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/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:48:51 2017 No.10358169 [Reply] [Original]

What are you reading?
Which books are you patiently waiting to be released in December?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:51:06 2017 No.10358175 First for webnovels are novels too

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:52:33 2017 No.10358178 do u guys kno any novels that are like dark souls I like patrick rothfuss and george r r martin if it helps

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:53:23 2017 No.10358183 Did you mean /SfFg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:53:44 2017 No.10358184 File: 285 KB, 610x775, 1512273929493.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10358169 Thinking about writing a Alternate Timeline, Alternate History, Fantasy novel. Sounds good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:00:33 2017 No.10358204 >>10358178 roadside picnic is the only dark souls of novels.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:08:10 2017 No.10358225
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Some time ago i picked up a copy of Battlefield Earth and i've been enjoying it but my mom thinks i'm weird because it was written by a Scientologist. Am i autistic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:09:51 2017 No.10358230 >>10358225 It's a terrible book but I've never met your mam so who knows

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:12:18 2017 No.10358239
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Excerpt from The Jewel Of Bas, a golden age planetary romance by Leigh Brackett, Two wandering thieves, who are also lovers, are enjoying a meal on the Martian plains when they are interrupted.

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Ciaran dragged down an unsteady breath. He was sweating, but where his hands and Mouse's touched, locked together, they were cold as death.

"What was it, Kiri?"

"I don't know." He got up, slinging the harp across his back without thinking about it. He felt naked suddenly, up there on the high ridge. Stripped and unsafe. He pulled Mouse to her feet. Neither of them spoke again. Their eyes had a queer stunned look.

This time it was Ciaran that stopped, with the stewpot in his hands, looking at something behind Mouse. He dropped it and jumped in front of her, pulling the wicked knife he carried from his girdle. The last thing he heard was her wild scream.

But he had time enough to see. To see the creatures climbing up over the crest of the ridge beside them, fast and silent and grinning, to ring them in with wands tipped at the point with opals like tiny sunballs.

They were no taller than Mouse, but thick and muscular, built like men. Gray animal fur grew on them like the body-hair of a hairy man, lengthening into a coarse mane over the skull. Where the skin showed it was gray and wrinkled and tough.

Their faces were flat, with black animal nose-buttons. They had sharp teeth, gray with a bright, healthy grayness. Their eyes were blood-pink, without whites or visible pupils.

The eyes were the worst.

Ciaran yelled and slashed out with his knife. One of the gray brutes danced in on lithe, quick feet and touched him on the neck with its jeweled wand.

Fire exploded in Ciaran's head, and then there was darkness, pierced by Mouse's scream. As he slid down into it he thought:

"They're Kalds. The beasts of legend that served Bas the Immortal and his androids. Kalds, that guarded the Forbidden Plains from man!"

Ciaran came to, on his feet and walking. From the way he felt, he'd been walking a long time, but his memory was vague and confused. He had been relieved of his knife, but his harp was still with him.

Mouse walked beside him. Her black hair hung over her face and her eyes looked out from behind it, sullen and defiant.

The gray beasts walked in a rough circle around them, holding their wands ready. From the way they grinned, Ciaran had an idea they hoped they'd have an excuse for using them.

With a definitely uneasy shock, Ciaran realized that they were far out in the barren waste of the Forbidden Plains.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:33:55 2017 No.10358295 >>10358239 Looks pulpy as fuck. Adding to my reading list.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:57:42 2017 No.10358351

It's been so long since I've enjoyed anything.
I don't know how you guys keep doing it.
I finally gave in and attempted to read Sanderson last week and I remembered why I started to hate storytelling in the first place: everything feels so cookie-cutter and fake--even the dialogue is completely unbelievable. And I think that goes for most of the stuff on here, from Wolfe to Erikson and Bakker. Sure, a few of these authors have things that make them stand out, but their worldbuilding remains entirely unbelievable and their characters are utter abominations. Their reactions to events, their interactions with one another, their thinking patterns, everything is just so bad. I almost can't understand it. It's as if robots wrote these novels. People that have never interacted with another human being and have never had thoughts of their own.
And, to make it clear, I'm not whining about a lack of realism. I'm not saying that these books aren't deep enough, or gritty enough, or whatever. I'm just saying it's impossible to get into them when everything that happens is a stab to the brain that reminds you you're reading a work of fiction. It shouldn't have t be that way.
At this point I don't even know what to read anymore. I can still enjoy Tolkien and other older authors because they never even attempted to make their characters behave and speak normally. But all these newer, third-person-limited books are unreadable cancer. I'm sure my dog has a better understanding of human nature than Sanderson does.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:04:28 2017 No.10358371 >>10358351 Read Vurt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:09:05 2017 No.10358389 >>10358351 Just read older authors then. That's a perfectly valid choice given the amount of material available.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:10:46 2017 No.10358395 Anyone would want to read my fanfic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:10:53 2017 No.10358397 >>10357199 Doesn't the book come with a glossary explaining all those?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:12:32 2017 No.10358402 just read dumai wells and jesus christ the audiobook is amazing, compared to reading the narrator in the audiobook has a pretty good voice and entonation, shame he voices the females as well

>>	Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Tue Dec 5 11:17:38 2017 No.10358416 >>10358239 What's your opinion of Brackett's work so far?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:18:47 2017 No.10358420 >>10358351 Read Knut Hamsun.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:21:10 2017 No.10358427

>>10358295
Brackett is very pulpy, she is what happens when a tomboy grows up reading Edgar Rice Burroughs, Robert Howard and Dashiell Hamett.

I read that Gene Wolfe's trick is to put something interesting on each page. In this brief excerpt alone there are the forbidden plains, , beasts servitors, android overseers, and a legendary immortal overlord. A dynamic writer but more taut than Howard and Burroughs.

Brandon Sanderson talks a lot about establishing 'promises' to the reader earlier on and then fulfilling them, in his writing classes. Look at what Brackett is promising here: romance, action and adventure. She was working in a competitive writing market and had to grab discerning editors as well as the wider reader.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:26:14 2017 No.10358439

>>10358416
She's top tier pulp adventure fiction. I had already read some of her longer books like The Sword Of Rhiannon (a great introduction) as well as a handful of other Martian stories and the first Skaith book (not as good as the early stuff.) I think she takes elements of her influences and improves them, she is far more enjoyable than Burroughs and Robert Howard. There is still the bulk of her Martian and Venus stuff for me to read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:37:13 2017 No.10358463 In what order should I read Tolkien? I've seen people say you should read The Silmarillion LAST, is that true?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:40:56 2017 No.10358473 >>10358463 Children of Hurin is his best story

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Tue Dec 5 11:42:51 2017 No.10358479

>>10358427
>>10358439
The scene reminded me of Burroughs but I like his 'aww shucks' character perspective better--too many Westerns as a kid, I expect. Come to think of it, that might be the market he was enticing from.

Are you writing, CASbro? I can't help but notice a tendency to analyze constituent elements in your excerpt commentary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:45:25 2017 No.10358489 >>10358463 hobbit, lotr, silmarillion

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:01:18 2017 No.10358538 >>10358351 You sound pretty pretentious my dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:52 2017 No.10358557 >>10358351 Read Tolkien.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:09:20 2017 No.10358572 >>10358489 Great. I'm probably too much of a brainlet to start with the Silmarillion but I understand The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings are easier to get into. >>10358473 I intend to read this too. Where exactly does it fit?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:09:31 2017 No.10358573

The Goodreads community have thrown a vote to decide what this years best Fantasy book is. Proving once again the age old knowledge that if you bring enough people together you end up with a bunch of retards they selected a movie script (that did not even make a good movie) as the best book. Amazing.

https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-fantasy-books-2017

Now, are there any actually readworthy books among the nominees? No need to mention Oathbringer as everyone already know about that one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:11:51 2017 No.10358582 File: 94 KB, 651x372, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10358573 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:14:55 2017 No.10358597 File: 38 KB, 316x475, 35073163.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10358573 PANCAKES

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:15:10 2017 No.10358600 >>10358582 >ada palmer only got 689 votes lol

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:20:02 2017 No.10358623

>>10358463
No. I'm a person that went into Tolkien having seen the Lord of the Rings, and let me tell you, everything other than the Silmarillion was a shitshow. I guess the Hobbit is fun, but the way the Lord of the Rings is told doesn't fit Tolkien's style at all. The Silmarillion does. Maybe this is because I watched the movies first, but I just can't stand LotR as a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:21:34 2017 No.10358630 >>10358420 >>10358371 You could add some more information. >>10358389 Yeah, but they don't give me what I want. >>10358538 >pretentious >while posting on /sffg/ Yeah, I'm absolutely patrician, my man.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:44:34 2017 No.10358728

