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[Anonymous No.10423061]

>reads evola
>uses the internet

Wtf is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.10423068]

>>10423061

Evola wasn't a primitivist.

[Anonymous No.10423490]

Its called riding the tiger. Do you even Evola yourself?

[Anonymous No.10423729]

>reads evola
>thinks evola wouldn't use the internet

you didn't read evola

[Anonymous No.10423734]

>not kicking the masses off the internet and keeping it for the elite few

[Anonymous No.10423830]

Greatest Thinker After Nietzsche and Heideger

[Anonymous No.10424055]

>>10423061
The problem is that no one here is worth a damn. Me included. Otherwise we wouldn't be pretending to be intelligent to strangers on a Vietnamese basket weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.10424070]

>>10423061
kylo ren lookin ass

[Anonymous No.10424427]

>>10423830
and Mosley

[Anonymous No.10424436]

>>10424427
Did Mosely actually write anything worth reading?

[Anonymous No.10424456]

>>10424436
>Fascism: 100 questions asked and answered

>In this pre-War book written in convenient Question and Answer form by Oswald Mosley, the Leader of the British Union of Fascists challenges the simplistic nature of the stereotypical image. It acknowledges that if he had been elected to power political party warfare would have been brought to an end. Instead of voting for different party labels General Elections would be based on an occupational franchise. Under this system everybody would vote according to their vocation: miners voting for a choice of mining candidates; farm workers for agricultural candidates; health workers for doctors and nurses; and textile workers for textile worker candidates. There would even have been occupational candidates for housewives and pensioners. In this way, Mosley believed that a government of experts elected by experts would be created: a body far better equipped to provide good government than one based on a multi-party geographical franchise. Other questions and answers covered by Mosley in equal depth include freedom of speech; reform of the banking system; and the roles of trade unions in the modern workplace.

is fascism basically communist nationalism without the internationalism?

[Anonymous No.10424667]

>>10424456
no. communism is fascism without the spirituality

[Anonymous No.10425667]

>>10424667

[Anonymous No.10425688]

>>10423061
I read Evolaas an act of post-new sincerity.

[Anonymous No.10425772]

>>10424456
Fascism is the application of Universal Truth onto oneself and society at large.
It is the uncompromising subscription to Natural Law.
It isn't a secular, materialistic ideology like Communism or Capitalism.
It is the rebirth of Tradition.

[Anonymous No.10426164]

>>10425772
>It is the rebirth of Tradition
It's the bastardization of tradition for the purpose of crude political power play. Why do you think right-wing intellectuals like Junger and Evola rejected fascism?

[Anonymous No.10426183]

>>10423061
>reads Evola
Why waste your time on this pseudointellectual’s magic witch doctor philosophy when you could read actual philosophers instead?

[Anonymous No.10426185]

>>10423729
Evola would fucking love the internet. It’s sort of the ultimate accelerationist tool. Ride the tiger baby.

[Anonymous No.10426226]

>>10426183

Evola is useful in that he demonstrates how to link up streams of ancient philosophy with contemporary existence.

[Anonymous No.10426238]

>>10426183
>this post
>calls others pseuds

[Anonymous No.10426268]

>>10425772
Excellent propaganda, Anon!

>>10426164
Ignoring whether you agree with Fascism or not, you have to agree that that was good advertising copy; poetry, really.

[Anonymous No.10426284]

>>10426164
>Why do you think right-wing intellectuals like Junger and Evola rejected fascism?

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

>MUH CLASSICAL FASCISM IS DIFFERENT FROM GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM

You obviously haven't read or understood Junger or Evola.

[Anonymous No.10426285]

>he isn't intent on becoming an aristocratic internet wizard archon to direct the Cathedral of the Tiger from the shadows

[Anonymous No.10426364]

>>10426285
wtf does that even mean

[Anonymous No.10426377]

>>10423061
>reads evola
>stops reading evola because it's pure garbage

Stop pulling the trash out of the bin

[Anonymous No.10426600]

>>10426185
tfw evolanon calls your waifu a shit citing a perennial truth contained within the brahma-sutra upanishad which states that your waifu a shit

[Anonymous No.10427015]

>>10424070
For awhile, I thought he was wearing a monocle where his scarred eye is.

