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/SFFg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:21:31 No.10396147 [Reply] [Original]

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>current read
>what's it about
>next read
>total books explored so far for 2017

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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General:
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NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:23:04 No.10396154 First for Shallan’s sweaty unwashed stinky safehand.

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:23:18 No.10396156 >>10396147 >/SFFg/ You're a sweetheart.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:30:56 No.10396196
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/sffg/, we are going to make a short fiction anthology.

>does this mean I should post my ideas
No. Talk about them on IRC, the channel is #sffg-antho on the Rizon server.
>but it's a really good idea
Let's not summon the haters.
>where should I submit them
Pastebin them and link them on IRC. They will then be shredded by other anons so you can get defensive and stutter about how it's actually good and they're bad people for not loving it, and then get over it and make your story good.
>what should I submit
Nobody cares as long as it's not boring and it is SFF.
>when should I submit it by
February 14th.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:36:34 No.10396214 >>10396196 >Nobody cares as long as it's not boring and it is SFF. I only read deep, boring dry fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:39:44 No.10396225 webnovels are NOT novels and NOT /sffg/

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:39:54 No.10396227 >>10396196 What's the word limit?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:49:34 No.10396260 >>10396225 You can't stop anyone, nerd

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:51:08 No.10396264

>>10396227
35-40k? A couple of novellas could be nice, but longer stories are more likely to be viewed as boring and rejected out of hand.

Oh, feel free to submit a bunch of different stories under a bunch of different pseudonyms, or just anonymously. This will be an all-anon project, nobody gets to boost their brand with it or make any money off it.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:51:43 No.10396267

>>10396196
i tried looking for sffg-antho on some IRC website but i dont even know if it was the right website or whatever a rizon server is and i just got lost so i basically gave up.
choose a less difficult place to find for submissions or link to it or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:55:10 No.10396278 tenth for webnovels are novels too

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:55:36 No.10396281 File: 366 KB, 790x1199, invisible-planets.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What I am for boys? >>10396267 Do you...even know what IRC is?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:57:38 No.10396293

>>10396267
1. Install Hexchat
2. Run Hexchat
3. When it starts up, it will present a list of networks. Find Rizon.
3a. If the network list does not show up, find it in the menu under HexChat->Network List.
4. Another window will ask you what channel you wish to join. #sffg-antho

>>10396281
Of course they don't, that's why they keep begging for ebook links.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:58:42 No.10396298

I just finished the first Malazon book. I knew what I was getting into, but I think I'm getting tired of high fantasy of this level. Gods, ultra-magic and needing so many books to tell a story. It's just unnecessary. I have an informal book club with a friend though, and I promised we'd at least read two since people say it gets better. I do dislike active Gods, it somehow feels juvenile and lazy.

I'm currently reading Oathbringer. Hopefully it'll cheer me up! I enjoyed the first two a lot. Hope fucking Shallan won't turn into an annoying attention whore.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 15:59:44 No.10396302 >>10396298 ;)

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:00:01 No.10396305 >>10396298 She turns into three.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:02:50 No.10396324
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This book is fucking terrible. This is my second "cyberpunk" (which this barely qualifies as) book after Snowcrash. If this is really the best the sub-genre has to offer I fear for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:05:52 No.10396344 >>10396267 Put it on the discord https://discord.gg/KxPGpmU but you'll never know about the higher-level IRC discussions and it has never been easier in the history of mankind to figure out what IRC is you human turd

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:06:24 No.10396346 >>10396324 >not reading the sprawl trilogy first You fucked up

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:08:21 No.10396360 >>10396293 well good luck with that. and good luck getting submissions. >>10396147 >books explored so far r.a. salvatore is pretty good. hopefully the cleric quintet can live up to the hype.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:14:05 No.10396388

>>10396346
Neuromancer was pretty bad man. So bad I had forgotten I had read it. Points for creativity though I guess. I just have to accept there is some fetishism in cyberpunk I don't understand and it's not about the story telling, literary value, immersion (contrary to what people claim), or even moral compass of the sub-genre.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:32:22 No.10396477
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I read The Cloud Of Hate (1963) a Fafhrd and Gray Mouser tale from Fritz Leiber. In an underground vault in Lankhmar, an evil cult summons a fog serpent which begins to creep through the evening streets.

The short story contrasts horrific and humorous scenes. We see the progress of the malevolent cloud as it possesses the various criminals and low-lives in its path; meanwhile, Fafhrd and Gray Mouser bicker and grumble about their lack of fortune in front of a brazier. We get a keen sense of the debauched Lankhmar nightlife, and the amiable friendship of its pair of protagonists. The climactic fight sequence is as good as ever from Leiber, with a memorable monster at its centre. This is one of the better F+GM tales and good entertainment. 4/5 dinosaurs.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:35:02 No.10396491

>>10396196
>>10396267
>>10396360
Alright discord babbies

*************************************************
CLICK HERE -> https://www.rizon.net/chat
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Type a random name into the "Nickname" field
VERY IMPORTANT vvvvvvvv
Type #sffg-antho into the "Channel" field
VERY IMPORTANT ^^^^^^^^
CLICK CONNECT!
YAY! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:47:58 No.10396549 >>10396491 >having to explain IRC to newfags i pity you anon. just let them figure it out. its not like its actually hard or anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:51:59 No.10396559 >>10396549 What if we don't hold their hands and we miss out on their valuable underaged submissions though?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:55:50 No.10396571 what are some good short 250 pages or less books you guys would recommend? seems like everything recommended here requires months to read through.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 16:59:46 No.10396585

>>10396324
Well Netflix sure thinks it's good enough for a series, and we all know how high that threshold is.

But for reals, does it at least have good imagery or gimmicks? I really want a cyberpunk TV show, and a few good combat cyborgs with high impulse weapon systems and rain coats will carry me through any shit plot that it most definitely has. Just reading the dustcover was bad. 500 year old samurai warrior solves a murder of an immortal vampire king nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:00:52 No.10396595 >>10396196 s-should I make another aspiring author meme?

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:04:31 No.10396613

>>10396571
Broken Sword
Face in the Frost
The King of Elfland's Daughter
Nightfall and Other Stories
The Door into Summer
A Night in the Lonesome Octobor

>>10396595
That would be useless, since
1. Participants would be actual authors, not merely aspiring
2. This is an /sffg/ project, not an attempt to bloat some anon's ego
3. You've already made several and they don't work, threats notwithstanding

How about you stop trying to be dictator of the general and just let people do things you don't like?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:05:46 No.10396616 >>10396613 At least she cares.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:06:45 No.10396621 >>10396225 That is what the OP's image says. >no one cares

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:09:04 No.10396629

>>10396585
The prose is decent, and the only place in which I believe the book stands out. All I can say is this book in conjunction with a few others (liberally labeled "cyberpunk") has made me acknowledge the possibility that Sci Fi is not for me. I can't really answer your question on gimmicks because the book barely makes any use of the world around it the protagonist. It really depends on how gimmicky you want it to be and what gimmicks you want to see. It's by the numbers noir generica that could have taken place in almost any other setting. It feels like it was a free write and it was written beat by beat and the author didn't even look back. It requires a level of turning your brain off I'm just not used to. I don't hate Sci Fi btw. I really enjoyed Hyperion and a few others, but this book honestly has me a little afraid to pick up another sci fi book. It's holding me hostage and not in a god way.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:09:43 No.10396633 >>10396293 >#sffg-antho >not #sffg-anthro

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:11:20 No.10396638 >>10396293 I don't understand the insistence on irc in a post-discord reality

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:12:45 No.10396643 >>10396559 yes, no one has ever made good literature and been bad at irc at the same time, they are very closely connected

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:23:01 No.10396678

>>10396638
One is a standardized communications protocol that is implemented by a variety of open and proprietary clients for a fully customizable experience. The other is a nonstandard botnet protocol implemented by a single botnet provider for one awful botnet experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:33:47 No.10396718 Can anyone rec me a book that has a similar narrative / tone / setting to Dark Souls? Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:35:23 No.10396722 >>10396638 Some people don't have enough RAM to run Discord, It's awfully unoptimized.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:51:04 No.10396784
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>>10396156
Well when I use my filters to autobump sffg to the top, I use the i flag on /sffg/ which is the case insensitive filter.
>>10396638
The #ebooks channel on IRCHighway is the single biggest source of easily pirated fiction ebooks in existence. Simply @search any author or book and paste a line from the .txt sent to you in order to download a book instantly.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:52:54 No.10396794

>>10396629
Bummer. When I look for cyberpunk, I like a good new take on the possibility of technology. You can make all sorts of awful terrible things to inflict on people, like people being hardwired together as computers, limbs being replaced with concealed weapons, some sort of hyper toxic environment that forces robotification, under ground Android fight clubs, giant birthing tanks full of body parts. You know, cool bits.

