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Where should I start?

>> No.10347161

>>10347160
Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Homer, God

>> No.10347185
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>>10347160
>FAR

>> No.10347192

With a book about oxymorons LOL

>> No.10347194

>>10347160

Are you looking for contemporary intellectuals?

>> No.10347200

>>10347160
Nick Land

>> No.10347206

>>10347194
Not necessarily.

>> No.10347209

Theodore Kaczynski

>> No.10347231
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Consider starting with Joseph de Maistre. (St. Petersburg dialogues)

>> No.10347241

>>10347200
Seconded. Nick Land is peerless.

>> No.10347249

From experiencing the American/Canadian right-wing conservative scene it's sadly Ayn Rand.

>> No.10347275

>>10347160
Is this the bald manlet?

>> No.10347277

>>10347200
>>10347209
I would actually pay good money to watch a debate between these two.

>> No.10347290

>>10347249
She’s a hack, though, and her philosophy resulted in the opposite of conservativism. The face of libertarian policies in practice is global capitalism, e. g. ultraliberalism.

>> No.10347300

>>10347275
no, that's the twitter use, logo_daedalus. he can be quite jarring

>> No.10347301

>>10347160
William F Buckley.

>> No.10347307

>>10347275
no thats logo. king pseud of far-right 'weird twitter'

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>> No.10347321

>>10347300
>>10347307
Yeah, I don't think so. It just doesn't make any sense. I can't imagine a person that looks like this acting that way.

>> No.10347324

>>10347321
lol 10/10 m8. you trolled me.

>> No.10347340
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>>10347160
Start with the NEETs

>> No.10347341

>>10347160
>Logo/Kantbot
>far right

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cheetos and mountain dew

>> No.10347358

>>10347160
>far right intellectuals

oxymoron. anyone with functioning brain cells is a person of the left.

>> No.10347370

>>10347200
Nick Land is a liberal

>> No.10347372

>>10347301
Buckley wasn't far right at all

>> No.10347404

>>10347301
>>10347372
>he said something racist so he is far right

>> No.10347511

The far right's greatest asset is its anti-intellectualism.

>> No.10347555

>>10347160
Watch some old Jonathan Bowden lectures

>> No.10347562

>>10347343
>Heh...now that Trump is President...I can go outside!

>> No.10347571

AltRight.com is a part of National Policy Institute, which is a white nationalist organization led by the prominent Richard Spencer, who is very important on the alt-right. They have a recommended reading list.
https://altright.com/reading-list/

American Renaissance is another white nationalist organization run by another very important alt-right thinker, Jared Taylor. They have a recommended reading list.
https://www.amren.com/commentary/2017/01/alt-right-reading-list-jared-taylor-white-nationalist-books/

>> No.10347574

>>10347511
what the fuck does that word even mean
t. ivory tower jobless marxcucks

>> No.10347580

>>10347574
>ivory tower
>jobless
I would think that you'd have to pick one

>> No.10347591

>>10347562
Jej

>> No.10347593

>>10347160
start with all the @TradNation_ members

>> No.10347595

http://humanbiologicaldiversity.com/
Start with race realism

Some particularly good links from the above site
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/science/26human.html?pagewanted=print
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/10376
http://www.economist.com/node/14742737
http://quillette.com/2016/06/23/on-the-reality-of-race-and-the-abhorrence-of-racism/

>> No.10347601

>>10347580
Not the guy you were responding to but, what you just said is retarded. You can get a degree from Yale in underwater basket weaving and you still wont get a job

>> No.10347602

>>10347192
>drumfp lmao xd

>> No.10347605

>>10347580
Academia isn't a real job to these people

>> No.10347609

>>10347601
>Ivy League
>Ivory Tower
You're making a category mistake or you're trolling me, one or the other

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>>10347609
Or I am drunk and cannot read. Bet you didn't think about that, bucko.

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>>10347615
No excuse for being retarded

>> No.10347618
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>>10347160
>far right
>intellectuals

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another chart

>> No.10347641

>>10347574
I don't mean it in a bad way. The rejection of intellectual standards, institutions, and paradigms allows to avoid the sterility that currently plagues the left. Intellectualism is an integral component of the prevailing structures of society.Genuine resistance necessitates opposing it.

The whole ivory tower analogy fails to describe the position of intellectuals in our society. These aren't isolated individuals unaware of what's happening in the "real world". These are deeply knowledgeable and intelligent people who exert a great deal of influence over us all. It would be better to compare them to the inquisitor in the torture chamber,

>> No.10347642

Carl Schmidt
Vilfredo Pareto
Robert Michels
Goerges Sorel (sort of)

Skip Memevola.

>> No.10347644

>>10347642
Evola is enjoyable, though

>> No.10347656

>>10347642
Evola isn't even an intellectual. He's an esotericist, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way at all.

>> No.10347670

>>10347622
epic chart, many thanks

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>>10347618
>People I personally disagree with
>Intellectuals

>> No.10347677

>>10347160
Sam Hyde, Jordan Peterson, Sargon of Akkad, Tim Allen all the original greats.

>> No.10347678

>>10347677
Sargon...my husbando

>> No.10347700

>>10347160
Mises, Hayek, Friedman(david or milton), Chesterton, james buchanan

>> No.10347716

>>10347700
lowqltb8

>> No.10347722

>>10347160
It would be nice to splash some acid on this faggot's face so he learns some empathy

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>>10347716

>> No.10347755

>>10347209
I would hardly characterize Kaczynski as "far right" just because he was highly critical of modern leftism. He was essentially an anarchist and would have just as soon opposed fascism as a stabilizing force in technological society were it not basically abolished in the western world by the time of his spree.

