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[Anonymous No.10329807]

ITT: Good advice you actually received from /lit/

[Anonymous No.10329816]

>>10329807
S T A R T

[Anonymous No.10329851]

>>10329816
T H I S S

[Anonymous No.10329868]

>>10329807
become catholic

[Anonymous No.10329882]

Post Lit related memes.

[Anonymous No.10329883]

>>10329807
Don't actually read books. It's such a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.10329886]

>>10329868
I second that advice

[Anonymous No.10329891]

"you should fill this prescription, because you have pneumonia"

[Anonymous No.10329892]

>>10329807
just do it

[Anonymous No.10329907]

Tight pink boipucci is the best cure for writer's block.

[Anonymous No.10329909]

>>10329807
Read the stickie

[Anonymous No.10329976]

>>10329807
Read a book?

>>10329883
pls leave, I'd rather discuss a book with a /pol/lack than someone who hasn't actually read the book.

[Anonymous No.10329987]

>>10329976
But you never notice anyway. Many of you even take my advice. Lel.

[Anonymous No.10330003]

>>10329976
/pol/acks don't even read infographs nowadays

[Anonymous No.10330006]

>>10329807
If you're planning on a large project make sure to write every day so you don't fall into the abyss.

[Anonymous No.10330077]

>>10329987
I notice when you casually drop that bit of information in threads like these. It happens often enough that i expect it.
kill your self you literal psuedo-intellectual.

[Anonymous No.10330079]

>>10329807
Read Culture of Critique.

[Anonymous No.10330085]

>>10329868
a period of sincere, uncontrived Catholicism in a man's life is necessary for any understanding of human nature, life, culture and the arts...

[Anonymous No.10330088]

>>10329882

>>10329868

[Anonymous No.10330094]

>>10329907
that is the opposite of a twink

[Anonymous No.10330097]

>>10329892
The Tiger
He broke his cage
Yes
YES
The Tiger is free

[Anonymous No.10330098]

>>10329807
Don't self publish. Whatever you do. Don't self publish.

[Anonymous No.10330100]

>>10330097
t. age 6

[Anonymous No.10330101]

I don't ever really get to bring this up, but I've received a lot of great recommendations from /lit/ including my all time favourite book, The Recognitions by William Gaddis. Also, shout out to the anon that posted pic related in a "recent purchases" thread a couple of months ago. This, along with Jessie Weston's From Ritual to Romance have been the source of many discoveries for which I will forever be thankful.

[Anonymous No.10330105]

>>10329807
Start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.10330113]

>>10329807
start with the Greeks was the best fucking literary advice I ever got anywhere. and pretty much the only good advice i've read on this board

[Anonymous No.10330128]

>>10330097
>retarded to the point he manages to spoil a perfect 12 word poem
Now that's talent.

[Anonymous No.10330136]

>>10330128
>being this new
It's like you literally weren't even here yesterday

[Anonymous No.10330157]

/lit/ hasn't given me much good advice, but the sliver of good literary discussion that goes on here helps to off-set the fact that I know literally no one who reads beyond a high school level right now, and that even casually mentioning some of the ideas and topics I get genuinely excited about is enough to make people laugh under their breath or smile and nod politely until the topic returns to whatever fucking 1980's culture rehash popular entertainment has decided to churn out this week.

[Anonymous No.10330159]

>>10329868
This is legitimately fantastic advice

[Anonymous No.10330164]

>>10330098
Please can you tell me a bit more on this topic?

[Anonymous No.10330166]

>>10330003
Nah that’s just neo-/pol/ and T_D fags.

/SIG/ and /NSG/ usually have great book discussions.

[Anonymous No.10330189]

>>10329868
along the lines of this, catholic priests are amazing mentors and far better for your mental health (and wallet) than most therapists.

[Anonymous No.10330207]

>>10330189
That's cause they're actually smart and have a theology/philosophy background

[Anonymous No.10330253]

>>10330166
of what, mein kampf lmao
I bet those faggots don't even read Pound

[Anonymous No.10330265]

>>10330094
That is the literal definition of a twink.

[Anonymous No.10330274]

>>10330136
Is "you're new" the new "you're reddit" panic button among underage?

[Anonymous No.10330303]

>>10330274
this is some pretty elaborate bait desu senpai

[Anonymous No.10330318]

>>10330303
>he goes full panic and tries to fit in maximum amount of ebyn memewords in one sentence
Why?

[Anonymous No.10330328]

>>10329868
I would, but I like sleeping in on Sundays.

[Anonymous No.10330524]

>>10330164
No one, and I mean NO ONE, will read your book unless you have a fanbase that you can convince to meme your book into popularity.