When you put that kind of book on screen, a cool visual adaptation if one of those ideas can go really far. But it sounds like a detective kinda story with robots, not a crazy robot world with detectives. When you do a TV show you want to use the greater world as the starting point, instead of just following the books storyline. If that makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 17:53:33 No.10396796 >>10396722 try upgrading past a single 4gb stick, grandpa

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:13:05 No.10396863

Since the people here (including myself) actually enjoy reading genre fiction, I want to ask what /sffg/ thinks of the following popular authors/books to see if it differs from the rest of /lit/:

>Harry Potter
>The Hunger Games
>Stephen King novels
>John Green novels
>Ready Player One
>The Martian

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:15:20 No.10396874 >>10396863 All terrible

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:17:25 No.10396882

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
First couple are okay children's books. Rest are trash.
>The Hunger Games
Never read.
>Stephen King novels
Never read.
>John Green novels
John who?
>Ready Player One
Wretched. Will probably make a fun movie.
>The Martian
Hated the writing style. Movie was fun.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:18:49 No.10396888 >>10396863 Trash.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:20:48 No.10396897 >>10396863 Pre-90s King is good. The rest aren't outright bad, but there's so much better sff out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:23:06 No.10396908 >>10396571 shadow over innsmouth is pretty great if you like lovecraft. theres also a game made from that book that is fantastic.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:27:06 No.10396927

>>10396863
I don't know that we get too many normie/airport novel readers through here. I'd say we get more /v/ & /a/ crossposters who are looking for a novel-length expansion on a theme that they have enjoyed in gaming, anime or manga.

As for regulars, I don't think you'll see much praise for anything on that list.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:40:37 No.10396997

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
Never finished the first book. Everything I read that wasn't in the movie seemed to deserve being cut. To be fair, the copy I had was borrowed from school.
>Hunger Games
Pretty clever stuff. Protagonist isn't exactly likable, and 2nd book can feel too similar to first at times. 3rd book is a bit of a mess. Eventually you start to notice that every chapter ends with "and that's when x happened." x being something totally crazy, like an explosion.

I haven't read the rest.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:44:48 No.10397016 >>10396997 Also, love triangles can go to hell.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:45:39 No.10397020 what animal would make the best literature if it achieved hyper intelligence comparable to humans?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:56:03 No.10397055 >>10397020 One with hands.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 18:57:54 No.10397061 >>10397055 assume they all have a writing tool perfect for their biology.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:05:14 No.10397078 >>10397061 Probably an American.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:05:42 No.10397079 >>10397078 no

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:11:25 No.10397094

>>10397020
what is stupid, stupid question
think of the variation of ideas and ideologies just humans have, surely any intelligent civilization will share that

though having said that, if ants or some hive minds evolved advanced intelligence, or even an r-strategy species did, that could produce some interesting philosphers

Or if a species without sight evolved, they're have no concept or stars and space until they invented radio or some shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:13:29 No.10397103 >>10396264 fucking NOBODY is going to read anything that long you optimistic fuck >>10396281 The Cixin story in there, Taking Care of God, is really crap. Some of his other stories from his collection, The Wandering Earth, are fantastic though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:15:25 No.10397107 >>10397094 >what a stupid question >consider how interesting and nuanced the question is, and how this specific answer is plausible and interesting, such a stupid question!

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:18:51 No.10397118

>>10397107
you've worded a decent question poorly, you just asking about what other animals worldviews would be if they evolved human-level intellect, yes? "The best literature" is bit limiting, what if their deepest art form is song or dance or something? Octopuses talk through their chromatopores ffs. The whole point of zoology scifi is to get creative.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:20:10 No.10397125 >>10397118 no, I'm essentially asking which is the most creative animal. worldviews does not a good writer make

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:31:08 No.10397176 Oath bringer is the worst book yet, way of kings was a great book and I enjoyed the hell out of it. Oath bringer just cranked up all the annoying parts and anime bullshit up to 11. What the fuck Sanderson

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:35:01 No.10397187 File: 71 KB, 1200x470, DM19YtYWAAIvvFr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I would like more please

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:38:13 No.10397199 >>10397187 Outer /lit/ has plenty, go ask there.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Wed, Dec 13, 2017 19:38:52 No.10397200

>>10397094
>though having said that, if ants or some hive minds evolved advanced intelligence . . . that could produce some interesting philosphers
I would think they'd suffer colony collapse nearly immediately once they realized the banality of their existence. How much latitude would they have for individuality (and therefore ego) while still remaining functional as a species?

This sounded interesting in my head until I remembered it was the plotline of Hugh the Borg in TNG.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 20:02:06 No.10397294

>current read
Gardens of the Moon (Malazan Book of the Fallen 1)
>what's it about
I have no fuckin idea
>next read
Deadhouse Gates (MBotF 2)
>total books explored so far
A Game of Thrones (ASOIAF 1)
various textbooks

Reading both ASOIAF and MBotF first books. About halfway through Gardens of the Moon and its better in every way than A Game of Thrones. Will be finishing MBotF before continuing ASOIAF, assuming that the fat man finishes it.

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 21:02:43 No.10397523

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
Not bad as kids' books/YA, but certainly not something I'd ever want to reread.
>The Hunger Games
Similar to HP.
>Stephen King
Ranges from quite good to absolute trash, completely depends on the book
>John Green
Haven't read, but what I've heard isn't good.
>RPO
Literal garbage.
>The Martian
Haven't read, but the movie was pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 21:10:09 No.10397555 >>10397294 >he reads edgy fantasy Someday you'll grow out of it anon

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 21:32:11 No.10397649 >>10397555 aSoIaF isn't really edgy, my man. you should refer to something like R Scott Buttfuck for that.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 21:37:41 No.10397678 >>10397555 >edgy fantasy i disagree. if he had posted brent weeks then yes.

>>	Amonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 21:52:13 No.10397745 >>10397555 The opposite of edgy is dull.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 22:08:19 No.10397810 >>10397745 Pithy, but I'd watch my back from now on anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 22:13:29 No.10397829 Rec me a fantasy book and I'll review it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 22:15:26 No.10397835 >>10397829 The War of he Flowers by Tad Williams

Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 22:18:56 No.10397849

>>10397835
>Theo Vilmos is a thirty-year-old lead singer in a marginally successful rock band. Hitting an all-time low, he seeks refuge in an isolated cabin in the woods and reads an odd memoir written by a dead relative who believed he had visited the magical world of Faerie. Before Theo can disregard the account as nonsense, he too is drawn into a place beyond his wildest dreams.
DUDE

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 22:29:25 No.10397886 >>10397835 OK, stick around /sffg/ and I'll post the review in a couple days when I'm done.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Dec 13, 2017 23:27:53 No.10398056 >>10396643 Being dumb does hurt the quality of one's work, yes.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:05:09 No.10398178

>>10396863
Only commenting on ones I've read

>Harry Potter
Fun when I was a kid, most of them have aged poorly but still readable
>The Hunger Games
Cannot write endings of books to save her life
>Stephen King novels
See above, endings all suck in general.
>John Green novels
lmfao trash

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:09:52 No.10398190

>>10396147

>current read
Last one I finished was Annihilation, one before was Oathbringer (WoK<Oath<WoR)

>what's it about
Spooky lovecraftesque shit, new movie trailer looks like they butchered it

>next read
Probably more Brandon Sanderson. I think I finished all the Cosmere stuff, moving on to Steelheart since I hear that trilogy is real good.

>total books explored so far for 2017
Got into Sanderson over the summer, read the Dresden Files until they got shit (4th book? 5th? I lost track), a lot of stuff for my doctorate, all political science.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:11:31 No.10398197 >Tfw reading dune for the first time Holy shit im 2/3 of the way through now and I'm loving it. Are the sequels as good as the first? And if not which ones are worth reading? Please no spoilers. I'm not done the first yet

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:17:13 No.10398215

>>10398197
Messiah is better imo, Children is the worst by far, God Emperor is good but you need to read children for it, Heretics is my favorite but you need God Emperor, Chapterhouse is underrated but properly rated at the same time. Everything Brian Herbert does is well written fanfic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:17:47 No.10398217 File: 60 KB, 600x581, Hunger_Games_Simulator_Cover[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any Tournament type books out there? Yes like Hunger Games but ideally more adult. They don't even need to be death games but I'd prefer those.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:22:00 No.10398226 >>10398215 So I should just read them in order up to heretics? How bad is children? Is it a real painful chore to read or is it just not as good as the rest? Thanks for the reply by the way

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:22:05 No.10398227 >>10398217 Red Rising.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:26:03 No.10398235

>>10398226
To put it in perspective, I've read every book besides Children more than once (I just reread Heretics the other day). Children just has long slogs where little happens besides philosophy. If I go into it any more I'll get spoilery.