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>>10347700
Did I hear somebody say something about discount Child Slaves???

>> No.10347805

>>10347722
Yeah then he would stumble into a cart of horse manure and it would cover him and he'd fall down an everyone would clap and we'd get girlfriends just like in our superhero movies am I right fellow Democrat?

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>>10347797
lmaoooooo

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>>10347676
>People who accuse me of biases
>Intellectuals

>> No.10347840
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10347840

Not really far-right, but if you want some criticism of the Enlightenment that is neither the Frankfurt School or religious bullshit, read Reinhart Koselleck's "Critique and Crisis". I've seen good references about Augusto Del Noce too, but this one is a notoriously difficult author. An easier one to read that I think is very underrated is Paul Gottfried, who is probably the last surviving Germanophile Jew and who should be more read by the alt-right (he coined the term, after all).

>> No.10347884

>>10347622
Nostromo being considered reactionary and imperialist never fails to get me mad as fuck

>> No.10347892

>>10347633
curious, how would LotR be considered reactionary?

>> No.10347898

>>10347892
To me it's curious it would be considered anything but reactionary. Tolkien was a traditionalist catholic born in the 19th century, a conservative and a monarchist.

>> No.10347904

>>10347898
actually nvm, completely forgot about his naturalist/anti-industrialist standpoint, fits clearly in with reactionary literature

>> No.10347908

>>10347160
Pre-modern stuff is almost all grounded in principles that would be regarded as far right one way or the other. So from Cicero to Dante, you could read that and find right wing principles all over the place.
After the enlightenment, you can start with donoso cortes and de maistre, i.e. the counter-enlightenment. Then in no particular order you can read Junger, Maurras, Spengler, Carlyle. De Benoist is cool for contemporary stuff, maybe something by Sunic too. Not-necessarily-reactionary thinkers who have echoed reactionary worries are people like Oakeshott, Lasch. I don't know were to put de Jouvenel exactly but read him too. Also the italian elitist school.
Hope that helps.

>> No.10347912

Alain de Benoist and the French lads.

>> No.10347946

>>10347160
there's not really any such thing

>> No.10348001

>>10347892
'Death was ever present, because the Nu
menoreans still, as they had in their old
kingdom, and so lost it, hungered after endl
ess life unchanging. Kings made tombs
more splendid than houses of the living,
and counted old names in the rolls of their
descent dearer than the names of sons. Ch
ildless lords sat in aged halls musing on
heraldry; in secret chambers withered m
en compounded strong elixirs, or in high
cold towers asked questions of the stars.
And the last king of the line of Anarion had
no heir. "

>> No.10348023

>>10348001
Is this reactionary?
>Kings made tombs more splendid than houses of the living

This kind of behaviour is what you expect from reactionaries, and even /pol/ alt-right who talk nonstop about heritage. In the story, these are the people that damn their civilisation.

>> No.10348028

Culture of Critique

>> No.10348051

>>10347358
>>10347511
>>10347946
The right-wing isn't ''anti-intellectual''. A man is not ''anti-intellectual'' because he disdains Karl Marx, Leon Trotsky, or Thomas Paine. How should one categorize Martin Heidegger, Carl Schmitt, Joseph De Maistre, Georges Sorel, Charles Maurras, F.T. Marinetti, Louis Ferdinand-Celine, etc. except as intellectuals?

>> No.10348056

>>10348051

popular right-wing victories in recent times have been driven, in part, by a condemnation of 'experts'(intellectuals)

>> No.10348073

>>10348056
Sure, a rejection of left-wing intellectuals in favor of right-wing theory and intellectuals instead, which is the exact same thing every political faction does.

>> No.10348074

>>10348073
>a rejection of left-wing intellectuals
yes
>in favor of right-wing theory and intellectuals
Hardly

>> No.10348079

>>10348073
>Sure, a rejection of left-wing intellectuals in favor of right-wing theory and intellectuals instead

this didn't really happen though, you had a general condemnation of experts in all their guises

>> No.10348090

>>10348056
>wilfully ignorant of the nefarious role played by Soviet "experts"

>> No.10348121

>>10348074
>>10348079
Are you talking about Trump in America? I would hardly consider him right-wing, the right-wing has been effectively criminalized in the US since the end of WW2. The OP was asking for right-wing intellectuals, other users claimed that such a thing didn't exist, I was just correcting them in their ignorance. Anyway to the OP, like another user in this thread recommended I would read De Maistre.

>> No.10348127

>>10348056
>>10348079
There's been maybe a bit too much "expertise" in the last few years.

>> No.10348142

>>10347946
>my professor said there is no such thing as right wing intellectuals right before skipping over right wing intellectuals

>> No.10348148

>>10347231
>Start with the St Petersburg dialogues

Nah, start with Considerations on France.

>> No.10348150

>>10348056
ehh, it's mostly a reaction against left-wing idealism in favour of well-known established historical truths about human nature.

>> No.10348160

>>10348150
oh boy, you've said human nature.
Prepare for leftypol to come screaming about how there's no such thing as human nature while at the same time denying they believe in outdated blank slate theories.

>> No.10348182

>>10348160
Define human nature.

>> No.10348193

>>10348182
q.e.d
>Human nature refers to the distinguishing characteristics—including ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—which humans tend to have naturally.

>> No.10348201

>>10347160
Pretty sure that's not the same person.

