33 2017 No.10475896

>>10475888
you mean now he can weave the pattern INSIDE THE PATTERN? If so i could believe it, he made moridin corpse into his own, and his own into mordin's.
I wonder how people can say wheel of time is shit, it may be slow but its amazing.Only shame was that sanderson rushed things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:55:01 2017 No.10475899 >>10475896 That's what he did at the end to light the pipe, but honestly I think it would have been much better if he'd actually been completely depowered and was just a regular normie again.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:00:52 2018 No.10475910

>>10475899
it just makes sense.
When he accepts himself(the dragon, lews therin) he became almost capable of weaving the pattern, he became a force of life which made at will, life grow, and light appear.
When he accepts himself as the force of light and shaitan as the necessary force of evil for the freedom of humanity, he becomes what he truly is with all power it attains, i believe he cannot weave the power anymore because he became jesus, he doesnt need, just like the creater dont need to weave, neither does he.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:26:19 2018 No.10475963 File: 54 KB, 318x463, 6080337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any recommendations for good SF/F with a female protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:27:57 2018 No.10475970 >>10475420 I was kinda thinking about writing something like that since I work with them but I don't really know what to do with them in a story without retreading Asimov's material.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:32:29 2018 No.10476083 File: 571 KB, 1588x2500, starchart_sel_color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10474143 Diamond Dogs by Alastair Reynolds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:33:38 2018 No.10476085 >>10474940 but I do all the time, you just never read them nobody's read Cold Allies nobody's read Hardwired you haven't read Radix, I know because I haven't you haven't even read Son of the Black Sword

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:36:27 2018 No.10476089 File: 478 KB, 1638x2441, OB_NAVANI-SHIPS_ebook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10476085 >tfw waiting literal years for anyone to read Radix I hate all of you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:36:34 2018 No.10476090 File: 39 KB, 318x469, The_Pride_of_Chanur.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10475963

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:36:49 2018 No.10476091

>>10475963

I recently read Binti and the sequel by Nnedi Okorafor and thought it was very good. A bit on the YA side but it's about a young woman from southwest Africa going to space and wrestling with who she is and survivors guilt (aliens attack the space ship taking her to Prestigious Space University.)

David Drake's RCN series has a middle-aged librarian as one of the main characters who ends up doing spy/hacking stuff for the military.

Honor Harrington by David Weber, the classic "Hornblower in Space" series. I strongly suggest reading it Dune style: just stop whenever you can't take it any more, because the writing quality drops a noticeable amount and Honor gets retconned into being a Mary Sue.

Vatta's War series by Elizabeth Moon: A young officer from a merchant shipping family fucks up and is kicked out of her planet's military service, her family gives her a old freighter to get her out of the public eye.

LMMB's Vorkosigan Saga has a number of women who are either protagonists or viewpoint characters. Shards of Honor and Barrayar for example are about a middle-aged starship captain as the main character.

The Angel in the Whirlwind series by Christopher G. Nuttall is another one of those "young officer in command!" stories. However it's notable because she isn't a savant like Honor Harrington and defers to more experienced subordinates as needed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:38:04 2018 No.10476095 File: 61 KB, 817x720, 1499751241753.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10475963 The Traitor Baru Cormorant

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:40:48 2018 No.10476099 >>10476085 >nobody's read Hardwired I have. Some time ago though, don't remember much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:42:05 2018 No.10476100 >>10476099 Oh wait, you didn't mean the Walter Jon Williams, did you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:46:16 2018 No.10476109 >>10475963 Adam Roberts, Stone Neal Stephenson, The Diamond Age John Barnes, Orbital Resonance

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:47:18 2018 No.10476110 >>10476100 Yeah. I got through half of it, the tank was pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:34:47 2018 No.10476283 >>10475694 I'm not a burger so I'd have to pay extra for shipping but those DO look very nice. Thanks for pointing this out m8 >>10475773 Fair enough. I don't know if I'd have the attention span for reading 8 books anyway.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 04:08:37 2018 No.10476340
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>Oathbringer
>It's another "the humans are actually the bad guys" episode

Am I the only one who didn't find this point compelling AT ALL? The Alethi are like the ultimate mindlessly imperialistic feudal society, their ENTIRE SHTICK is that war is good, slavery is okay and killing people is awesome, this is one of the religious foundations of their entire deranged culture, why are they all taking this whole singing marbleniggers were the original inhabitants of Roshar thing so hard?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 04:36:01 2018 No.10476372 Where's the Solarpunk at?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 04:59:40 2018 No.10476401 >>10476372 It is in the trash.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:03:39 2018 No.10476405

>>10476283
>I don't know if I'd have the attention span for reading 8 books anyway.