The issue is you absolutely need the info inside for God Emperor and later books. It's probably still a fine book, the rest are just so good it hurts that it isn't on their level.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:26:23 No.10398236 >>10398197 I finished Book 2 just now and I'm having the same thoughts. My plan is to read up to God Emperor and abandon ship there.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:32:45 No.10398249 >>10398227 I listened to like an hour of the audiobook, obnoxious as fug, sorry

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 00:35:07 No.10398254 >>10397103 Leaving it open for the power of autism.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 01:18:14 No.10398340 >>10398197 >>10398215 >>10398226 I didn't particularly like Messiah. Children and God Emperor started off slow but won me over in the end. I'll eventually finish the series but I'm in no hurry. I miss Stilgar and Thufir Hawat.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:01:31 No.10398419

>>10394302
Answering a question from the previous thread-
Clean sci-fi: Your bright and clean unarmed world is overwhelmed by invaders and it's up to your wits to save the day first, yourself second, which you can do at the same time.
Dirty sci-fi: While the writer elaborates about WW1 Trench warfare, and everything you know about becomes nuke-craters, the sky fills with the shattered and burning incoming rescue fleet. But it doesn't matter, while you die of your self inflicted burns on top of a heap of stolen life-supporting goods before the chestburster gets you.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:07:55 No.10398433 >>10398419 That's pretty idiosyncratic. Usually "clean" and "dirty" refer to sexual content, with words like "bright," "grim," "dark" pertaining to theme.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:15:21 No.10398450 >>10398217 Player of Games

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:41:50 No.10398513 >>10398419 I've been reading sci-fi for decades and I've literally never heard these descriptions before and I strongly suspect you just made them up.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:42:47 No.10398515 >>10398419 This >>10398513 That dudes a fucken sperg.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:46:20 No.10398522

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
One of my favorite series. I still love it, though I realize nostalgia plays a big part in that.
>The Hunger Games
Never read it. Watched the first movie and wasn't impressed, didn't ever feel compelled to read the books.
>Stephen King novels
I've only read Misery and the first book of Dark Tower. Dark Tower was interesting, but not enough to make me read the rest of it. Not a big fan of horror.
>John Green novels
Never read a single one, doubt I ever will.
>Ready Player One
The excepts I've read were offensively bad, no reason I would ever read it in full.
>The Martian
Boring.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 02:50:42 No.10398538

>>10396147
>current read
Nothing at the moment. I'm waiting for Oathbringer to come out on trade paperback so I can buy it. I want it to match my collection. I finished up the other books I'd been reading and currently have nothing on my plate. I've had the Kharkanas Trilogy on my backlog for a while but I'm enjoying my long break from Malazan titles and know if I get sucked back into that setting I'll be in it for months. Looking for some other epic fantasy to read right now.

>total books explored so far for 2017
explored? What does that mean? I've read about 14 or so books this year I think, but a few of those were re-reads.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 03:00:14 No.10398560

>>10396147
>>current read
Baudolino.
>>what's it about
This Italian peasant boy with a gift for learning languages and conning people gets adopted by Barbarossa and goes on a crusade to find Prester John. I know it's REAL LITERATURE and not for the likes of genre plebs such as myself but I'm enjoying it so far, especially the first chapter written in a hodgepodge of languages when the main character is young and barely literate.
>>next read
No way to tell, I don't read deliberately so much anymore and I've always got nine or ten open. Probably finish my LotR reread or go back to those Howard boxing stories.
>>total books explored so far for 2017
I don't even know. 30? 40? I don't finish books very often, especially nonfiction.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 03:09:28 No.10398573

>>10396863
this must be some kind of test to make fun of this general

>Harry Potter
children fairytale
>The Hunger Games
?????
>Stephen King novels
somewhat long and hard to enjoy
>John Green novels
?????
>Ready Player One
kind of fun in cringy way
>The Martian
movie was better

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 03:18:43 No.10398587
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So hey /SFFg/ I have a huge favor to ask.
I'm holiday shopping for relatives and my mom is a huge reader.
Mainly sci-fi/fantasy and romance.

I've been looking online for something to get her but I don't want to get her a book(s) and I got her subscriptions to a few of the science fiction journals last year.
I was wondering if you guys knew where I could get some decent stuff based off of books, Like stranger in a strange land, Rendezvous with Rama, Contact, Hyperion etc....

I've been looking all around but unless I want to get my mom a star trek or star wars mug I might be shit out of luck.

I know there's the open source stores like Redbubble and Cafepress but I kinda want to get something more official.

Thanks for your help in advance.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:00:38 No.10398648 File: 139 KB, 300x409, Anger.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHEN WILL PEACE TALKS BE RELEASED. I AM HUNGRY FOR MORE URBAN FANTASY.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:09:06 No.10398665 >>10398648 Just read Tokyo Ravens.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:16:57 No.10398677 >>10398587 wait so you want to get her something sci/fi book related? but not a book? i dont know, most merchandise related to books is from the movies theyve made from books.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:33:05 No.10398710

>>10398587
If she likes Contact you could get her another Sagan book.
He wrote a lot of really good non-fiction, cosmos, candle in the dark etc.
Although these are books and you specifically stated that you don't want to get her a book so disregard.
Contact was also made into a movie with jodie foster (sp?) the hottest lesbian ever.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:37:11 No.10398716

>>10396147
>current read
Assassin's Apprentice.
>what's it about
An apprentice to an assassin.
>next read
I don't have anything else planned before christmas, and then whatever books I get for christmas.
>total books explored so far for 2017
41, about half of them SF&F.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:41:13 No.10398721 >>10396298 >reading a 10 volume series for a book club lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:43:22 No.10398723 >>10398677 Yeah I was thinking of something with Grok on it. or maybe something related to Dune. Possibly soemthing retro-futurist. but al the online stores have lame shit in them. Maybe a retro futurist rocket ship necklace or something.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 04:46:27 No.10398726

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
Full of plot holes and inconsistencies but nails the magic feeling and the writing is at least decent. Good for normies and young fantasy writers.
>The Hunger Games
Have not read.
>Stephen King novels
Mostly trash.
>John Green novels
Have not read.
>Ready Player One
Trash.
>The Martian
Slightly better trash.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 06:08:19 No.10398858 >>10397125 >which is the most creative anima Prolly still the ocotopus thlse bois flexible

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 06:36:09 No.10398923 >>10398716 >be me >halfway though Assassin's Apprentice >realize that it's basically what Kingkiller Chronicle is trying to be

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 06:50:15 No.10398970 what book should I read today?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 06:56:14 No.10398994 >>10398970 The Colour Out of Space

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 07:01:31 No.10399007 On a scale of 1-10 how pretentious is Little, Big?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:02:18 No.10399157 >>10396147 What's going on in this pic? What does it mean to, "go anime"?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:07:44 No.10399173 >>10397849 So it actually exists? I always thought isekai and litrpg were /sffg/ memes.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:18:48 No.10399190
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>>10398217
Red Rising.
You have to read a gud way in. The start is horrendous and reads like some hunger games divergent shit. Just read till he leaves the tunnels. You have to promise us that you will do so.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:26:26 No.10399203 File: 50 KB, 369x604, 1499694687927.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10398723 >>10398587 >something with Grok on it. On a lvl from 1-11, how complex is your Oedipus?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:33:06 No.10399217 >>10399157 when /a/ invades /lit/. They should be fucking banned. If I can't discuss naruto in /a/ without getting banned / deleted, then animefags shouldn't be able to post their shit in /lit/.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:35:25 No.10399226 >>10399217 You've been able to discuss Naruto in /a/ for years, and anyway you've always been free to talk anime-related /lit/ there same as when you talk /lit/-related anime.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:40:06 No.10399234 File: 1.51 MB, 320x329, 1412251128071.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10399217

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 08:55:52 No.10399275 >>10399203 heinlein isn't the most famous sci fi writer