>>10358479
No, right now I haven't the creative impulse or staying power for writing, so I'm not actively doing that. But I do like to take notice of what writers are doing and it's possible that I'll work on a pulp fantasy short story collection or novella in the future - novel length writing sounds like hell, and science fiction wouldn't be my strong suit. I would give a right nut to have Clark Ashton's poetics and vocabulary, Lovecraft's narrative thrust, C.L. Moore's sensuousness, Howard and Leiber's exuberance. Maybe if their fiction percolates in me a little longer, then I could have a go.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:49:30 2017 No.10358751

>>10358630
>Yeah, but they don't give me what I want.
Have you perhaps considered that characters "behaving and speaking normally" (in your conception of it) is what makes newer books cancerous in the first place? This is said in all seriousness, for 'tis the reason I dislike much of what is currently popular.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:50:59 2017 No.10358755 >>10358597 Let me know when he finishes the series.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:52:37 2017 No.10358763

What're some good epic fantasy series of about 3-5 books in length? Enough to lose myself in the world for a while but not fuckhuge.

I've read LOTR and most of ASOIAF.

The most important element to me is characters I can give a shit about, followed by a decent plot. Political intrigue is cool too but not vital.

Not in the mood for sci-fantasy like Dune.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:56:17 2017 No.10358771 File: 47 KB, 288x475, Fortress_in_the_Eye_of_Time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10358763 :3

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:56:56 2017 No.10358773 >>10358763 People are going to recommend you shit, but imo, just don't bother. Nothing compares to LotR and ASoIaF. You're better off watching actual anime than reading Sanderson.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:04:58 2017 No.10358810 >>10358755 supposedly its going to be 5 books in total. book 2 was released 3 days ago but im waiting for the audiobook which should take about a month or so if the previous is anything to go by.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:06:07 2017 No.10358819 >>10358773 Yeah, why bother reading, it's all terrible. Slip now into the wombish depths of darkness' all accepting embrace.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:06:30 2017 No.10358820 >>10358623 >the way something written by Tolkien is told doesn't fit Tolkien's style at all. Walk me through your thought process, please.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:13:08 2017 No.10358849
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>>10358751
Not at all. I dig the idea of putting aside some of the trappings of traditional fantasy, but I don't see why that would produce such utter nonsense. Settings where people are supposedly part of a strict hierarchy, but they all joke with one another and talk as if they're high school pals, and the story acknowledges no unwritten rules of those societies. Meanwhile the only limits the characters have are always grounded in rational, solvable obstacles rather than insecurities, phobias, or any kind of spiraling anxiety. I'm not even saying we should focus on existential dread or anything like that, just that not everything can be so cut and dry and mechanistic.

But that's exactly how they think about it. I remember hearing from Sanderson either in one of his classes or that podcast he's on that "characters should always be consistent" because "fiction isn't real life, and readers will think you're pulling a fast one on them if a character does something unexpected." Basically, characters have certain traits that are immovable, and everything is on rails from that point on.

Ironically some of the best stuff I've read recently comes from the Horus Heresy series. The lore for that was written with so little in mind initially, that a lot of the actions the characters take seem... retarded. And that's great. The authors actually have to think about how these people could have all those godlike traits but also commit some of the dumbest, most tragic acts. And despite it being edgy bullshit, the interactions between the characters are a thousand times more lifelike than you'd find in most popular fantasy, in which the motivations of the characters are laid out straight and leave no room for debate.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:15:14 2017 No.10358857

>>10358773
I actually agree wtf. Its totally crazy how there are two completely satisfying fantasy novel series that give you *that* feel and those are LOTR and Asoiaf. I can't count how many times since the early 00s I've been recommended likes of Sanderson and whatever else and it simply doesn't do it, it doesn't have a soul or characters and the world you give a damn about. Fantasy is extremely sensitive to world building, characters, relationships between them and how their world reflects on them. Most other fantasies remind me of classical RPG wannabees, d&d influenced fan autism and cliches that make me drop it relatively fast. Sci-fi on the other hand is much more 'serious' genre, it has hidden gems and well known near masterpieces in abundance. Last month I've read Hyperion, completely mindblown

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:16:37 2017 No.10358866

What are some science fiction and fantasy awards that are worth following through to the current day? I think it would be cool to pick an award and read the winner from every year.

>>10358849
The Magicians trilogy is actually about young adults going to wizard college, graduating, and being like, "fuck... now what?" and struggling with the fact that life can still dick you over even if Hogwarts and Narnia are real, and you still have to find yourself and figure out what you want, or being able to magically manifest it means nothing. I loved it. Your mileage may vary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:25:09 2017 No.10358893 >>10358857 Absolutely. Malazan was quite literally a D&D setting at the start if I'm not mistaken. Point is, it's all garbage. And the other okay fantasy stuff is just sci-fi in disguise, like New Sun and PoN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:25:17 2017 No.10358895 >>10358572 Children of Hurin should probably be read just before or just after the Silmarillion. In the latter case, just skip the Turin chapter in the Silm, since CoH is the same thing but more developed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:33:45 2017 No.10358929 >>10358893 I semi-enjoy urban fantasy, as some guilty pleasure. Especially if romances and pairings appeal to me. Not the great literary kind, but not bad either. The Mortal Instruments and Magicians aren't so bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:35:48 2017 No.10358939 >>10358929 To be fair, The Magicians is like a less-trippy PKD story in that it's really what you get if literary fiction has a baby with pulp adventure stories, and that's part of why its audience seems to consist only of people who like both.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:36:53 2017 No.10358946 >>10358929 I could never get into urban fantasy. Even at its finest like the oWoD stuff, I couldn't help but feel it's been written for punk chicks. There's just something off-putting about most of it. Maybe I've not read enough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:39:14 2017 No.10358954 File: 457 KB, 288x414, Smithing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there any fantasy slice of life? Like stories about a guy becoming a master at smithing, or dwarves going mining deep in the mountains. Not some monster hunting shit either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:43:37 2017 No.10358974 >rand stills 3 aes sedai when he breaks free from the shield Please tell me aes sedai will continue to suffer, they really deserve.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:46:32 2017 No.10358981 >>10358946 >oWoD what? kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:56:09 2017 No.10359017 File: 34 KB, 1046x447, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So, after reading and loving Vurt I decided to just read all the books that have ever won the Arthur C. Clarke Award.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:00:02 2017 No.10359039 >>10358600 once the quartet is complete, the true praise shall begin

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:09:53 2017 No.10359089 >>10358582 Anyone actually read Artemis?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:12:11 2017 No.10359092 >>10359017 I like Quicksilver, but would only recommend it if you are already familiar with Stephenson's style. Handmaid's Tale was boring and preachy. Looks like I need to read more books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:13:44 2017 No.10359095 >>10359092 >if you are already familiar with Stephenson's style I've read Snow Crash. Is that enough? >Handmaid's Tale was boring and preachy. I'll start it and if I lose interest just switch to the TV show and see if I enjoy that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:13:46 2017 No.10359096 >>10358974 >Please tell me aes sedai will continue to suffer Yes Its funny how the "evil" slaver nation comes out as 100% in the right for how they leash Aes Sedai. Women fuck everything up

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:21:47 2017 No.10359128 >>10358981 Old World of Darkness?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:23:30 2017 No.10359136

>>10359095
>I've read Snow Crash. Is that enough?
Not really. Snow Crash is pretty accessible and short. The only reason I brought up his style is because of the large time commitment for Quicksilver's series.
>Handmaid's Tale
I think you'd get more out of reading about the Iranian revolution honestly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:28:15 2017 No.10359156 >>10359136 To be fair, those holding certain political views seem to find it prophetic. My bias may color any assessment.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:45:37 2017 No.10359203

>>10358169
>What are you reading?
Read behind the throne which was suprisingly fun. What was fairly interesting was that it was pretty much a courtly intrigue fantasy novel but with starships in the background.
Interested to see if the rest of the trilogy follow this or branch out.

Also started reading Seventh Decimate which isn't as gripping. The problem is that Donaldson sets up three big reveals (where is the mysterious book, what does it do, why didn't the protagonist die in the prologue) and then spends all of the book I've read so far slowly walking toward them.
Also there's a twist on the horizon that's so obvious it's gonna annoy me when it happens.
Gonna power through to see if it all pays off or if it's just a tease.