>> No.10348208

>>10347160
>far right is a bit of a meme term bout reading anything outside the neoliberal hellscape is good
greeks and romans
Evola
oswald spengler
Nietzsche
Nick land
Moldbug
H.P lovecraft
Savitri Devi for rightwing Environmentalism
Sir oswald mosley

>> No.10348229

>>10347700
>Chesterton
>far right
Shut the fuck up

>> No.10348233

>>10348023
you fell in a meme my friend, a culture should be preserved and promoted (oxymoron), if it's only preserved is a dead thing.

>> No.10348235

>>10348229
Are you denying that Chesterton's idea are reactionary?

>> No.10348250

>>10348229
next you'll tell me LOTR is not reactionary literature

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>>10348056
that's right, but that's because we come from an epoch were blind belief in experts either in neoliberal economics or in social engineering interventions was the norm, the anti-intelectualism is a response to the failure of both those dogmas which are no longer tenable, it's a normal restructuring which any ideology that wants to flourish in the present will have to confront.

the right was able to ideologically confront both, even though once they are elected they double-down on neoliberal economics which will be their downfall when people's lives keep getting worse under their government

the left was more or less able to confront the neoliberal economics (although this is arguable seeing the victory of factions like Hillary > Sanders), but they are still doubling down on the neoliberal social engineering which will not work as long as people feel like they are living meaningless lives, and the new generations see nothing in the older generation to aspire to, that could warrant keeping the same path and trying to imitate your parents or older siblings in their ideological dreams

>> No.10348287

>>10348160
>>10348182
even if you want to follow marx you have to conceive of people as the kind of creature whose nature alienates him when living on a capitalist mode of production.

>> No.10348300

I don't understand theses threads, "Far-Right" Intellectuals occupied most of history, the Alt-right would be disgusted by Kant's opinion of women or Lawrence's opinion of low-brow culture.

>> No.10348310

>>10348300
Liberals (commies don't do this very often) frequently hold two contradictory beliefs about history: whig view of history and that far right ideas were never common. An example of this is how american liberals often say that white nationalism is anti-american.

>> No.10348319

>>10348300
You only have to go back 150 years and the far-left would be considered moderately conservative today; Marx and Engels hated "Negroids" and the avant garde/futurism.

>> No.10348342

>>10347892
Death of the author literally sets itself to that reading.

Tolkien himself was just a moderate reactionary, the ones that hate nazis, but socially are anti-modern.

>> No.10348346

>>10348056
Um, experts are neo-liberal slaves. Even left-wing intellectuals know this and critique them. Get your facts straight retard.

>> No.10348349

>>10348342
>the ones that hate nazis
Why wouldn't a Christian reactionary hate the nazi's? they're completely antithesis to one another.

>> No.10348372

>>10348346
Yuri confirmed the USSR didn't actively recruit academics or experts because they were considered useless, worse than political prostitutes.

>> No.10348374

>>10347160
lmao is that really him?

>> No.10348376

>>10348374
no

>> No.10348433

>>10347160
wait holy shit is that r cam irl? hahahahahaha

>> No.10348441

>>10348433
no

>> No.10348449

>>10348372
You confirmed you don't have a clue about the Soviet Union.

>> No.10348451

>>10348372
see >>10348090

>> No.10348458

>>10348051
FUCK GEORGES SOREL
THAT LIZARD BROKE THE BANK OF ENGLAND

>> No.10348470

>>10347571
>american
>thinker
lol

>> No.10348473

Hoppe

>> No.10348475

>>10347200
But he is a cyber-feminist.

>> No.10348488

>>10348475
To be fair you can be far-right and a cyber-feminist.

>> No.10348494

>>10348488
No.

>> No.10348500

Nick Land.

>> No.10348604

>>10347160
Unironically Schopenhauer

>> No.10348615

>>10347161
>Plato
>right-wing
How stupid are you?

>> No.10348618

>>10347200
>far-right
>suggests a crazy Marxist
what did he mean by that?

>> No.10348619

>>10348051
The majority of /lit/ doesn't even know what an intellectual is; most people here think it has something to do with intelligence...

>> No.10348648

Nietzsche

>in;b4 retarded left-"Nietzschean" abortion replies

>> No.10348653

>>10348648
Read deleuze faggot

>> No.10348661

>far-right

Even George Orwell would be considered far-right by today's standards

The Western world has gotten so outrageously left wing, in social terms, in the past few decades that any concept of a center has demolished. Now if you have any grievance about immigration at all you are considered far right.

>> No.10348667

>>10347160
for my legionaries and growth of the soil

>> No.10348683

Gobineau

>> No.10348685

>>10348653
>implying I haven't
Read Land "faggot"

>> No.10348692

>>10348615

Plato was right-wing though.
For him hierarchy is justice.

>> No.10348697
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This guy. He was racist and anti-semitic.

>> No.10348698

>>10347562
LEL

>> No.10348710

>>10348615
>Plato
>not right-wing
???
uwotm8

>> No.10348711

>>10347343
The Winston Churchill of the alt-right.

>> No.10348721

>>10348661
>today's
Orwell's public image was a fake persona generated by his publisher, everybody who personally knew him said the same thing: the guy was authoritarian right-wing bully.

>> No.10348730

>>10348653
>Read the crypto-fascist Deleuze to understand Nietzsche wasn't far-right wing
compared to Deleuze I guess he wouldn't seem right-wing.