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 09:03:05 No.10399289 >>10399203 Considering all my past girlfirneds seem to share at least one quality from my mom. I'd say Im full Freudian. Though I've been keeping it in check beucase my subconsious creates dreams which ensure a reaction formation.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:02:28 No.10399444 >>10398721 >Not reading nor understanding the whole post lmaoing @ your life, kid

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:18:46 No.10399507 >>10399007 11 What a weird book.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:51:43 No.10399609 >>10398923 Hmm, really? I'm enjoying the king killer chronicle. Would you recommend them then?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:55:16 No.10399623 Any recommendations on books that give you similar cozy feels as LOTR? I read the hobbit in jail and felt like I was eating stew by the hearth in the middle ages, it was awesome. Of course, any book in jail is awesome

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:58:38 No.10399628 >>10399157 Brandon Sanderson.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 10:59:01 No.10399630 >>10399623 The King of Elfland's Daughter by Lord Dunsany

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:01:05 No.10399637 >>10399623 The Face in the Frost. I've heard good things about Lud-in-the-Mist, and >>10399630 is also excellent.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:12:55 No.10399670 should I read the second apocalypse series? The lore and world seem interesting but all the characters seem like gaping assholes from what I've read. Its hard to motivate myself to read something without compelling characters.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:24:09 No.10399705

>>10397294
>its better in every way than A Game of Thrones.

Christ, do you actually believe this? I'm reading Garden's of the Moon at the moment and literally can't understand what people like about it. The prose is weak as fuck and the characters are completely one dimensional. The action sequences are quite good in it to be fair but and the plot isn't terrible but to say it's better in every way than ASOIAF is moronic.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:25:35 No.10399710 >>10399670 Akka is a good boy who did literally nothing wrong. It was the world that was wrong.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:25:40 No.10399711

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
Not the worst thing ever and fairly ok kids lit.

>The Hunger Games
Decent story but not particularly well executed in the novels. Personally I think the movies are better

>Stephen King novels
Actually have never read any

>John Green novels
Never read any

>Ready Player One
Haven't read but it seems dumb

>The Martian
Novel sucks ass maybe the movie is good.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:30:52 No.10399726 >>10399705 To be fair, you have to have a VERY high IQ to understand Gardens of the Moon.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:49:20 No.10399774

>>10399670
>>10399710

Depends on you. Personally I don't worry too much if I'd want to befriend characters in stories. They're good books imo.

They're not all gaping assholes though. They're flawed people who you can sympathise with.

As an aside I just finished The Unholy Consult last week. Not sure how I feel about this book.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:52:28 No.10399779 >>10399774 Reminder TGO and TUC are the same book. Fucking publisher jews. Was worth it though to see Kellhus get btfo and then Akka becomes Seswatha

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:02:00 No.10399803 >>10399779 I'm sure the guy will pull a Kira in the next series.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:06:27 No.10399817 >>10399803 He already pulled a Lot’s wife. Hard to get better from that. Also >implying overlook will publish the next book after all the bitching they did about TGOTUC

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:13:23 No.10399842 almost in the end of winters' heart where mat is going away will he find tylin again? i really ship these two

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:20:24 No.10399873

>>10399705
That's actually a high-yield experimental writing style, you just need to treat it like literature and take notes because even though everything is thrown at you out of order it's completely intentional, as evidenced by the author writing everything else in a conventional style and never hinting at experimentation again.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:23:00 No.10399883 >>10399873 SFF fans everybody >author doesn't tell you everything straight off the bat like it's a roleplaying game book >"this is a HIGHLY experimental and VERY LITERARY style of writing"

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 12:49:34 No.10399987
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Too Like the Lightning by Ada Palmer is the best book I've read in years, possibly ever. It made me feel a lot of things that I didn't know books could still make me feel.

Aside from Peter Watts' work, this is the only true science fiction novel I've found that's been published in the new millennium. There's a great irony in that it's written by a historian.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 13:01:36 No.10400031 >>10399275 Who is then? Asimov?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 13:01:58 No.10400032 >>10399883 retards everybody >person makes a sarcastic post >"oh WOW, how could ANYONE be this stupid?"

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 13:02:06 No.10400034
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>>10399987
Are you me? I've greatly enjoyed both Watt's and Palmer's work. I think they really do a fantastic of tackling the two sides of sci-fi, with Watt's more pessimistic, gritty hard explorations, contrasting with Palmer's beautifully written lighter tones and themes.

Press onto Seven Surrenders then grab The Will to Battle for Christmas, I don't think Ada will disappoint. Can't believe TLtL lost out on the Hugo to that stupid bird-witch story,
ffs

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 13:03:23 No.10400041 >>10400031 Asimov or Clarke. Maybe K Dick if you're going well known in just America.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:07:44 No.10400232

>>10400041
>Clarke
>K Dick
No way.

>Asimov
What is he most known for outside of sci-fi circles? His Robot Laws and I, Robot. However I'd argue that Stranger in a Strange Land is more known that I, Robot, and a whole generation know of Heinlein as that free sex dude that wrote a book that hippies liked. He's also popularized TANSTAAFL, which is more or less mentioned in every basic economics class. Also grok.

But honestly, it's just what I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:10:14 No.10400241 will ilose too much if i skip crossroads of twilight?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:11:12 No.10400247 >>10400031 asimov, isaac, dick, arguably orwell

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:12:13 No.10400253 >>10400232 clarke is no fucking doubt more famous than heinlein you are severely overrestimating his cloud

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:22:13 No.10400289

>>10400232
>He's also popularized TANSTAAFL, which is more or less mentioned in every basic economics class.
citation needed

The sad truth is the most popular scifi author is probably whoever writes those garbage Star Wars novels, or the cunt who writes episodes of Doctor Who.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:26:15 No.10400312

>>10400247
>Orwell
Yeah, that's a good point.

>>10400253
>you are severely overrestimating
That is certainly a possibility.

>>10400289
>citation
My ass and having friends who have studied economics and that know the phrase desu

Does anyone that's not a fanatic even read those Star Wars novels? And I thought Dr Who had a myriad of writers.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:42:32 No.10400369 File: 150 KB, 1000x749, s-l1000[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10399987 > Ada Palmer > Peter Watts Pfff

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:45:56 No.10400387 >>10399623 Redwall series

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:55:07 No.10400419 >>10400369 I haven't actually read any Greg, but I thought of trying Permutation City. As a fan of Peter Palmer would you recommend it?

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:56:06 No.10400422 File: 133 KB, 960x460, What a Great Man.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One of Clarke's lesser known quotes.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 14:57:04 No.10400427 File: 8 KB, 300x200, kill yourself you faggot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10400369 Is permutation city good? Thought about reading it but want to be sure. >>10400422 >tripfag

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:01:25 No.10400443 >>10400419 > As a fan of Peter Palmer would you recommend it? Yes. >>10400427 > Is permutation city good? Yes.

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>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:01:47 No.10400445 File: 32 KB, 260x325, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this or any other Android netrunner books?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:34:25 No.10400563 >>10400443 Alright I'm going to start it tonight if it's shit I'm blaming you.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:36:34 No.10400569
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>>10399987
I think aspiring writers are better off taking a history course, rather than literature. A writer gets a sense of human perspective and scope by a study of history, of different politics and cultures, and plenty of things to draw inspiration from. It lends itself very well to speculative writing - Roman and Byzantine history alone have fed into Foundation, Lest Darkness Fall, BOTNS. Gene Wolfe is on record saying that the Byzantines were the basis of Nessus, and he is a Grecophile anyway - ditto Robert Silverberg.

>>10400031
>>10400041
>>10400232
I have a hunch the most read SF writer, if not Heinlein (and discounting somebody like Suzanne Collins) could be somebody like HG Wells because he can be filed in the classics section, which brings him out of the SF ghetto and into the wider readership. I would hesitate to call Orwell a bonafide SF writer on the basis of one book.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:41:59 No.10400587 >>10400569 Depending on where in the world you're from, I'd say Heinlein, Dick, Clarke, Bradbury and Asimov might all turn up. There's also Frank Herbert.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:49:32 No.10400615

>>10400569
>I would hesitate to call Orwell a bonafide SF writer on the basis of one book.
That's a good point and the (arbitrary) contention was most-famous-scifi-writer, not most-famous-scifi-novel.