[Anonymous No.10427213]

>>10423061
You're confusing modernism and technological progression. He was not a primitivist

[Anonymous No.10428441]

>I may be a weak, sickened, virginal cripple with a non-functioning dick, but I assure you that my writings are in no way an overcompensation for these facts. I'm actually a highly advanced spiritual patrician who reigns supreme over 99.9% of humanity.

[Anonymous No.10428676]

>>10426284
>Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
They did though. Evola derided the fascists' materialistic world view and populist leanings, while Junger realized the NSDAP were all misguided brainlets.

>>MUH CLASSICAL FASCISM IS DIFFERENT FROM GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM
Where did I even hint at that?

[Anonymous No.10428775]

>>10426377
b-but le erudite monocle man lets me clothe my base resentment against a world in which I'm not successful with a veneer of intellectualism! Even though I can't slog through more than 12 pages of any book he's written, deep down I feel it all vindicates my deep desire to call people niggers on the internet. That's what he means by ''revolt against the modern world'', right? And riding the tiger means ignoring females, because in our modern, decadent, materialistic society qt tradwifes simply don't exist, no?

[Anonymous No.10428882]

>>10428775
please stop this, it's unbecoming

[Anonymous No.10429014]

>>10428882
It's true though. Pic related represents most Ebola fans.

[Anonymous No.10429031]

>>10428441
>weak, sickened, virginal cripple with a non-functioning dick,
Implying you didn't just describe the messiab

[Anonymous No.10429034]

>>10429014
a true man amongst the ruins
he's just riding the tiger breh

[Anonymous No.10429139]

The anon in pic related said to start with The Hermetic Tradition as an introduction to Evola. Is he right?

[Anonymous No.10429320]

>>10423061
Evola was a NEET, and would've spent a good chunk of his time on the net each day posting on fashy forums, and collecting an ebook collection of esoteric literature.

[Anonymous No.10430441]

>>10429320
Evola is the king of virgin NEETs w/ superiority complexes.

Yall know that if Evola was capable of getting an erection he would never have written a single word of that bullshit, right? "Muh inner sexual alchemy" is pretty easy to advocate when you know you're never gonna penetrate a real live woman.

[Anonymous No.10430445]

>>10423061
>hating technology
>missing the point

[Anonymous No.10430455]

>>10426183
because actual philosophers have only been irrelevant or made things degenerate faster

[Anonymous No.10430461]

>>10429139
Frithjof Schuon was a literal child molester. The whole 'Traditionalist' thing was a scam, don't bother.

The Hermetic Tradition (as in the Corpus Hermetica, Smagardine Tablet, etc., not Evola's book) however is worth your time. Either jump into the primary sources, or start with Frances Yates.

[Anonymous No.10430470]

>>10429139
not sure why would you do that, unless you are interested in the hermetic tradition, if you are interested in buddhism read the doctrine of awakening, or if you are interested in tantrism read the yoga of power, the doctrine of awakening i'd say is the most straightforward to read for us western normies, we are totally disconnected from our western esoteric traditions, so something that builds up from a smaller core like buddhism will be easier to follow

or read Guenon, you should read Guenon at some point anyway to see that Evola was too edgy and still too modern in his faith in the power of an individual disconnected from a true unbroken chain of tradition

[Anonymous No.10430479]

My advice to anyone looking to explore this edgy cryptofascist aesthetic is to spare yourself the trouble of reading Guenon/Evola/Schuon and just listen to a few Death In June albums instead. If you aren't a total retard your fascination with this meme will be gone in about six months anyway.

[Anonymous No.10430538]

>>10430479
never post here again

[Anonymous No.10430549]

>>10426364
SURF THE KALI YUGA PLEB

[Anonymous No.10430565]

>>10428441

[Anonymous No.10430575]

>>10426183
>>10426377
>>10428441
>>10428775
>>10429014
>>10430441
>>10430479
Geez someone got their panties on a twist. Is bringing up Evola the ultimate trigger?

