/sffG/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy Genera

[Anonymous No.10418549]

Harem Edition
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/88988.Harem_or_polygamy_fiction


FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previous Threads:
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[Anonymous No.10418573]

First for Martin Padway

[Anonymous No.10418589]

Do you think catching a glimpse of a girls safe hand is exhilarating as upskirting in highschool was?

[Anonymous No.10418606]

Third for webnovels are novels too

[Anonymous No.10418608]

Dragon'sCrown was a bretty good game.
That being said
>>10418606
no

[Anonymous No.10418633]

I have read this book. It's very nice!

Also, do you know some good sci fi book (maybe standalone) with spacial explorations and/or thecolonizations of the planets? I know only the Mars Trilogy.

[Anonymous No.10418653]

Is Shadows of the Empire good?
I wanna read some Star Wars after that shitty film but I don't feel like diving into Thrawn right now.

[Anonymous No.10418698]

I had more fun reading these than any other recent fantasy series.

[Anonymous No.10418707]

What's an X Like You Doing in a Y Like This

Examples in literature:
>Inverted in the Robert A. Heinlein novel The Number of the Beast, when a dissection of a dead female alien who had been posing as a male human leads to the discovery that her legs each had two knees, one bending forward and one bending backwards. Cue the quip, "What's a nice joint like you doing in a girl like this?"

[Anonymous No.10418719]

Finally finished all these books. I liked them, but I felt the story relied too much on coincidences to advance. Half the time, I felt things were just happening for no reason other than to advance the story. Especially near the end. Is this a common criticism or am I crazy?

[Anonymous No.10418747]

>>10418719
People say that fairly often and its basocally true.

[Anonymous No.10418756]

>>10418698
That’s because you were jerking it to dryad sex scenes

[Anonymous No.10418766]

>>10418756
Well now I'm interested in those books.

[Anonymous No.10418770]

If you've ever wanted to read a giant robot anime, have I got the book for you.

[Anonymous No.10418786]

>>10418770
These covers are so fucking shitty a 50 dollars comission of something generic would've been better.

[Anonymous No.10418791]

>>10418756
There are too many goddamn Dryads by the second book. His first wife is still the best. I have a fetish for female Orcs.

[Anonymous No.10418817]

Has anyone read Tanith Lees: Tales From The Flat Earth series or Becky Chambers: The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet?

If so what did you think?

[Anonymous No.10418826]

>>10418549
Gonna need some fucking source on this pic

[Anonymous No.10418842]

>>10418719
Nothing is a coincidence in these books. Everything that happens, happens for a very specific reason. What parts do you feel are a coincidence? My guess is that you missed out on what's really happening within the narrative. If you're willing to, you should re-read it.

[Anonymous No.10418886]

>>10418791
A shame we don’t get more of her. All that we got of her in the second book was that scene with Mouth. Good, but more is required.

[Anonymous No.10418938]

>>10418698
Isn't that just because it's a litrpg/literotica harem anime?

[Anonymous No.10419065]

>>10418698

Why is fantasy cover art so fucking bad? lmfao

[Anonymous No.10419110]

>>10419065
>fantasy cover art
>bad

[Anonymous No.10419135]

>>10419110

>That art
>Good

You have some high tolerance anon. Do you also read those romance novels with a half naked dude on them?

[Anonymous No.10419146]

>>10419135
Lets see you post something good then

[Anonymous No.10419151]

guys, can you suggest me some books of certaint topic?
the keyword here is "stranded".
let me explain. throw a guy into a hostile enviroment, see him struggle, and adapt.
bonus points for some kind of relationship involved there.
P.E: http://storiesonline.net/s/16402/abandoned-with-the-enemy
Other topic that pike my interest is the life inside an spaceship,bonus points if starting from stcratch .
P.E: http://storiesonline.net/s/74251:143781/flight-of-the-code-monkey-chapter-1 / http://storiesonline.net/s/14679:182473/three-square-meals-chapter-1

[Anonymous No.10419174]

>>10419146

Science Fiction art beats Fantasy art every day of the week.

[Anonymous No.10419177]

>>10418549
>anime
I guess it makes sense that this thread would attract pedos

[Anonymous No.10419183]

>>10419151
http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/~jjl5766/share/Arena.pdf

[Anonymous No.10419187]

>>10418653
>paying to see a shitty disney movie

[Anonymous No.10419234]

>>10419146
every title from ada's wild ride so far have been gorgeous

[Anonymous No.10419243]

>>10418719
>all
Did you read The Urth of the New Sun too?

[Anonymous No.10419289]

What does your fantasy bookshelf look like /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.10419305]

>>10419289
Paperbacks stacked sideways the height of shelf and 3 rows deep. Hardbacks and oddments crammed into leftover space one one side.

[Anonymous No.10419318]

>>10419289
a folder on my computer

[Anonymous No.10419344]

>>10419289
Like this

[Anonymous No.10419351]

>>10419344

[Anonymous No.10419352]

Any recommendations for hard scifi horror?

I recently read At The Mountains of Madness and it was fucking great.

[Anonymous No.10419361]

>>10419351

[Anonymous No.10419435]

>>10419344
>>10419351
>>10419361

You got some nice books, which one is your favorite?

[Anonymous No.10419518]

>>10419187
Watching the thing be shit and fans in denial struggle to defend it is high entertainment

[Anonymous No.10419529]

>>10419289
An absolute fucking mess with not only rows of books, but also rows behind them and books resting on top of other books and comics in a tight cabinet. I have no open bookshelves and no other space in my room.

[Anonymous No.10419562]

>>10419435
Probably Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell - Clarke has a sensibility about magic that's pretty unusual, more wild and dreamlike than systematic. The Last Days of New Paris is nice too, just wish it was a bit longer.

[Anonymous No.10419618]

>>10419352
Blindsight, but it's a strange breed of horror.

[Anonymous No.10419619]

>>10418549
He's just got one chick copy-pasted over and over. Harem grade: C.

[Anonymous No.10419620]

>>10419618
muh VAMPIRES IN SPACE
spoilers: aliens are ALSO VAMPIRES

[Anonymous No.10419631]

>>10419620
blindsight has vampires, the sequel has zombies. if you can't hack the hard-scifi redemption of shitty fantasy ideas, then maybe you should tell our good friend about some better hard horror

[Anonymous No.10419659]

>>10419631
why would anyone read "horror"
If you want to see sci-fi horror just go look at the demographical history of any major western city

[Anonymous No.10419721]

>>10419659
right well you've just proved you're an idiot so thanks for saving me the trouble

[Anonymous No.10419749]

>>10419289

[Anonymous No.10419787]

>>10419518
>giving a company money because you dislike their product

[Anonymous No.10420236]

>>10418653
Man I always try to enjoy film and don't over thinking the pandering nerd blockbuster Im about to watch, but with the last star wars I have to make some effort to start shiting on the film like an autistic. I'm not even a fan so that muh legacie is not for me, but as a plain scify movie is dumb as hell and mediocre.