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10348735

>>10347307
>far-right
>twatter

>> No.10348800

>>10348619
Underrated truth right thur folks

>> No.10348817

>>10348475
>>10348488
>>10348618
Unironically he was 20 years ago, now he's unopposed to owning women as property and he's a race realist who is j-aware

>> No.10348826

>>10347160
is that actually logo? holy shit lol

>> No.10348827

>>10348817
>now he's unopposed to owning women as property
Is that why his woman is holding him by the balls?

>> No.10348911

>>10348826
why do you retards know him?
do niggers here actually use twitter unironically?

>> No.10349075
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Complete the system of German Idealism!

>> No.10349087

>>10349075
look how proud of himself is that little shit

>> No.10349249

>>10347275
>>10347300
>>10347307
>>10347321
>>10347341
>>10348201
>>10348374
>>10348374
>>10348433
>>10348441
>>10348826
>>10348911

Ok, is that him or not?

>> No.10349329

>>10347555
This.

>> No.10349340

>>10348911
Based on the quantity of fags that talk uber-gay (all lowercase, run-on sentences) a la Twitter, yes.

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>>10347722
He is able to bully the beta because he has empathy, what you think he lacks is sympathy, empathy and sympathy are different things. Being sympathetic towards weaklings that are able to improve themselves is the worst thing you can do, it encourages them to remain in their weakened state rather than improving. Sometimes you can be sympathetic and they will make an effort, but generally being a strong figure wakes them up faster and more effectively. If you can piss them off enough that they blame themselves, they will make the effort to improve.
I don't feel sympathetic towards betas, but I can still empathize with them.

>> No.10349459

>>10349446
very cool gif

>> No.10349479

>>10349249
It's not him, he has a southern accent. I think that's just friend of kantbot's.

>> No.10349567

>>10347160
Homo Erectus

>> No.10349626

>>10349479
https://twitter.com/Logo_Daedalus/status/936362348608196608

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There is no true intellectual who would be stupid enough to put himself into a 'wing.'

Do you want ideas or do you want labels? Choose!

>> No.10349637

>>10347160
>intellectual
>self described "left or right wing"
Oh I'm laughin

>> No.10349644

>>10349446
Agreed. Being kind to people you know have it in them to improve is the cruelest thing you can do. I'm still pissed at all the fags who indulged me in my teenage autist behaviour.

>> No.10349662

>>10348056
Writing for the New York Times hardly makes you an "intellectual". I am firmly third position but I have grudging respect for intellectuals no matter what their political stances are. Being an intellectual requires some sort of metaphysical curiousity, not just writing some sarcastic midwit prose about Drumpf, or rotely applying outdated statistics on voter data like an overglorified car mechanic.

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Should we really be trying to bullycide a proven bullycider?

Seems like a bad idea.

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>>10348056

Taleb was righ!

Intellectuals are do-nothing parasites.

>> No.10350089

>>10347160
who do you think are "Far-left intellectuals???"

>> No.10350129

>>10349662
>Writing for the New York Times hardly makes you an "intellectual"
the only morons who call themselves intellectuals are pseuds who write for magazines like the Atlantic

>> No.10350130

>>10350045
No problem being a snob, I'm a snob. Logo is just a pretentious low IQ Trumpist that writes bad poetry.

>> No.10350166

>>10350055
>real origin of technology is technology

>> No.10350242

>>10347343
Was this photoshopped? Why do some of their faces look malformed? Are these the typical /pol/ users?

>> No.10350243

>>10350055
This absolutely neglects the fact that most technology is driven by people who were indeed educated in the basic science, who then applied it in novel ways.

It's why for a long time the government funded basic science research at universities, while private business invested in applied technological research. And why corporations off-loading applied research onto universities is a problem.

>> No.10350279

>>10348074
> a rejection of left-wing intellectuals in favor of right-wing theory and intellectuals instead

So basically what you're saying is that they've traded Zizek, Eagleton, Harvey, Lefebvre, Agamben and Jameson for *squints eyes* ...Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson?

Yikes.

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>>10348121
>the right-wing has been effectively criminalized in the US since the end of WW2

>> No.10350316

>>10350279
the irony of citing agamben in a post where you say right wing intellectuals don't exist is amazing.

>> No.10350334

>>10350166
Once you begin to take that statement seriously, you will start understanding Land. Technology (AKA capitalism) is autocatalytic.

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>>10350316
>unironically implying that Agamben is a right wing intellectual

>> No.10350362

>>10350339
I didn't imply that at all, which is particularly funny because if you had actually ever read Agamben you'd knew that without Schmitt he wouldn't be as big as he is and you'd realize that my post was referring to that fact.

>> No.10350368

>>10347160
>far right
>intellectual
pick one

>> No.10350372

if you're willing to sort through content and look for stuff you're interested in, this youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZViJTyN0OXTTuPQ2mimNWw/videos)) has a broad selection of centrist or right of center intellectuals. there are some pop ones, like Jordan Peterson (who will be memed just like liberals meme Zizek), but there are also renowned classics professors who jsut talk about the decay of academic institutions because of leftism and such

>> No.10350441

>>10350362
Sorry, but I think you really mean Walter Benjamin.

Also, the implication wasn't that no right wing intellectuals have ever existed (though their numbers do indeed pale in comparison to left wing intellectuals and always have); the implication was that the contemporary right wing intellectuals that are now embraced (out of a reactionary rejection of left wing intellectuals) are actually intellectually bankrupt grifters (hence the use of Shapiro and Peterson as examples).

