If no one reads a book, but it contains incredibly important new revolutionary knowledge that could change the course of the species drastically for eternity, should the author consider it a failure or a great achievement for himself?

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If no one reads a book, but it contains incredibly important new revolutionary knowledge that could change the course of the species drastically for eternity, should the author consider it a failure or a great achievement for himself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 18:48:28 2017 No.10439779 Goonan! it's been a while, how's life treatin' ya?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:28:17 2017 No.10439936 >>10439779 Did you read the book?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:38:43 2017 No.10439973 >>10439761 https://www.amazon.com/Foundation-Exploration-Sean-Goonan/dp/1539970787 Strange reviews

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:39:06 2017 No.10439974 get help

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:40:12 2017 No.10439980 File: 201 KB, 1536x571, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think it's safe to assume it does not

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>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:47:07 2017 No.10440006 File: 169 KB, 1536x794, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wtf?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:49:03 2017 No.10440012

>>10439761
A failure, the whole purpose of the book is to communicate and spread knowledge of the author.

An author might try and take solace in the idea that perhaps future generations might rediscover it or that it was rejected because of its power but these tend to be coping mechanisms and rationalisations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 19:52:24 2017 No.10440027 >>10440012 Fuck you; go back to your kike masters. One day you will be begging for my mercy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:01:16 2017 No.10440052 >>10440012 What would you say to this though- Whether or not people read a book does not have anything to do with the accomplishment of its creation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:03:26 2017 No.10440058 >>10440052 There is more meaningful and widely read Harry Potter fan fiction. What the fuck is your point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:04:02 2017 No.10440061 >>10440058 What are you talking about buddy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:06:46 2017 No.10440067 >>10439761 Kill yourself, Sean.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:07:44 2017 No.10440071 >>10440067 That's a bit harsh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:07:53 2017 No.10440072 >>10440067 You should kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:08:45 2017 No.10440074 >>10440061 Yudkowsky, desu. He's like you, if you had something to offer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:09:52 2017 No.10440079 >>10440006 >>10439973 >>10439994 What does what a few random people say about a book have to do with the content of the book?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:10:21 2017 No.10440082 >>10440067 Fuck you, kike. My intelligence will not be brought down by your Talmudic bullshit. Now go cry to papa Soros.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:12:16 2017 No.10440092

>>10440027
If the purpose is not to communicate the knowledge or the author the only other real measure of success is whether the author did it for money or pleasure. If its for money and no one reads it then it is a commercial failure. The only measure of achievement left then is simply whether the author enjoyed writing it or not.

As for the latter remember that the overwhelming majority of humanities papers/books will never be cited or referenced by other authors (and even in the social sciences its still around the 50-60% mark). Secondly If you don't believe me you can experience this firsthand. Large university libraries sell of excess books every few years or so, when they have such a sale you can go there and see hundreds of books decades old but borrowed and in mint condition each made by those who sought to share their knowledge with the world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:12:23 2017 No.10440094 >>10440079 It says that the dummies who read your book didn't like it. That tells us a ton.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:12:44 2017 No.10440095 >>10440074 So you read The Foundation for Exploration in its entirety?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:16:14 2017 No.10440106 >>10440092 Please stop kvetchig in my face, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:18:01 2017 No.10440112 >>10440095 It's free online. There's so little depth, it was a quick scan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:19:59 2017 No.10440123 >>10440112 Read it in its entirety, front to back as it was intended.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:22:13 2017 No.10440135

>The most important organization of thought in the history of our species. Human history will forever be classified as this: Before-Foundation, After-Foundation. Groundbreaking understanding of free will, power, the sexual nature of man and woman, and what it takes to actualize society's potential in order to bring true happiness. Contents: Preface- Understanding the necessity of working with subjectivity. Introduction- The Question: Should I continue to exist? Basis of philosophical thought in creating an existence that allows humanity to thrive. Section 1: Welcome to Not Nothing- The duality of human nature- rejection and destruction, or acceptance and building given the inherent structure of existence which is- "We have free will, we are not all powerful, we are not all knowing, and we experience the universe with a biological framework and consciousness." Section 2: Destruction and Building- Cultivating power, facing powerlessness. Path of destruction involves a lack of self-control, courage, wonder, and/or humor, with the person succumbing to powerlessness through either wrath, depression, madness, hedonism, or ignorance due to the lack. Path of building involves self-control, courage, wonder, and a sense of humor. Section 3: Power, Biology and Society- Maintaining a strong society(and individual) through a balancing of the pursuance of our animalistic nature completely with a complete rejection, and a balancing of the desire to obtain all-power and a desire to relinquish all power from oneself. A society comprised of men and women pursuing an animalistic/hedonistic sexual nature will crumble. The polar nature of masculinity in men and femininity in women must be upheld. Section 4: A World Completely Off the Mark- Application of the philosophy into the areas of Government, Politics, Economics, Agriculture, Environment, Crime and Punishment, Mental Illness, The Media/Entertainment/TV/Internet/Porn/Advertising, Lack of Freedom/Technology/Overpopulation/Overcomplication/Globalism, and The Exploration of Outer Space. Focus is in creating a society in which people feel the most power, connection with one another, and connection with the universe.www.thefoundationpress.com
No line breaks; this is how it was written. It sound so unimaginably horribly bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:22:20 2017 No.10440136 >>10440092 It represents tangible truth. There is no purpose or pleasure, it is only truth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:23:14 2017 No.10440139 >>10440123 Why. You're comparing it to Mein Kampf... but for /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:24:36 2017 No.10440144 >>10440135 My Twisted Goonan