This is maybe the most cliché response you are gonna get but read or reread dune. I just did it and it take away the bad taste of the film

[Anonymous No.10420331]

>>10420236
I'm still trying to understand how they're gonna deal with the hyperdrive artillery thing retroactively, because it makes every other space battle seem retarded now.

>read or reread dune. I just did it and it take away the bad taste of the film
Yeah I've actually been considering this for ages, maybe I should get around to it. Thanks for the idea, anon.

[Anonymous No.10420349]

Is Martian Time-Slip good?

[Anonymous No.10420442]

>>10420349
Of the ten PKD novel's I've read Martian Time Slip is one of the better, equaling Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep in my estimation. But it depends on your tastes. My least favourite was Valis, This isn't even mentioning the short stories which were arguably his best medium, so any reader should have a collected volume of them.

[Anonymous No.10420459]

So I've read a few Discworld books over the years and I liked the watch ones the best, so I've read all of the books staring it. But now I'm reading some of the others and I've noticed they reference each other and there's foreshadowing an such. Still, is it a better idea to read by series or by order?

[Anonymous No.10420464]

>>10420349
I didn't like it as much as the Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch or Ubik but it's certainly as good as DADOES.

[Anonymous No.10420486]

>>10420459
If you want, It's not mandatory. Like you I preferred the stories with Vimes and the rest of the Watch and as such mostly stuck towards all the stories where they were the main focus. There will be some references here and there in some of the other stories but nothing overly significant.

[Anonymous No.10420538]

>>10420486
Yes, I know there's nothing as significant as that, even the books of a single series can be read out of order without any major confusion. What I was asking is if the references on average are wide enough for the satisfaction of seeing them to override the satisfaction of binging a series.

On one hand, there's following the same characters across books with their adventures fresh in your mind, on the other there's seeing foreshadowing for the next Discworld book and the reverberating ripples from the events of the previous one.

[Anonymous No.10420722]

>>10419110
I prefer the finnish art.

[Anonymous No.10420747]

Guys, I'm about 80% through the Shadow of the Torturer, is stuff going to start happening anytime soon? I sure do love googling these obscure words, but I would also love to have some plot and characters to show up.

[Anonymous No.10420748]

Any scifi like Black Mirror but actually good? That fucking show gets exponentially dumber the more you think about it. Yes I read Blindsight and dropped Echopraxia.

I NEEED MORE GOOD SCI FI

[Anonymous No.10420965]

>>10420748
What episodes did you like?

[Anonymous No.10421082]

Alright /lit/, what is THE font when reading /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.10421090]

WHY IS IT TAKING SO FUCKING LONG FOR ADA PALMER'S FUCKING BOOK TO FUCKING DROP

[Anonymous No.10421272]

>>10421090
>fat childless over educated liberal woman

why

[Anonymous No.10421288]

I'm working on my first full novel, which will be my third book.

It's a Labyrinth/Neverending Story style book, featuring a 14 year old boy entering a magical world.

I wrote the whole thing, then scrapped it, and decided to start over with an outline. I keep going back and editing the outline. I want it to feel like it has a pacing of a thriller, so I keep tightening the outline from point to point, and while I think it makes it better, it's slowing me down.

What are some important things you need in a fantasy story to hold your interest, or things you get excited about?

Here's some things it does have

- A fully realized world, with warring factions and politics with a rich history
- Things done in the fantasy world have real-world consequences
- An original magic system that it isn't the main focus
- A murder mystery plot that is the impetus for the story

[Anonymous No.10421305]

>>10421288
chasing bullies down alleyways on luck dragons

[Anonymous No.10421320]

>>10421288
you need a nonsensical sport or some sort of thing people compete in.
also love interest with a romance subplot.

[Anonymous No.10421347]

>>10421288
So you're writing a thriller isekai?

My advice is to read thirty thriller novels and break down the plots afterwards.
As a genre its pretty much solved at this point.

[Anonymous No.10421359]

>>10421347

Basically.

I want the characters to move swiftly between different cities in the magical world, and meet with their leaders, to uncover who did it.

But the politics, history, and specific desires and motives, causes conflict that forces them to flee each time, building a small party as they go with creatures from each faction.

So it's like, escape to magical land to find who killed his sister. Then, meet with each leader in each city, and each one wants him for some nefarious reason, and he's forced to bounce from location to location until he finally decides it must be the big bad who's recused himself from the rest of the world, and has been living as a hermit locked away in his castle.

In order to cover all that ground, I need it to move quickly. Obviously, I'm worried about having little breathing room for the characters.

[Anonymous No.10421385]

When writing fantasy, at what point do I put the breaks on realism? The fa/tg/uys like their worldbuilding but it seems like it quickly devolves into pseudo-productive procrastination after a while.
So far the answer I've come up with is "when it gets in the way."

[Anonymous No.10421390]

>>10421359
That sounds like a very convulted story line considering the amount of distance they have to travel.

[Anonymous No.10421399]

>>10421390

That's why it needs to be paced like a thriller, they need to be motivated to move quickly from place to place. There's not time to rest for second breakfasts, and they're constantly moving.

[Anonymous No.10421403]

>>10421272
>women r 4 breeding

pol pls

[Anonymous No.10421406]

I've never written a story before, but I've recently taken an interest at the prospect.

How do I even begin? All I see is a blank word document and the second I try to type anything, after about a paragraph I want to vomit and give up.

[Anonymous No.10421410]

>>10421399
I guess.

This sounds more like the DaVinci code with magic though.

[Anonymous No.10421414]

>>10421406
Make a map. Figure out the kind of story you want to write and where you want it to end. Find the big beats and then improvise within those margins.
Don't try to edit on the fly: you can only fix words that are actually on the page.
Most importantly: read and read copiously. Good writing isn't about what you think you know about writing, it's what you can pick up from the best and incorporate into YOUR best. Hegelian Dialectics.

[Anonymous No.10421421]

>>10421414
This is probably going to sound stupid but how does one even begin making a map?

[Anonymous No.10421431]

>>10421421

I wouldn't start there.

I would start with a character. And write a bio, and what they want. What traumas have that they need to overcome. Then do it again, and again.

Then start thinking about how those characters could have an adventure together.

Then think of places where they could do it, and then if you want, you can draw a map.

The most important thing is characters.

[Anonymous No.10421438]

>>10421421
Take a screen shot of a continent and then fuck with it for taste.

There's a book called writing for dummies that goes over the snowflake method, it's a helpful place to start if you're dedicated to learning.

Also remember that fantasy and sci-fi aren't really genres, they're settings for things like adventures or horror to occur in.

[Anonymous No.10421439]

>>10421431
Wait, are we talking about a literal map? Like geography, towns, landmarks and the such?

