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[Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E No.1041124]

If Hemingway was such a tough guy why'd he kill himself?

inb4onlytruewritersoffthemselves

[Anonymous No.1041126]

he wasn't afraid of death.

[Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E No.1041132]

>>1041126
Yeah but real men don't give into death so easily.

[Anonymous No.1041138]

>>1041132
actually, real men know when it is time to die, they don't humble themselves with the cowardice of extraneous years, where life can only diminish in pleasure, impact and power.

[Implying !!OwMMiDsuHLo No.1041135]

Not sure if you're trolling, but-

If you've read any Hemingway, you'll start to notice this serious fixation on loss and heartbreak throughout his major works.

I assume that was a big part of it.

[Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E No.1041143]

>>1041138
You need to be around more real men and not hipster boys.

[Anonymous No.1041156]

Before he died his health had made it so that he couldn't fuck, eat like he was used to or drink.

[Anonymous No.1041158]

>>1041132
it was suicide, he didn't give into death
if anything death gave into hemingway

[Anonymous No.1041159]

He spent a good portion of his life hunting fearsome beasts.

He decided to kill the most fearsome of them all.

[Anonymous No.1041160]

>>1041143
>implying you know anything about real men, and that you'd recognize one if he walked up and kicked you in the ass

[Anonymous No.1041166]

>>1041132
I don't think you can say he gave into it easily, considering its something he struggled with for years. And the premise is flawed, I don't think we can call Hemingway a tough guy. He strived hes entire life to make himself into the kind of model stereotype of what he thought a man should be. To me that is lame shit.

[Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E No.1041171]

I guess maybe I'd kill myself if I got that fat too.

[Anonymous No.1041179]

>>1041171
>implying you'd kill yourself if you lost 50 pounds

[Stagolee !0Pey/QLK3E No.1041190]

>>1041179
>implying I weigh that much

[Anonymous No.1041205]

>>1041159
touche

[Anonymous No.1042120]

many men had tried to kill Hemingway, but in the end, only one man had the balls to finish the job.

Hemingway.

[Anonymous No.1042125]

That was the only way he'd have been able to die.

Only he was powerful enough to kill himself.

[Dr.Kashmir !!pSxx/jI370I No.1042126]

He had to see if he could beat it

shotgun won

[Anonymous No.1042130]

Because suicide is painless. It brings on many changes.

[Anonymous No.1042131]

>>1042120

[Anonymous No.1042142]

onlytruewritersoffthemselves

[Anonymous No.1042148]

>>1042142
sayswho?

[Anonymous No.1042151]

He probably hated himself and life and didn't want to do it any more.

Thanks for freeing up a parking space, Ernie.

[Anonymous No.1042193]

you calling me a pussy?

[Anonymous No.1042217]

>>1042193
I'm pretty sure Thompson didn't kill himself. The government did it.

[Anonymous No.1042220]

>>1042217
0/10. Lamest troll I've seen all day.

[User !!pYYsvcy90AL No.1042234]

>>1042220
I don't think you know what that word means boy.

[Anonymous No.1042243]

"The worst part is wondering how you’ll find the strength tomorrow to go on doing what you did today and have been doing for much too long, where you’ll find the strength for all that stupid running around, those projects that come to nothing, those attempts to escape from crushing necessity, which always founder and serve only to convince you one more time that destiny is implacable, that every night will find you down and out, crushed by the dread of more and more sordid and insecure tomorrows. And maybe it’s treacherous old age coming on, threatening the worst. Not much music left inside us for life to dance to. Our youth has gone to the ends of the earth to die in the silence of the truth. And where, I ask you, can a man escape to, when he hasn’t enough madness left inside him? The truth is an endless death agony. The truth is death. You have to choose: death or lies. I’ve never been able to kill myself" - Celine.

[Anonymous No.1042250]

>>1041159

THIS

[Anonymous No.1042256]

>>1042243
wah wah listen to the little baby

[Anonymous No.1042262]

>>1042193
yes i am
thompson was a fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.1042264]

Because he had syphilis.