Also occasionally reading Worm which is suprisingly alright

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:51:56 2017 No.10359214 Give me the most degenerate books you read so I can put together a gri chart.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:54:04 2017 No.10359218

>>10358573
The Scwab is good, th Hobb is good, Jemisin is great, Mark Lawrence is drastically better than his first two trilogies, the Tad Williams is excellent and McClellan and Michael J. Sullivan are fun if not great.

As for scifi waking gods, binti, Provenance, Seven Surrenders and Punch Escrow are good.
All Our Wrong Todays, the Expanse book and the Ninefox sequel are fun enough.
I like Marko Kloos a lot but I'm not up to that book yet
Really the only thing on there that isn't good is the Scalzi, it's a weak effort from him and other stuff that came out this year is much more interesting and fun (I'm surprised Luna: Wolf Moon didn't make it)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:55:36 2017 No.10359223 >>10358763 Coldfire Trilogy Memory, Sorrow and Thorn is good for this and only a few books but they're all tomes and glacially paced

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:23:03 2017 No.10359289 File: 2.17 MB, 3000x3000, DeGenerate Approved.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359214 What I have so far.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:27:43 2017 No.10359300

>>10359289
not gonna lie the underlying premise of good intentions was actually quite interesting. if you remove all the degeneracy and focus on the premise of the MC going through horrible deaths in his previous lives all because some angel wanted to make him a hero.
it could have been good. they could have even left the sex scenes in just not make it full blown erotica.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:40:01 2017 No.10359341 What anime is this >>10357860 webm guys? I'm being told Macross Frontier and Kyoukai no Rinne 2, when I search the stills.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:43:26 2017 No.10359359 >>10358184 I'd genuinely read an epic fantasy series set in the world of Pokémon like 500 years in the past.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:46:11 2017 No.10359372 File: 63 KB, 550x602, codexalera.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359359 >I'd genuinely read an epic fantasy series set in the world of Pokémon like 500 years in the past. Oh you mean pic related?

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Tue Dec 5 15:54:35 2017 No.10359399
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>>10358728
>C.L. Moore's sensuousness
Hmm. Your taste in waifu is unassailable.
>pulp fantasy short story collection
I think you're onto something there. A good Dying Earth-ish semi-connected collection of stories might go over pretty well.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:01:50 2017 No.10359424

>>10359095
Handmaid's Tale is not that long and good enough. While not revolutionary by any means it's a nice and believable description of ordinary life in an authoritarian theocracy.

>>10359136
>reading about the Iranian revolution
You have any recommendations? Because that sound like an interesting subject.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:03:40 2017 No.10359429 >>10359341 It's the first one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:05:13 2017 No.10359438 >>10359341 pretty sure it's boku no pico

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:07:19 2017 No.10359446 How Anime is Malazan? Not that I dislike some Anime in my books btw, just asking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:09:54 2017 No.10359457 File: 23 KB, 450x338, bUNXwFD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359438

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:13:19 2017 No.10359468
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>Investiture on First of the Sun is associated with a Shard?
Yes, it is. That one is even closer associated with a Shard, the actual Investiture of the magic. Remember when I say Investiture, I mean matter, energy and magic. Sometimes the word Investiture just to the magic such as the Aviar and in that it is directly associated with one of the Shards
>Which one?
Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium
>*Stunned silence*
>Sorry, can you say that again?
Patji is a Shard of Adonalsium
>Is that one of the Aviar?
No that is the island
>Island or islands?
The island but Patji is one of the islands.
>It's a Shard?!
Yes, big asterisk! But yes.
>Shard as in equal or Shard as in a mass of Investiture?
As in one of the 16 Shards of Adonalsium is represented and involved in First of the Sun. In fact, one of the letters references First of the Sun in this *Indicates to Oathbringer". Sorry, I probably killed some theories on that one.

that fucking feelio dealio when no new Sixth of the Dusk novellas any time soon

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:15:40 2017 No.10359478 Which one of George RRRR Martin's short stories is the one about bloodraven again?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:18:10 2017 No.10359486 File: 858 KB, 600x1125, 1510196575294.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359468 I wish it were 2047 when the cosmere is finished

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:27:46 2017 No.10359524 >>10358225 Remind her that top gun was made by a scientologist. Then blast dangerzone while violently hip thrusting her skull.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:37:56 2017 No.10359568 File: 20 KB, 298x326, 1502488342272.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished Gardens of the Moon. Little bit of a slog in the beginning, but got good towards the end. We Deadhouse now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:46:02 2017 No.10359602 >>10358893 >PoN What's that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:46:26 2017 No.10359605 >>10359468 Weird, I thought First of the Sun's shtick was that it had no shards but still had a perpendicularity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:51:14 2017 No.10359631 File: 4 KB, 642x148, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >see this thread >start reading Neuromancer, worried it won't live up to the hype >literally 15 pages in and it's already oozing style like no other book I've read

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:55:00 2017 No.10359647 File: 465 KB, 806x1200, Ishi.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359486 >that feel when >>10359605 Yeah but I reckon there is more going on now. Strange that he has taken so long to talk about it. Ah well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:56:07 2017 No.10359652 >>10359647 Probably thought that people would figure it out anyway with Oathbringer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:57:05 2017 No.10359658 >>10359568 Have fun anon. I wish you the best of luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:57:48 2017 No.10359662 So, how does the Cosmere compare/contrast with Moorcock's Eternal Champion multiverse?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 16:58:43 2017 No.10359667

>>10359424
>You have any recommendations? Because that sound like an interesting subject.
Not particularly good ones, no. There is a somewhat controversial film called Not Without My Daughter that covers some of the same ground, though it occurs a few years after the revolution. It purports to describe the experiences of an American woman married to an Iranian doctor. A visit to her Iranian relatives turns dire when her husband slowly reverts to their cultural norms and refuses to let her leave.
It upset a lot of people, but I found it emotionally powerful. I often thought back to it while reading Handmaid's Tale.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:08:33 2017 No.10359719 File: 188 KB, 1280x546, alex boye.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10358849 >Wolfe is an abomination >Horus Heresy is rly good tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:11:01 2017 No.10359730 >>10359289 Needs The Man Who Folded Himself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:12:02 2017 No.10359737 >>10359429 Yeah, from the movie though.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:14:16 2017 No.10359748

>>10359662
So far it doesn't seem to be a washed-up author's attempt to tie in all the books he wrote for drug money when he was younger into a cohesive universe because Alan Moore stole all his thunder and multiverses seem to be what the kids are into these days.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:16:11 2017 No.10359760

>>10358094
>ditch human species
Tangentially that's one of the fun parts of Zelazny's Night in the Lonesome October; you never forget your protagonist is a dog. The way he makes friends, the way he's rock-bottom fixated on protecting his master, the way he has a problem climbing down stairs. That's a non-human protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:31:09 2017 No.10359843 >>10358857 >>10358773 >>10358763 read titus groan and book of the new sun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:41:13 2017 No.10359899 >>10359667 Thanks dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 17:51:34 2017 No.10359932 >>10359568 I just finished it too. I enjoyed it all the way through honestly. Not seeing why people had trouble getting through it. I hope that means that Deadhouse will blow my mind.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:05:05 2017 No.10359993
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>>10358169
Hey guys, can anyone recommend me some quality Christmas fiction? Anything is fine but preferably something comfy that evokes the holiday feeling.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:07:52 2017 No.10360004

>>10359748
Har har. I mean internally, not in terms of why the author made it. Is the Cosmere a multiverse or just one setting with a long history and names of things changing? Are there characters who universe-hop and/or reincarnations of the same figures?

Also, the multiverse thing doesn't seem to have come all that late in Moorcock's work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:10:54 2017 No.10360019 >>10360004 It's not even a "multiverse," it's a bunch of star systems that can access each other by magic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:12:14 2017 No.10360027 >>10359899 np. It's based on a book I should probably read someday.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:13:12 2017 No.10360034

>>10360019
Huh. Cool.

I might actually get into Sanderson's shit.

Where should I start? I want to read it for the Cosmere stuff.

Also, if his different book series have different magical systems, what's the explanation for why magic works differently in different star systems?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:13:28 2017 No.10360036
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>>10359429
But the art doesn't even look the same when I google it. and I'm seeing a bunch of idol shit. Looks more like sailor moon than a spaceship movie

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:16:28 2017 No.10360051 >>10359730 How dirty is the GRi in this book?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:17:48 2017 No.10360056

>>10360034
Different shards of a shattered God hold different aspects of its personality. You can start anywhere, the books only connect with each other in easter eggs for a while; most people start with Mistborn (dystopian heist set 1000 years after the hero failed to slay the dark lord) or Way of Kings (multiple POV about a war against shell people on a continent where a superhurricane hits every month).