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:27:58 2017 No.10440157

>>10440052
Im not the anon in >>10440058

>Whether or not people read a book does not have anything to do with the accomplishment of its creation.

It depends on the purpose behind its creation, and the circumstances of the author. For instance what might be a trite work in the United States would be a very impressive achivement if created and distributed without permission in North Korea.

What was the purpose of this book's creation and what were the circumstances of its author?

>>10440106
Had to google that term as Im not American. What part of my post strikes you whining or complaining?

Here is a source if you think all those numbers were just opinion

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0809/0809.5250.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:30:10 2017 No.10440166 >>10440157 Stop shilling on my board you literal jew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:30:26 2017 No.10440167 >>10440139 >>10440157 Are people retarded? When on an anonymous chat board, do you think every post is by the person you think it is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:31:43 2017 No.10440171 >>10440136 >It represents tangible truth. There is no purpose or pleasure, it is only truth. As a conscious product of the author there is by necessity a purpose being its creation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:32:32 2017 No.10440176 >>10440167 When it's promoting a book, yeah. Obviously. Looking at Amazon, discounting your sock puppets and friends, no one has really read it. So, any post here that's defending this book is clearly you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:33:53 2017 No.10440185 >>10440171 So you're a moron.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:34:33 2017 No.10440190 >>10440171 Does is have to exist for anything but for the sake of the creation of truth?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:36:10 2017 No.10440198 >>10440176 Because no one has ever lied on the internet, right? You don't think faggots pretend to be the author?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:36:15 2017 No.10440199 >>10440190 Cut the shaman shit. What's one worthwhile aphorism from your nest of bullshit?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:37:37 2017 No.10440205

>>10440199
Existing produces mental and physical suffering. Other people or society as a whole can exacerbate suffering produced by existing. The
source of this mental and physical suffering is powerlessness. An individual that feels powerless may reject the conditions that produce
the powerlessness and retaliate through wrath as an attempt to gain power. The attempt to gain power through wrath is either the attempt
to supersede the powerlessness by trying to obtain all the power one can get (which indirectly creates destructiveness in the individual
and society), or the direct destruction of anything that creates powerlessness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:40:33 2017 No.10440213 >>10440205 So you're insane. And babbling.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:41:19 2017 No.10440218 >>10440205 Holy shit, this pseud faux-philosophical brainlet garbage

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:42:47 2017 No.10440221 >>10440213 >>10440218 Cucks, go away.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:45:43 2017 No.10440231

>>10440190
>Does is have to exist for anything but for the sake of the creation of truth?

Not necessarily - afterall do you think fantasy authors create their works for the creation of truth - however the expression or creation of truth can be done in a number of ways.

The fact that someone organises and publishes it as a book demonstrates that it goes well beyond the mere desire to knowledge and record truth - were it otherwise they would be content with one or two personal copies - instead the author wants other people to read it/pay for it ect.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:45:44 2017 No.10440232 >>10440213 >>10440218 More kikes for the gas chamber. You won't keep my people from reading my work. We will rise. We will put you in you ash heap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 20:50:55 2017 No.10440250 >>10440231 Does making it available for others to read have anything to do with the content of the book?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:00:49 2017 No.10440279

>>10440250
>Does making it available for others to read have anything to do with the content of the book?

It depends on why it was made available for other to read. Dostoyevsky and Dickens who relied on the money generated from their books had a vested interest in producing numerous and longer works given how publishers would pay them. Likewise for the person who wishes other people to adopt their ideas the work may well include language designed to speak/appeal to the audiences level of understanding - Newspapers and Journals are a classic example of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:04:26 2017 No.10440291 >>10440279 Forgot to add to this public works also tend to be far less candid than private ones. Hence the divide between what would be written in a diary compared to other types of works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:05:40 2017 No.10440300 >>10440279 If a book is not successful in its initial publication, is it a failure, or are the people a failure?