[Anonymous No.10330526]

>>10329807
Read Gravity's Rainbow. I thought it was my dad that told me about it first. Turns out it was /lit/

[Anonymous No.10330528]

>>10330189
and your boipussy too

[Anonymous No.10330537]

>>10329976
Really? I think a conversation with someone from presumably the third world and who is presumably illiterate might be intriguing

[Anonymous No.10330541]

>>10330085
t. i larped as a Catholic for three months

[Anonymous No.10330543]

>>10330100
Age
Yes
YES
It is just a number

[Anonymous No.10330544]

>/lit/ is actually full of Catholics now

I'll bet half of you are haughty Thomists in the bargain

[Anonymous No.10330547]

>>10330097
>broke
>free
Why do pseuds always pretend they've read Nael?

[Anonymous No.10330552]

>>10330526
subtle

[Anonymous No.10330561]

>>10330537
As to study their primitive ways?

[Anonymous No.10330587]

>>10329807
Moby Dick, Oxford Annotated Bible

[Anonymous No.10330604]

>>10329868
Becoming catholic will only ease your lack of discipline and purpose for a short while, you will eventually fall back into your old habits

t. fell for the convert meme a decade before any of you

[Anonymous No.10330609]

>>10330541
Obviously I'm not Catholic anymore if I talk about it like that, but I did specify 'sincere'. Don't call me a larper anon :(

[Anonymous No.10330616]

>>10330524
Oh. I that all? Well That's fine. I control reality. I'll be living modestly with my with in the hills by the time I'm 65. You'll see faggot.

[Anonymous No.10330619]

>>10330189
Totally. My college chaplain has offered me fantastic guidance while the college counsellor has given me nothing else but "mindfulness" aka the art of avoiding bad thoughts.

>>10330328
Most Catholic churches have 3 masses on Sunday, one of which happens in the evening

>>10330604
>became Catholic
>gave up
>"Being Catholic won't solve your problems"

:^)

[Anonymous No.10330627]

>>10330619
Still a catholic lad

[Anonymous No.10330629]

>>10330189
implying priests won't refer you to a psychiatrist if you need psychiatric help
the eunuch's jurisdiction should know where it ends.......

[Anonymous No.10330638]

>>10330265
not skinny enough, thats called a twunk

[Anonymous No.10330644]

>>10330627
Oh nice brother nice

[Anonymous No.10330768]

>>10330609
>I'm not Catholic anymore
>'sincere'
Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.10330771]

>>10329807
>Leave this board
I usually come back after half a week, but I get more reading done in that time.

[Anonymous No.10330786]

>>10330085
Fedora

[Anonymous No.10330800]

>>10329868
>tfw live in protestant country and all the catholic priests here are con-artists and scammers

[Anonymous No.10330809]

>>10330800
Amerikkka? I'm in Australia (mostly Anglicans and Catholics, but there's a bunch of others) and our Catholic services seem boring and white-washed with liberalism anyway. I'd never join a church, but I'm religiously curious myself.

[Anonymous No.10330812]

>>10330768
Are you implying that a devout believer can't stir from the path, anon? And, jeez, who are you to get offended? You say "fuck you" while admonishing my use of the word sincere, as if I was compromising your own faith.

[Anonymous No.10330813]

>>10330809
Norway. Might larp as a buddhist in the future.

[Anonymous No.10330817]

>>10330809
There's Latin mass services in Australia if you want the Deluxe Traditional experience.

[Anonymous No.10330824]

>>10330809
Australian Cath here too. My local church is Jesuit, so it suffers from that problem though. The homilies are generally quite good, but the style of mass is very modern. Try find a church run by Dominicans, they're generally quite traditional

[Anonymous No.10330825]

>>10329868
How do you decide between Catholic or Orthodox?

[Anonymous No.10330833]

>>10330809
>>10330824
There is just so many issues with the Catholic church. Going to a protestant service is so less uptight and formal. Just some bloke talking about the the bible and nothing else. Far better for someone interested in the scripture aspect only

>went to a sermon of a friend of mine. He literally spoke about the stoics, epicureans and name dropped David foster wallace

[Anonymous No.10330839]

>>10330833
But Church isn't just about getting some wisdom from the preacher, but it's also about communing with God, to which rituals are essential. My girlfriend is Baptist and I don't get attacked by grace at her masses like I do at Catholic masses. But perhaps that's just me. Admittedly I'm a bit of a masochist when it comes to these things, but Protestant masses often feel kind of empty to me, lacking as they do the mystic element that makes Cathodox so compelling.