>> No.10350455

>>10347160
Julius Evola

>> No.10350476

>>10350441
>Sorry, but I think you really mean Walter Benjamin.
No, I mean Schmitt, who is central to one of Agamben's books.
>though their numbers do indeed pale in comparison to left wing intellectuals and always have
This is completely false. Most intellectuals throughout history fall one way or another under the right wing banner. Leftists can barely find anyone before modernity that echoes their sentiments and even after that, conservatives and classical liberals are extremely abundant.

>> No.10350482

>>10348056
And, frankly, there is nothing wrong with that.

Anti-intellectualism, after all, isn't a rejection of intelligence, no more than anticlericalism in the XIXth century was a rejection of religious behavior. It is a rejection of political rule by the intelligentsia.

Intellectuals in the last century have exhibited such a power hungry behavior that would make Genghis Khan and Tamerlane seem moderate by comparison. They are extremely jealous of rival power centres and want to having every single sphere of human existence under their control. Like some clerics of the XIXth century that anticlericals opposed. Anti-intellectualism, in this context, is being in the side of humanism.

I would even say that physical removal is warranted. It's better to kill a few hundred thousands intellectuals than let them acquire power and murder tens of millions like they did in Russia, China and Cambodia.

>> No.10350496

>>10350482
>I would even say that physical removal is warranted. It's better to kill a few hundred thousands intellectuals than let them acquire power and murder tens of millions like they did in Russia, China and Cambodia.

fukn rekt

>> No.10350509

Hmmm, they both look Jewish.

Really makes you think...

>> No.10350522

>>10349479
he doesn[t have a southern accent, you can hear him speak in a new podcast he started called"Bro Stuff", where he even jokes that he is head of the Brooklyn DSA...
why do you keep coming on here and telling falsehoods? this is the second time ive seen you saying he has a southern accent after someone asks is that him, which btw is totally irrelevant when talking about a picture...its odd.

>> No.10350546

>>10350522
Is that him? Are you sure?

>> No.10350547

>>10348692
>>10348710
That collectivist piece of human garbage is about as far from right-wing policies as possible, top-down is a thing of the left

>> No.10350565

>>10350547
How do you define right-wing? Individualism?

>> No.10350569

>>10350547
>Left is collectivist, right is individualist
Wrong

>> No.10350578

>>10347571
>Richard Spencer
>white nationalist leader
>jew

>> No.10350821

>>10350441
There is no contemporary right-wing movement. "White nationalists" are not right-wing.

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>>10350546
Logo_daedalus is the person in the red beanie in the Kantbot German idealism video.

>> No.10350853

>>10350482
The problem is that intellectual institutions are generally wielded against the majority of the public in the anglo world. It's easy to organize people against them and their supporters because these likely have legitimate grievances with t them.

>> No.10350985

>>10350840
Crypto-Jew.

>> No.10351027

>>10347301

Buckley was based, but he wasn't far right.

>> No.10351085

>>10349459
Seconded

>> No.10351099

>>10347160
>no Julius Evola
What the fuck?

>> No.10351319

ortega y gasset, if i read correctly no one suggested him yet. also rene guenon. mishima, leontiev and maurras. not strictly intellectuals but jmho something more. of COURSE start from nietzsche if you’re actually at zero.

>> No.10351327

>>10350821
>"White nationalists" are not right-wing

I know the discomfort of cognitive dissonance makes you and other other salt-lite turds repeat this ad nauseam, but repetition does not equal truth.

>> No.10351392

>>10351327
Any real Fascist or National-Socialist government would purge "White nationalists" lol. White Nationalists are losers and misfits and intellectual lightweights.

>> No.10351397

>>10350840
who posted this

>> No.10351428

>>10350547
>individualism, capitalism, homosexuality considered far right
the absolute state of the alt right

>> No.10351458

>>10350476
Schmitt is central to Agambens entire thought, it's strange Schmitt is more cited by Italians leftists today than he has anywhere else, they love his work

>> No.10351462

>>10351397
@logo_daedalus

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>>10350547

>> No.10351478

>>10351462
his pic I mean.

>> No.10351488

I'm sure logo is posting about this thread rn but lol if that's actually him. What a dweeb.

>> No.10351496

>>10351478
R. Cam

>> No.10351500

>>10348319
Wtf I love Marx now

>> No.10351551

>>10351458
is it me or italian leftist are incredibly reactionary?

>> No.10351558
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>>10347160
GK Chesterton
Hilaire Belloc
Patrick Pearse

>> No.10351560

>>10351458
Schmitt is more cited by leftists, period. The right has mostly forgotten him, which is sad and probably a huge reason why the right is so intellectually weak nowadays.

>> No.10351575

>>10348229
lol, get a load of this guy

>> No.10351578

>>10351560
You clearly don't read right-wing theory.

>> No.10351580

>>10348319
Yes, and Progressives advocated eugenics and Italian futurists supported fascism.

>> No.10351592

Ted Kaczynski

>> No.10351643

>>10351551
search Freda.
>Maoist: check.
>Mates with Evola: check.

>> No.10351653

>>10351327
tell me whats conservative about people advocating ethnic balkanization in a country that invented the term "melting pot"

>> No.10351682

>>10351653
A Jew invented the term "melting pot". Anyway White Nationalists are under the delusion that if you just switched out all of the coloreds in America for white people everything would be fine and dandy.

>> No.10351689

>>10347160
Carl Schmitt

>> No.10351713

>>10351682
how exactly is that right wing or left wing

>> No.10351726

>>10351713
White Nationalists are right-wing in the same way Social Democrats are left-wing

>> No.10351740

>>10351726
>>10351682

so youre not going to answer me, okay

>> No.10351745

>>10351740
What do you want answered? America as a country was never intended to be a "melting-pot".