[Anonymous No.10430583]

Didn't that retard literally believe Hyperborea existed?

[Anonymous No.10430627]

>>10430583
Hyperborea literally does exist

[Anonymous No.10430696]

>>10423061
lol this guy thought he was a wizard, what a retard

[Anonymous No.10430703]

>>10430583
Hyperborea is real you absolute brainlet, I went there yesterday, as a matter of fact

[Anonymous No.10430706]

>MUH MAGICKEH

[Anonymous No.10430813]

>>10430461
>Frithjof Schuon was a literal child molester.

I call bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10430837]

>>10430583

>The vedas describe solar/lunar movements that would only be seen by someone at the the north pole and within the arctic circle
>vedas mention the day and night of the gods are six months long, i.e. the 6 month long day and night or the polar north
>vedas mentions incredibly long lasting dawns, at one point instructs that it's recommended to ceremonially recite the entire rig veda during dawn (dawns in the polar north take many days)
>the arkhaim ceremonial site in northern Russia to the east of the Urals is thousands of years old and is arranged in the same arrangement of the palace of a king deacribed in the vedas

Hyperborea absolutely existed and the proto-indo-europeans were hyperboreans.

[Anonymous No.10431142]

>>10430813
Schuon performed sexual acts with underage girls at his cult compound in Bloomington, IN. The "Controversy" section of his Wiki page has been scrubbed, but google "Frithjof Schuon scandal" and there are tons of results.

[Anonymous No.10431154]

>>10430575
No, it's just gotten boring. As evidenced by the OP and numerous other posts lately, people don't actually read him, see the word "traditionalism", and somehow come to the conclusion that Evola was writing a proto Unabomber Manifesto.

[Anonymous No.10431196]

>>10431154
yes, retards that think that Evola was a fascist or that he wanted to "go back to the 50s", even though he lived before the actual 50s and despised everything after the french revolution

not saying that Evola was that very consequent about his ideas, he talks about we living in the Kali Yuga but if you truly believe that like Guenon does, the Kali Yuga started about 6,000 years ago, so classical greece and rome were already degenerated if you swallow that kind of pill

[Anonymous No.10431203]

>>10431196
>already degenerated if you swallow that kind of pill
SOCRATES
WAS
A
NIGGER

[Anonymous No.10431229]

>>10431203
traditionalists don't usually fall for the DNA meme

[Anonymous No.10431256]

>>10430837
>the arkhaim ceremonial site in northern Russia to the east of the Urals is thousands of years old and is arranged in the same arrangement of the palace of a king deacribed in the vedas

Substantiate your claims

[Anonymous No.10431299]

>>10431203
wow what an original insight, a Pelasgian Greek is a nigger from the people who don’t take population genetics seriously but LARP about it on their secret rw social club. Anyone whose not from the PONTIC STEPPE home of the BLONDE BEAST is a nigger. Oh and that refutes Soc’s critiques too rite guys?

[Anonymous No.10431363]

>>10431142
There is no substantial evidence which points that he did. It's all slander and hearsay. You probably believe Roy Moore is a child molester too despite there not being any proof, don't you?

[Anonymous No.10431367]

>>10431154
OP here. I made this post two days ago in a bout of apathy. Didn't expect people to actujally respond.

I've taken a break from Evola in order to read the saints, but he was the first author to really introduce the spirit of tradition as he calls it in a way that spoke to my dilapidated modern mindset.

There is a plague, here on these boards, where everything straightforward and sober is ridiculed and nothing is taken seriously, and everyone just regurgitates memes out of some latent anxiety still abiding in them from their upbringing . That is the bug which stirred me to publish this meaningless OP, so I wouldn't get to distraught over it if I were you

In good faith, I will approach Evola's works anew, something which might benefit me now that I have gained a better idea of the traditional spirt and the inner work.

Adieu my friend

[Anonymous No.10431398]

>>10431367
You dropped your fedora on your way out

[Anonymous No.10431406]

>>10431363
>Defending an obscure dead pedophile because you agree with his puerile power fantasies and metaphysical garbledygook passed off as "philosophy"

Find better hobbies friend.