You can also try Elantris (first novel, pretty rough) or Warbreaker (free on his website, magical sword vs cute and awkward arranged marriage couple). His YA and thrillers aren't Cosmere and are typically of much lower quality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:18:51 2017 No.10360060 >>10360051 Time-traveling self-lemon parties.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:22:33 2017 No.10360074 On the subject of >>10359662, what other authors created mostly-unrelated series that were either implied or outright stated to take place in the same universe or multiverse?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:28:10 2017 No.10360084 >>10360060 Naw.. never liked lemon party... I don't want full G shit bro... I mean tomgirls yeah.. bet that boipucci up, but not old man on man. You failed to shill me this book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:37:57 2017 No.10360130 File: 42 KB, 312x475, 23577208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ....wow did not expect that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:54:44 2017 No.10360241 >Shallan is pronounced 'shuh-lawn' Why am I still reading this shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:57:07 2017 No.10360258 >>10360074 All of Robert E. Howard's boxing stories are in the same universe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:58:16 2017 No.10360266 >>10360258 >boxing I like boxing. Are the stories good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:58:16 2017 No.10360267 Odd I read Sandershit, even I read Borne, zero I read whatever Laird shit out recently.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:58:59 2017 No.10360275

>>10360241
Because you like intrigue, fights, and the feeling of exploration, even though you have a faint sense of guilt about dropping Guy Gavriel Kay for being boring as sin, and sometimes wonder if you might be one of those cultured patricians mocking Sanderson if you had just pressed forward a little harder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 18:59:02 2017 No.10360276 File: 339 KB, 608x912, fashion_havah_web.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10360034 >>10360056 >God :-)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:00:01 2017 No.10360280 >>10360266 They're really good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:02:03 2017 No.10360289 >third ada palmer book out this month she either writes fast as fuck or spent years trying to get published

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:03:39 2017 No.10360300 >>10360280 Awesome. Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:03:45 2017 No.10360302 I read annihilation. It was shit, a whole load of nothing.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:10:07 2017 No.10360329
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40 pages into Neuromancer and I think I have a little bit of a crush on Molly.

Is there something wrong with me or what?

Also I saw that she's in the third book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:19:47 2017 No.10360367 >>10360130 Good milf approved series

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:21:54 2017 No.10360383
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She was sopping wet when he entered her. “Damn you,” she said. “Damn you damn you damn you.” He sucked her nipples till she cried out half in pain and half in pleasure. Her cunt became the world. Only his hands mattered, only his mouth, only his arms around her, his cock inside her. He fucked her till she screamed, and then again until she wept, before he finally spent his seed inside her womb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:26:34 2017 No.10360406 >>10360383 somehow the word sopping is just the most vulgar of this piece

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 19:29:38 2017 No.10360419

>What are you reading?

Vernon Vinges Rainbows End
Its pretty meh, I'm trying to get through the Hugo Award winners I haven't yet read in the course of my usual reading
Might give it up soon

>Which books are you patiently waiting to be released in December?

Dunno, don't follow releases much

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:18:13 2017 No.10360585 just began the seventh book of wot will egwene ever find out about the dumai wells?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:19:26 2017 No.10360590 >>10360585 Yes, and her response will be "that was wrong of Rand to do, how dare he treat those poor Aes Sedai like that"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:26:26 2017 No.10360614 >>10360590 i imagine she's a cunt after i've read dumar wells i wished he'd go full madman and atack salidar or the tower

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:27:28 2017 No.10360620 >>10360614 also i hate the whole aes sedai are untouchable thing seanchan is the best country of wot

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:38:30 2017 No.10360660 >tfw it will soon be illegal for a white male to even read a book letalone write one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:39:27 2017 No.10360663 >>10360130 >tfw no older woman scheming to get your dick Why live?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 20:41:36 2017 No.10360671 File: 183 KB, 1024x768, Leoman of the Spurdo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10359568 Welcome brother.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:17:30 2017 No.10360794 >>10358773 >>10358857 Mervyn Peake's Titus Groan and Gormenghast are up there too.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:23:07 2017 No.10360803

Concept

>two genetically identical half vampires who live as sisters
>specifically, one's the left half and the other's the right half
>The night they were split in half was also the night their twin sister was killed
>Now the right half (mute due to brain biology)
lives the rest of her eternity as the dead twin

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:25:29 2017 No.10360810 >>10360803 just write smut about romancing therese or jeanette or possibly both. to get you into the mood: http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:39:39 2017 No.10360846 >>10359631 Enjoy, style is what Gibson does best.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:41:06 2017 No.10360849 File: 1.05 MB, 900x1358, Stephen-King-Flowchart-FINAL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10360074 Stephen King

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:46:37 2017 No.10360872 >>10360849 >Randall Flag and the Crimson King get something like 20 books of buildup. >die like bitches in the last book without doing anything

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:47:05 2017 No.10360875 >>10360849 This is actually awesome. Thanks for posting this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:56:11 2017 No.10360904 >>10360875 >this is actually autism ftfy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 21:56:27 2017 No.10360906 >>10360329 Yes, because she'll leave you for a better paycheck anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:07:37 2017 No.10360937 >>10359289 >read good intentions >it's about a dyel virgin lanket dicking a literal semen demon so good that she mind breaks and falls head over heels in love with him I just know that the author heavily frequented r9k in the past...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:11:02 2017 No.10360945 >>10360074 Asimov's Robots/Empire/Foundation universe is the classic example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:13:39 2017 No.10360949 >>10360937 >book 1: dicking the succubus >book 2: dickinng the angel and the succubus and some witches >book 3: succcubus and angel are fucking everyone around the mc and hes fine with it its pure degeneracy

Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y Tue Dec 5 22:20:16 2017 No.10360960

>>10360074
In scifi, I'd say it's the norm at least with what I've read. It's probably easier to build a sort of sandbox environment where the author can then spawn in worlds to develop a specific idea or plot.
>Vance's Gaean Reach
>Niven's Known Space
>Reynolds' Revelation Space
>etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:22:45 2017 No.10360970 This might sound odd, but can anybody recommend me a recently-completed sci-fi or fantasy series of around, say, a total of 1300-2000 pages or so with really good characterization and also a decent amount of action?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:24:21 2017 No.10360977 File: 325 KB, 1567x2048, 1512530661679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10360970

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:24:41 2017 No.10360979 >>10360970 Red Rising.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:41:16 2017 No.10361033 >>10359568 just finishing up midnight tides myself. deadhouse had one of my favorite storylines so far. coltaine is the shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 22:47:06 2017 No.10361051 >>10360977 >recently-completed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:21:05 2017 No.10361172 >>10359932 I think it was from the experience of having to learn everything at once reading the book, you know? But, once you get settled it's an enjoyable experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:25:27 2017 No.10361193 >>10361033 How good are the later books?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:30:45 2017 No.10361209
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Right, guys. I'm going to post some of the most recent stuff I've read, and you guys are going to tell me what to read next. I strongly prefer sci-fi.