[Anonymous No.10421447]

>>10421414
>>10421431
>>10421438
Thanks for the tips guys. I've copied them down, I'll look into it right away

[Anonymous No.10421453]

>>10421439
By "make a map" i more meant an outline, or something approaching an outline. The next sentence elaborates what I meant by that.

[Anonymous No.10421475]

>>10421453
Okay, I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure.

I'm really really new to all this.

[Anonymous No.10421486]

>>10421475
You're gonna fuck up and you're gonna fuck up a lot. Don't run from it.
Fail faster.

[Anonymous No.10421503]

>>10421288
>featuring a 14 year old boy entering a magical world.
My interest died right there. Good luck with your isekai anime

[Anonymous No.10421531]

>>10421385
bumping this question

[Anonymous No.10421546]

>>10419361
>>10419351
>>10419344

How the fuck is your taste so generic pleb but then all of a sudden you have Terry Pratchett?

[Anonymous No.10421587]

>>10421531
I'll answer it in 4 hours when I get home from work.

[Anonymous No.10421604]

>>10421587
Appreciate it, any way I can return the favor?

[Anonymous No.10421612]

>>10421531
Do you mean realism of the setting, as in how much magical bullshit should there be, or realism of lore, as in "if there is a spell which can create food from thin air how come people in the town are starving"?

[Anonymous No.10421657]

>>10421612
The latter is more precise to my question. I find it's all too easy to slip into a rhythm of answering questions that aren't necessarily relevant to the narrative.
The other edge to that problem is that, in trying to avoid the rabbit hole of unending questions, it's also too easy to disregard questions that MUST be answered for the narrative to function.

[Anonymous No.10421663]

>>10418698
>Warning: This novel contains adult themes and moral ambiguities. The main character is written as a real person in an apocalypse, and will not make choices that line up with society and cultural norms.
>Spoiler for the faint hearted if you read further than this:
>This story contains a harem.
What did they mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10421665]

what are some fantasy books that are well-written (i.e. not harry potter young adult shit) that are are about comfy adventuring or travelling?

[Anonymous No.10421738]

>>10421657
You should trust the reader to pick the right questions and accept conventions where they must. Don't aim to please the brainlets who nitpick ad infinitum to feel smarter. I feel like the higher of a concept you introduce, the more questioning and suspicion it raises, in other words avoid writing in things that feel like gimmicks, or desperation to be unique. Don't set up towns like videogame stages each with its own little culture and customs, don't create characters with obligatory quirks or bodily alterations

[Anonymous No.10421757]

>>10419562
B-but magic must be fully explained otherwise the author has too much control over his story. It's almost 2018, I can't believe you don't know this yet.

[Anonymous No.10421784]

>>10419177
>pedos watch anime
>those girls in the OP are 6, when they have cantaloupe size breast
Okay

[Anonymous No.10421786]

>>10419289

[Anonymous No.10421856]

>>10420747
Stick at it

[Anonymous No.10421859]

>>10420748
Finish reading echopraxia you stupid heathen

[Anonymous No.10421907]

Any download links for the English translation of Koji Suzuki's "S"/"Es" yet?

[Anonymous No.10421926]

>>10419352
>AtMoM
>hard scifi

Nigga you high?

[Anonymous No.10421935]

About to reread this baby as a part of end-of-the-year tradition. Why isn't this your favourite sci-fi book, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.10421981]

>>10418842
The whole Agia subplot for one. Oh, he just happened to want a cloak outside this one clothing store run by these two unscrupulous people. You could argue that Agia started the race and crashed into the pelerines with the express purpose of stealing the claw, but it felt like a coincidence all the same. Severian would have never gotten the claw and the book series would probably be about half as long without that. The whole time I was reading it, I was shocked that something that seemed so utterly random and inconsequential had such a big impact on the narrative. Granted, that's a large theme of the book, but still.

And another thing that I'm only realizing now that I'm actually discussing it is that most of the 'coincidences' were fairly inconsequential to the main plot anyway. Like the whole thing with Jonas. He gave a lot of insight to the world and Severian as a person, but if he was completely cut, the narrative would have essentially gone in the same way.

Most of the book seemed more like a slice of life style series of vignettes than a straight narrative. Again, that's not to say I didn't like it. It was a great ride despite some things leaving me scratching my head either because I didn't understand the thing itself or why that thing was included. I quite enjoyed the trip, and I'm willing to say that most of my issues were likely the result of me being a bit of a brainlet.

>>10419243
Oh not yet, I didn't know that existed. I'll grab it today and try to finish it by the weekend.

[Anonymous No.10421984]

>>10421935
Because The Cyberiad is.

[Anonymous No.10421990]

>>10419352
I found Solaris to read a lot like a horror story. And not sci-fi, but if you like Lovecraft, I'm sure you've read House on the Borderland? If nothing else, I found it interesting how it's essentially a creepypasta before computers popularized the concept.

[Anonymous No.10422020]

>>10418698
Too many dryads desu

[Anonymous No.10422043]

>>10421990
Solaris is pretty much glorified ghost (as in "ghosts from the past") mansion in space.

[Anonymous No.10422060]

>>10421385
>>10421587
Realism should end when it breaks immersion, unless your world is the focus of the novel (like a faux explorers journal.)

What exactly are you writing at the moment though?

[Anonymous No.10422097]

>>10421475
My personal advice is never make a map.

You can have a general idea of the world in your head, but when you make a map all of a sudden the world feels small and you get obsessed about linking other places together etc.

[Anonymous No.10422109]

>>10421935
It's probably my favourite sci-fantasy tale, even though it's not as insane as other sci-fantasy like Dune

[Anonymous No.10422180]

>>10419110
>>10419174
>>10419234
>implying these are not all gorgeous

[Anonymous No.10422183]

>>10421546
Terry Pratchett is in the same category of 'generic pleb' as Gaiman

[Anonymous No.10422192]

>>10421663
Who knows. The main character seems pretty standard to me. The only thing he's done that goes against "norms" of society is him having multiple wives along with a bunch of side chicks. Maybe they put that warning in there because they know the fantasy genre is overrun with SJW types.

[Anonymous No.10422196]

>>10421663
It means he sticks his dick in a bunch of monster girls, repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.10422205]

>>10422196
Well that sounds like that series is right up my alley then.

[Anonymous No.10422224]

>>10421090
Can't you order it on the Kindle store now? Me mam's getting me a hardcover for xmas so I'm waiting on that.

[Anonymous No.10422250]

Where do most fresh pirated ebook releases usually appear? Are there any "special spots" to monitor?

[Anonymous No.10422320]

>>10422250
Price's law in action.

[Anonymous No.10422413]

>>10421403
Breeding is what makes women women. Thanks for completely erasing their feminine identity, you misogynist fuck.

[Anonymous No.10422491]

>had more excitement and wonder watching a show about a loli and her shota robot traveling through a hellish abyss than I have with any fantasy series in a long time
What went wrong? Why is the fantasy genre so stale now?

