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[Anonymous No.10439265]

Is masculinity just a social construct after all?

[Anonymous No.10439271]

>>10439265
No, it's the essence of Man.

[Anonymous No.10439279]

Yes. partly, but nothing is "just" a social construct. Pointing out that something is a social construct does not, in itself, reduce that thing's complexity, just as it does not immediately deconstruct something.
In this case, the answer is yes, but what that means is totally open. For example, you could argue social constructs are not just social, not divorced from biology and genetics and so on

[Anonymous No.10439283]

Yes, but its useful to be anyway.

[Anonymous No.10439291]

>>10439265
Femininity is a social construct, masculinity is not. Masculinity is the default state of a pure ego and is by definition asocial.
Don't confuse masculinity with machismo

[Anonymous No.10439308]

>>10439279
>>10439291
>t. dopey numales repeating jewish propaganda

[Anonymous No.10439314]

Is mayonnaise a social construct?

[Anonymous No.10439321]

>>10439308
>don't think about things that make me uncomfortable

Femininity is a beautiful art of being not a natural state. Its why it needs to be encouraged and cultivated and why resisting Jewish education is so important.
There is no feminine Gorilla

[Anonymous No.10439328]

No, it's a biological phenomenon. Sexual dimorphism doesn't stop at the physical.
In fact all traditionally masculine behavioral and mental traits can be connected to the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone

[Anonymous No.10439332]

>>10439328
>In fact all traditionally masculine behavioral and mental traits can be connected to the effects of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone

This is Nigger logic, acting like a stupid ape is not at all traditionally masculine

[Anonymous No.10439333]

>>10439314
No Derrida, Mayonnaise is not a social construct

[Anonymous No.10439334]

>>10439265
Makes you think, doesn't it? The system regards masculinity as a 'toxic' threat to its existence. Wonder why 'masculinity' is a 'social construct' and yet 'the future is female', wonder why essentialism is applauded when it concerns the politically correct lgbtsjw community? The pride rainbow itself is a post Christian symbol of virtue. Christ on the Cross replaced by the screeching, victimized genderqueer, the form changes but the content remains, that is, guilt tripping and slave morality, a fundamental hatred of strength and of the strong.

[Anonymous No.10439338]

>>10439333
It literally is though

[Anonymous No.10439339]

>>10439334
There is a difference between "toxic masculinity" and "masculinity is toxic".
The former is stapling gender to a negative trait due to correlation and the latter is penis fear.
Although since you're sharing a Facebook tier meme I imagine you didn't come to this thread for nuance

[Anonymous No.10439340]

not really, the fundamental characteristics which we see as masculine (competitiveness, agression, authority) exist in other animals. chimps are our closest living relatives and they exhibit notorious capability for organized violence

[Anonymous No.10439343]

>>10439334
Liberals are right though, degenerate heathens are natural. Nature is an ugly shitshow and not something to be cherished but held in high suspicion.
It wasn't until Rousseau are the rise of alienated naive cosmopolitanites that nature became fetishized before then it was rightfully held to be the domain of evil and lecherousness

[Anonymous No.10439345]

>>10439338
It's a physical construct, isn't it?
Although I don't understand the nuance of the social construct concepts since i haven't reached the post-modernists yet in my book list

[Anonymous No.10439349]

>>10439332
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1234323/Testosterone-hormone-makes-kind-genial.html

Testosterone doesn't make you act like a stupid ape. Actually it makes you more grounded and mentally stable.
A combination of high testosterone AND high cortisol will make you irritable and volatile though.

[Anonymous No.10439353]

There are natural things that exist in the world and just are what they are, and then there are jews who attack those natural things and try to make people think they aren't natural or real and say they are instead "social constructs." That's the only dynamic one need understand in this debate.

[Anonymous No.10439354]

>>10439343
You should read Rousseau instead of spoutning bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10439357]

>>10439349
Interesting. I still hold though that masculinity is in its definition counter to biologization. If you act well out of hermones you're not acting like a man

[Anonymous No.10439359]

>>10439353
>sex is a social construct
>race is a social construct
>nationality is a social construct
>morality is a social construct
The more I look at this the more right you sound

[Anonymous No.10439360]

>>10439354
>If you disagree with my pet thinker it means you haven't read him

Suck a cock, I bet I read more of him than you have

[Anonymous No.10439365]

>>10439349
It also makes you less risk-averse
Female stock traders outperform male ones on average because they make less trades.
Don't have a citation for this tho

[Anonymous No.10439368]

>>10439357
>If you act well out of hermones you're not acting like a man
You are.
Research shows that testosterone and DHT give you the effect of this "calm confidence", a kind of grounded assertiveness. Are there more masculine archetypes out there?

[Anonymous No.10439374]

>>10439368
You're completely missing the point, a person who is a slave to his glands is not masculine, doesn't matter if they act in a stereotypically manly way. Any nigger can do that.
Its reason that defines masculinity.

[Anonymous No.10439376]

>>10439365
Yes, but less risk-aversion is not necessarily ape behavior.
Enterpreneurship is a risk. Leadership is a risk. Any "manly-man hero" archetype takes risks that no one else would.

[Anonymous No.10439380]

>>10439359
That's really all it boils down to. The jew attacks and inverts all that is normal and natural. That is the jew's nature, which is why the jew has been so universally reviled throughout history, this constant attack on the norms of others.

[Anonymous No.10439381]

>>10439343
>>10439349
Leftoids are not even consistent postmodernists, as they remain fundamentally grounded on and represent the logical conclusion to Christian slave morality. Foucault, Butler and their ilk are nothing but a shrill moralistic repackaging of Nietzsche, a defanged pussyfied Nietszce stripped from anything remotely subversive. Notice how 'Victim' identities are good, natural and inherently commendable?

[Anonymous No.10439387]

>>10439376
>>10439368
>archtype

Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10439403]

>>10439381
>slave morality

Shut the fuck up you retard. Nietzsche is babies first philosopher for brainlets

[Anonymous No.10439404]

>>10439374
>Its reason that defines masculinity.
"Reason" is comically overrated outside of sciences.
You can't "reasonably" justify any kind of morality or value statements (good/bad). You need an underlying paradigm which is, by nature, unreasonable.

[Anonymous No.10439420]

>>10439279
Yeah this

[Anonymous No.10439423]

>>10439404
>You can't "reasonably" justify any kind of morality or value statements (good/bad). You need an underlying paradigm which is, by nature, unreasonable.

Hence why we need Jesus or there's no real justification to do anything and we may as well be dead, you're not disputing my point at all

[Anonymous No.10439424]

>>10439387
masculinity is an archetype so I suggest YOU kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10439429]

>>10439423
If you define masculinity as
>using reason and self-control in following the teachings of Jesus
then how do you define femininity?

[Anonymous No.10439432]

>>10439424
No it isn't. Otherwise how would we come to identify it in the first place?
You're basically admitting that SJWs are right by this category

[Anonymous No.10439442]

>>10439429
Submission and adoration to the superior mind. The suspension of reason for the sake of reason. And thus a sort of beautiful madness

[Anonymous No.10439443]

>>10439291
Everybody here start arguing like retards the second this thread started, BUT
you forgot to D E F I N E M A S C U L I N I T Y

[Anonymous No.10439444]

not literature

[Anonymous No.10439446]

>>10439432
Masculinity is an archetype that stems from natural behavioral characterstics of biologically male healthy humans