I've been harping on this for a while, but one of the most underrated reasons to read old SFF is that authors knew how to wrap up their fucking stories. Sometimes (and Lyonesse is an example) things can get a bit rushed. But I'd rather be left wanting a bit more than having a concept stretched past its limit before being run into the fucking ground.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:18:58 2018 No.10476416

>>10476340
Alethi aren't, other nations and radients are, especially windfucks are with their honor shtick. And actually humans aren't that bad and considering how much detail is still not known it's strange that so much attention was given to the revelation and validity not even questioned by Jasnah. Chances are parshmen gods were doing shady shit so while humans freedomed themselves some land for themselves it's possible that the gods were very set on eradicating them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:32:27 2018 No.10476428 File: 16 KB, 260x260, tbhfam.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10466818 E-readers are good for authors like this. >what's that? a word I don't know? y'all mind if I... CLICC THAT SHIT????

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:33:29 2018 No.10476431 >>10467218 Don't get cucked by the sunk costs bias. Don't read it if you don't want to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:34:22 2018 No.10476433 >>10476428 Fuck e-readers they are the reason I have to wait months for paperback editions of books I want.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:36:33 2018 No.10476437 >>10475109 Written by Brandon Sanderson

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 05:53:35 2018 No.10476457 >>10476428 >they are the reason I have to wait months for paperback editions of books Why is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 06:42:16 2018 No.10476521 >>10476457 Because before ebooks paperbacks used to get released straight away. Now the ebook releases first, then the hardback and then several months later the paperback is released. They do this to increase the sale if the ebook version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 07:54:41 2018 No.10476619 >>10468856 I checked it out. did not like it. Its mildly better than everyday girls YA but not by much. I also did not like Elantris and few other of his works so maybe I just don't get him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 07:57:08 2018 No.10476623 >>10468321 There are few stories with sword and magic where it turns out they were on a spaceship and magic is just them giving orders to nanomachines but the blending rarely works

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 08:13:25 2018 No.10476633 >>10468376 oh in that case B O T N S O T N S

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:11:19 2018 No.10476700 >>10475530 >meat sweer monthly drippings from his cunt >his Wtf...

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:28:45 2018 No.10476736
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>>10476085
>Son of the Black Sword
This was shilled a few years ago in the general.
I read it in 2016/2015. It kinda started nice but ended up shitting the bed. That is why I told you not to read it a few days ago.

>>10474940
I'm anti dino as they come. I shilled multiple new books over the years. They don't want them.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:36:49 2018 No.10476858 >>10476736 >Ringworld >Modern It's 50 years old, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:05:54 2018 No.10476926 >>10476858 It's quite a feat that some people don't know the difference between modern and contemporary on the literature board of all places.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:15:35 2018 No.10476951 Any series where the protagonist fucks a MILF? Asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:21:22 2018 No.10476966 >>10476951 BotNS There's nothing it can't do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:50:34 2018 No.10477041 File: 612 KB, 1590x2500, illo_sixth_of_the_dusk.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10476340 What. There are more humans than just the Alethi, baka. The Cosmere implications of humans moving to Roshar is the interesting part.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:54:37 2018 No.10477062
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Is our girl correct in her assumption of Doors of Stone release date?

>For the longest time, folks were always dismayed by my assertion that 2017 was the earliest we could possibly expect book three. Now I'm pretty sure you're looking at 2022 or later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 11:59:58 2018 No.10477082 >>10477062 >15 fucking years Tolkien spent 12 years on The Lord of the Rings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:01:02 2018 No.10477086 File: 57 KB, 1100x740, tolkienhed[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10477082 And he didn't publish until he'd written the entire thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:11:52 2018 No.10477111 File: 558 KB, 720x404, GRRM A Song of Bubbles and RC Cars.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10477062 Maybe will get TWoW in the meantime.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:23:30 2018 No.10477160