[Anonymous No.10431465]

>>10431398
What? See, this is what I'm talking about. People here don't speak in sober fashion, they just regurgitate modern memes and slang.

[Anonymous No.10431467]

>>10431406
>Defending an obscure dead pedophile
Allegedly, and there is no evidence. If the glove don't fit you must acquit.
>because you agree with his puerile power fantasies and metaphysical garbledygook passed off as "philosophy"
Perennialism has roots in Neo-Platonism, and has been further expanded upon in the Renaissance. Nice try.

[Anonymous No.10431499]

>>10431367
Well at least you realized how terrible your half-baked premise of a thread was, but I agree that /lit/ has pretty much become "/b/ with books". There are only a handful of good threads a week.

[Anonymous No.10431530]

>>10431499
>only a few good threads a week
>only

That's your modern mindset talking.

[Anonymous No.10433071]

>>10431465
Let them use their memes, that way you know who not to take seriously

[Anonymous No.10433079]

>>10431142
>underage girls
What does that even mean? I hate this meme

[Anonymous No.10433086]

>>10431154
>>10431196
Actually, Evola is just not good, period. Can't write, can't think.

[Anonymous No.10433089]

>>10431406
>Defending a dead pedophile because you agree with his puerile power fantasies and metaphysical garbledygook passed off as "philosophy"

U WOT

[Anonymous No.10433098]

>>10431467
>Perennialism has roots in Neo-Platonism, and has been further expanded upon in the Renaissance
It this supposed to be a defense? Lmao

[Anonymous No.10433511]

>>10429014
Posting anime tiddies is riding the tiger in the purest sense my dude

[Anonymous No.10433965]

>Be 29 male
>Be a moderator of a bimbofication discord
>Get to hypnotize and brainwash beta males to be dumb obedient cocksucking tranny bimbos
>tfw they will all live irredeemably degenerate and corrupt lives
What are YOU doing to accelerate the Kali Yuga today?

[Anonymous No.10433980]

>>10433965
>actual sociopath
>likes to play predatory games on confused people for kicks
>tells himself that this isn't degenerate
Wew. Real psychos sure are unsettling when you encounter them.

[Anonymous No.10433981]

>>10433980

A few months ago I was chatting with a stranger on omegle. They asked me for help and I thought they were fucking around like 99+% of people there. They produced an image of themselves in makeup with hair done and breasts. Arguably pretty, clearly a natural male, though.

It was apparently a young dude who had been convinced to take hormones and effectively become a woman. He seemed legitimately disturbed and desperate. It's possible they were yanking my chain but that made me realize that shit like that is real.

[Anonymous No.10433984]

>>10433965
these fetishists are some real retardeds
I just want to erase them all

[Anonymous No.10434062]

>>10430575
Has there actually ever been an Evola criticism that wasn't just
>don't be mean to jews >:(
or
>don't judge my lifestyle, I can be fap to cartoons in my basement as much as I want!
around here? The brahmin vs kshatriya debate would be a possible angle of criticism, but we never get even that far.

[Anonymous No.10434102]

>>10430813
Unfortunately not. There was an entire dossier of evidence compiled and available online until his cult's legal team had it disappeared from the net. But fret not, it will be available soon once more, complete with Schuon's n00ds, I am told. (have seen them, a bit scary tbqfh with you.)

[Anonymous No.10434109]

>>10434062
>The brahmin vs kshatriya debate would be a possible angle of criticism, but we never get even that far.
Search for the thompkins_cariou Evola website on the Internet Archive and find the article entitled A Controversy on the Vedanta for more on that subject.

[Anonymous No.10434112]

>>10433965
pure evil

[Anonymous No.10434310]

i agree with evola on a lot of things but not his concept of knowledge that "shouldn't be known". how does he defend that position?

[Anonymous No.10434348]

>>10433980
lmao wtf

[Anonymous No.10434350]

>>10434310
it shouldn't be known because it cannot be known outside of a secret inner act. To share it is to make it a shadow of itself

[Anonymous No.10434351]

>>10433965
wtf...