Now if the latter was the argument, I'd have to go with "1984" nowadays as everyone loves to reference it, with "Brave New World" being the runner-up. Two generations ago, "Dune" wins hands-down. Dunno what wins a generation ago.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 15:49:39 No.10400617

>>10400587
It's interesting to think about. Somebody like Andy Weir is obviously selling tens of millions of books, but only since the last few years. Michael Crichton will still probably be more widely read than Andy Weir. And with Asimov, Clarke and co, they retain an iconic stature that Weir and other flashes in the pan don't have - even if little Johnny is far more likely to get The Martian in his christmas stocking, culture is far more permeated in the speculative fiction of Asimov (three laws of robotics etc.) And people will recognise something as PKD-esque without reading him when it comes to androids.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:10:42 No.10400696 >>10400241 you'll lose out on a lot of mat and tuon development

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:16:02 No.10400716 >>10400615 1984 has always been pretty popular hasn't it? I can't see it being eclipsed by Dune, well, ever.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:17:26 No.10400721 >>10400041 I remember when nobody but hardcore SF fans knew who Dick was. This was only, like, ten years ago. What changed?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:19:41 No.10400736 >>10400721 Mandatory reading in college for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:19:41 No.10400737 >>10400721 I think most people still don't know who Dick is. At most they've heard his name, actually connecting it to one of his books is another thing. That said, the works themselves are definitely well-known.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:21:35 No.10400746 >>10400737 Sure, but nobody would have connected them to him. Everyone knows Blade Runner and Minority Report, but not who wrote the original works.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:22:54 No.10400750

>>10400721
He's gotten really popular recently. UK Channel 4 just finished a whole series of adaptations of his shorter work. I don't know about him being unknown 10 years ago, Blade Runner, Total Recall then Minority Report and Scanner Darkly were varying successes but all fairly well known. He's had more movie tie-ins than other classic authors.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:29:05 No.10400771

>>10400750
Hollywood for some reason really liked to mine his books for scripts, but the general public never really came to associate him with the movies until the most recent decade. His star has been rising somewhat thanks to the internet and people discovering just how wonderfully batshit insane his writing is.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:30:57 No.10400777 >>10400696 so ive heard there are chapters where nothing happens which chapters should i skip?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:32:52 No.10400792 >>10400777 Anon, don't fall for the plot development jew. Even though nothing necessarily happens in a couple, or a lot, of chapters, they're still worth reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:35:54 No.10400808 >>10400792 but the 4 page dress is a meme or its true? i dont want to endure so many pages of useless information also does rand even appear in the book?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:37:42 No.10400819 >>10400808 I don't remember >but the 4 page dress is a meme or its true? I'm sure. Just read it, homie. Drugding through it will make book 11 that much sweeter, anyway. At least don't skip the Mat chapters

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:39:09 No.10400827

>>10400771
>how wonderfully batshit insane his writing is
how batshit insane he is too

I've read a reasonable amount of his work, but just going off sheer nuttiness I think he might be my top classic author. I remember reading the Wikipedia page about his bizarre visions and shit behind the VALIS books and being completely confuzzled

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:40:39 No.10400835

>Friend,
>Your letter is most intriguing, even revelatory. I would have thought, before attaining my current station, that a deity could not be surprised. Obviously, that is not true. I can be surprised. I can perhaps even be naive, I think. I am the least equipped, of all, to aid you in this endeavor. I am finding that the powers I hold are in such conflict that the most simple of actions can be difficult. I am also made uncertain by your subterfuge. Why have you not made yourself known to me before this? How is it you can hide? Who are you truly, and how do you know so much about Adonalsium? If you would speak to me further, I request open honesty. Return to my lands, approach my servants, and I will see what I can do for your quest.

Is this from /ourguy/ Sazed?

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:48:49 No.10400887

>>10400716
Normies--and I mean mystery/etc genre readers--rocked "Dune" from the late Sixties through the Eighties. "1984" has that same popularity now, presumably because everyone sees Big Brother is real and enjoys pointing it out.

>>10400808
>>10400819
>does rand even appear in the book?
>I don't remember
Yes, this accords exactly with my recollections of Wheel of Time.

>>10400835
I thought this was shaping up as another great author response to a fan letter.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:51:32 No.10400901 >>10400887 >I thought this was shaping up as another great author response to a fan letter. We should write more fan letters to authors. Sort of like what /a/ does but our authors deserve it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:56:15 No.10400920 >>10399623 d-did you kill someone? or did you assault some female because you thought if you dicked her hard enough she would mindbreak?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:57:28 No.10400925 >>10400920 False dichotomy

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:59:09 No.10400930

>>10400887
I'm just making conversation here but why do you think Dune was so popular back in the 80s/90s? Other than maybe drug culture I can't think of anything as obvious as people's modern fear of technology and surveillance causing a resurgence of 1984.

Also
>Normies--mystery/etc genre reader
kek that's depressing true isn't it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 16:59:22 No.10400931 >I got a LOT of help from people for writing Shallan's getting drunk scenes. what did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:03:13 No.10400948 >>10400034 She got a nice rack. Still won't read her books though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:03:50 No.10400952 >>10400931 Means he’s a Mormon autist who barely knows what men do when they drink, let alone women.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:05:51 No.10400964 >>10400887 >another great author response to a fan letter Someone post the Rothfuss/GRRM answer.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:21:02 No.10401036 >>10399190 Damn it, fine I will. Yeah I listened to like an hour of it and dropped it like a month ago

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:31:21 No.10401099 File: 48 KB, 590x392, North-Korea-map-facts-Pyongyang-Kim-Jong-un-1027467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll send someone £1 over paypal if they read this short story I just wrote and tell me what they think

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:31:25 No.10401100

>>10401036
I wanted to drop it too. The hand on chest / finger in air shit rubbed me RAW. I never wanted to drop a book so hard, but the anon who rec'd it to me made me promise that I have to get past the start.

I gritted my teeth, and got to the part where he died. Shit was a non drop book after that. I had to force myself to read another book between book 1 and 2, because I wanted to get all in one go.

It's also GRI and cannibal approved, if you into that.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:32:04 No.10401103 File: 221 KB, 957x1200, b0e35a6dd7218c9571fa1c2dc409a669.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the best Dune edition?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:33:02 No.10401108 >>10401103 prolly that one, looks dank

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:36:26 No.10401131 File: 209 KB, 568x726, Year in Books.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What does yall look like?

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:37:48 No.10401136

>>10400930
It fit a weird niche between Michener-style crunchy historical fiction, Dick-style psychedelic New Wave, and classic pulp bildungsroman, so everyone that liked any of that recommended it to each other.
>tfw first-edition Dune was published by Chilton's

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:38:06 No.10401140 >>10401099 Join the anthology (>>10396196) m8, some idiot will read you diary sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:39:23 No.10401149 >>10401103 >tfw no hardcover omnibus of the 4 first books

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:43:06 No.10401165 >>10400737 >>10400721 blade runner is part of pop culture, his books keep being adapted into movies

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:43:47 No.10401169 File: 197 KB, 860x1316, 336039_bd16577ed1dc469fb9e2c8f4f28db1f6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401103 This one looks great but >£75.00

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:44:52 No.10401174 >>10401131 >2013 pages WEW

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:48:45 No.10401194
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>>10400930
I can only guess. Perhaps the desert imagery of other popular works in the decade ("Lawrence of Arabia") resounded with that generation, much like tiki/rattan/"South Pacific" did in the Fifties. The duration of the popularity seems to coincide with a generation; I myself remember watching the terrible TV movie as a kid.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:53:57 No.10401210 File: 26 KB, 251x346, 517c4N43veL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401103 First.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 17:58:11 No.10401230

>>10401169
Folio Society tends to do nice stuff, if a bit on the gaudy side sometimes for fiction stuff. I got their 3 volume edition of The Campaigns of Napoleon from a used bookstore ages back. $100 but it was worth it.

>>10401194
Dune hit a lot of things popular in the 60s-80s zeitgeist. You've got mysticism, feminism, the middle east, drugs, declining empires, environmentalism, power, etc.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 18:44:36 No.10401439
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>>10401103
>yet another Neil Gaiman endorsement
>stamped into the hardback of one of the most famous scifi works of all time
pic related
>>10401136
>Michener-style crunchy historical fiction
>>10401230
>Dune hit a lot of things popular in the 60s-80s zeitgeist.
Yeah, I can't offer anything better. That Michener bit rings true to me but I'm uncertain why exactly.