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:23:04 2017 No.10440367

>>10440300
Its going to have to depend on the nature of the book and audience.

Here is an interesting example for your: When Hubbard first wrote dianetics he first sent it to the peak Psychiatry organisation. They investigated and then rejected his work yet it became a New York Times best seller.

Would you consider this a success or a failure? and in either case which people or person was at fault.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:26:24 2017 No.10440381 >>10440279 >comparing yourself to Dickens & Dostoyevsky. Your book has typos, mate. You are ill. Seek help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:28:07 2017 No.10440386 >>10440367 >>10440300 It's a failure. Its ideas are stale, there are mistakes grammatical & logical throughout. It's a mess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:29:17 2017 No.10440388 >>10440386 >>10440381 When did you read it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:31:30 2017 No.10440397 >>10440381 >>10440386 Seek help.

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Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:44:57 2017 No.10440441

>contains incredibly important new revolutionary knowledge
>that could change the course of the species >drastically
>for eternity
...
>If a woman is in a relationship the man in the relationship is a cuck and/or a menace if he enjoys/allows the showcasing of his woman.
???????

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:47:05 2017 No.10440446

>>10440397
I have written the most important organization of thought in human history. I have discovered the most true understanding of human nature ever, as well as the most necessary course of action to lead to individual and and societal True Happiness. I would like to get across to people that this is so. My ideas will lead to the end of pointless unnecessary destructiveness and excessive suffering. All other discussion and course of action is futile. Focus must be made towards understanding and enacting The Foundation for Exploration.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:49:24 2017 No.10440451 >>10440446 Christ loves you, brother. Even if you don't love yourself. And what a shame it is not to love God's creation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 21:52:05 2017 No.10440457 >>10440451 What Mein Kampf was for the rise of the Nazi Party, this book will be for the rise of the brotherhood of /pol/ into becoming the most powerful group on Earth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:00:13 2017 No.10440483 >>10440446 Given your understanding of human nature should you not know the best way to reach a corrupt and inperfect public?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:02:58 2017 No.10440490 >>10440483 They won't listen. I fear my intellect may be out of reach for many. Please buy my book.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:03:09 2017 No.10440491

It’s pretty embarrassing desu. If there is anything that so painful embodies the death of the west it’s the fact that a 23 year old who’s stated ‘biggest influences’ are just the high school canon can write not even a book but an extended essay and think they’ve done something important. I can at least respect that Lauren Southern knew she was going to make some money from her 90 page pile of amazon delivered garbage.

Hey Sean, you want to know what the difference between you, and the great thinkers of history is? They all spent years and year studying deeply on every subject they came across, and were also completely up to date on the cutting edge of what it was they were investigating. Name me a great thinker who *actually* came in from the woods, presenting something radically new with little to no knowledge of the subjects their there intervening in.

If you want to actually do something profound, plan to spend the next decade studying. Read Freud, Marx, Spengler, Weber, Darwin, learn mathematics, physics, read history, listen to Rick Roderick, read The Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, or Jordan fckin Peterson, read some Zizek, Butler, Laclau, Mark Fisher, see what Wittgenstein, Quine, Kripke, Grice, Dennett, Putnam, Davidson, Chalmers, and Lewis has to say, also be sure to check out the thought of Heidegger, Gadamer, Derrida, Foucault, Deleuze, and Badiou. Read Shakespeare, Balzac, Goethe, Faulkner, Gladis, and David Foster Wallace. Read up on the Brenner debate, know the difference between Hobsbawm and AJY Taylor, have a favourite historian.

Once you’ve done at least that, then you are starting to approach a place where you can write some sort of grand theory.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:11:36 2017 No.10440516

>>10440491
>If you want to actually do something profound, plan to spend the next decade studying. Read Freud, Marx, Spengler, Weber, Darwin, learn mathematics, physics, read history, listen to Rick Roderick, read The Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, or Jordan fckin Peterson, read some Zizek, Butler, Laclau, Mark Fisher, see what Wittgenstein, Quine, Kripke, Grice, Dennett, Putnam, Davidson, Chalmers, and Lewis has to say, also be sure to check out the thought of Heidegger, Gadamer, Derrida, Foucault, Deleuze, and Badiou. Read Shakespeare, Balzac, Goethe, Faulkner, Gladis, and David Foster Wallace. Read up on the Brenner debate, know the difference between Hobsbawm and AJY Taylor, have a favourite historian.
>This is his list of "great thinkers"
Holy. Fucking. Shit. And you're talking about OP being embarrassed. The fucking irony.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:12:02 2017 No.10440517 >>10440483 Its not up to the author of a book to be God. >>10440491 You are a faggot and you should feel bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:14:26 2017 No.10440521 >>10440516 >>10440517 He's right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:17:10 2017 No.10440536 >>10440521 I don't deny that "he" (you, you samefagging faggot) is correct. OP is autistic. I'm laughing at his shit recommendations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:19:59 2017 No.10440545 >>10440536 Remember to put 'sage' in the options field, kids.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:20:36 2017 No.10440548

>>10440536
>I don't deny that "he" (you, you samefagging faggot)

lol alright

>I'm laughing at his shit recommendations.