[Anonymous No.10434356]

>>10434109
can't find it can u link?

[Anonymous No.10434543]

>>10434102
>Dude, he is totally a child molester. I have seen the nudes. You just gotta believe me, man.
Post link or gtfo

[Anonymous No.10434588]

>>10434543
not the first anon, but since your search skills are dismal, you might try looking for Mark Koslow's old blog (probably taken down so make use of internet archive and cached versions).
Also, you're an awful knob, you know that?
https://ia601301.us.archive.org/1/items/2011DOSSIERAFFAIRESCHUON/2011_DOSSIER_AFFAIRE_SCHUON.pdf

[Anonymous No.10434594]

>>10431256
on the wikipedia page for the site in the first two sentances there are references to studies done on the site by scholars where they concluded that it related to the vedas.

[Anonymous No.10434607]

>>10434588
updated version plus some pics here too:
http://dossierschuonguenonislam.blogspirit.com/archive/2016/08/19/dossier-affaire-schuon-liens-3078361.html#more

[Anonymous No.10434628]

>>10434607
Is this safe to view, or do I need to use a VPN?

[Anonymous No.10434716]

>>10434588
>>>10434543 (You) #
>but since your search skills are dismal
>Also, you're an awful knob, you know that?
You are being obtuse dickhead. Listen, if that anon is making a claim, (and a serious accusation, might I add) then the burden of proof lies on him. Telling the opposition to "look it up" and shoving the burden of research on them, instead of laying out the evidence for all to see once proof is demanded from you is intellectually disingenuous.

[Anonymous No.10434776]

>>10430461
>>10431142

I looked up what you mentioned and I think there is something to it but it seems overblown. I think the bigger issue is cult-like and seemingly megolomaniac behavior by Schuon.

Based on what I read Schuon in his 80's started his own Virgin Mary-based heterodox sufi sect and incorporated 'ceremonies' based on native american rituals where women and some teenage girl would dance around while they were all naked and then some would approach him and hug him. There isn't any description of anything else, the author of the peice I noted notes that he was so old he couldn't even get erections anymore. While he should have known better, keep in kind that Muhammad himself had penetrative sex with pre-pubescent girls (not to say that either of those are okay but objecting to nude women/girls hugging a nude 80-year man as a super bad thing seems like anglo puritan moralizing).

The bigger issue is the evidence Schuon went on an ego trip and started to refer
to himself in prophetic terms and talked about himself like he was an avatar or superhuman. That fundamentally goes against the traditional eastern mystical doctrines which overwhelmingly emphasize the unity of all beings and proscribe egotistical behavior.

And that's not to say that people who commit wrong doing are automatically disqualified as spiritual teachers. Gurdjieff and certain Tibetian lamas were known for eccentrice behavior and debauchery but still had very profound impacts as teachers. People are complicated beings and one can transmit spiritual knowledge without according in perfect accordance with it at all time.

With all that being said though based on what I read I get the impression that Schuon was a brillant man who as he got very old his mind weakened and his judgement worsened and he didn't realize he was acting in ways that were unwholesome.

>The whole 'Traditionalist' thing was a scam, don't bother.

The Traditionalist school of thought was and still is massively influential, is intellectually compelling and is above all interesting; individual failings by certain members of it notwithstanding. You can for the most part stick with Guenon and Coomarasay as they offer pretty much all you need to know insofar as traditionalism and after them there is really just the actual eastern texts themselves. The trads are not an end in themselves but just complement studying the actual texts and participating in religious groups and practices like meditation/yoga/prayer etc.

[Anonymous No.10434790]

>The Traditionalist school of thought was and still is massively influential

[Anonymous No.10434893]

>>10434790

Guenon alone influenced a huge range of people including many leftist/socialist authora and surrealists, many far-right authors and thinkers including Carl Schmitt, and also influenced many of the most famous religious scholars like Huston Smith and Mercea Eliade among others. He is credited as being one of the first Europeans who wrote about the eastern doctrines accurately and many eastern figures praised him and referred to him as such.