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>>10351745

>> No.10351789

>>10351753
Don't know what that means, but I don't see how you could claim America was intended to be multi-racial in any way, except for maybe Anglo AND German and Dutch.

>> No.10351790

>>10350547
Why are Americans so fucking bad at politics?

>> No.10351808

>left/right dichotomy mixing with individualism/collectivism
>any hierarchy at all is collectivist

>> No.10351829

>>10347308
Great, great book, but not as a place to start.

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>Hi Anon! Ready to go pick some apples?

>> No.10351914

I really hate having a Twitter account, fortunately I have >100 followers.

>> No.10351940

>>10351914
I find that the only good accounts are found in the perfect intersection of salo, pubmed/mom blog health twitter and esoteric racist twitter.

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>>10351940
Jared Taylor Swift used to be good back in 2015 and early 2016, such a shame he was doxxed and has to hold back his views now.

>> No.10351967

>>10351940
menaquinone4 had extremely good content until his account got axed, sadly his quality's declined since then

>> No.10351973

>>10351967
Yes, him, Hakan, crypt, camacho all good.

Note that all these have ties to salo

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>>10350547
>right-wing is all about muh freedom

>> No.10352154

>>10347209
He was actually so far left that leftists think he's right wing

>> No.10352165

>>10351967
he has become more generic and brand oriented

>> No.10352169

>>10352154
also the criticism of the left is extremely targeted at liberals

>> No.10352232

>>10347160
>Far right
>intellectuals
/pol/ plz

>> No.10352282

>>10347160
Who is this guy?

>> No.10352286

>>10352232
go back to leftypol.

>> No.10352295

>>10348692
>>10348710
>Giving a post-FR figure a FR terminology
right wingers are fucking stupid

>> No.10352306

>>10352295
>post-FR
pre-FR

>> No.10352320

>>10347340
What the fuck are you talking about? How is Pessoa right-wing at all?

>>10347161
>being old = right wing
Both Plato and Aristotle are antithetical to conservative, capitalist and christian philosophies. But especially Aristotle.

>>10348051
Most of those were fascists, not right-wingers.
Right-wing has always been associated with grass-roots populism, with appealing to the average Joe and antagonizing the fancy, effeminate, arrogant academics who over-complicate things. What's wrong with good old american values?!

>> No.10352322

>>10352306
>>10352295
you cant use terms invented in the present, which define timeless concepts (hierarchy, equality, etc), to extrapolate conclusions about the past you stupid /pol/tard dudebro racist nazis!!!! i am extremely smart and not a brainlet! everything is chronological you maga chuds

>> No.10352323

>>10347700
None of them are Hitler worshippers

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>>10352320
>Both Plato and Aristotle are antithetical to conservative, capitalist and christian philosophies. But especially Aristotle.
>He actually believes this

>> No.10352335

>>10352322
>mfw the only argument made is 'YOU ARE SILLY' post
>which define timeless concepts (hierarchy, equality, etc),
Wew lad

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>>10352335
concepts that, infosar as attempted organizations of society and humanity are concerned, can be applied (one or the other) indiscriminately. actually fucking read a book for once and you can get any idea, given the author ponders how things ought to be or the problems in the way things are, whether they are for egalitarianism or rightism. Plato wasnt egalitarian, so stop embarrassing yourself so hard.

>> No.10352357

>>10352331
Have you read either of them?

I swear, fucking Christians who misread Plato and Aristotle are the lowliest form of human life.

>> No.10352361

>>10348604
Too misogynistic to be part of white women worshipping far right

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>>10352357
when will you move out, fatass?

>> No.10352378

>>10352350
And hierarchy and equality have been redefined and debated over the years. Just because right wing ideology borrows a lot from Plato (>implying) doesn't mean the later belongs exclusively to the former

>Plato wasnt egalitarian
Gain some reading comprehension before you embarrass yourself because I never implied that

>> No.10352379

>>10347160
"Logo" looks like the kinda guy who peaked in 11th grade and hasn't gone outside since

>> No.10352392

>>10352378
under what definition of "equality" is Plato in avocation of it above hierarchy and inequality, you owned loser?

>> No.10352397

>>10352379
Face it, you're just jealous of his high IQ.

>> No.10352410

>Far right
>Intellectual
Is this a meme?

>> No.10352412

>>10352392
Misreading my post even more. Equality became to be about equality of opportunity vs outcome, gender and racial equality that Plato did not consider in detail nor anticipated. Stop this history revisionism to give your brand of right wing ideology an air of intellectualism it never had

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>>10347160
Oh yeah, he seems like a real renaissance man.

>> No.10352421

>>10352412
>quality became to be about equality of opportunity vs outcome, gender and racial equality that Plato did not consider in detail nor anticipated.
never denied that. ironic. answer the question.

>your brand of right wing ideology an air of intellectualism it never had
my brand? that's awfully presumptuous.

>> No.10352422

>>10352350
>Plato wasnt egalitarian
I'm going to ignore the fact that you're conflating egalitarianism with leftism and elitism with rightism (Christianity is a radically egalitarian doctrine, and pseudo-meritocratic capitalism presupposes an egalitarian ideology), Socrates was strikingly egalitarian for a Greek. It follows from his ontology that, although no two souls are the same, the value and beauty of each is independent of social class, race or blood ties. See: his conversation with the illiterate slave child, in which he proves the boy carried within him the knowledge of geometry, and therefore had a philosophical soul.

Should I remind you that Socrates advocated for public, universal education?

>>10352376
I live in a student dorm.