How so? The only embarrassing part of that anon's post is responding seriously to this thread, but on the other hand there's always value to lurkers and other posters who might think you can actually create a revolutionary work without a robust understanding of the canon and its great thinkers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:30:24 2017 No.10440574 You all seem so insecure, probably due to the fact that Goonan wrote a book, and apparently an important one, while you all just continue to read book by book by book and get nowhere, and get no pussy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:45:12 2017 No.10440620 Lmao Goonan did that bookstore cancel your dumbass event? Where are you gonna be in DC? i want to come flip your table.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:45:38 2017 No.10440622 >>10440574 I may not get pussy, but I did get some twink ass due books (even though it was a comic by Jay Naylor)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:47:08 2017 No.10440629 File: 638 KB, 691x855, 1493334584550.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And your 300m time in HAS was abysmal Goon. You should learn to try harder.

Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:51:17 2017 No.10440643

>>10440516
I suppose my point of ‘being contemporary’ was lost on you? Do I think The Bicameral Mind is good or true? No, it’s probably bullshit, but it’s amusing bullshit that makes you think. I also think Peterson is a dumb meme, but Sean would already be a step up if he sat through the Maps of Meaning lectures.

My point is if you actually want to attempt something as silly and futile as producing something radically new, the idea that you can just sit and think real hard is a piece of arrogant fantasy and the product of American ‘genius worship’. Great works are the products of top tier geniuses spending decades working far harder than the average person ever could. People who write great things aren’t successful because they are smarter than you, they are successful because they are both smarter than you and also work far harder than you. I’m advocating that if you want to do something great read the great thinkers, but also read the new thinkers, spend sometime figuring out whether or not memes are worth the hype, and consider their critics as well.

If somebody thinks they’ve written something radically new on the nature of ‘man and woman’ I’d expect them to have something to say both about evolutionary psychology and Judith Butler’s theory of performative gender, and if you haven’t even heard of one of those things I’m not sure you are sufficiently educated to be making grand sweeping pronouncements on the nature of man and the universe.

If I’m saying anything it’s just that if your influences list includes a bunch of novels you read in high school, you aren’t well rounded enough to attempt anything like a grand project. Read the classics, read some meme trash, read the secondary literature, you’ll be better for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 22:59:02 2017 No.10440663 >>10440629 https://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=1714031#/L0 Not a bad 600m at 1:31.07, but the top of the field in the local competition was usually 1:28.00 to 1:30.00 with the rare sub 1:28.00 freak show.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:04:47 2017 No.10440673 >>10440574 Imagine? Goonan actually posted this. "Apparently an important one"... My fucking sides are destroyed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:51:10 2017 No.10440782 >>10440620 You're a pussy ass bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 23 23:59:17 2017 No.10440795 >>10439761 Fuck off, Goonan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:07:03 2017 No.10440808 >>10440782 >Calls me a pussy >Won't say where you'll be Gooch, come on man. I Wana see that disgusting pressed in mongoloid face irl.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:08:19 2017 No.10440811 >>10440517 >Its not up to the author of a book to be God. Do you think it takes a God to understand how to sell books and educate the masses? Have you approached any academic publishers or journals to publish or review your work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:22:03 2017 No.10440847 >>10440808 Email me to arrange a place and time to meet and I'll be sure to kick your face in like you want to be done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:33:23 2017 No.10440861 >>10440847 Lmao do you not want to post it? A 12 of your fans want to come smell the cum on your breath. I'll make sure to bring some friends when we meet up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:34:25 2017 No.10440865 >>10440861 >>10440847 >acting like Russians http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-man-shot-in-quarrel-over-immanuel-kant-s-philosophy-8820327.html

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:34:58 2017 No.10440868

Two things;
-make a better website, your website is shit. Just use squarespace or something, if you have enough money for vanity publishing, you have enough money for a website maker.