And that's just Guenon, when you include Schuon, Lings, Commaraswamy, Evola, Buckheart, Dugin they were a huge influence on society. The media doesn't fawn over them and promote because they go against everything the liberal elite Atlanticist faux-egalitarian establishment stands for but that doesn't change that they were a huge influence on society.

In addition to influencing many important thinkers and authors in the west, they also influenced many authors and thinkers in the east. Guenon is well-regarded and relatively well-known in India and the middle east.

The traditionalist school as laid much of the groundwork for the new age movement in the 60's and neo-vedanta.

They influenced people of all political types from far-right to far-left and also had a significant impact on the study of religion.

The increasing popularity of them in the past decade as more and more people rediscover them only reinforces the point.

[Anonymous No.10434912]

>>10434893
>neo-vedanta
Unfortunately, the only things the West got out of that were contortionist exercises, and new agey manuals on how to improve your sex life.

[Anonymous No.10434960]

>>10434790
See, this is the exact kind of reply that brings down /lit/'s overall credibility.

Thank you anon for your valuable replies >>10434776 >>10434893
This is a very interesting topic to discuss, I hope more well informed people show up, and not some edgy retards.
Btw, for those of you well versed in Traditionalism, is it worth it learning Italian to read Evola in the original? I'm a native portuguese speaker, so learning Italian isn't that hard. I'm also learning German and French, which might be useful to read Guenon and Schuon in the original. Is it worth it to do so or should I jump straight to English translations?

[Anonymous No.10434969]

>>10434912
Over the years I've avoided learning yoga and related practices exactly because of the public its classes normally attract. But I guess we shouldn't be surprised an important field of study has been reduced to fit modern degeneracy, that has happened with so many other areas, most obviously the arts.

[Anonymous No.10435018]

>>10434716
you need to get out more often before getting up on your legalistic, overly logical, high horse, mate.
Schuon's antics are hardly news, the stories, pictures and credible reports have been knocking about online for years at this stage (only to be scrubbed every now and again) - only a truly disingenuous muppet, or paid-up member of the cult, would attempt to wash away the accusations with an appeal to due process or whatever the hell it is you want to call your little rant.

[Anonymous No.10435071]

>>10435018
>overly logical high horse
>paid-up member of the cult
Wew, so threads on traditionalism INDEED trigger some folks. I'm not even the anon your comment is directed to, but you're being ridiculous. He is right in pointing out the burden of proof lies with you, you like his vocabulary or not.
>credible reports are out there all the time, the only reason you can't find them is because they're scrubbed!
Yeah anyone can say that about anything bud. As long as you don't come up with something of substance there's no reason to condemn the man. Unlike you, the other anon produced a detailed reply in >>10434776 . Given what we've seen so far it would seem you are the "truly disingenuous muppet" here. Unless you have some very suspicious pics of him a la Joe Biden.
Oh noes, I disagreed with you, does that make me Schuon's JIDF? /lit/ sure is a place to keep an eye on uh

[Anonymous No.10435078]

>>10434350
he was referring to modern science, like physics and the like

[Anonymous No.10435098]

>>10435018
This is literally the first time I have ever heard of this controversy with Schuon. It goes without saying, when you make a pretty big accusation that someone is diddling kids, people will ask for proof. Furthermore, you shouldn't have a snobbish attitude when actually do present the proof, as if you are being charitable, which is what you are supposed to do.
>only a truly disingenuous muppet, or paid-up member of the cult, would attempt to wash away the accusations with an appeal to due process or whatever the hell it is you want to call your little rant.
wtf, do you honestly believe people are guilty until proven innocent?!

[Anonymous No.10435185]

>>10424070
could Adam Driver play Evola?