>>10400930
>>Normies--mystery/etc genre reader
>kek that's depressing true isn't it
Bear in mind that those folks on average probably outread the majority of this board, including me. I've always been partial to scifi and to a lesser degree fantasy but I wouldn't fall into the trap of believing that makes me superior somehow. Earlier folks just preferred different subject matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:00:14 No.10401513 >>10401439 >yet another Neil Gaiman endorsement Honestly tho, say what you want about Gaiman's writing but his taste in literature is top notch. I mean, BotNS is his favorite book :^)

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:04:32 No.10401535

>>10401513
>Honestly tho, say what you want about Gaiman's writing but his taste in literature is top notch. I mean, BotNS is his favorite book :^)
kek.
I wonder if he isn't just embarrassed by it now.
>no need to wonder if anything embarrasses GRRM

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:05:59 No.10401543

>>10400721
Gf mostly reads classical literature on and had to listen to a talk by a weird american professor sperging about blade runner. Scify is making it through the academic world I guess.

About dune, man I was hearing about that book since I get into fantasy like 15 years a go. I read it a few month ago. I call a dune revival.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:12:22 No.10401575 File: 40 KB, 329x500, 51DUQy4pZML.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >novel >edited by >editor's name as prominent as an author >none of the authors on the cover >there are six of them >"""""""""""""""""""""novel""""""""""""""""""""

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:14:17 No.10401584 >>10401535 Embarrassed of what, liking BotNS? >>10401575 >reading wildcards No need to kill yourself, that shit is bad enough.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:21:27 No.10401614

>>10401575
You know, as much as I want to kneejerk despise this sort of marketing, I found Vance through GURM because he listed him as a primary influence. I reckon the point is that this author-linking gimmick works.

>>10401584
>Embarrassed of what, liking BotNS?
Assuming you're not taking the piss, I believe there was an edition of BotNS endorsed by Gaiman which is what I assumed anon was referring to.
>his endorsement is slapped on everything, including classics
>"he has good taste"
...and that was the joke, in a nutshell.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:33:06 No.10401663

>>10401575
>that cover
Looks like a scene from Fevre Dream when the Vamp had to Pilot the boat in the day to escape.

>>10401131
If you haven't realized by now, no one really reads in this general, much less use goodreads to catalog their books. All the readers left years ago. What we have left are memers and people who reread the same book every year, and post their reviews in this general.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:35:12 No.10401672 Finished winter's heart. Near the end, rand is put in a box and min mentions that before he was rock, now he was iron, rand said it was still not enough Will this have consequences or he will continue to being a pussy?

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:40:49 No.10401696

>>10401614
>I believe there was an edition of BotNS endorsed by Gaiman
Yeah. I happen to own that edition lmao. Why would he be embarrassed? Gaiman is regularly praising Wolfe as one of the best writers ever and the last favorite list of his with BotNS at the top is not even a year old.

Now, I mostly read good books but the worst book with Neil Gaiman's name on it, as author or as an endorsement, I've read is probably one of GRRM's anthologies and that's hardly Gaiman's fault.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:43:02 No.10401705

>tfw Baudolino decides to make his father's bowl the Grasal
It was all sarcastic commentary on Italian violence and the nature of falsehood and created reality till now, why'd you have to do this to me?
I have it on good authority that this book becomes SFF at some point.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:43:06 No.10401707 >>10401099 how much is that in americans

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:44:21 No.10401713 File: 309 KB, 709x935, Literally doxxing myself.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401131 Here. >>10401663 >no one really reads in this general I wasn't going to post but fuck you. You seem to mistake this thread for outer /lit/.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:48:31 No.10401731

>>10401696
I would personally be embarrassed to have my name printed on an edition of a classic when I didn't write it or contribute in any meaningful way other that than (((they))) said it would sell more copies. I'm not saying Gaiman has to be embarrassed, just that it would rub me wrong if I were presented the same hypothetical scenario.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:50:38 No.10401743 >>10401672 You'll have to make it through multiple additional stages of increasing "hardness" after iron before it becomes relevant.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 19:55:31 No.10401764
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>>10401731
If you could somehow make thousands of people read a very good and underappreciated book, would you refrain from doing it because of embarrassment over some Powers-that-be™ meme from a Chinese erotica board? Because that's honestly quite a retarded standpoint.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:11:19 No.10401847 >>10401743 wait will rand get EVEN MORE fucked than he already is?

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:15:39 No.10401864

>>10401614
>>You know, as much as I want to kneejerk despise this sort of marketing, I found Vance through GURM because he listed him as a primary influence. I reckon the point is that this author-linking gimmick works.
It most certainly does. Author endorsements/plugs/recommendations are the main way I find new fantasy authors after personal recommendations from trusted people I know. The only other way I have of finding stuff is by randomly picking it off a shelf at a store, so an author recommendation or plug like this really counts for a lot in my books.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:18:24 No.10401873 >>10401847 And then Sandersons ignorance will fully ruin the atmospheric buildup of at least 5 books. You have much to look forward to!

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:18:33 No.10401875 >>10396927 Who doesn't crossboard?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:19:35 No.10401880 File: 40 KB, 414x506, disgruntled man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401875 >crossboarding to /v/ or /a/

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:20:30 No.10401884

>>10401875
Very few people. /lit/ is a slow board, which is a symptom of having few dedicated posters. I lurk /lit/ pretty frequently out of my short list of boards I visit regularly, but I seldom post in /sffg/ unless I see discussion pertinent to something I know/care about.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:22:41 No.10401895 >>10398665 My brother

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:29:14 No.10401920 >>10401884 I too do the same

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:29:15 No.10401921 >>10401873 i tought sanderson made a good job since he lessened the slog? or did he just fucked up the characters?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:35:04 No.10401952 what do we do with Moash? fucking race traitor

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 20:49:55 No.10402013

>>10401764
Having your name stamped on an edition is a different thing than...
>>10401864
recommending something through your blog or bio or what-have-you. If your argument against it is that I'm stupid, then I can simply shrug at this point.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:13:43 No.10402114 >>10398190 >read the Dresden Files until they got shit (4th book? 5th? Lol I heard that's when they start to get good. I only read the first one, thought it was crap Annihilation is good tho

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:17:25 No.10402124 >>10399705 The prose is shit tier. Too much head hopping.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:21:24 No.10402142 >>10399987 Sounds like a SJW cluster fuck. Is it? >The book starts with in-universe authorizations, disclaimers and trigger warnings.The narrator wants to explore the current conversation about gender issues.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:31:55 No.10402176 File: 299 KB, 1620x2467, OB_ENDNOTE_ebook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Slan was a nice read. In retrospect, the final twist was obvious.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:39:41 No.10402217 whats a good software to read and organize ebooks? preferably something that supports multiple common file formants. ive just been using sumatra pdf to read my ebooks but i find it a bit lacking in features.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:41:11 No.10402223 File: 255 KB, 622x731, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401131

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 21:47:35 No.10402250

>>10402013
>recommending something through your blog or bio or what-have-you
They do that too, but author blogs have a fraction of the visibility of a book cover. Plus many author blogs are covered in so much non-book related bullshit that it deters people from checking them after a while. I don't think I have to name any names for a good example.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 22:11:26 No.10402344 >>10402217 Calibre

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 22:28:53 No.10402419 >>10402344 can it actually be used to reed ebooks though? i was under the impression it only organized them. im currently looking at icecream. ill have a look into calibre too.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 22:44:30 No.10402473

>>10402142
Palmer is a lefty writing a story that is effectively "what if all our efforts towards social, gender, religious, etc, equality fail but we don't realize they've failed?"
https://www.goodreads.com/questions/745354-ummm-so-does-this-book-imply-approval-or

It's a good book, though the writing style is (intentionally) a bit different from the usual scifi/speculative fiction.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 22:55:35 No.10402518 >>10402473 Don't need a story to see that, just look at suicide rates.

>>	Amonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:03:09 No.10402544 >>10402473 The way progressives view gender never ceases to stupefy me. This doesn't seem entirely uninteresting though i guess, i like the religion angle.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:20:17 No.10402594 File: 578 KB, 500x773, Persepolis_Rising.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone else read this? Im just here to complain about it being a filler book

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:22:01 No.10402600 >>10402594 man i wonder how many books there will end up being

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:23:12 No.10402604

>>10401875
/tg/ here, I like reading and writing stores, /lit/ is in general garbage besides this general though.

>>10402114
It was 4, and jesus I could not give a rats ass about anyone. Like, it was about faeries, and I love dark fae lore, but it was just so meh.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:27:58 No.10402614

>>10398513
Yes, as would you. What sort of official seal were you expecting? Clean meaning bright optimistic, white everything 60's/70s sci fi with space travel and hope. Dirty meaning post 90s grim oil-covered cyberpunk future with the occasional author breakdown.
>>10398433 is just as correct. Naked psychic cavewomen in an alien zoo didn't need or get the sort of long descriptions that say, 50 shades of grey seems to have gotten.