[Anonymous No.10422504]

>>10422413
In that case impregnating these women is what makes men men, yet I don't see you doing it.

[Anonymous No.10422540]

>>10422504
That's not what your mom said last night.

P.S. Say hello to your new baby bro for me.

[Anonymous No.10422548]

>>10422491
You're a loli/shotacon?

[Anonymous No.10422553]

>Mortal Engines becoming a movie
Anyone read them? Seems like YA but the premise is not bad and people that generally dislike YA (according to themselves) seem to like them.

[Anonymous No.10422559]

>"Lan told me once that Malkier lives so long as one man wears the hadori in pledge that he will fight the Shadow,
so long as one woman wears the ki'sain in pledge that she will send her sons to fight the Shadow. I wear
the ki'sain. Master Aldrago-ran. My husband wears the hadori. So do you. Will Lan Mandragoran ride
to the Last Battle alone?"
Any other books that makes me feel like this quote does?

[Anonymous No.10422560]

>>10422553
Yeeeeeeah I read them all as a nipper.
Pretty good, I can't really remember many details but it was quite funky. I'm glad British people are becoming villains again I really enjoy feeling evil.

[Anonymous No.10422575]

>>10422559
The latter part of KoD

[Anonymous No.10422589]

>>10421981
You should realize that the main plot is inconsequential in itself. It's only a vehicle for Severian to discover more about the world, and not just Urth, and himself.

[Anonymous No.10422592]

In the first chapter of Permutation City a bot is screening the character's email for junk mail sent by bots, when her email was chosen by bots that datamined her family's information and chose her as a prime target for advertisement.


Published in 1994.
Chapter 2 here I come.

Thanks for the recommendation.

[Anonymous No.10422624]

>>10422575
i see
After crossroads of twilight KOD is being so fucking amazing
are the sanderson books good also?

[Anonymous No.10422693]

>>10422624
Honestly, I think they're pretty bad. He tied it all together adequately, however. I'll give him that.

[Anonymous No.10422734]

>>10421738
Could you rephrase that last sentence in a different way? I'm probably just retarded but I don't quite understand what you mean by that. It seems to me that most fantasy settings have different cultural rhythms across groups of people. Have I just been reading bad fiction?

>>10422060
I'm mainly interested in archetypes and subgradient creation ("as above, so below" on a cosmic scale). Right now the two (mostly) complete ideas I have for stories are a barbarian king that makes it to the end of time through sheer force of will and an over-the-hill ex-hero that's called to heroism by a culture that they don't believe is worth saving.

[Anonymous No.10422848]

>>10421288
>14
Why that age? It's impossible to write a realistic teen without him being an utter asshole.

>politics
>outside of a comedy series
I'm asleep already.

>labyrinth
What sort? Magic ecosystem? Shifting or non-shifting?

>original
I'm sure you think it is.

>murder mystery
There's proper law in there? What sort of labyrinth is that?

[Anonymous No.10422849]

>>10421981
>The whole Agia subplot for one.
Agia is a puppet of Hethor, who in turn is a puppet of the Megatheridon's who in turn want to stop Severian from bringing the New Sun in fear that their power and immortality will end . The events were directed by the Hierogrammates to ensure that the Claw ended up in Severian's possession.

>Like the whole thing with Jonas. He gave a lot of insight to the world and Severian as a person, but if he was completely cut, the narrative would have essentially gone in the same way.
Wrong. Jonas is central to the series, as he is a link to the past (roughly our 'present time', or our near future) and Severians present. The fact that he is a space sailor and has travelled time and remembers the story from the Brown Book is integral to the themes which Wolfe is aiming to achieve. The idea that mythology and story are merely signifiers towards an eschatology which will see itself manifest regardless. For Wolfe, mythology and memory are intimately tied. Both are inherently both trustworthy and untrustworthy. Trustworthy because memory and mythology are many times our only means of relating and making sense of the past and untrustworthy because they become corrupted and manipulated overtime. For Wolfe, the core truth of mythology points towards an Orthodox Eschatology. Whether the mythology gets the particulars right or wrong is secondary to its core kernel of truth. Jonas is a window to another time and place, who only reinforces the notion that humanity is all advancing towards one Beatific Vision, regardless of it knows it or not.

>I quite enjoyed the trip, and I'm willing to say that most of my issues were likely the result of me being a bit of a brainlet.
I'd Recommend re-reading it while it's fresh in your mind. If you're willing to shell out some shekels, buy Lexicon Urthus and reference it on your second read through.

[Anonymous No.10422858]

Okay can someone who has read all the Malazan stuff tell me if Midnight Tides has any impact or relevence ln the rest of the book?

I was really getting into the series, but MT has taken me like a month to get halfway through. It killed the momentum the series was building up and seems so out of place being a prequel. Nothing in it seems important other than the Tiste Edur dudes preparing for conquest and getting the sword from the big bad evil crippled god. It's boring me to death and I'm close to dropping it.

[Anonymous No.10422862]

>>10422858
Read them all or be forever judged.

[Anonymous No.10422874]

Alright, /sffg/, I have no idea what to read next from my backlog, pick whatever you like best.

>Solaris
>Lord of Light
>A Canticle for Leibowitz
>The Mote in God's Eye
>2001
>Rendezvous with Rama
>Dune
>The Once and Future King

[Anonymous No.10422894]

>>10422874
solaris

[Anonymous No.10422940]

>>10422874
Solaris is good, if a little weird
Rama is dated as shit but still fun

[Anonymous No.10422951]

>>10422592
>Egan does not attend science fiction conventions,[10] does not sign books, and has stated that he appears in no photographs on the web,[1] though both SF fan sites and Google Search have at times mistakenly represented photos of other people with the same name as those of the writer.[11]
what a poor lonely fucker
he seems to be declaring that the internet is somehow evil by shying from it, when ironically he himself hides from conventions, which for all their downsides, are where face-to-face interaction occurs. Even if he's contacting people then meeting with them personally, he must somehow by using e-mail to do it. What a bloody hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.10422954]

>>10422874
>A Canticle for Leibowitz
One of the greats, to be sure.
Anything else like it? I mean primitive civilizations rediscovering lost knowledge, stuff to that effect.

[Anonymous No.10423075]

Out of interest, what are the chances of being able to get a Star Wars fan fiction noticed, or is it just a giant waste of time?

[Anonymous No.10423096]

>>10423075
In what context? Are you looking to get it published or are you using it as a writing sample? Either way, there are better options unless your prose and characterizations are spot-fuckin-on.

[Anonymous No.10423102]

has this been done before

>the substance that superpower ALWAYS causes a physical transformation of some kind
>these can be anything from "weird eyes" or "blood turned to tree sap" to "splitting into two people" or "changing species
>MC's mother came into contact with the substance
>her mutation was becoming pregnant with him

[Anonymous No.10423196]

this fucking liberal ada palmer book
>what if we abolished borders and outlawed religion and had a wonderful totalitarian communist society

who would read stuff like that?