[Anonymous No.10435202]

>>10424667
What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.10435306]

>>10435098
To be frank, I was not the anon who first mentioned the accusations, although I would have mentioned them had he not done so first. Secondly, you must be fairly new to these circles, since the accusations are well-known among traditionalist circles, and are hardly unique either: there are others, and more vicious too. Yes, there's all manner of proof - but there's no point in rehashing some of these old internet flame wars all over again. Not yet, at any rate.
Plus, I fin it hard to believe that you weaponised autists would have such a hard time finding your collective ways around a simple search engine and a string of keywords that "burden of proof" and the like becomes such a meme-phrase to be trotted out out of sheer laziness. But yeah, I get your point otherwise.
Still, you seem to have too high an opinion of the criminal justice system in any case. You might want to disabuse yourself of that particular notion before it comes back to bite you in the arse.

[Anonymous No.10435311]

>>10434912

That's irrelevant to whether the traditionalists were influential or not. Neo-Vedanta in it's new agey form should not be confused with a resurgence of interest in eastern philospophy by people who properly study it. For every person going to thousand dollar 'neo-vedanta' retreats there are people actually reading the works of adi ahankara et al.

>>10434960

I've only read some of the stuff in English translation, I didn't have any qualms about doing so and I felt like I got it well. It's a question of whether you want to understand their ideas now or want to put off reading them until you get the language. You might get it a little better in the original language, but you might also wish you read it earlier. You could also try reading one or two books from each author to get a feel for them and then read the rest in the original. I'd recommend starting with Guenon's 'Introduction to the Study of Hindu Doctrines' it doubles as an intro to Traditional thought and eastern philosophy in general in addition to Hinduism.

[Anonymous No.10435335]

>>10435311
this is true the problem is that Neo-Vedanta is laden with whyte supremacists who exist their to steal the Vedics history and idealists who just want to weaponize it to create a new church. very few people use it as a practice for themselves or their creative works like N and Schopenhauer and the Quantum/Atomic Jew-Germans did

[Anonymous No.10435338]

>>10434960
One of Guenon's correspondents and translators, one Galvao, was Brazilian or Portuguese so there's likely material in that language. Evola has some stuff in Portuguese as I recall.
Otherwise Schuon wrote in French though the quality of his work is very variable, not to mention his accuracy concerning non-Islamic subjects (and even then...).

[Anonymous No.10435376]

>>10429014
>>10428775
"riding the tiger" implies living a humble, upright life to achieve spiritual gains that you couldn't have otherwise in any other period of history. This doesn't really preclude liking anime tiddies or sending anti-/pol/tard the_donald owning warriors into a rage by saying mean words online, because none of these things are political or make you bound to the petty hedonistic sociopolitical culture squabbles characterized by modernity- on the contrary, not caring about what some anon that totally OWNS neckbeard reactionary racist pissbabies HARD le epic style says is definitely riding the tiger, I'd say. And no one's saying evola's an intellectual. He's an esotericist. Ride the tiger is a criticism of the frustrating, illusory structures of the modern world, e.g. political correctness or certain taboo. Not to say that fapping to hentai is being Evolian or doesn't make you, to Evola, a pathetic weirdo, just that your criticism (read: having never touched anything by the man and sperging out hard because /pol/ and the neoreactionaries have found a liking to him and that makes you fill your pants with autistic rage) is invalid

[Anonymous No.10435383]

>>10428775
>And riding the tiger means ignoring females, because in our modern, decadent, materialistic society qt tradwifes simply don't exist, no?
You do know that Evola, although unmarried, had a number of affairs with women, right?

[Anonymous No.10435682]

>>10435335
> Neo-Vedanta is laden with whyte supremacists who exist their to steal the Vedics history

wut?

[Anonymous No.10435724]

>>10435306
Burden of Proof isn't a meme. It's necessary in order to have an argumentative discourse without degenerating to fallacious statements and shitposts, although we are way beyond this point. Second, there will always be new people in the discussions who don't know all the facts, and these aren't dedicated threads nor can this information be stickied for everyone to see. Saying "this has been discussed X number of times, so there is point point in posting it" is no excuse to brush off the pleas of the ignorant who want to learn. It reeks of a foolish air of superiority and pride of seniority.

Also, legal burden of proof and 'Innocent until proven guilty' are one and the same, and has a basis in Roman Law, and later in Islam.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence#History
Are you telling me you would prefer to live in a society where the innocent can be legally be executed without evidence or fair trial?