>>10396863
>Harry Potter
Not read them, preferred Tolkien and CS Lewis. Seen some of the movies and read a lot of the internet chatter.
>The Hunger Games
Seen the first few movies, haven't read the books (it's on my to do list!) which are sure to be better.
>Stephen King novels
Loved Carrie. Read some others.
>John Green novels
never heard of him before now
>Ready Player One
I think I have that in paperback. I thought that it was a Cory Doctorow book. It was a sale day at the bookstore.
>The Martian
Not on my to read list, seems pedestrian.
Even given the chance, I'd read the Safehold series by Weber instead.

Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:30:33 No.10402620

>>10402419
AFAIK it's the best organizer.
>can it actually be used to reed ebooks though?
You really out to get an ereader for that... It does have a reader. Don't know all the formats it supports, but a quick test on mine got it reading EPUB, MOBI, and PDF. It converts all the important formats anyway.

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:37:12 No.10402631

>>10402419
What platform are you wanting to read on? Calibre is the best x86 (desktop) organization software that I've seen but it doesn't have a mobile reader. I have used Moon+ reader on Android in the past to good effect before buying a Kobo.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:37:12 No.10402632 LitRPG recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Dec 14, 2017 23:42:51 No.10402656 File: 33 KB, 288x475, Amuletofpower.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:03:34 No.10402744 >>10402656 Is it good?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:11:32 No.10402771 >>10402744 Just felt like posting the cover. I wrote a mini-review/summary of the series a while back if you care enough to search the archive (use the title).

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:13:39 No.10402779 Why are so many fantasy writers liberal? Is it because they live in a fantasy world and they can't tell whichever is real anymore?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:17:16 No.10402790

>>10402631
>>10402620
i went with icecream for my windows desktop and calibre for my arch notebook. on my phone i havent found anything iliked yet but i have yet to find a good way to share my home server with my phone. im thinking ill try nextcloud or maybe set up an ipfs for that. manually transfering files is getting annoying and i have yet to find a good reader for my phone. since its an amoled display(galaxy s5) black pixels and grey levels barely take any power so im trying to find a good reader to take advantage of that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:18:28 No.10402793 >>10402779 I hope you're pleased with yourself.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:22:27 No.10402807

>>10402632
vast majority seem really bad. from my personal experience you want pseudo-litrpgs.
things like the bathrobe knight, super sales on super heroes and dark profit saga.
try those and then look for similar stuff. pure litrpgs are usually infested with bad pop culture references and lelXDsorendumb nerd self insertions so you really want to avoid them.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:28:14 No.10402828 >>10402793 Got you to respond xD

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 00:43:48 No.10402874

>>10402142
The book is forward thinking. It says, "if we continue down the path we're on, what's going to be different in 4 centuries?" One of those things is the annihilation of gender - sort of (spoilers). People present the way they want and there's no male or female attached to any clothing or actions. The narrator uses pronouns in ways that trick you and play on your preconceptions, and it was pretty neat to me.

Other than that, several styles of government are showcased - corporate dictatorship, absolute monarchy, elective monarchy, anarchy, and parliamentary democracy, among others, and all are treated fairly.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:19:35 No.10403131 >>10402614 Clean and dirty already have accepted meanings when referring to fiction, nobody uses your definitions because you just made them up. They are basically nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:25:22 No.10403146 What does /lit/ think about Ian McDonald, River of Gods?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:29:26 No.10403158
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>>10396147
Guys, how can I get into sci-fi if
>I love sci-fantasy like SW/40K
>I deeply dislike how shallow early sci-fi is
>I'm not a fan of cyberpunk or dystopias
Is there any room for me? I liked the Expanse before it went off the deep end, but it didn't feel much like sci-fi.
Also I've already read Dune and a lot of other popular stuff that gets mentioned here. pls no gene

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:41:36 No.10403184 >>10403158 Orson Scott Card does some pretty great stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:45:22 No.10403194 >>10403184 I've read Ender's Game but I didn't like it that much... Just kind of goes into middle school core with the Star Wars EU.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:53:47 No.10403217 >>10403194 Ender's game is a series m8. A pretty good one too. You know where that meme a loli in a spaceship with infinite time comes from?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 02:56:49 No.10403226

>>10403217
I know it is but I wasn't tempted to go on after that first book. I've been bummed out too many times by reading until something gets good. And nope I don't... And I actually remember reading all the spoilers for the series once and I can't remember a damn thing which is not a good sign. You can shill me on this journey, anon. Anything else?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:03:56 No.10403245

>>10403226
Should you remember things from books you have read? I am remembering a bit from the series, its a very hard sci-fi. Reading spoilers happens over a short time so it doesn't crystalize in long term memory. 40k is probably your best bet for instant satisfaction, probably the horus heresy series because your constantly thrown into action, discussion, there isn't a dull moment in it. I had to stop in book two because of reasons.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:05:20 No.10403248 >>10403184 >>10403158 Both of you need to fuck off.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:09:41 No.10403259
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>>10403245
>40k and horus heresy
And I've been through most of that already. I do love HH but I was hoping there'd be something out there a bit more exploratory in nature without relying on a gimmick. Kind of like the recent Alien movies but good,
>>10403248
What's your problem?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:12:11 No.10403268 File: 25 KB, 432x432, punch man.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403259 You two faggots and your fanfic garbage. Fuck off

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:13:56 No.10403271 File: 87 KB, 960x960, 40K-prospero-tizca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403268 >horus heresy >fanfiction

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:16:16 No.10403276 >>10403271 >40k >anything other than fanfic for prepubescent morons You have to be 18

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:17:50 No.10403279
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>>10403276
You keep saying that word but I don't think you know what it means. What is it a fanfic of? Or are you randomly using fanfic as a derogatory term because you're retarded?
>You have to be 18
Like you?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:21:22 No.10403281 File: 326 KB, 500x375, perro caca.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403279 Perro caca

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:23:03 No.10403284 File: 56 KB, 1024x576, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403281 >You have to be 18 >Perro caca

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:24:26 No.10403289 File: 47 KB, 457x475, gato mear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403284

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:25:08 No.10403291 File: 66 KB, 600x456, img4a24ba2229269.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403289

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:25:27 No.10403293 >>10401952 Calling him as odiums champion

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:27:19 No.10403299 File: 214 KB, 400x399, fuck me sam fuck me.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403291 The fuck you post a picture of your mother for?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:33:51 No.10403311 File: 54 KB, 360x360, 1513316939002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403299 Truly next level bants.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:36:01 No.10403315 >>10403311 Go back to /swco/. Literally nobody wants you here.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:37:02 No.10403318

Just a reminder that English translation of Koji Suzuki's "S"/"Es" is coming out in 5 days.

Also, fuck it, here are my oh-so-important opinions on what I've read.

Ringu - pretty good conventional genre work (horror, based upon urban legend). Drags a bit towards the end, but sports a really good subversive ending. Didn't really need a sequel.

Rasen/Spiral - a sequel to the book that didn't really need a sequel. Pretty much a Borges-ization of Ringu, subverting every single thing that wasn't set in stone in the first book's text, and that reader took for granted. With the whole point being reader trying to guess what the whole point of the book even is. Not really a genre work, more of a desperate attempt to escape confines of the genre of the first book. Well, as the subsequent books of the author show, he has only escaped one genre in order to land right into another one. Rasen, though, is still pretty much unclassifiable, and I personally consider it Suzuki's best work. It really is an amazing book almost entirely throughout. The very ending though just isn't good. More like disappointingly stupid and clearly unintentionally ridiculous.

Loop - tries to be a horror (ends up a very boring one), but actually is a pretty conventional sci-fi book, built around a single twist. The twist is okay, the book, eh.

Promenade of the Gods - only read a half. ore down-to-Earth focus seemed interesting, but eh, by this time I've started to get tired of Suzuki.