>> No.10352430

>>10352422
HAHAHAHAHA
go to bed, pimple face. your mom's hollering from upstairs.

>> No.10352434

>>10352421
Then answering the question won't defeat my argument so why bother? :^)

>that's awfully presumptuous
Considering you are sperging out from my post about Plato not being right wing it is a good assumption

>> No.10352447

>>10352434
i'll say "plato was for hierarchy", and you'll deny that there are sufficient definitions to ascribe him as anything, which is whats been going on so far. what i'm saying should be immediately obvious to anyone that's read him, and there's no incentive to put much effort to your autistic fit of an argument, so whatever.

>>10352422
>(Christianity is a radically egalitarian doctrine
some interpretations, hence christian socialism and christian anarchism. others not so much. the other point is too silly to address.

>> No.10352454

>>10352430
>anime reaction faces
>only responds with sardonic insults
>0 arguments in the whole thread
>not a single line written in earnest
Wow.

>> No.10352459

>>10352447
Unfortunately describing the argument so far is not an argument.

>that there are sufficient definitions to ascribe him as anything
Nope I didn't say you idiot, it said it is pointless to ascribe a label that existed for a era beyond his own. Any other label can make sense, but definitely not right winger (or left winger).

>> No.10352745

>>10352415
Bet these guys get a lot of dopamine points from all the likes they get on their epic memes

>> No.10352761

>>10347300
first spacegiko and now this?

>> No.10352775

>>10349446
there should never be an ethical injunction to be cruel

>> No.10352793

>>10352761
Wait until you see Bronze Age Pervert.

>> No.10352803

>>10352793
Is he not a handsome brazilian surfer boy? I guess he would be approaching 40 though so maybe not so handsome anymore, but then again mediterranean lifestyle will keep years off.

>> No.10352810

>>10350130
god it is bad, isn't it?

>> No.10352827

>>10351967
na mena was never good. only good account is spicy pepsi

>> No.10352829

>>10352793
ugh, I hate that guy...

reminds me of how much I like Michael Porforio, though. I don't even care if he turns out to be a fat nerd like the rest of em, he's a genuinely funny guy with real personality

>> No.10352837

>>10352829
The one you see on twitter is not the real guy. For one he pretends to be American and a Trump supporter on there.

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>>10352422

>his conversation with the illiterate slave child, in which he proves the boy carried within him the knowledge of geometry, and therefore had a philosophical soul

Sprodigns''s's me?

>> No.10352844

>>10352837
Though what is funny about this twitter persona is that you now see Pleasureman suck his dick, while previously BAP has been banned from MPC like 5 times for being too racist and far right.

>> No.10352983

>>10352803
>>10352837
BAP is brazilian? I thought he was just a guy that lived in Brazil for a while.

>> No.10353086

>>10352844
What? I thought pleasureman hated him.

>> No.10353099

>>10349446
It's 2017, "empathy" just means "agree with me and do what I say because otherwise I think I will feel bad".

>> No.10353117

>>10352793
BAP is the handsomest man alive

>> No.10353184

>>10348056
Do you think these "intellectuals" get their political views by scientific inquiry? Multiculturalism is somehow scientific? Not really.

>> No.10353253

>>10352983
I wouldn't be surprised. The only country more overrepresented than Brazil in the dissident right is Croatia.

>> No.10353308

>>10350279
> heh, i think this list of shabbos sociologists validates my political views

Where would you be without charismatic ingroup dogma

>> No.10353340

>>10348441
t. logo

>> No.10353347

>>10350279
>Eagleton
>An intellectual
yikes

>> No.10353357

>>10352422
>The person who trained tyrants to overthrow democracy was more egalitarian than the average Greek
Ok

>> No.10353387

>>10353086
Well, at least there was a time where he sucked his dick for his epic twitter posts.
>>10352983
He is definitely not American.
>>10353253
ah yes, a fellow salotrean

>> No.10353580

>>10352320
>Right-wing has always been associated with grass-roots populism, with appealing to the average Joe and antagonizing the fancy, effeminate, arrogant academics who over-complicate things. What's wrong with good old american values?!

>Muh amerish*rt definition of right-wing thought as a populist ideology

>> No.10353621

>>10353387
always just assumed he was a surfer chad from california lol

>> No.10353628

>the bald guy was undergoing chemo, obviously too weak to fight even this dweeb
Wow what a bad person

>> No.10353640

>>10353621
It should be clear even from his syntax that he is very likely not a native english speaker. Though I see how it might not be clear if your only exposure to him is through twitter.

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Apparently the starting works are WWE games

>> No.10353663

>>10353650
>Starts with the Penguin Classics
The fuck /leftypol/?

>> No.10353668

>>10348697
>The Jewish nigger Lassalle who, I’m glad to say, is leaving at the end of this week, has happily lost another 5,000 talers in an ill-judged speculation.
Was he always /ourguy/?

>> No.10353675

>>10351099
You seem to have stumbled onto a shitposting thread that's lasted for far beyond its due expiration date, courtesy of the benign neglect of our dutiful jannies.

>> No.10353678

>>10353650
>/leftypol/ starts with a strawman
Correct

>> No.10353684

>>10352320
>Plato and Aristotle are antithetical to conservative
>Aristotle
>antithetical to conservative philosophies
Aristotle is literally considered the forefather to conservatism.

>> No.10353723

>>10353650
I would like to know what "researched and investigated" turns one to socialist economics and tabula rasa theories

>> No.10353731

>>10347161
How is God right wing?