[Anonymous No.10435790]

>>10435724

>Burden of Proof isn't a meme

then the burden of proof is on you to prove that burden of proof isn't a meme, isn't it?

every single fucking meme-rhetoric 'fallacy' bullshit that people pretend they're smart with contradicts itself.

[Anonymous No.10435965]

>>10435383
I'm pretty sure he had one girlfriend, he doesn't seem to be the woman wooing type.

[Anonymous No.10435981]

>>10435383
I'm not saying you're wrong, but how can a cripple fuck women in the first place?

[Anonymous No.10436093]

>>10434607
>>10434588
this is an english board, wtf is that shit

[Anonymous No.10436534]

>>10435790
It’s from a principle of conservativeness that a person making a claim has the burden of proof.

If we believe that generally we ought to have reasons for what we believe and accept, and that to accept a new statement of fact we ought to have a reason for it, then we accept that there exists a burden of proof, some bar overwhich the evidence must reach to accept the claim.

The question is then who bares that burden. We are accepting here that there is a person making a claim, and a person hearing the claim. If the burden falls on the hearer, then they must either accept the claim or give a case for why the claim is false. In many cases, like where claims are unfalsifiable, it is in principle impossible to give a case why the statement is false. Failing to disprove something thus means I must accept it, and there are an infinite number of random claims that can be made, about things outside my ability to detect, which I must all accept since I can’t prove them false. If the goal was to establish knowledge, in this case I have to accept belief, but there is no justification.

In the other case, if the claim is true, then it ought to be possible for the person making that claim to demonstrate it. The justification which brought them to that knowledge can be communicated.

Another way of looking at it is that we have some status quo of what we believe is our knowledge, and any person who makes a new claim is making a challenge agaisnt the status quo of knowledge. We believe what is status quo is justified in that position, so for any new fact to enter that body we need it to also demonstrate justification. If it was on the status quo to admit everything it couldn’t disprove it would end up accepting contradictions where two statements couldn’t both be true, but which both couldn’t be necessarily disproven. The allowance of a contradiction means we’ve accepted in something which is false, something we don’t want if we are trying to acquire knowledge.


So yeah, that’s why the burden of proof is always on the person who makes a positive assertion about something, the contrary situation leads to a contradiction.

[Anonymous No.10436777]

>>10435981
he wasn't always a cripple

[Anonymous No.10436874]

>>10435338
Wasn't aware, will look into it. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.10436891]

>>10424055
the only correct answer

[Anonymous No.10437485]

>>10431196
>Be only six thousand years in the Kali Yuga
>Already, women are having promiscuous sex, gays are getting married, and kids are being brainwashed into thinking they need to take hormones and get a sex change operation
>tfw we have 426,000 more years of this shit, and it's only going to get worse

[Anonymous No.10437510]

>>10437485
im not sure anything is actually bad. for my dads generation, people who got fucked up became heroin addicts, died of aids, had a mental breakdown and died in standoff with cops, etc.

cutting your dick off cause of mental illness is surely terrible but it doesnt seem that bad comparatively

[Anonymous No.10437512]

>>10437485
Well considering we are going transhumanist and they lifespan will increase, so will the Kali Yuga.

[Anonymous No.10438010]

>>10437512
we'll see about that, shit may hit the fan in many different ways, many of which don't involve creating a super-AI that will massage our backs just in the right way

[Anonymous No.10438175]

He triggers me a little bit, bunch of nihilists read him trying to grasp on the sharpest edges they can find. Its getting a touch silly now.

[Anonymous No.10439121]

>>10437512
>implying shit won't hit the fan before transhumanism actually takes off

>>10438175
Just because brainlets claim to understand him doesn't mean they do, neither does it devalue his work. A lot of brainlets think they understand Plato.

[Anonymous No.10439127]

>>10437510
>dying a glorious death
>living a pathetic existence
hmm

[Anonymous No.10440785]

>>10424667
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This is actually pretty accurate, nice one.