>Book of the New Sun
>Blindsight and Echopraxia
>The Throne of Bones (McNaughton, not Vox Day)
>Gaunt's Ghosts
>Salt
>Hyperion and sequels

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:32:45 2017 No.10361212 >>10361209 >Salt New Model Army.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:33:21 2017 No.10361215 File: 2.53 MB, 3078x1963, 85585.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] did LotR both create high fantasy and make it redundant?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:37:51 2017 No.10361227 >>10361212 Is that the one where ideologies fight wars and not nations?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:48:05 2017 No.10361260 >>10359568 Just started Deadhouse. Holy shit that prologue. I can tell this book is going to be a wild ride

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:48:06 2017 No.10361261 >>10360937 His scifi series, Poor Man's War, is decent as far as milSF power fantasies though.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:50:04 2017 No.10361269

>>10358351
Did you read more than just gardens of the moon by erikson? Bakker is just a mini erikson. erikson churns out dozens of extremely believable characters... the beauty of those books is that they are behaving like real people would IN A FANTASY SETTING. I think this last point is something you aren't understanding.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 23:58:32 2017 No.10361291
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How do you get over the depression of finishing a very long series of books that you have been reading every day for a long time and knowing you will never see that world and those characters again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:00:07 2017 No.10361295 >>10361291 Stop reading for escapism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:00:22 2017 No.10361297 >>10361260 Deadhouse Gates introduces one of the least popular characters in the series, and also one of the best characters in the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:01:09 2017 No.10361298 Should a writer forgo a choice that could justify a plot development if the alternative is something they find symbolically staisfying

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:01:26 2017 No.10361300 >>10361295 Why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:02:16 2017 No.10361302 >>10361300 To solve your problem.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:03:18 2017 No.10361305 >>10361291 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsBKM5puZDM

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:07:34 2017 No.10361319 >>10360620 The only reason the seanchan aren't completely justified is because wise ones and windfinders prove there is a way to make channelers work.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:14:28 2017 No.10361340

>>10361319
I still say the Seanchean have the right idea. Only reason Wise Ones and Windfinders weren't as horrible as the Aes Sedai is that they were overall less powerful and organized, thus limiting the damage they could wreak over their respective societies. Never mind all the wealth and political clout the Aes Sedai had in addition to their horded arcane power.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:15:30 2017 No.10361341 >>10361227 Nah, it's the one where wiki-mercenaries mess up England.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:20:58 2017 No.10361356 >>10361302 But i need escapism because of all the other problems i can't solve.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:26:02 2017 No.10361366 Name a good high fantasy book that isn't over a million pages long lads, stores close soon

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:34:22 2017 No.10361389

>>10361340
Within the Aiel at least, the Wise Ones look much more organized than the Aes Sedai since they manage to recruit every girl who can channel.
The difference is that they have a clearly defined political role and remain tied to their sept/clan and marry and shit instead of isolating themselves and becoming frigid bitches

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:52:04 2017 No.10361431 >book described as "hunger games meets x" >the hunger games part is the dystopia not the bloodsport The murdergame aspect is actually a pretty fun idea but publishers are obsessed with the boring bit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 00:57:35 2017 No.10361443 >>10361431 Truly it is the dark souls of literary metaphors

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:15:27 2017 No.10361467 >>10358582 >Thrawn didn't win >Rowling wins fantasy friggin normies REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:18:13 2017 No.10361471 >>10359289 >5th season >male to female Tranny >gay character >bisex poly relationship the plot and setting's kinda cool but good god it's hard to stomach the characters

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:29:35 2017 No.10361487

>>10361389
It's that loyalty to clan, and their attachment to family, that ultimately prevents the Wise One's from being the monolithic entity that the White Tower is. The Aes Sedai despite all their internal politicking ultimately form a united front that governs by consensus. Even if there is dissent within the Tower, the Tower still acts as one. Or at least it did until the Schism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 01:51:52 2017 No.10361524 File: 24 KB, 270x370, ouroboros.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10361215 No, neither.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:01:44 2017 No.10361546 File: 325 KB, 382x417, cat.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there such a thing as a fantasy/horror book? Has it been done?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:06:59 2017 No.10361555

>>10361546
Depends on how you define fantasy. Stories with some sort of magical element? Like a fucking billion, basically all horror where it's not just some dude with an ax qualifies. Stories set in some sort of fictional world with magic and elves and shit? There's less, but there's a decent chunk.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:31:17 2017 No.10361607 >>10361555 >Stories set in some sort of fictional world with magic and elves and shit? There's less, but there's a decent chunk. Yeah, I guess I should have specified this is what I meant. Are there any good ones you could recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:51:24 2017 No.10361649 >>10361051 Mistborn is almost done, you could read that. Wabreaker too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 02:52:26 2017 No.10361653 >>10361209 Read The Colonel and ZeroS, both can be found on the tor website I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 03:20:03 2017 No.10361696 >>10361193 Okay The biggest issue I had with the series is that after a while if the chapters aren't about humans they are shit. Fuck all of the dragons, they were the worst

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 03:32:18 2017 No.10361709 >>10360074 Most of Heinlein's books take place in somewhat the same universe.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:03:29 2017 No.10361762

>>10358351
I used to be like you, now I'm not.
Believe me or not, you can decide to find pleasure in reading again. It's only a matter of willingness to let your stubbornness go, a little like cynicism. You're too critical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:14:36 2017 No.10361782 >>10358402 Who's the narrator in this audio book? I recently downloaded it but it may have been read by someone else.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:51:39 2017 No.10361865

>>10359096
>An authoritative society is better for its people.
Who would have thought that once you accept your place you will find peace and happiness?
All of these evil Aes Sedai forcing their views on the rescued damane and taking away their happiness. If the Seanchan had enslaved male channelers instead, I'm pretty sure the White Tower would have been ok with that. The Red Ajah would certainly have bargained with the Seanchan to get male a'dams, even before the cleansing of Saidin.
I can already hear the Amyrlin's inner dialogue as she punishes the Reds, secretly agreeing with them but thinking they should be punished for acting on their own.

The Seanchan's only problem is the retarded way their nobility acts with each other, with murder plots everywhere including between siblings.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 04:57:58 2017 No.10361879 >>10359214 >>10359289 All You Zombies

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 05:26:30 2017 No.10361931 [DELETED]

>>10361487
The difference is that Aes Sedai are taught during their training that Aes Sedai are above other mortals. They develop a superiority complex and can't stand having their authority being challenged. Being able to channel magically makes them better at everything, including decision making and ruling. That's the reason their hierarchy is based on the strength within the One Power. If you are a stronger channeler, you are more Aes Sedai, thus you are above.
That's also the reason why they show a united front to the world, they don't want people to start second guessing their decisions or even thinking that Aes Sedai can have divergent opinions. That would shatter the illusion of omniscience and omnipotence that they want to project.
Aes Sedai are not united at all, except in wanting to protect this illusion.

Wise Ones on the other hand don't care about a woman being able to channel. A woman's worth only depends on her wits. And even though they belong to different septs, every Aiel knows that a Wise One puts the well being of the Aiel as a whole above all. Not the Wise One's well-being. That's the main difference.

Wise Ones would sacrifice the very existence of Wise Ones - not just their lives - if it were for the greater good. Aes Sedai could never do that, because deep down they are convinced that Aes Sedai are the rightful leaders and have to show the way, thus how could it be for the greater good for the White Tower to disappear? Then, logically, preserving the White Tower is the top priority in any situation. And never mind that the world is falling apart.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 05:31:08 2017 No.10361940

>>10361487
The difference is that Aes Sedai are taught during their training that Aes Sedai are above other mortals. They develop a superiority complex and can't stand having their authority being challenged. Being able to channel magically makes them better at everything, including decision making and ruling. That's the reason their hierarchy is based on the strength within the One Power. If you are a stronger channeler, you are more Aes Sedai, thus you are above.
That's also the reason why they show a united front to the world, they don't want people to start second guessing their decisions or even thinking that Aes Sedai can have divergent opinions. That would shatter the illusion of omniscience and omnipotence that they want to project.
Aes Sedai are not united at all, except in wanting to protect this illusion.

Wise Ones on the other hand don't care about a woman being able to channel. A woman's worth only depends on her wits. And even though they belong to different septs, every Aiel knows that a Wise One puts the well being of the Aiel as a whole above all. Not the Wise One's well-being. That's the main difference.

Wise Ones would sacrifice the very existence of Wise Ones - not just their lives - if it were for the greater good. If they thought their societydid not function with this model, they would change it. Aes Sedai could never do that, because deep down they are convinced that Aes Sedai are the rightful leaders and have to show the way, thus how could it be for the greater good for the White Tower to disappear? Then, logically, preserving the White Tower is the top priority in any situation. And never mind that the world is falling apart.
They are just women with a strong sense of entitlement and the ability to channel, hence everybody calling them children.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 06:23:56 2017 No.10362023

pleb here
I am a huge fan of Myths, philosophy and metaphorical epics. If any of that makes sense.
I love Lotr and ALL of the lore which accompanies it.

I tried reading Garden of the Moon recently and could not get past the 'modern' way in which it is written.

I'm fairly new to fantasy. Anything you'd recommend that is as vast as lotr and as 'comfy''?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 06:31:40 2017 No.10362035

>>10362023
Conan. Howard was a huge fan of the mythic, the sense of vast ages going by, and a very engaging writer as well. You could also try his contemporaries, Clark Ashton Smith, Lord Dunsany, E.R. Eddison, and the like. All of them have distinctive, decidedly un-modern styles and themes.