/thread

[Anonymous No.1042272]

"As long as we're young, we manage to find excuses for the stoniest indifference, the most blatant caddishness, we put them down to emotional eccentricity or some sort of romantic inexperience. But later on, when life shows us how much cunning, cruelty, and malice are required just to keep the body at ninety-eight point six, we catch on, we know the scene, we begin to understand how much swinishness it takes to make up a past. Just take a close look at yourself and the degree of rottenness you've come to. There's no mystery about it, no more room for fairy tales; if you've lived this long, it's because you've squashed any poetry you had in you."

[Anonymous No.1042437]

BRB, oven.

[Anonymous No.1042449]

Stagolee you are the gayest tripfag in any chan anywhere fuck off and die

[Anonymous No.1042467]

He wanted to re-enact the William Tell apple scene, and Willaim Burrough's wife was already dead.

[Anonymous No.1042468]

>>1042449

[Anonymous No.1042531]

>>1042272
Countering nihilistic, Nazi shitposting.

"PLAYBOY: If life is so purposeless, do you feel that it's worth living?
STANLEY KUBRICK: Yes, for those of us who manage somehow to cope with our mortality. The very meaninglessness of life forces man to create his own meaning. Children, of course, begin life with an untarnished sense of wonder, a capacity to experience total joy at something as simple as the greenness of a leaf; but as they grow older, the awareness of death and decay begins to impinge on their consciousness and subtly erode their joie de vivre, their idealism—and their assumption of immortality. As a child matures, he sees death and pain everywhere about him, and begins to lose faith in faith and in the ultimate goodness of man. But if he's reasonably strong—and lucky—he can emerge from this twilight of the soul into a rebirth of life's èlan. Both because of and in spite on his awareness of the meaninglessness of life, he can forge a fresh sense of purpose and affirmation. He may not recapture the same pure sense of wonder he was born with, but he can shape something far more enduring and sustaining. The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent; but if we can come to terms with this indifference and accept the challenges of life within the boundaries of death—however mutable man may be able to make them—our existence as a species can have genuine meaning and fulfillment. However vast the darkness, we must supply our own light."

[Anonymous No.1042536]

>>1042272

Great observation.

Ernest Hemingway killed himself because he believed he could no longer write, because he could no longer fuck and because he could no longer drink.

[Anonymous No.1042544]

>>1042531
>èlan

Should say élan, obviously. Blame Hefner's web monkeys.

[Anonymous No.1042598]

If one is self-willed, and if one has any control over one's life, there comes a time to check out rather than endure any further indignity. That time is approaching in my life.

[Anonymous No.1042620]

Because he never saw K-ON!!

[Anonymous No.1042628]

>>1042531

That post was neither National Socialist, nor Nihilist.

[Anonymous No.1042629]

During his final years, Hemingway's behavior was similar to his father's before he himself committed suicide;[149] his father may have had the genetic disease hemochromatosis, in which the inability to metabolize iron culminates in mental and physical deterioration.[150] Medical records made available in 1991 confirm that Hemingway's hemochromatosis had been diagnosed in early 1961.[151] His sister Ursula and his brother Leicester also committed suicide.[152] Added to Hemingway's physical ailments was the additional problem that he had been a heavy drinker for most of his life.[112]

tl;dr: sickness fucked his mentality

[Anonymous No.1042634]

He killed himself because he was losing his ability to write.

He was man enough to realize his purpose was completed and that without writing he would really just be wasting time.

That's about as manly as you can get.

[Anonymous No.1042637]

>>1042634

Like a ronin performing seppuku upon losing his master.

[Anonymous No.1042641]

>>1042437
holy shit plath was hot!

[Anonymous No.1042653]

>>1042641
She was pretty, and yes, as far as female writers go, she ranks as hot.

[Anonymous No.1042884]

among other things, he was treated using primitive ECT techniques for depression and dipsomania. this fucked his memory and, to use his own words, "put him out of business."

[Anonymous No.1043014]

>>1042628
>implying that was not a passage from Céline

[Anonymous No.1043020]

>>1043014

Celine wasn't a Nazi. You're jumping to a tabloid simplification.

[Anonymous No.1043047]

he trolled you all and actually lives on as the freejazz sax player Peter Brötzmann
pic related

[Anonymous No.1043636]

Thompson killed himself because because he lived longer than he planned to and he was bored with life. Read his suicide note and you'll see what I mean.