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10382593 No.10382593 [Reply] [Original]

I've heard that "I am a strange loop" is a better, cleaner approach to what Hofstadter was getting at in GEB. Is this true? Which of his books are the best on the subject?

>> No.10382679

>>10382593

It's cleaner but much less fun. Stick with GBE

>> No.10382682

>stem lords trying to write philosophy
one of the most embarrassing books I have ever read

>> No.10382702

>>10382593
only read GEB, It's a touhg read but if you haven't had your brain melted and aren't hooked by the end of The Crab cannon around p200 then you haven't understood it

>> No.10382751

>>10382702
ive read most of it, ditched his attempts at explaining incompletness in favor of Nagel&Newman's "Gödels Proof" as recommended in the introduction.
Wanted a cleaner reference without the entry-level introductions to formal languages etc. The Bach and Escher stuff is certainly fascinating, I just didn't like how it diverted into large pseudo-technical sections, felt like a distraction to someone familiar with some of the maths/computer science already.