One of my personal favorites, which doesn't match your request exactly but I think you'll enjoy immensely, is William Hope Hodgson's The Night Land. It's an epic set in the future, where humanity has retreated to a vast black pyramid under silent siege by gargantuan monsters, and it carries the sense of grand ages better than anything else I've read.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 06:35:44 2017 No.10362043

>>10361940
>Wise Ones on the other hand don't care about a woman being able to channel
Except that being able to channel more or less automatically makes you an Wise One apprentice. Kinda like being able to channel more or less automatically make you an Aes Sedai novice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:14:23 2017 No.10362097 >>10362035 Thanks, will check it out. I have enjoyed Gilgamesh, Beowulf and the like. I was thinking about The Way of Kings but not sure.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:16:26 2017 No.10362103 >>10362097 Sanderson does good with epic scale but it's better to think of him as a science fiction author, or even a comic book writer. His sense of wonder doesn't come from his prose, which is not only modern but modern and pedestrian.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:37:02 2017 No.10362143 Isekai novelist here, about to write my reborn into a new world bit. Should I start with him as young again or being born and ready to endure fourteen years of retraining? >>10362023 You'll get used to the new school brand of writing if you try.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:42:35 2017 No.10362157 >>10362143 Do it exactly like any other isekai except have him crash land in a spaceship.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:45:19 2017 No.10362163 >>10362097 >>10362023 >philosophy >myth Try the Buried Giant and the last unicorn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:45:40 2017 No.10362164 >>10362157 I'm reeeeaaaaal keen to do a birthing scene though. Where would I go next from a space ship landing?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:46:43 2017 No.10362168

>>10362043
Yes but there is no inherent worth in being able to channel, to a Wise One. The automatic apprenticeship is just a way to give a proper education to channelers because with great power comes great responsibility.
And because a woman who channels without being taught has 75% chance of dying eventually if she's not properly trained, according to Moiraine in the early books at least.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:49:12 2017 No.10362172 >>10362164 Have him find his menu screen and level up, I don't care.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:51:32 2017 No.10362178 >>10360419 Well I gave up at page 200 with another 183 to go It was dull as dishwater

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:52:56 2017 No.10362179 >>10362023 >comfy Read Wheel of Time and roast Aes Sedai with us.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:54:03 2017 No.10362184 >>10362172 Alright, crash landing it is. He'll get out and mercy kill what ever it is he hit, or possibly wipe out an entire village with a radiation leak then spend a thousand years in stasis for that fat power leveling.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:55:04 2017 No.10362186

>>10361215
No it did not create High Fantasy
The King of Elflands Daughter
The Mabinogion
The Worm Ouroboros
Lud-in-the-Mist
Conan
Jirel of Joiry
Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
The Compleat Enchanter
The Well of the Unicorn
All of these were published before LotR

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:55:36 2017 No.10362187 >>10362184 It's a very old standard but in a field dominated by reincarnation and magic circles it'll make yours stand out. Go get 'em, champ.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:56:46 2017 No.10362192 >>10362186 I was astounded when I found out The Broken Sword was published the same year as Fellowship of the Ring. It feels way more like modern fantasy than anything Tolkien wrote.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 07:59:13 2017 No.10362200

>>10362164
No inherent worth, only giving you the privilege of joining an exclusive group of incredibly powerful women even if you're an idiot. And you don't even have to pull your load by being powerful.

The Sea Folk is literally the only people that neither give their channelers stupid as privileges nor treat them worse than animals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:02:00 2017 No.10362205 >>10362186 Being first means nothing. Only The King of Elflands Daughter can be said, cause it inspired Tolkien, but Tolkien inspired almost everything else.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:04:25 2017 No.10362212

>>10362200
Apprentices aren't powerful and don't have any privilege except some ironical respect. A channeler who wouldn't deserve to become a Wise One would stay an apprentice until she proves she can be trusted making decisions. And bad Wise Ones are treated the same way Aes Sedai who can barely channel are, they take orders from their peers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:12:01 2017 No.10362235 >>10362205 >almost nothing else There, that fits the facts better. >KoED inspired Tolkien Have you even read it? If it did influence Tolkien it only influenced Smith of Wootton Major.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:14:15 2017 No.10362237

>>10362192
The Dying Earth was also published the same year
You should also read Andersons other fantasy Three Hearts and Three Lions
>>10362205
Are you dumb? That stuff is all foundational to fantasy and it predates Tolkien
You cant say he alone inspired "almost everything else"
You take away Conan and Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser and you have no sword & sorcery, no RPGs

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:15:59 2017 No.10362243 >>10362235 The only stuff he has inspired is the derivative endless series. Shit like Shannara

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:18:05 2017 No.10362250

>>10359289
>don't have nothing to read
>pick up this meme intentions
>guy is a white knight fedora tipper redshit user
>refuses sex because he is a gentleman
>all the women want his dick now
Not even quarter way through the book. This is comedy gold. I bet the author is a fat neckbeard. Will continue on because the image of a fat neckbeard writing this novel is too hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:20:23 2017 No.10362254 >>10362243 How did Tolkien inspire anything but the surface-level plot of Sword of Shannara and anything at all in the later books?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:21:02 2017 No.10362255

Something a lot of people forget is that Tolkien wasn't even well known in America until the mid/late 1960s when the mass market paperbacks came out following some bootleg editions
The hardcovers were published in 1950 and were a sort of obscure rarified thing known only to really hardcore people

So you then have Poul Andersons two fantasies Broken Sword + Three Hearts and Three Lions
Vances Dying Earth
Andre Nortons series
Le Guins first Earthsea
Moorcocks Elric
And Zelanys first Amber
All in print and better known before the LotR bootlegs came out and then Ballantine fixed it with proper paperbacks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:23:18 2017 No.10362260 >>10362254 >How did Tolkien inspire anything but the surface-level plot of Sword of Shannara You answered your own question

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:27:54 2017 No.10362268

>>10362184
>crash lands
>wipes out an entire village with a radiation leak from ship
>village so remote no one misses them
>radiation fucks the stasis machines
>instead of keeping vitals at what was set before he entered it just keeps improving him
>centuries of this before power source cuts out
>wakes
>body, mind, stamina that of a god
>nanoparticles colonized his body
>heightened learning
>massive strength
>meta abilities from brain being fucked with for so long
>leaves ship
>time to fuck shit up

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:31:00 2017 No.10362281

>>10358416
Bracketts amazing and her influence cant be under stated

She taught Ray Bradbury to write
Literally
They were both members of a fanclub in LA and would meet on the weekends at the beach and she'd read his stories and critique them and help him rewrite them
When she got the call from Howard Hawks to come to Hollywood and adapt The Big Sleep to the screen - she wrote some good hardboiled crime stories too and he read one and thought she was a guy - she gave him the story she was in middle of working on to finish and that was one of his first professional sales

Ursula K. Le Guins earliest work is spot on Brackett imitations
Michael Moorcock always goes on about how much of an influence she was
And an obvious influence on George Lucas
Harlan Ellison dedicated his Medea shared world anthology

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:35:20 2017 No.10362289 >>10362281 >She taught Ray Bradbury to write SS? d-did he get some of that sweet mature pussy?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:41:19 2017 No.10362305

>>10359203
>Seventh Decimate
This turned out to be kinda interesting.

The first three parts are pretty boring as there's sod all action in the rest but it at least becomes something worth reading even if it is all just conversations.

I'm not quite sure at this point if Donaldson is going for an evil protagonist, a kind of prick in an actually complex moral world or if he's actually suggesting that the pacifists in the story are villains.

Wouldn't recommend anyone bothering with it until a sequel or two are out although it is kinda interesting as a contrast to the usual protag goes off in search of magic academy stories.