-why are you only doing a us tour, come to Canada. Specifically Toronto.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:39:11 2017 No.10440876 File: 151 KB, 1038x1331, wak1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10439761 at least my work has cool words in it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 00:45:11 2017 No.10440889 >>10440808 I at least know that I don’t know, and aren’t going to make anybody waste their time on me.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 01:03:27 2017 No.10440913

I suppose I shouldn’t mock too much, of actually is possible for a fairly short book to completely fuck you up top to bottom on a whole range of topics.
Mark Fisher’s Capitalist Realism is one. Sean if you are reading this, read this fckin book and try again;
https://libcom.org/files/Capitalist%20Realism_%20Is%20There%20No%20Alternat%20-%20Mark%20Fisher.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:11:55 2017 No.10441660 >>10440808 Excuse me but he's the voice of our & subsequent generations

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:16:43 2017 No.10441669 >>10440198 Whomst would pretend to be you? I mean we have some inbreds around here but come on

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 08:20:00 2017 No.10441670 I'm Jewish

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:08:29 2017 No.10441957

>>10440868
Self publishing doesn't cost any money.

>>10440913
The Foundation solves economics.

>>10441669
>Fuck you; go back to your kike masters. One day you will be begging for my mercy.
>Fuck you, kike. My intelligence will not be brought down by your Talmudic bullshit. Now go cry to papa Soros.
>Please stop kvetchig in my face, idiot.
>More kikes for the gas chamber. You won't keep my people from reading my work. We will rise. We will put you in you ash heap.
>What Mein Kampf was for the rise of the Nazi Party, this book will be for the rise of the brotherhood of /pol/ into becoming the most powerful group on Earth.
These seem a little out of place in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:12:27 2017 No.10441967 hey goonan you're completely retarded and delusional, and your work is a pile of steaming shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:18:31 2017 No.10441988 >>10441957 STFU goon

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:19:54 2017 No.10441992 >>10441967 >>10441988 Kill yourselves.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:24:03 2017 No.10442005 >>10441992 Pretend that mom's knives are dicks and choke on them.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:45:29 2017 No.10442051
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>incredibly important
Example, Goo.

>new
Example, pls.

>revolutionary
Lay it out for us briefly.

>change the course of
How would it change the course of my day, first.

>the species drastically
By...?

>for eternity
And that's how we know you're ill.

Plus all the bizarre antisemitism. /pol/? Really? Mein Kampf?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 11:58:49 2017 No.10442091 >>10440868 >why are you only doing a us tour, come to Canada. Specifically Toronto. Why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:45:55 2017 No.10442280 >>10442091 If you come to Toronto I’d love to chat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:51:53 2017 No.10442311 >>10442091 So I can tear you a new one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 12:52:50 2017 No.10442319 >>10442280 He won't tell you where he will be even if he comes. He's too scared of getting his creepy little face broken.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:05:46 2017 No.10442365 >>10442319 Post your face on here pussy.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:30:49 2017 No.10442417

You know what reading that made me realize?

If somebody who hasn’t read any books tries to a write a book attempting to solve everything, what you get is a perfect distilled version of the dominate ideology of society, an exact perfect replication of what the background noise of the American Mind is. The book contains all the default prejudices and standard cliches on every topic you want to name. Every single solution is ‘take the good bits on one side and the good bits of the other side and combined them and that solves it’, liberals are too x, conservatives are too y. No analysis of why political ideaologies are the way they are other than to divide people as being ‘masculine’ or ‘feminine’ as the master explanatory principle.

The ultimate conclusions are just the most basic vulgar conservativism. A basic affirmation of the existence of some ‘natural’ form of society which is vaguely like our own but all the conflicts don’t exist because people accept their natural roles, be it economic or gender.

The most typically American thing about it is that it presents its solutions as being universal, yet clearly is only thinking inside the box of the crudest American specific notions of politics, most obvious in how Sean thinks about the terms conservative and liberal.

I’d highly recommend reading some Hegel, at least then you might be able to bullshit all the ‘take the thing, and the other thing, and do a thing that combines them’ in a more convincing way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 13:40:30 2017 No.10442442 >>10442417 You are a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:30:39 2017 No.10442593 >>10442442 If you actually bothered to do research you might get somewhere Sean. Point me to one important book which doesn’t have any references.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:37:10 2017 No.10442621

>>10442365
Sean. You can't read Greek, you can barely write, you have probably read like 4 books. But I hope someday you manage to come up with a cogently thought. Did that farmers market ever get off the ground? You need to show up at meetings more, it sounds like you have great ideas for tour community.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:43:16 2017 No.10442636 >>10440643 Take this advice if you want to be a critic or a professor. If you want to do something ground-breaking new it's going to come from your own thinking and tinkering.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 14:59:20 2017 No.10442684 >>10442417 can you read hegel if you aren't well read in philosophy? im willing to take my time with it and look up shit i dont know.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:03:49 2017 No.10443184

>>10442636
It’s a recipe for coming up with ideas that actually really banal and unoriginal, that you think is profound and new, but that somebody has already been out there saying and you don’t know about because you never bothered to do a bit of reading in the first place.
The idea that you can just sit and think real hard and create ground breaking solutions is a romantic myth. There’s going to so many questions that wouldn’t even think to ask. No great or important thinker hasn’t be thoroughly versed in the thought of their day, or at least some tradition of thought.