>>10476340
All of Alethi society is based on competition for the Almighty to fight in the Tranquiline Halls after death. Humans destroyed the Tranquiline Halls and brought Odium to Roshar. that's a pretty big deal. Remember also that Honor went mad near the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:27:03 2018 No.10477181 >>10476966 which book is this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:38:31 2018 No.10477226 File: 530 KB, 1800x678, botns.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10477181 The Book of the New Sun

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:43:25 2018 No.10477240

>>10477062
He needs to stay ahead of the curve on his cuck game and needs to keep rewriting his character. He doesn't want the book to come out and his cuck game be totally dated, he needs cutting edge cucking. Society is moving too fast for him down that slippery slope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 13:39:09 2018 No.10477495 >>10476966 who of Sev's many fucks was a milf?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:12:10 2018 No.10477624 >>10466540 im like 3/4 finished from finishing red seas under red skies and cant bring myself to keep reading... it really went to shit after about the first third. does Republic of thieves better?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:15:17 2018 No.10477634 File: 42 KB, 200x294, Shadow_of_the_torturer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10477226 I'm almost finished with the first book, it seems kinda slow and boring for now. Is it going to pay off later?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:30:08 2018 No.10477670

>>10476405
>tfw The Broken Sword is a nine-volume epic fantasy stuffed into a very large novella
>tfw The High Crusade is a Baen HFY trilogy stuffed into a short novel
>tfw The Star Fox is a science fiction trilogy stuffed into a short story trilogy with a science fiction sequel trilogy stuffed into a short novel
The brevity of the old masters is astounding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:31:34 2018 No.10477675 >>10476416 >it's strange that so much attention was given to the revelation and validity not even questioned by Jasnah That was the weirdest part, nobody going "well duh the ancient parsh would try to write that crap."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:32:37 2018 No.10477681 >>10476853 underrated, but needs more text

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:33:38 2018 No.10477684 >>10477495 His grandmother

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:39:49 2018 No.10477708 >>10477634 no this book is a meme stay away from it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:40:52 2018 No.10477715 Just begun the mistborn shit, i know the protag will be a woman will she be a whore? will she get the dick?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:41:32 2018 No.10477719 >>10477715 Shush, you sexist pig.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:41:35 2018 No.10477720 >>10477715 no presumably yes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:45:35 2018 No.10477740 File: 33 KB, 327x499, 51u3Fh9ApWL._SX325_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just started reading Cyteen. First dozen pages are alright. Anyone else read it? How do you rate it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 14:46:10 2018 No.10477743 >>10477495 That is revealed in book 4. Also probably Jolenta? Don't remember if it was explicit that she had kids. >>10477634 Books 1 and 4 are a bit slow, 2 and 3 have a lot of action.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:19:40 2018 No.10478134 is there any believable way to have a woman raped by an eldritch abomination without her being involved with a cult?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:20:52 2018 No.10478142 >>10478134 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:21:25 2018 No.10478144 >>10478134 she's kidnapped in order to be the victim of a ritual to give birth to a half abomination. Just read lovecraft fag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:25:28 2018 No.10478157 >>10478144 that still involves a cult though. I don't want any cult involved

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:27:36 2018 No.10478164 how about this? >it steals the flesh and form of a judge in a competition relevant to its goals >rapes the most qualified woman of child-bearing age >discards the hollowed out corpse of the judge

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:29:32 2018 No.10478177 File: 264 KB, 663x1024, neonomicontpb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10478134 Hi Alan

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:31:16 2018 No.10478182 File: 427 KB, 1907x1016, 15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] c: pleasant sharp

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:35:27 2018 No.10478199 >>10476428 It's a very useful feature for reading Patrick O'Brian. Being able to quickly look up old nautical terms helps a lot with easing a new reader into the world of 19th century sailing.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:47:59 2018 No.10478249

>>10478134
>>10478157
>A portal opens in her toilet and tentacles come out
>A dream monster literally mind fucks her
>One day she's walking down the street and a deformed man jumps out of the bushes and rapes her
burglar, shapeshifter in the guise of a boyfriend, orgy gone wrong, haunted pants, possessed dildo, unbirth of a demonic baby, sexually aggressive horse attack, supernatural dentist visit, golden rape rain

How are you having trouble with this? I'll never understand how people have so much trouble thinking of ideas by themselves? Is it some sort of mental disorder? Or am I just a super genius? Can I get a 5 figures starting job as a professional idea guy?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:54:02 2018 No.10478293 >>10470457 The diamond age by neal stephenson