Edge/Ejji. Pretty much a very developed Loop in the sense similar to how Rasen was a very developed Ringu. No direct ties though. Suzuki's attempt at Magnum Opus. Very formulaic, the whole book is built around its last chapter, where everything is more or less tied together. Well, the concept really is massive and amazing, but the pace of the entire book before the last chapter is pretty much a really boring crawl. Is also very speculative (sci-pop) in quite an annoying way. I mean, it's obvious that author thinks that he is saying something very profound about how reality is built or something, and muh research, and muh science, and muh bibliography at the end of the book, but, really, that's just... surface-level buzzwords, I guess. Anyway, even though the last chapter is really good, well, it's not really evident, what the central theme of the book is. Like, it looks, like a really big bunch of almost unrelated things is more or less superficially tied together. Like, the whole concept doesn't really look like a concept, and more like several concepts that are just cobbled together, and where it's not really possible to determine, just which one was supposed to be the more important one for author. Like, the whole thing just... rants. It doesn't have the sense of monolithic unity (at least, that of reader's experience) Rasen had. It feels constructed. That's my point.
-cont

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:39:29 No.10403324 File: 773 KB, 519x736, 1513160176365.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403315 I've been here for months. And there's plenty of people I don't want here either starting with your kind and especially Sandersonfags/Malazanfags.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:40:57 No.10403327 File: 25 KB, 576x432, data pissed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403324 WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? NIGGA YOU BETTER GIMME A SAUCE ON THIS SHIT OR AN EXPLANATION

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:43:35 No.10403329 >>10403327 It's pure love, anon.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:44:34 No.10403330
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Really old school stuff

High g world space marines
psychic lizards
undercover cop/suicide missions
the space axe
Other dimensional cold world aliens

Good guys and bad guys killing each other without mercy read this to see the father of space opera

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:45:49 No.10403333

>>10403318
Anyway, "S"/"Es" is a direct sequel to Rasen (which I consider to be factual, not intended, Suzuki's MO), which, from what I've heard, ignores meta-stuff from Loop. Also, there is this movie, Sadako3D, which has an almost universally abysmal reputation (I really liked it though, as a companion-piece to Rasen, in terms of how amazingly well it has managed to catch the atmosphere of Suzuki's books; it also has a very clear and concise point, which actually made a lot of sense to me; I didn't really like the sequel though). The relation of this movie to the book is unclear. At the very least, the book is told from the perspective of the boyfriend of the woman, from whose perspective the movie is told. As to how the book's and movie's scripts fit together, whether they fit together at all, I have no actual idea.
The only thing I expect from this book as of Rasen's sequel, is for it to be incredibly subversive, the more the better. Whether there will be any point to it, well, that'll remain to be seen.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:48:49 No.10403341 >>10403330 Looks good.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 03:56:34 No.10403347

>>10401921
He lessened the slog at the cost of fucking up the time lines and feeling. Major spoiler warning: Rands epiphany and full return to the light on top of Dragonmount happened way to early compared to the finals of some other plotlines that were supposed to contribute to the feeling of darkness and despair. But since Rand had already turned super messiah the struggles of others lost their weight, we basically knew that the next big turning point would be Rand at Shayol Ghul.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 04:38:43 No.10403412 File: 61 KB, 834x425, 1513330723999.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] didn't expect this. chuckled quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:07:02 No.10403554 File: 120 KB, 325x274, DEAUGH.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403412 >references to pop-culture in books Always makes me miffed.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:25:15 No.10403589 >>10403347 but it was already planned by jordan

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:25:33 No.10403590 >>10403158 >pls no gene >smug_wolfe.jpg

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:30:08 No.10403599

>>10402594
Almost finished. Was a little surprised by the 30 year timeskip before the start of this book. It might be going a little stale after so many books, but I'm still reading it, as I'm still interested in wherever humanity ends up. And I like the TV series.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:33:41 No.10403606

>>10403589
There's a good blog post somewhere about how Sanderson basically had a hard time grasping Jordans "complex" timeline during the quite tight release schedule he, Harriet and Tor had agreed on. Basically, the last books are very little Jordan.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:41:54 No.10403621 >>10403606 did the epiphany come from jordan or was sanderson creation?

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:45:20 No.10403627

it could be worse. it could have been a reference to reddit or a specific lets player or even twitch streamers
from what i gather from normies is that they by and large still not even know 4chan besides the memes that sprang for it and at best know reddit or specific ecelebs.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:46:22 No.10403631 >>10403627 meant to quote >>10403554

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:46:39 No.10403633
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>>10403347
>>10401873
Sanderson was working from Jordan's notes you fucker. What ever happened was what Jordan wrote down, and what his wife okayed. His wife was his editor from day one, she would know more than you what Jordan was doing.

When Blood song and unhewn throne series ended as shit did you blame someone else or the author? Sanderdon was not the author. Jordan was. Sanderson just worked as an editor. What ever happened Jordan's wife made happen.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:55:39 No.10403643

>>10403621
I'm not sure but from what I've read it came from RJ. It's only that it came to early, because of Sandersons increase in pace. As Jordan would have written the last books everything slowly going to hell would have continued for a longer while up until the turning point, Rands epiphany, where most characters would have resolved their problems and headed out to fight in the Last Battle.

>>10403633
I'm blaming Harriet, Brandon and Tor for setting a schedule they could not possibly keep. And I'm not blaming them for any major plot points, I'm sure they were faithful to RJs notes, but for the pacing and structuring of mainly the last books.

I also hate Sandersons prose but that's like just my opinion man so I don't complain about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 06:59:04 No.10403650 >>10402790 >o find a good reader for my phone. I use the Coolreader app for my ebooks on Android, but it's out of development. Perfect viewer for pdfs.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:00:43 No.10403655 >>10403643 >last books Last two books*, from what I remember my only problem with TGS was the difference between Jordan and Sandersons writing.

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:02:53 No.10403660
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>>10402614
>Clean meaning bright optimistic, white everything 60's/70s sci fi with space travel and hope. Dirty meaning post 90s grim oil-covered cyberpunk future with the occasional author breakdown.
List all the numbers that correspond

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:07:14 No.10403670 File: 345 KB, 1600x1067, 1471968300267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403146 Ask them >>>/lit/ . This is sffg.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:10:44 No.10403680 >>10402614 >60's/70s sci fi with space travel and hope >he doesn't even know what New Wave was

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:14:46 No.10403696 >>10403694 >>10403694 >>10403694 >>10403694 new thread full of new ideas

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:15:03 No.10403699 >>10403158 >>10403194 >>10403259 Treason by Scott Card Undying Mercenaries by Bv Larson Shadow of the scorpion by Neal Asher Enjoy

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:17:46 No.10403704 File: 38 KB, 408x510, Not reading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403318 >>10403333

Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:22:05 No.10403718

>>10400964
Hello.

Your vehement admiration is by no doubt unique. I thoroughly enjoy you going through the effort of reaching out to me, albeit I am completely clueless as what you ever hoped to achieve with that.
Did you imagine me thanking you for your support? Did you imagine me giving you some half-assed words of encouragement?
I am in the process of writing the next book in the series, did you think you would encourage me in some way? The only thing you have accomplished is wasting my time by responding to you when I could be writing the book. Are you happy with that? Does your ego feel fulfilled now that an author has finally replied to you, no doubt you've reached out to many authors, we know your kind. You have delayed my book, but I have no doubt you feel very good with yourself indeed, because you have received a response.

With the upmost love and respect -

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:26:25 No.10403733 >>10403696 The thread is not finished you fucking newfag.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:30:32 No.10403743 File: 121 KB, 1242x1533, Hw973TE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10403699 I'll try to look into them, anon, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:32:18 No.10403745 File: 128 KB, 710x939, Got to hide my first name.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10401131 >Average length 726p Guess what I've been reading, girls.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:37:34 No.10403757 >>10403718 what is this

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:42:11 No.10403773 >>10403757 A literary masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:43:25 No.10403777 >>10403773 I can see that. But what's the context?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:45:20 No.10403782 >>10403777 Unknown. It's supposedly a fan response from [well known fantasy author].

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 07:46:22 No.10403784 >>10403777 Also, nice digits.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 08:18:42 No.10403848 File: 483 KB, 1616x2475, OB_MAP-OATHGATES_ebook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Seekers can sense Surgebinders >each Surge has a different pulse Not surprising

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 10:21:53 No.10404193 >>10403704 Ringu+Rasen is pretty legitimately a really good read, though. Well, primarily because of Rasen.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 11:06:40 No.10404341 >>10403660 4, 7, maybe 10. Clean- The movie version of 2010. Dirty- Warhammer 40k. Anyone ever read the Thieves' World series? Or something more scifi- I finished reading The Silver Eggheads by Fritz Leiber. Thought it had some neat ideas.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Dec 15, 2017 14:49:55 No.10405309 >>10402594 >>10402600 >>10403599 anybody can hook me up with a download amazon isn't selling in my country

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