[Anonymous No.10423222]

>>10423196
lefties
you only read woman authors in fantasy if they are above 200 kilograns

[Anonymous No.10423236]

>>10423196
the whole point of Palmer's world is to pull liberals in before hitting them with the idea that abolishing gender is a terrible concept

anyway it sounds pretty fucking libertarian to me. Anyway have you even read the book? You sound like a blurb-and-bust

[Anonymous No.10423241]

>>10423236
i dont read books by women

[Anonymous No.10423242]

>>10423236
>libertarian
Even worse.

[Anonymous No.10423326]

>KOD only had 5 chapters of rand
>feelsbadman.jpg
>go to wot encyclopedia
>see that most of the book will be rand
FUCK YEAH

[Anonymous No.10423347]

>>10422862
I'm okay being judged for dropping a shit book

[Anonymous No.10423353]

>>10423196
>surrounding yourself with a pillow castle of books you agree with

[Anonymous No.10423395]

>>10422874
Solaris is great. Lord of light is one of my all time favorites. Dune is good.
The Mote in God's Eye has some nice ideas, but most of the time nothing interesting is happening and it feels bloated.
Canticle is definitely worth a read, but I didn't particularly like it.

>>10422951
As someone who was at Worldcon 75, I would only recommend going if you live close by. It just wasn't that interesting.
I'm extremely introverted though, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.10423396]

>me trying to write sci fi

why is it so hard? it took me three days to describe a spaceship

[Anonymous No.10423437]

>>10423396
because you dont know shit about spaceships
visit devianart to see good examples

[Anonymous No.10423448]

>>10423396
sci fi is shit

space fantasy is where it's at

[Anonymous No.10423455]

>>10423448
that's good then because that's what I'm gonna be writing whether I want to or not

[Anonymous No.10423456]

>>10423396
Just visit a spaceship and take notes.

[Anonymous No.10423520]

>>10418698
I'm not a fan of how the protagonist is a super badass who can talk down anyone, but it's still much better than pic related.
I'm trying to finish it and i don't know if i can.
If another girl comments about how hot the main character is because of how nice and mature he is and how he respects women i think i'm gonna puke.

[Anonymous No.10423530]

>>10423520
I'd be immediately suspicious of any work of fiction that goes out of its way to describe how attractive the protagonist is. Like if there's a point, there's a point (see: Lolita and how the narrator describes themselves) but, especially in the realm of fantasy fiction, that sort of thing is indicative of some kind of personal projection on the part of the author. "Self insert" would be putting it lightly.

[Anonymous No.10423593]

>>10423242
yeah fair point

>>10423241
are you >>10419659? if you've got arseall to say, don't say it. idiot.

>>10423395
I think cons are basically the way for younger or less-known authors to project themselves into the field. how was worldcon set up? I can't exactly imagine it having stalls like a normal convention.

[Anonymous No.10423601]

>>10421935
Because it's a part of NANOMACHINES, SON

[Anonymous No.10423626]

>>10423530
It's one thing when the self-insert really is average and treated as much, or when it's a "badass" with self-insert traits. Not great, but it's what i expected coming into it.
But the problem is when you have a self-insert who is completely average but everyone acts like he's amazing. And then the world has to be filled with dumb caricatures to highlight how wonderful he is.

[Anonymous No.10423633]

>>10423520
I can see where you're coming from. For me I think it helps that I went in expecting a self insert wish fulfillment series where the main character has a harem of monster girls and then proceeds to build up his own kingdom. It's not a "good" book by any means, but I personally find it entertaining.

[Anonymous No.10423645]

>>10423633
I did enjoy it though.
Super Sales on Super Heroes too.

[Anonymous No.10423743]

>>10423102
Steelheart by Branderson

[Anonymous No.10423747]

>>10423645
>Super Sales on Super Heroes
I like that one too. I had no idea the second book came out a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.10423788]

>>10423626
>>10423530
>>10423520
>If another girl comments about how hot the main character is because of how nice and mature he is and how he respects women i think i'm gonna puke.
He has supernatural charisma. He is hooked up to the most powerful succubus there is, there is bleed over happening. Imagine him as a super chad who has so much testosterone that girls in his immediate vicinity cream their panties from the pheromone rush.

I really wonder if people in these generals actually read. Are you a speed reader? Does the author have to spell everything out to you? You see the guy has a "mesmerizing stare", you lock eyes with him and your panties drop. What is so hard to understand?

[Anonymous No.10423835]

>>10421935
Unsatisfying ending desu

[Anonymous No.10423852]

>>10423593
There was a big hall filled with stalls with people selling random merchandise. Mostly it was random people or some usually unknown author talking about whatever topic they wanted (there were ~6 of these going on at the same time), most of them were about books and some of them were fairly interesting. Book signings with some known authors (pic related) and mostly new ones.

The Hugo award ceremony was fucking horrible. It took way too long because they had all these useless awards to give out, like "Best Fanzine".
I didn't even know they gave out other awards than best novel, novella and short story. I guess that's my fault but shit, could've saved 90 minutes by going in late.

There was a lot of other things like parties and dance rooms which I didn't visit.

[Anonymous No.10423865]

>>10423852
>There was a big hall filled with stalls with people selling random merchandise.
>Mostly it was random people...
These are unrelated, I worded that poorly.
The people who talked about whatever, reserved a room or a hall somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10423885]

>>10423852
Bloody hell, grats on getting Death's End signed by the big Chinaman himself. Did he speak any English?

And I can sympathise with sitting through the useless awards, I've been through that a few times in different contexts.

[Anonymous No.10424038]

>>10423788
Reverse the genders and that's an honest-to-god-I-shit-you-not plot of an anime.
And I was an English major- ofc I don't read

[Anonymous No.10424094]

>>10423788
I remember the succubus specifically saying that is superficial and most of it is "his natural charm" or somesuch.

[Anonymous No.10424155]

>>10424094
His "natural charm" got a boost by x1000 by being bound with her.
No woman fucks you just like that at the drop at of a hat in a store.

[Anonymous No.10424182]

>>10423835
This, so much.
It was alright until that part. And then that made me fucking hate it.

[Anonymous No.10424357]

>>10423788
I had to cut pleasure reading to focus on academic stuff but I like to frequent here rarely to defend the combined honour of Wolfe and Watts

[Anonymous No.10424421]

>>10424357
Muh space vampires

[Anonymous No.10424434]

what should I read tomorrow, lads?

[Anonymous No.10424562]

>>10424434

[Anonymous No.10424588]

>>10424434
The Book of Revelations, but read it like you would read Science Fiction.