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:06:16 2018 No.10478364 >>10478173 >>10478182 >>10478284 >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:27:22 2018 No.10478472 >>10475109 The name Mat alone is enough for me to ragedrop right then and there

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:41:43 2018 No.10478538 >>10478472 this is the most autistic thing I've read in this general in weeks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:53:59 2018 No.10478592 >>10477062 I hope Cuckfuss dies and it never gets released. Way too much of the plot revolves around finding/losing Slutna and the 'genius' MC never even considers taking a hair and making a compass that points to the flighty whore

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:58:38 2018 No.10478605 >>10476951 Trysmoon series (the milf and the daughter fight over his cock).

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 18:04:27 2018 No.10478629 >>10478134 Academic researcher into the occult, other dimensions or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 19:37:03 2018 No.10479120 >tfw just finished Fall of Hyperion This was great, lads. Continue on to Endymion?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 19:44:57 2018 No.10479146 >>10479120 what is the book about?

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 20:19:29 2018 No.10479248

>>10479146
first book starts out as a ''canterbury'' tales of sorts with travelers going to a far off planet that has some weird shit going on thinking a weird being will grant them different shit (depending on their story). They each share their backstory on why they're returning and that's the whole book.

The second book is a bit longer and involves them at the place with the being with some war going on as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:08:49 2018 No.10479738 Starting the Discworld series to kick off the new year, what am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:11:57 2018 No.10479748 >>10479120 NO. Do not continue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:16:36 2018 No.10479770 Redpill me on mistborn

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:22:04 2018 No.10479794 >>10479770 written by a mormon

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:23:00 2018 No.10479798

>>10479770
You see, I was merely PRETENDING to write a shitty book! Fooled you didn't I? All those poorly written characters and cliched generic backstories were part of my cunning plan to trick you into thinking this entire series was bland and uninteresting!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:25:22 2018 No.10479809 >>10479798 eh what? >>10479794 So what? i've read wheel of time and it was pretty good.

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 22:30:11 2018 No.10479828

>>10479770
>>10479794
since i shitposted i feel obligated to actually give a non-shitpost
ive watched the recordings of the courses Sanderson did for a college class, have not actually read Mistborn
however, based on his attitude towards writing and the snippets I have read, i can safely say that he is the michael bay of the book world
it's a bit more highbrow than transformers but only because book fans are very slightly harder to please than retards stuffing their faces with popcorn
it is stuff that is formulated for him to make as much money as possible
any meaningful message worked into the story is incidental to that

on that topic, him being a mormon pretty much fucks up my desire to learn anything from whatever messages he does include
beautiful books come from beautiful minds
mormonism does not come from or produce those

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 00:59:23 2018 No.10480261 >>10477740 It's good. You really have to like political drama though. Regenesis even more so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:04:09 2018 No.10480280 >>10479828 Mistborn is a perfectly serviceable book. Michael Bay would write airport novel thrillers. I mean come on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:09:53 2018 No.10480302 >>10480280 you can swap out michael bay for whatever other "serviceable" filmmaker you want point is in my eyes he's interested in writing mass-appeal with nothing beneath the mass-appeal to prop it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:10:00 2018 No.10480303 >>10480280 this, Sanderson has his weaknesses, but he has his strengths as well, and the uniqueness of the magical system in Mistborn is one of it's biggest strengths

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:14:07 2018 No.10480317

>>10480303
>the uniqueness of the magical system
this is something i guess i've never got about the like /r/fantasy and goodreads crowds
they always talk about "unique magic systems" but i dont know why
like what does that actually do for you? i can see it being used to keep people entertained in a YA adventure but i would hope that most adult readers are looking for something a bit more meaningful in their fantasy
going heavy on detail of a "magic system" just seems to me like it does nothing but sever the storytelling from having any possible connection to real life, or at least applicable morals, philosophy, whatever

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:14:53 2018 No.10480320 NEW THREAD >>10480312 >>10480312 >>10480312 >>10480312

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 05:26:28 2018 No.10480728 >>10476951 Time Enough for Love feature the MC fucking his mother with his fathers consent. Also fucking a bunch of other milfs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 05:32:59 2018 No.10480732 >>10472935 I remember everybody using spoilers when they discussed WoT with you while you were still reading the early books. Why don't you return the favor you piece of shit?

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