>>10442684
Tbh not really. Hegel comes at the end of a tradition and some knowledge of that is necessary. Also reading secondary sources are going to talk you pretty far in this regard. I’d recommend Understanding German Idealism by Will Dudley, German Philosophy 1760-1860 by Terry Pinkard, or German Philosophy by Andrew Bowie, (or German Idealism by Fredrick Beiser if you want something truly hefty, but this volume probably requires background) having some knowledge of Descartes, Spinoza, and Hume is helpful.
As for getting Hegel himself, the book named after the man by either Fredrick Beiser or Charles Taylor (the first is medium length, the second is pretty long by thorough) , avoid Peter Singer’s ‘Very Short Introduction’. That should be enough to get started.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:06:37 2017 No.10443197 >>10442684 you can't read Hegel even if you are well read in philosophy, honestly

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:48:36 2017 No.10443439

>>10443184
Reading other people's thoughts all the time means you aren't forming thoughts yourself. Reading other's people's thoughts should serve to enhance a person's own path of understanding and provide a base understanding of what is already known. You don't need to read every book to know everything that is already known.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:50:15 2017 No.10443450 >>10443197 you can only read Hegel if you’ve taken Cid and are above 130 IQ

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:53:19 2017 No.10443460 >>10440643 See >>10440536

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:54:48 2017 No.10443465

>>10443439
I’m saying you need some reasonable foundation in what’s out there, and a breadth of facts about history and politics before you can to any meaningful work yourself. By no means to you need to know everything. But you need to have at least reviewed the literature on the subject you intent to make a ‘ground breaking’ work in. And so if you intent to revolutionize all thought, well, you’ve got a bit of reading to do.

There is a minimum before you will produce anything that isn’t just boring cliches a la OP

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 17:57:39 2017 No.10443475 >>10443465 You'd be surprised at how many books you don't need to read.

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:01:15 2017 No.10443485

>>10443465
Would you say this is a satisfactory list of books for a person to read?

The Technological Society Jacques Ellul 11/30/17 3.5
The Castle Franz Kafka 11/24/17 5
Mein Kampf Adolf Hitler 11/17/17
A Guide for the Perplexed E.F. Schumacher 10/29/17 5
The Communist Manifesto Karl Marx 10/26/17 2
Mundus Millenialis Rei Koz 10/22/17 2
Orgy of the Will Icycalm 10/22/17 2
Ernest Hemingway on Writing Arthur Phillips 10/08/17 5
Into the Wild John Krakauer 10/05/17 5
Notes from the Underground Fyodor Dostoyevsky 9/30/17 4
Essays and Aphorisms Arthur Schopenhauer 9/13/17 5
On the Shortness of Life Seneca 9/13/17 4
The Power of Myth Joseph Campbell 8/20/17 4
Eureka: A Prose Poem Edgar Allen Poe 8/15/17 3
Martin Eden Jack London 8/01/17 5
The Art of the Commonplace Wendell Berry 7/17/17 5
Looking Backward Edward Bellamy 7/14/17 1
The Division of Labor in Society Emile Durkheim 7/11/17 3
The Sound of Waves Yukio Mishima 6/16/17 5
Sex and Character Otto Weininger 5/29/17 5
Foundation Isaac Asimov 5/03/17 3
The Trial Franz Kafka 3/10/17 4
Human, All Too Human Friedrich Nietzsche 1/24/17 4
Revolt Against the Modern World Julius Evola 1/15/17 3

The Decline of the West Oswald Spengler 12/21/16 2
The Fate of Empires John Bagot Glubb 12/19/17 4
Stranger in a Strange Land Robert Heinlein 11/14/16 1
The Complete Short Stories Ernest Hemingway 11/12/16 5
Anti-Tech Revolution Ted Kacynski 10/31/16 4
The Way of the Samurai Yukio Mishima 10/05/16 4
Home Economics Wendell Berry 9/24/16 5
Why I Am So Wise Friedrich Nietzsche 9/09/16 2
The Dhammapada Anonymous 9/05/16 3
Collected Short Stories Jack London 4/18/16 5
Industrial Society and Its Future Ted Kaczynski 1/03/16 5
The Conspiracy Against the Human Race Thomas Ligotti 1/01/16 2