Biggest problem is how obvious every twist is, to the point where you're wondering why the characters haven't even considered them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:42:59 2017 No.10362312 >>10362305 woah I pressed enter too much, that reads like shit, sorry lads.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:44:24 2017 No.10362316 >>10362289 he was only 5 years younger stop watching anime

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:45:41 2017 No.10362321

>>10359719
I did not say that. Wolfe is great but certainly not for his characterization. Obviously, I'm not saying Black Library stuff is comparable to New Sun on every level.
>>10361269
Yes, I've read up to book 7, I think. I'm not saying that Erikson didn't have his enjoyable moments (Memories of Ice was great when I read it), but upon re-reading you realize most of it consists of cheap string pulls and anime tier character and setting.
I find Erikson to be a terrible storyteller in general. People make it out to be as if he's this master of the craft with things hidden in there for you to discover--in reality he's completely incompetent and has no idea when or how to dish out world-building and structure an epic.
And from what I've heard, it doesn't even have a proper ending.
And Bakker and Erikson are incomparable. For one, Bakker's prose is legitimately good, the premise to his story is interesting, and the magic system is well thought out. Not to mention that unlike Erikson, Bakker seems like a smart guy and has interesting takes on things.
The only problem is that--ironically, given his scientific leaning--he has some real artiste syndrome. He truly thinks his books are still good even if everyone else hates them, and that he won't ever listen to anyone's opinion on how they should be handled. So he'll keep inserting pointless characters that only take away from the story and gratuitous sex shit that turns people away because he was an edgy teenager once.
Though I will give you one thing: Bakker's characters aren't just unbelievable, they're all deeply fucking unlikable. Erikson might be a Hollywood tier hack but I'm still fond of characters like Karsa, Icarian, Tool, Pearl etc. Can't name a single person I'd want to be friends with from Bakker's stories, and he thinks that's "the point."

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:51:35 2017 No.10362337
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>>10358169

Why does this always appear on top 20 Recommended Fantasy lists?!

What am i missing? It doesn't deserve to appear alongside Tolkien, Moorcock, Erikson, Donaldson

Its bland, full of plot holes and has dialogue that isnt authentic to the setting. It reads like young adult fiction.

Please explain yourselves

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:52:38 2017 No.10362341 >>10362337 The bar is set extremely low.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 08:56:40 2017 No.10362358 >>10362337 Idiots think the third act twist and the fact that all the characters are cartoonishly horrible mean that it's a clever genre deconstruction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:17:46 2017 No.10362424 >>10362337 I enjoyed the magician and the torturer, like most people. The humor in the books is close to my personal sense of humor, too. >>10362358 I've never seen anyone pretend that.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:22:58 2017 No.10362437

So I just bought Iron Council, I was wondering if China Mieville experts could tell me when it fits in chronologically in his universe since I'm nearly done with Perdido Street Station and I'm loving it a lot. The only other book by him I have is The City and the City.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:23:58 2017 No.10362444 A-are there any books like Berserk?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:27:06 2017 No.10362456 >>10362444 Beserk's just a black company ripoff desu

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:29:25 2017 No.10362464 >>10362143 Answer me >>10362268 you fuck. I showed you my intellectual property, please respond.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:31:02 2017 No.10362466 >>10361649 >almost done Heh. No. At least two more time skips to go. >>10361209 Alastair Reynolds, Revelation Space or House of Suns or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:34:59 2017 No.10362476 >>10362337 >doesn't deserve to appear alongside Tolkien, Moorcock, Erikson, Donaldson You're right, Erickson shouldn't be in there. It does belong amongst the rest though, cause they all shit.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:36:21 2017 No.10362479

>>10362456
Hmm ok I'll be more clear, I'be only read the golden age arc of Berserk and have no intention of going further because I feel like I had closure. What I like about Berserk is pretty much just the fact that Guts's life pretty much went off the rails the moment he was born and everytime he tries to open up or explore himself life hands him a fast one causing him to turtle up and eventually become totally disillusioned with the idea that he could ever be happy so he accepts his fate and the role in the world that he was forced into even though he doesn't want to.
tl;dr emo shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:38:06 2017 No.10362484 >>10362479 Soldier Son does this but it's shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:38:39 2017 No.10362486 File: 1.74 MB, 948x1244, Avoid All Of These Authors.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10362337 >thinks this avoid was a meme

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:39:09 2017 No.10362488 >>10362479 Literally anything Robin Hobb wrote, just don't start with >>10362484 as it's poop

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:40:37 2017 No.10362489 >>10362486 75% of that chart is fine

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:41:59 2017 No.10362495 >>10362268 >>10362464 Sorry anon I was cross-boarding. Your ideas were inspirational, it's given me insight into the next story I'm going to write because the rough drafts were horrible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:45:57 2017 No.10362510 >>10362337 >Donaldson You're funny man I'm clenching my sides

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:54:46 2017 No.10362547 >>10362489 That's why it's edgy. Are you an internet neophyte?

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 09:56:28 2017 No.10362555

>>10362488
honestly now that I have managed to put in words what I like about it(the delivery of that emo stuff with the goal of setting up a revenge story) it has become demystified and I'm not sure if I want more of the same. I just think that Berserk is probably not the epitone of character development but I don't know where to start to find more compelling characters to me, probably not necessarily in scifi/fantasy but thanks anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:07:42 2017 No.10362605 >>10362466 Yeah but the eras are self contained, apart from references to the mythology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:09:38 2017 No.10362611 Hey guys, the asha'man kill, what is it? is it a weave of hair which makes your head explode or a weave of earth which fuck everything up? i dunno how picture it

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:12:41 2017 No.10362629

>>10362611
Aes Sedai use complex weaves to achieve physical phenomenon. They mix air and fire to create a flame for example.
The Asha'man just take a single type of power and smack you in the face with it. The bodies explode because the Asha'man are using pure fire and instantly superheating all the liquid in their targets.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:15:33 2017 No.10362641 >>10362629 oh boy i really love asha'man rand should've just call the asha'man and fuck the white tower up

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:18:09 2017 No.10362647 File: 59 KB, 328x500, 51bXdCzulNL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone read this? The premise looked sort of interesting, and I'm a sucker for wizard-and-apprentice stories.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:22:48 2017 No.10362667
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Are there any books that follow not a single character but rather a whole society on its rise and eventual decadence?

Something like the second renaissance or history episodes from logh?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:24:46 2017 No.10362680 >>10362667 The Silmarillion is basically the story of the various Elven and Human peoples from their creation to the end of the First Age

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:42:44 2017 No.10362743 >>10362667 the foundation series, perhaps

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:44:04 2017 No.10362749 >>10362641 >>10362611 i like you wot poster. your enthusiasm brings me back to when i read wot myself

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:51:53 2017 No.10362774 >>10362611 >weave of hair that's a pretty hilarious typo right there

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:53:06 2017 No.10362780 >>10362774 Darn, I thought y'all were talking about some exploding wigs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:55:18 2017 No.10362786 >>10362774 holy shit i only realized now that you pointed it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 10:58:29 2017 No.10362798 >>10359289 >>10359300 >>10360937 >>10362250 >>10360949 >>10361261 You guys convinced me to try. Just starting I see he lives with his mom.how gri is it? I love older women. Does he fuck his mom?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:22:46 2017 No.10362855 >>10359289 >prince of nothing Really? I am going to start reading this after i finish what i'm on, i didn't know it was like that. What's ""degenerate"" about it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:24:45 2017 No.10362862 >>10362798 >gri what's this now

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:30:47 2017 No.10362890

>>10361209
Foundation series, a more pulpy and less mystical version of Hyperion tbqph
If you enjoy Watts >>10361653 and Beyomd the Rift, then maybe Rifters if you enjoy his sort of creepy oblong writing style
Then read Too Like the Lightning just so me and mecha-anon have someone to discuss the latest book with come the 16th

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:32:06 2017 No.10362893 >>10362862 gay/rape/incest

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:37:12 2017 No.10362911 >>10362855 Angry gay barbarian Alien hedonist atheists

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:44:16 2017 No.10362933 >>10362911 That's it? I was worried but now i'm just disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:44:49 2017 No.10362937 >>10362855 Everything. Cucking, rape, pedophilia, gay, its got the works.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:46:02 2017 No.10362942 >>10362933 Well I don’t want to give too much away without spoiling. Has some good twists that rely on the gri shock

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:46:04 2017 No.10362943 >>10362667 Last and First Men + Star Maker

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:46:36 2017 No.10362946 >>10362937 Now i'm back to worried again, thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:48:00 2017 No.10362948 I wish it was standard for OCR rips to use ISBN as the filename. Maybe automated metadata retrieval would work better then :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:55:20 2017 No.10362962 why does lan love nynaeve, was just reading here and suddenly he loves her, why? this doesnt make sense

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 11:56:54 2017 No.10362967 >>10362946 >reading the current king of GRI >worried What were you expecting anon? PoN shitposting isn’t exactly subtle

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:10:05 2017 No.10363005 >>10362962 Her attempts to impress him were cute. And her almost crippling insecurity that she masks with grumpy stubbornness makes him want to protect her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:15:46 2017 No.10363025 >>10362946 50% of Bakker's writing is needlessly long made up unpronounceable names, the other 50% is male on male rape