[Anonymous No.10424648]

The rather forgettable account of Lars Haggart, Captain of the corps. Lars commands an untested company of short-range teleporters in a regressed medieval theocracy besieged on all sides by demonic folk. Cut off from normal society due to their unnatural origins, the corps must save the embattled Churchers from 'porting demons and church politics. The emphasis leans more political than it does action. Though bland, the pacing builds nicely to conclusion. 2/5 Honey-skinned Sergeants.

[Anonymous No.10424768]

Can I read Echopraxia before Blindsight?

[Anonymous No.10424867]

Within the Malazan world, how powerful were the Segulah dudes?

[Anonymous No.10424887]

>>10421665
seconding this

[Anonymous No.10424907]

>>10424768
yeah. you'll miss some references and blindsight is a much better book, but you should be okay

[Anonymous No.10425004]

>>10424867
I completely forgot about them cause I think they're covered in one of the side stories and not Book of the Fallen.

[Anonymous No.10425008]

>>10423455
>space fantasy
>wasting time describing a space ship
Only the grodiest of science nerds gives a shit about how your shit flies through space. Focus on the characters and the plot.

[Anonymous No.10425032]

>>10423520
dont worry he becomes a cuck in book 3 and it starts at the end of book 2.

[Anonymous No.10425117]

>>10418698
Fun? It's some badly written sex scenes with a poor excuse for a story acting as filler. I'd be fine with some good fantasy erotica but this isn't it.

[Anonymous No.10425290]

>>10421082
Terminus

[Anonymous No.10425331]

>>10425290
actually?

[Anonymous No.10425422]

>>10425331
Yes, of course
What kind of question is that
get another monitor that constantly plays LOTR and blade runner for tru-sffg

[Anonymous No.10425486]

Does "Quantum Thief" make sense eventually? Right now I'm lost in a jumble of real science words and absolute gibberish technobabble that I can't distinguish from the names that largely make no sense to me.
Will there be a moment it "clicks" and everything makes sense, or will it always be like reading an instruction manual in a language you only understand roughly 60%?

[Anonymous No.10425615]

Looking for a YA Urban Fantasy novel.

I don't remember much from it: besides that, it starts out saying her day couldn't get any worse before druids come to her store?

[Anonymous No.10425644]

>>10425615
>YA

[Anonymous No.10425651]

>>10425644
Yes, anon, other people have different taste in books, shocking as that may be.

[Anonymous No.10425910]

>>10425615
No other details at all?

[Anonymous No.10425947]

>>10422693
Jordan tied it all together, except that he never had the time to write the books.

>>10422559
There are several more moments like this, most of them related to borderlanders, including some in the Sanderson part.

[Anonymous No.10425958]

>>10423743
The only link I see between Steelheart and >>10423102 is "random superpowers".

[Anonymous No.10426085]

>>10425486
git gud

[Anonymous No.10426105]

Can we discuss Space Opera and Planetary Romance?
>Golden Age
C.L. Moores Northwest Smith stories
Leigh Brackets solar system stories and Erik John Stark stories
>1960s New Wave
Samuel R. Delanys Babel-17 and Nova
M. John Harrisons The Centauri Device
Frank Herberts Dune
>contemporary
Dan Simmons Hyperion
Alastair Reynolds Revelation Space series
Ian M. Banks Hydrogen Sonata
Gardner Dozois and George R.R. Martin have edited two retro throwback anthologies, Old Mars and Old Venus. And Dozois has also edited a New Space Opera anthology.

What other works would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.10426115]

>>10422858
Midnight Tides has characters and events that will pop up in the rest of the books. I actually liked it a lot because of Trull's tragedy, but to each his own.

[Anonymous No.10426144]

>>10425615

[Anonymous No.10426147]

>>10426105

Cool, thank you

[Anonymous No.10426170]

>>10426105
This new comic just published

[Anonymous No.10426177]

>>10426170
That reminds me I still want to try reading Conan. I read the first Fafnrd and the Grey Mouser and thought it was pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.10426193]

>>10425947
>Jordan tied it all together
Is there any source out there that he actually tied anything but the general ending, Light winning, Rand living, the fight with Mordin, together? I recall reading that there were extensive notes and finished chapters but that there were few decisions on who would live and how characters arcs would end. I mean, Jordan said he'd release AMoL as one book, something that most should understand would never have been possible.

[Anonymous No.10426194]

>>10419361
How's wizard knight?

[Anonymous No.10426204]

I'm working on a novel at the moment and I was wondering what /sffG/ had to say about the idea of special schools.

Imagine an academy created by the government where orphans, and those who would otherwise not be missed, could be sent. The students would be subjected to a neo-Spartan education. Harsh punishments, intense physical training, as well as education in rhetoric, art, statecraft, maths and the sciences. They would be trained not necessarily as super soldiers or hyper-indoctrinated ideal citizens, but rather as supremely capable individuals with a morality more flexible and detached than your average human.

What else would such a school teach? What would be some of the unintended side-effects of such an up-bringing?

At the moment I've got two characters in mind: one who turned out as planned - cold, detached, ruthless but creative, charismatic and with a highly developed sense of justice and purpose. The other is sociopathic, merciless and desperate for a sense of peace and belonging. Together and sometimes against each other, they work to create their own visions of what an interstellar human civilisation should look like

[Anonymous No.10426214]

>>10426204
This seems like Ender's Game. The last two characters are pretty close to Ender, and Peter.

[Anonymous No.10426215]

>>10426194
it flushes down the toilet all the crappy mediocre LotR derived fantasy that's been produced over the past 40 years and produces something wonderous

[Anonymous No.10426222]

>>10419361
>R.A. Salvatore
licensed media pleb
>>10419352
I don't know if you can have Hard SF and Horror
Hard SF sort of prohibits monsters. As soon as the monster ate someone the alien biochemistry would kill it.
And Mountains of Madness is not Hard SF

But something that's pretty Hard SF that was kinda horrific, but not because of monsters, I would recommend Kim Stanley Robinsons novel Aurora.
Its horror comes from its bleakness.

[Anonymous No.10426227]

>>10426214
I read Ender's Game but not the following books so I don't know how Peter or Ender's sister turned out, but the idea here is that the kids would only ever have a limited exposure to the outside world and humanity at large. Like growing up in a boot camp where you could watch reality TV a few nights a week and then when you turn 18, you get recruited by the CIA, Wall Street or the White House.

I'm just trying to think up what sort of education these kids would need.

[Anonymous No.10426266]

>>10425117
You got it mixed up. It's badly written sex scenes as a poor excuse for filler, for a great story. I could have done with less sex. The story and world were great though.

[Anonymous No.10426277]

>>10426170
>sword of ages
>age of swords

[Anonymous No.10426310]

>>10426277
>book one of the blah blah blah
dropped

[Anonymous No.10426329]

>When you see Gaul, tell him Chiad is gai'shain to a man with strong hands, a man whose heart is fire.
Does this mean gaul got cucked?