Beyond Good and Evil Beyond Good and Evil 11/28/15 5
Lost in Space Greg Klerkx 11/18/15 2
Meditations Marcus Aurelius 11/17/15 5
All Gall is Divided Emil Cioran 11/12/15 3
The Call of Cthulhu H.P. Lovecraft 11/11/15 4
The Thing on the Doorstep and Other H.P. Lovecraft 11/11/15 5
America in Space: Nasa’s First Fifty Years Steven Dick 10/26/15 2
The Colour Out of Space H.P. Lovecraft 10/18/15 5
Asimov’s Chronology of the World Isaac Asimov 10/17/15 -
The Exploration of the Colorado River John Wesley Powell 9/05/2015 3
The Martian Andy Weir 8/17/15 1
A Short History of Decay Emil Cioran 8/06/15 4
Life on the Mississippi Mark Twain 07/13/15 4
The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt Albert Camus 6/19/15 5
Edward Hopper Carol Troyen 6/04/15 4
The Complete Stories Volume 1 Isaac Asimov 6/04/15 5
A Brief History of Time Stephen Hawking 5/25/15 1
Thus Spoke Zarathustra Friedrich Nietzsche 5/13/15 4
Nightwatch Terence Dickinson 5/07/15 3
The Island of Dr. Moreau H.G. Wells 4/25/15 5

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:03:17 2017 No.10443491

Godel, Escher, Bach Douglas Hofstadter 4/22/15 1
The Last Messiah Peter Wessel Zapffe 3/29/15 4
How the Mind Works Steven Pinker 3/26/15 1
All Quiet on the Western Front Erich Maria Remarque 3/23/15 5
The Snows of Killimanjaro Ernest Hemingway 3/15/15 5
Isaac Newton James Gleick 3/10/15 3
The Poetry of Robert Frost Robert Frost 3/06/15 4
Henry David Thoreau: A Man for All Sea John Anthony Scott 3/01/15 4
The One-Straw Revolution Masanobu Fukuoka 2/25/15 4
The Art of Happiness Dalai Lama XIV 2/21/15 1
Steppenwolf Hermann Hesse 2/21/15 5
A Short History of Nearly Everything Bill Bryson 2/04/15 5

The Self-Sufficient Life and How to Live It John Seymour 12/25/14 5
Consider the Lobster and Other Essays David Foster Wallace 12/22/14 2
The Art of War Sun Tzu 12/21/14 5
A Confederacy of Dunces John Kennedy Toole 12/06/14 5
Snobbery Joseph Epstein 12/01/14 1
On Suicide: A Study in Sociology Emile Durkheim 10/--/14 5
Franny and Zoey J.D. Salinger 10/--/14 4
The Stranger Albert Camus 10/--/14 5
The Wisdom of Insecurity Alan Watts 9/--/14 2
Ideas and Opinions Albert Einstein 7/31/14 2
Joyful Wisdom Yongey Mingyur 7/15/14 1
In Wildness Is the Preservation of the World Eliot Porter 7/01/14 4
Growing Up Absurd Paul Goodman 7/01/14 4
The Unsettling of America Wendell Berry 6/--/14 5
Good Work Ernst F. Schumacher 4/--/14 4
The Poverty of Affluence Paul Wachtel 3/--/14 5
Bartleby the Scrivener Herman Melville 3/--/14 5
Small is Beautiful Ernst F. Schumacher 2/--/14 5
Class: A Guide Through the American Status Paul Fussell 1/--/14 5

The Picture of Dorian Gray Oscar Wilde 12/--/13 1
Cat’s Cradle Kurt Vonnegut 12/--/13 2
A Walk in the Woods Bill Bryson 12/--/13 4
The Invisible Man H.G. Wells 11/--/13 5
White Fang Jack London 11/--/13 5
The Call of the Wild Jack London 11/--/13 4
The Time Machine H.G. Wells 9/--/13 5
Catch-22 Joseph Heller 7/--/13 5
Fahrenheit 451 Ray Bradbury 1/--/13 5
Brave New World Aldous Huxley 1/--/13 5

Animal Farm George Orwell --/--/09 5
Liars Poker Michael Lewis --/--/09 3
Self-Reliance Ralph Waldo Emerson --/--/09 4
The Prince Niccolo Machiavelli --/--/08 4
Walden Henry David Thoreau --/--/07 5
The Outsiders S.E. Hinton --/--/06 4
The Great Gatsby F. Scott Fitzgerald --/--/06 3
Siddartha Herman Hesse --/--/06 5
1984 George Orwell --/--/06 5
The Catcher in the Rye J.D. Salinger --/--/06 5
The Old Man and the Sea Ernest Hemingway --/--/06 5
Of Mice and Men John Steinbeck --/--/06 5
To Kill a Mockingbird Harper Lee --/--/06 5
Robinson Crusoe Daniel Defoe --/--/02 3
The Complete Stories and Poems Edgar Allen Poe --/--/02 5
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn Mark Twain --/--/02 4
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer Mark Twain --/--/01 5

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:31:04 2017 No.10443583

>>10443485
In their life? Or by the time they are 24? It’s a fair set of books for a 24 year old to have read, it’s certainly not sufficient for anybody who considers themselves a genius. The most serious deficit here is in history, and also a very odd collection of philosophy.