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:17:50 2017 No.10363036 >>10363025 >he can’t pronounce Anasûrimbor >laughingdûnyain.png

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:40:23 2017 No.10363110 >I know you are still missing PSHSHSHHHHH Dallanar God bless audiobooks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 12:55:48 2017 No.10363167 >>10362962 They're both stubborn as fuck and I assume her independent and authoritative streaks are quite desirable in the Borderlands.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:08:32 2017 No.10363219 >>10362358 I enjoyed the meltdown in book 3, and didn't return for the next book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:37:28 2017 No.10363358 >>10363219 Supposedly he got better after first law but I just got so bored by all the domestic abuser chapters that I have no interest in reading him again It really shows that Abercrombie was a /b/ poster when he was writing it

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:39:41 2017 No.10363368 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Speaking of hair, apparently Nalthians make good worldhoppers because they can modify their appearance and not just their hair.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:43:58 2017 No.10363395 What are some good fantasy novels with dwarves as protagonists? I read Gotrek, and it's good, but Felix chases after pussy too much, and I hate romance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:44:49 2017 No.10363401 File: 29 KB, 310x475, 17250961.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished Oathbringer, it's this series really gonna have 10 books? Fuck Shallan, Kaladin need to get together with Jasnah

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:47:39 2017 No.10363406 >>10363395 at least read Slayer lad

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:51:34 2017 No.10363418 >>10363401 supposedly the current story will be wrapped up in five books and the second five books will be a different story with different characters and Odium being the connecting plot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 13:52:01 2017 No.10363420 >>10359289 I'm looking for Wild Wastes but i can't seem to find it anywhere, can anyone help me out?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:04:42 2017 No.10363469 >>10363420 Amazon

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:12:26 2017 No.10363499 >>10363420 http://audiobookbay.nl/audio-books/wild-wastes-randi-darren/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:17:20 2017 No.10363515 >he reads any books with dwarf/elf/etc dunno why but every book with these other races feels unimaginative, i think it's because they've became generic, overly done, i prefer when the author creates his own races and not these templates.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:20:57 2017 No.10363533 >>10363420 literally the 5th result on google for "wild wastes epub

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:22:21 2017 No.10363539 >>10362962 If you re-read the first book, there were hints of this when they first met. With their passive tracking competition etc. Lan likes his women strong and independent.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:24:01 2017 No.10363546 >>10362680 >>10362743 >>10362943 Thank you. I will most definitely check them out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:26:06 2017 No.10363557 >>10363401 Kaladin will eventually go whit Syl

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:33:26 2017 No.10363591 >>10363499 >>10363533 Thanks i think i searched every format except epub

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:51:55 2017 No.10363654 is it true there will be a "gender war" later in the series(wot), i am in the seventh book btw

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:55:15 2017 No.10363661 >>10363654 I can't think of a single thing in the series that could be called a "gender war"

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 14:55:56 2017 No.10363662 >>10363557 Obviously. Hopefully the Shallan romantic subplot is over and done with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:00:25 2017 No.10363676 >>10363654 If you can call channeler gurls fighting channeler bois a gender war then... i guess?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:23:08 2017 No.10363761 >>10362437 None of them are sequels, they just take place in the same world, but peridido is first, the scar second, iron council third. The scar is far and away the best of the three.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:24:46 2017 No.10363770 >>10363676 >>10363661 i see i ask because i saw many times some fags talking about a war between female and male channelers i hoped it was rand atacking the tower

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:26:13 2017 No.10363779 >>10363418 Not exactly, there will just be a time skip between book 5 and 6, and the focus will be on different characters, but the old ones will still be there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:45:45 2017 No.10363835 File: 188 KB, 311x475, 15839976[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10360979 Is it good? It sounds good. But you know, YA, plot a bit like hunger games, there are a couple of red flags rising.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:58:55 2017 No.10363878 >>10363770 Elaida does something stupid in regards to the Black Tower but I won't spoil exactly what it is because it's deliciously ironic

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 15:59:45 2017 No.10363882

>>10363835
It is okay, but it is still young adult, and comes with faults associated with the distinction. And the main character has the emotional development ark of a brick, in my opinion. But if you think you won't get bored of the repetition of the name Io, you might want to give it a try.

My recommendation for >>10360970 might be the Poseidons Children trilogy, though your mileage may vary.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:02:13 2017 No.10363893 >>10363878 I loved that they kept making you think Eladia was a Black Ajahs plot when in actuality it was just a bunch of power hungry retards fucking up like all Aes Sedai do

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:06:00 2017 No.10363903 If you think about it though, the only Aes Sedai who actually do their job properly are the Red Ajah. All other Ajahs fail miserably at their self proclaimed roles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:07:34 2017 No.10363908 >>10363882 I fully expect the golds to be the actually interesting characters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:08:02 2017 No.10363909 >>10363903 i hate aes sedai, they are all "HOW DARE YOU I AM A MOTHERFUCKIN AES SEDAI" then procede to get fukd in the ass

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:09:13 2017 No.10363914 >>10363903 green ajah do a great job of being huge sluts and white of being frigid bitches

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:10:06 2017 No.10363916

>>10363903
>Yellows entire job is to go around healing people
>Somehow they fucked even this simple job up by making everyone in the world assume healing comes with some horrific price
Browns kinda did their job of researching shit, its just that it was never relevant.

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:13:28 2017 No.10363926

>>10363914
Green is supposed to stand ready for the last battle, but if it was up to them it would be over before it began. Instead they just keep a stable of studs to satisfy them (and for most of the Ajah's existence, against their will)
Whites are supposed to be about logic, but instead of philosophy or math they just practice vulcan speak all day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:15:00 2017 No.10363929 File: 159 KB, 740x925, Vedeledev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10363401 >tfw Jasnah's book will be 8th or 10th >>10363418 >Odium being the connecting plot [citation needed] >>10363557 itty bitty babby chance

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:20:16 2017 No.10363947 >>10363929 unaware of anything specific but he is supposed to be the big bad for the Cosmere et all

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:23:42 2017 No.10363956 File: 299 KB, 1620x2467, OB_ENDNOTE_ebook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10363947 >he is supposed to be the big bad for the Cosmere et all Still waiting on that citation, broseidon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:27:23 2017 No.10363973 >>10363947 So far he is. At least he's the only Shard who actively want to kill all his others shards. Maybe there's another one hiding considering certain events in the latest Mistborn book but it's probably also him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 16:32:56 2017 No.10363996 >>10363903 >blue (Moiraine) >literally meddle and save the world >brown (Verin) >literally map the entire black ajah >green (Cadsuane) >literally partake in defeating the darkness >yellow (braidtugging intensifies) >literally heal everything

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:09:21 2017 No.10364123

What's some good SFF where the main character isn't a straight white man? I'm not asking for political reasons or because I think there's anything wrong with straight white dudes. Hell, I check two of the three boxes (I'm bi). I'm just curious because I'm realizing that most of the sci-fi and fantasy I've read has centered on such characters and I'm curious what else is out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:26:00 2017 No.10364206 If shai'tan is the lord of the grave why the fuck doesnt he ressurect the forsaken who rand killed?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:33:27 2017 No.10364243 >>10364206 He does you fucking idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:34:45 2017 No.10364252 >>10364243 only arangar and the other fag or does he ressurect others? Also, a'rangar is incredibly hot >man is imprisioned in the body of a female, procedes to become a slut

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:36:50 2017 No.10364263 >>10364252 He can't because of balefire, he explicitly says so after Rahvin gets toasted.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 17:50:07 2017 No.10364333 >>10364252 >>10364263 >not spoilering Balefire erase you from the pattern either permanently or at least a couple of ages so he can't resurrect everyone. But the ones he can resurrect he do resurrect.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 18:06:58 2017 No.10364403 >>10364206 Word of God says he can only resurrect Forsaken if he acts within milliseconds of their death, since Balefire erases you completely from the pattern before you actually die he can't bring you back

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 18:18:12 2017 No.10364455 >>10364123 Malazan has no real main character but its cast is the most diverse I’ve seen in a SFF series

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 18:23:29 2017 No.10364481 >>10364123 the stormlight archive by sandon branderson

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 18:37:00 2017 No.10364527 New Thread >>10364514 >>10364514 >>10364514

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 19:48:13 2017 No.10364781 >>10362289 No but Ed Hamilton did

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 23:09:22 2017 No.10365522 Is Way of Kings any good or is just anime trash? First Chapter is some dude using his SICK powers to flip around a room. Should I keep going? If not, should I go with Elric?

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