[Anonymous No.10426331]

>>10426222
>As soon as the monster ate someone the alien biochemistry would kill it.
While this is not guaranteed at all, and you're a moron for thinking it is, and even dumber for thinking that's what horror is, and an absolute dribbling idiot for not reading Blindsight, there was a Haldeman short where the monster did die to alien biochemistry but not before it rips your skin off. It was plenty horrific IMO.

[Anonymous No.10426391]

>>10426193
Yes, the actual preface of The Gathering Storm. Sanderson says >>10425947

[Anonymous No.10426401]

>>10426329
That was just Bain trolling Gaul again.

[Anonymous No.10426409]

>>10426329
No.
Even if sex had happened, he would not be cucked because to the Aiel what happens when you are gai'shain doesn't count. When you are gai'shain you are not "you".

[Anonymous No.10426412]

>>10426105
You might as well read the old John Carter stories. I got a collection of the first five (the ones in the public domain) and read it in between other stuff over a year ago. Aside from the invulnerable protagonist, it's actually quite good, and a lot of fun to see the origin of so many tropes.

I've got Hyperion in my backlog, will probably read it in the next month. I enjoyed Dune although it's a lot weirder than the older stuff. I understand some of the hate it gets -- it's good but overrated -- but the shills claiming it's unreadable need to fuck off. I suspect that it was the go-to "literary" SF novel for a few decades until BotNS kicked it off that perch. And BotNS is a superior work, but that doesn't make Dune bad.

On the modern side, I'm going to do my usual shill for Count to a Trillion. It's not for everyone, and even if you like it you will find parts you need to tolerate, but it's worth a shot. The author is highly genre-aware and the story has tremendous scope.

[Anonymous No.10426419]

>>10426409
>It's not cheating if she was high

[Anonymous No.10426435]

>>10426409
cuck mentality right there.

[Anonymous No.10426439]

>TFW I will never read all the recommendations I get from this thread
How fast does everyone here read?

[Anonymous No.10426442]

>>10426419
>>10426435
What are you two morons babbling about? I'm not stating a belief, I'm telling you how it is in a fictional book.

[Anonymous No.10426444]

>>10426439
I can usually get through a novel in 2-3 hours assuming they aren't doorstoppers like the WoT books.

[Anonymous No.10426449]

>>10425290
>jokes about Foundation Trilogy and fonts
my life is really spiralling downhill for me to find this that funny

[Anonymous No.10426453]

>>10426439
A good week I read 1-2 books, and I feel like I'll never have time to read all the books I want to.

[Anonymous No.10426457]

>>10426204
This entire idea is absurd because it violates the rights of children. You need something supporting the principle of it.

[Anonymous No.10426462]

>>10426457
half the world doesnt care about human rights. its not that far fetched. theres been worse things that a government has done.

[Anonymous No.10426467]

>>10426215
>>10426194
>wizard knight

Mon visage quand gene wolf wrote isekai.

[Anonymous No.10426479]

>>10426462
like what? come on, spill the beans. stealing orphans and raising them into weird little super-soldiers is daft, it worked in Ender's Game because they were at war the buggers plus it sort of promoted international cooperation. Also it was just tough, not the torture you described.
Run with your idea but you need to support it, all I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.10426510]

>>10423885
Nah he didn't say a word.

>>10425486
Of course it becomes easier as you understand more about the concepts and factions. It's not an easy book, but it should make sense from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.10426513]

Any fantasy book with a power system that at least comes close to something like Nen from HxH or any fucking good developed system from a shounen manga? Its all generic trash in almost all the fantasy books i read.

[Anonymous No.10426517]

I hate this cover
I love this book
It's a little too light fantasy and the humor is pretty juvenile but damn I am having fun reading it

Someone commission a better cover so I can print that instead

[Anonymous No.10426526]

Are we seriously gonna pretend we're too cool for Gaiman?

[Anonymous No.10426528]

>>10426204

[Anonymous No.10426540]

>>10426439
I know this feel

[Anonymous No.10426544]

>>10426526
The only worthwhile thing he's ever done was Sandman. He does seem to have pretty good taste so I assume he's aware of how far he falls short of being truly good.

[Anonymous No.10426591]

>>10420722
You're jewish Larry

[Anonymous No.10426593]

>>10426517
Goes downhill with the ogre.

What a shame

[Anonymous No.10426604]

Still a bit of a pleb, so I still need to finish this list. Reading Canticle For Leibowitz now, but what should I read next?

[Anonymous No.10426612]

>>10426453
That's about my pace too and I have a few full shelves of books, but every time I see a rec chart or something, I can rarely say I've read more than half of it. There are just so many books.

[Anonymous No.10426618]

>>10426526
>>10426544
Honestly, he's not the best author in existence but he's certainly better than, for example, Sanderson and Erikson, to mention two highly average authors that get praise around here.

[Anonymous No.10426622]

>>10426612
I read 1-2 a week if I'm in a reading mode, and it depends on length obviously. The answer is really more like 30-60 pages an hour depending on content reading closely and around 100 if I'm skimming a bit.

I typically keep it to well-known books and authors I trust, otherwise there's just too much. Plus there's whole subgenres I have no interest in like epic fantasy or space opera.

[Anonymous No.10426623]

>>10426604
Snow Crash

[Anonymous No.10426630]

>>10426618
They're not getting any praise from me. As someone like >>10426453 with a huge notional backlog I don't really have any tolerance for interminable time sinks, no matter how "comfy" they are.

[Anonymous No.10426710]

>>10426622
>Plus there's whole subgenres I have no interest in like epic fantasy or space opera.
That's my big problem. I'm one of those faggots that like everything and have almost no taste or barriers. I believe there have been only three books I couldn't finish because they were so bad, and I'm having trouble remembering the third so there might just be two. I even read fucking urban fantasy.

[Anonymous No.10426752]

NOW THIS IS WHAT A FUCKIN WHORE LOOKS LIKE

[Anonymous No.10426764]

Will 2018 finally bring it to us? Or will the publishers wait till the TV series starts airing to maximize impact?

[Anonymous No.10426775]

I just finished all the books in the Cradle series, and I need some more Western wuxia type of shit. Supernormal physical abilities, training, 'leveling up', martial arts, all that shit. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.10426844]

>>10426764
This series is fucking trash. I've only ever completely dropped a few books without bothering to finish them, but this is one of them. Kvothe is one of the worst fantasy protagonists I've read. And his constant obsession with that whore Denna is ridiculous. I still to this day have no clue how this series became so popular.

[Anonymous No.10426846]

>>10426844
Very original opinion.

[Anonymous No.10426870]

>>10426764
I unironically hope that it's never published. I've read the two first book and have a feeling that someone will give me Doors of Stone as a gift and I'll more or less feel obliged to read it.