>> No.10353744

>>10348193
>distinguishing characteristics

which are?

>> No.10353752

These threads are always fucking pathetic and filled with butthurt alt-right faggots who think they're victims.

>> No.10353766

>>10353752
This. These people couldn't last a day as a Person of Color

>> No.10353774

>>10353766
They're just unwanted losers who feel better whining about other people causing their problems than addressing their own failings.

>> No.10353785

>>10353766
>These people couldn't last a day as a Person of Color
Are you writing another article on theses threads Mr. Guardian Intern?

>> No.10353818

>>10353774
>sounds just like the nogs and other assorted miscreants

>> No.10353831

> far
> intellectual
Pick one

>> No.10353842

>>10352320
Pessoa was a nationalist mystic, you retarded american

>> No.10353851

>>10352320
>Aristotle are antithetical to conservative
Yes, the guy who served as the ground for thomism and virtue ethics is antithetical to conservatism.
This is your brain on leftypol

>> No.10353859

>>10353744
wanting people to respect you, indentifying with people similar to yourself, tendency to become complacent and less determined during times of great amenity

of course, it's not this black-and-white, and there's variation between ethnicities and cultures
(not him)

>> No.10353861

>>10352320
>populism is right wing
You're no better than a leftist.

>> No.10353865

>>10352320
fucking yanks i swear

>> No.10353870

>>10347622
no Rand?

>> No.10353871

>>10353818
Except the nogs have an excuse.

>> No.10353876

>>10353871
Yas Yas, muh oppression.
You're not getting better at the b8, Guardianista.

>> No.10353881

>>10347633
>Lovecraft and Lord of the Rings
For fucks sake there has to be english language rightist fiction that isn't fantasy.

>> No.10353886

>>10353752
Yeah, only the certain groups specified by academics can can have legitimate gripes with the world around them. What do these people think they're doing?

>> No.10353897

>>10353876
Well not oppression but poverty mainly. Even from a white supremacist perspective the fact that their niggers is excuse enough surely? No white man should be as pathetic as nigger should he? If he is then surely he's hardly worth much.

>> No.10353903

>>10351789
I'm irish mostly. should I go back to ireland?

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>>10353886
I've no issue with anyone having problems with the world. I've an issue with their unending victim complex and simultaneous complaints about everyone else having a victim complex. They act like the most put upon group on the planet despite being middle class momma's boys who are just lonely and depressed and acting out.

>> No.10353906

>>10351789
They literally imported millions of black people against their will and are now unhappy there are so many black people. Really gets the noggin joggin

>> No.10353910

>>10353903
no, they only want Nigerians now.
>>10353906
>they
what did he mean by "those people"?

>> No.10353915

>>10353897
The B-W IQ gap exists on all socioeconomic levels; think again, buddy

>> No.10353916

>>10348182
read a biology book, you might find out

>> No.10353917

>>10353897
>Well not oppression but poverty mainly
More white people live in poverty than black people in the US.

>> No.10353919

>>10353910
Friendly reminder that the vast majority of slave ships were run by gentiles, and no amount of revisionism will change that.

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>>10353917
in terms of number or proportion of their respective populations?
the former is meaningless because there are more white people in the US period, while the latter would be meaningful

>> No.10353926

>>10353904
>I've no issue with anyone having problems with the world. I've an issue with their unending victim complex and simultaneous complaints about everyone else having a victim complex.
I don't think ite as much of a victim complex as much as it is them growing up in a world which powerful powerful groups are making hostile towards s them (and no, I don't mean jews). The loneliness and depression a just a consequence of this, and your dismissive attitude only proves their point.

>> No.10353933

>>10353919
So a minority of the population imports slaves and somehow everyone's descendants are responsible? That would be a swell argument to apply in everyday life

>> No.10353941

>>10353926
It is as much of a victim complex as those that they complain about constantly playing the victim.

>> No.10353944

>>10353925
careful, friendo, if you admit to the existence of per capita stats, you may be forced to admit that blacks commit an enormously disproportionate fraction of total criminal activity

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Kantbot, the pseud: fat, rambling, uses irony to disguise lack of knowledge, stuck in the past

Akira, the true intellectual: Mens sana in corpore sano, cephalopod intelligence, forward-looking

>> No.10353953

>>10353944
>poor people commit more crime

thanks genius

>> No.10353956

>>10353941
A major difference is that minorities want the ebil whyte elites to pander to them and bless them with gibs, whereas I don't hear pol ask the same from Jews or whatever elites

>> No.10353957

>>10353941
Can't exactly blame them when their desired reforms directly contradict those of their opposition. It's important to be dismissive of the other side.

>> No.10353961

>>10353953
>rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites
damn... what now........

>> No.10353965

>>10353953
poor whites commit considerably less crime, dum-dum

>> No.10353966
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10353966

>>10353933
I know. I thought you were doing that thing where white nationalists accuse jews of doing things that non-jews were predominantly guilty of, which strikes me as particularly niggery, because it follows the same logic of "white guy did this, so white people did this".

>>10353944
>you disagreed with me on 4chan so you're multiculti
point to where I said races were equal, please.

>> No.10353967

>>10353640
His portuguese is not really good either.

>> No.10354004

>>10353966
that was my only reply to you, don't know about whatever other guys here

>> No.10354056

>>10352745
did you get a dopamine point from this (you)?

>> No.10354057

>>10353967
I've suspected that he might be Argentine or something.

>> No.10354061

>>10354057
Probably a fat WOC larping.

>> No.10354239

>>10352320
you are that mises-hayek baiter from last week, aren't you