Where is the Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Spinoza, Locke, Hume, Smith, Paine, Kant, Hegel? Like it is cool that you’ve read a bunch of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer, but I don’t think they are the be and end all of thought. Not to mention the great reams of 20th century philosophy, from Wittgenstein to Foucault. Also you’ve spend a lot of time on pretty dumb shit, why would you waste the time reading Sex and Character? If you want to get in depth on the politics of society, then why haven’t you contented with John Rawls, Robert Nozick, Michael Sandel. GA Cohen, and Charles Taylor? If you want to give an evolutionary psychology account of gender, why not Richard Dawkins and EO Wilson at least. If you want to consider political economy, Veblen, Marx (no not just the manifesto), Henry George, Schumpeter, Galibrath, Keynes, Sraffa, Kalecki, Hayek, Rothbard, Friedman, Sen, Stieglitz, Piketty, and Shaikh. Typically people that fancy themselves geniuses have at least read Ayn Rand.

So no, I’m not impressed by your list, I’m actually I bit astonished that somebody who has read those books still wrote something as boring and commonplace as you did. If you want to do something great you’ve got to keep learning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 18:37:03 2017 No.10443610 >>10443583 I'm laughing my ass off here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:38:16 2017 No.10444646 New levels of shitposting

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:39:33 2017 No.10444652 File: 89 KB, 807x1024, 1501697457978m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >It's a /lit/ falls for a shill thread episode

Anonymous Sun Dec 24 23:59:04 2017 No.10444731

Does anyone else think this sounds incredibly lifeless, generic, and dull? A meaningless latinate title, the design of the book is white text on a black background. The name is unremarkable, the supposed content is so vague and broad it's practically meaningless --- basically, it's supposed to be a philosophical treatise about the meaning of life and modern civilization. It makes me yawn. It sounds like some asshole who knows nothing about life just sat there in his armchair comfortably writing this, spewing a bunch of bullshit out of his head that has no relation to reality. Trying to even read the first page of the book is so boring, bland, stale, lifeless ... it feels like the author is a nobody, like he stole all his ideas from elsewhere and has no real experience of them. It almost feels like an artificial intelligence wrote the book, it's just so bland and unemotional in everything --- the title, the design of the book, its content, its style. It feels like meaningless masturbation reading it, the bizarre idea that a book has the meaning of life in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 01:04:56 2017 No.10444908 >>10444731 Read the whole book cuck. I take that back, dont read it, you aren't near ready.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:07:57 2017 No.10445113 >>10443485 >Mundus Millenialis Rei Koz 10/22/17 2 What were your thoughts on that is it just schizophrenic ramblings or is there something more to it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:16:58 2017 No.10445124

I've seen you talk about some of your ideas but I don't think they hold water (pose something and I can show you what I mean). I'd be interested in talking though but from what I've learned, change isn't a single event let alone a single idea/ system of belief - it's work.
If your intention is to spread your idea, then it's a conversation.

Both of these imply an ongoing thing

http://pyramid.glass/uncategorized/equations/

Like I said I'd be up to talk but if your intention is just to shill your current beliefs then I'm not interested

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 03:22:11 2017 No.10445129 >>10444908 Lmao, life is too short to waste watching childmen masturbate. I'm gonna go read literally any other book.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:00:10 2017 No.10445565 >>10445124 Check my tour schedule. The events are usually pretty crowded, but if you email me, I'll get security to bring you over to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:14:35 2017 No.10445590 >>10443485 Given that most or at least a lot of your philosophical reading took place after you had written your book did you have to make any modifications/ did you have new insights regarding it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 25 09:43:51 2017 No.10445645

>>10445124
I am all about discussing with people with an open mind. Basically no others in this thread deserve any respect or attempt at discussion which is why you dont see it.

>>10445565
Are you having identity problems? Pretending to be someone else. Pathetic.

>>10445590
No major changes, but after I initially published it I added another 10 pages over the next few months to strengthen the concepts. The motivations for the amendments didn't come from reading any more books.

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