[Anonymous No.10426890]

>It's a rival fight episode
god I love reading

[Anonymous No.10426891]

>0/10 story told in 10/10 prose
What did he mean by this? This is probably the best worst book I've ever read. How do the following novels rank? Is random words generator guy going to stick around? I kind of started warming up to him.

[Anonymous No.10426902]

>>10426891
I still don't understand this prose meme

what makes something good or bad prose

[Anonymous No.10426921]

>>10426439
Between 30-80 pages an hour, depending on what I read.

[Anonymous No.10426925]

>>10426902
>what makes something good or bad prose
Science fiction and fantasy readers wouldn't know.

[Anonymous No.10426933]

What should i read next?

[Anonymous No.10426938]

>>10426439
about 3-4 hours for a ~250 page novel.

[Anonymous No.10426943]

>>10426938
speedreading4lyfe

[Anonymous No.10426960]

>>10426439
>see replies
I read like 20 pages an hour D:
I reread paragraphs constantly

[Anonymous No.10426978]

>>10426925
Show me good prose

[Anonymous No.10427013]

>>10426960
There's literally nothing wrong with that. Reading reasonably slow is even better, since you actually get to enjoy the writing and don't miss the story.

[Anonymous No.10427014]

>>10426978

[Anonymous No.10427049]

>>10426960
>>10427013
t. brainlets that cant retain information without constant repetition.

[Anonymous No.10427052]

>>10426978

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10427068]

>>10426105
>no Jack Vance
Tschai, Cadwal Chronicles," Ports of Call", "Lurulu", "Space Opera", ...

[Anonymous No.10427083]

>>10419659
Who hurt you, anon?

[Anonymous No.10427117]

Reading this now. Goddammit, Francis is fucking adorable.

[Anonymous No.10427126]

>>10426775
Try Blood Song

[Anonymous No.10427128]

>>10423075
They just made two whole movies out of Star Warsfan fiction, and yours is probably better.

[Anonymous No.10427186]

>>10426177
Read them sparsely because they're kinda repetitive, but read the intro establishing the world every time you read one. Howard really shines best there.

[Anonymous No.10427206]

What's everyone's goodreads?

I need some frens.

[Anonymous No.10427238]

>>10426978
The Ingenious Nobleman Sir Quixote of La Mancha

[Anonymous No.10427258]

>>10427117
Well, that'll teach me not to get attached to characters any more, I guess.

[Anonymous No.10427344]

Can I get some recommendations for pyschological horror, short fiction or full novels are welcome. Anything in the vein of Silent Hill 2?

[Anonymous No.10427428]

>>10426752
what ever it takes

[Anonymous No.10427463]

>>10426204
japan had a program like that during world war two, look it up

[Anonymous No.10427502]

I knew sanderson wouldn't cuck my boy Adolin. Get fucked, Kaladin. That's what you get for being a useless sad sack of shit.

Now what to read next, do I jump straight into another Fantasy series, or go with some literary classics or philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10427544]

>>10427344
Thomas Ligotti, start with "The Last Feast of Harlequin"

[Anonymous No.10427564]

What's a good big ass sci-fi collection book?

[Anonymous No.10427566]

>>10427502
Atlas Shrugged

[Anonymous No.10427567]

>>10426764
But Trump will be president till 2025.

[Anonymous No.10427570]

>>10418549
if you’re not reading Gibson, Crichton and Dick you’re just reading infantile trash

[Anonymous No.10427572]

>>10427258
Your character got attached to somebody's colon

[Anonymous No.10427579]

>>10427502
Is that shitty love triangle over? I haven't read Oathbringer yet, but I could tell from the second book that that's where Sanderson was heading. If he put an end to it in the third book, then thank god.

[Anonymous No.10427611]

>>10427206
Post your own and I might add you if you're not shit taste.

[Anonymous No.10427616]

>>10427579
I had the same fear as you. Even throughout Oathbringer, but Sanderson made the right choice.
Overall I thought the book was fantastic, and waiting 3 years for a sequel is going to suck.

[Anonymous No.10427622]

>>10427564
Dune
BotNS
Foundation

[Anonymous No.10427774]

>>10418549
Is Vonnegut SF or not?

[Anonymous No.10427835]

still going to happen

[Anonymous No.10427839]

Looking for some decent contempary sci fi, already ordering Ada Palmers work, is pic related any good?

[Anonymous No.10427849]

>>10427839
>At the Financial Times, James Lovegrove described it as "SF for the Tumblr generation, a feel-good tale of non-conformity, gender fluidity, multiculturalism and unorthodox sexual relationships", and "perfectly pleasant", but faulted it for "somewhat lacking (...) dramatic tension"

Why do you feel the need to read "books" written by communist women

[Anonymous No.10427850]

>>10427839
https://apps.npr.org/best-books-2017/#/tag/science-fiction-and-fantasy

[Anonymous No.10427865]

>>10427849
I was just one of better reviewed books on Amazon anon.

>>10427850
Thanks mate.

[Anonymous No.10427880]

>>10427865
I dont think reviews on Amazon is where you find books to read

You should follow basic rules: Don't read books by women, don't read books with women protags, don't read books by out spoken liberals, and try not to read books where religion or corporations or "fascists" are the villain.

[Anonymous No.10427884]

>>10427880
Okay, now do the opposite of everything this guy said

[Anonymous No.10427894]

>>10427880
Shit taste

[Anonymous No.10427898]

Oh also NEVER EVER read urban fantasy, watch out for the "mm" tag, it means homosex

[Anonymous No.10428093]

>>10425910
Shit, I read this book when I was in seventh or Eighth grade. All I know is that it started like that.

[Anonymous No.10428132]

Name things you like to see in sci fi.

[Anonymous No.10428159]

>>10428132
Anime robots

[Anonymous No.10428172]

>>10427880
While the most unsatisfying and infuriating novels I've ever read have been by women, my favorite fantasy book also happens to be by one. So rather than avoiding female authors, I would suggest to be careful, as in my experience they are either good or awful with nothing in between. Same with stories featuring female protagonists.

Probably ditto on the liberals, but only if it's recent.

As for religion, corporations and fascists: you're fucking retarded — some of the best fantasy deals with the hero battling evil cults, corrupt rich men or tyrannical empires.

[Anonymous No.10428174]

>>10418549
If this is your thing, you should look into the Tarnsman of Gor series by John Norman. It starts out as fantasy with some domination aspects, then straddles the line between fantasy and erotica before just becoming erotica later in the series.

[Anonymous No.10428212]

>>10428132
Anime robot booty.

[Anonymous No.10428267]

>>10427898
> NEVER EVER read urban fantasy

UF is like any genre. There are good novels & series and lots of bad ones.

[Anonymous No.10428301]

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[Anonymous No.10428968]

>>10426623
This sucks balls, don't bother, this fucker probably read it 20 years ago

[Anonymous No.10428984]

>>10428968
You are as mistaken as you are foolish.