[Anonymous No.10330841]

>>10330839
I go to an Anglican church and we say the creeds, confess and do communion. It is a very nice compromise. I just feel no allegiance to the pope or maybe i would be catholic.

[Anonymous No.10330842]

>>10330839
I personally don't think it's meant to be about rituals and I personally see them as false worship

I understand how the Catholic church was formed and respect it, but I feel like it has been ruined by mortal men

Protestantism gives me the tools to worship just fine

[Anonymous No.10330858]

>>10330841
>feel no allegiance to the Pope

Totally fair. Part of the reason why I find it quite easy to trust the Pope is becausw the last three we've had have been so good (JP2 is mah boi). If I'm honest the reason I'm a Catholic is 1) I was born into it, and 2) I haven't had a reason to leave yet--though there have been times when Anglicanism or Orthodoxy have appealed to me.

I hope my post before didn't make it sound like I don't like Prottys. I love you guys.

[Anonymous No.10330861]

>>10330842
Do you think rituals are false in all cases, or just when they're done mechanically? Because I'm wary of mechnical worship too, which is why I avoid recitation.

[Anonymous No.10330862]

>>10329816
Someone actually told me here once
>Step One - Buy some Nike's.
>Step Two - Lace them up.
>Step Three - Just fucking do it, you sperg.

And so I did.

[Anonymous No.10330868]

Become Confucian

[Anonymous No.10330873]

>>10330861
Pretty much. Also the community aspect of church, a huge part a lot of cultures (northern Ireland) seems to only come about by joining the club by doing begruding rituals

Instead of coming together for a community meeting first and foremost to which you find faith and guidance in the scripture

[Anonymous No.10330876]

>>10330552
I don't get it?

[Anonymous No.10330879]

>>10330858
Thanks. I have liked the last few popes a lot as well.

[Anonymous No.10330899]

>>10330876
the thread says "good advice you actually recieved from /lit/", which means this thread is about good advice you thought came from another source that you later realized was from /lit/.

[Anonymous No.10331294]

>>10329868
/bread

[Anonymous No.10331737]

>>10329907
Having one is

[Anonymous No.10331745]

>>10329807
Don't rewrite and don't get hung up on planning. Just write, and if the finished work isn't what you expected that can be for the best.

[Anonymous No.10332107]

>>10330619
>"mindfulness" aka the art of avoiding bad thoughts.
Mindfulness is the avoidance of all reflective thought.

[Anonymous No.10332112]

>>10331745
>Actual good advice in the good advice thread.

[Anonymous No.10332517]

>>10330868
Become Taoist

[Anonymous No.10333578]

>>10329868
But the church in the USA seems absolutely hellbent on letting everyone from Mexico/Central/South America into the country because they know that attendance is waning among U.S. whites and instead of doing something to fix that they just ignore it and want open borders. It's the Christian thing to be welcoming to guests, of course, but to openly celebrate population replacement and promote illegal immigration doesn't seem very appealing to me as someone who has watched the demographics of my region drastically change in a very short period of time.

[Anonymous No.10333608]

>>10333578
We're all brothers under Christ.

[Anonymous No.10333617]

>>10333578
>>10333608
Catholics are universalists, anon. It's right in the name. You can't be both an ethnic nationalist and a Catholic. You will have to give one up eventually.

[Anonymous No.10333622]

>>10333617
Tell that to 20th century popes.

[Anonymous No.10333628]

>>10329868
You meme fucks just blow around in whatever wind happens to be blowing. Have some intellectual dignity.

[Anonymous No.10333631]

when you're writing, first write it physically out, then type. When typing you will notice grammar, logic holes, and plot holes.

[Anonymous No.10333632]

>>10333608
>>10333617
Why can't we be brothers in different countries? Why do the brothers who drive without licenses or car insurance have to move to my neighborhood?

[Anonymous No.10333637]

>>10333632
Christianity is a cuck ideology

[Anonymous No.10333657]

>>10329807
kill yourself and start with the greeks

[Anonymous No.10333662]

>>10330868
yes!

[Anonymous No.10333782]

>>10333637
Lol christfags btfo'd. Have an upvote muh dood.

[Anonymous No.10334352]

>>10330629
i mean if you have some real trauma like attempted murder, childhood rape, and other heavy shit like that, a psychiatrist might be better equipped to give you methods to help cope with that, but if you don't have anything heavy but still feel some form of existential dread or lack of meaning in your life, that is where priests shine most.

[Anonymous No.10334372]

>>10330113
>>10330105
Alright, give me the quick rundown of greek shit and I'll start.

[Anonymous No.10334547]

>>10329868
>huh
>tfw I can realistically see this as good advice

[Anonymous No.10336173]

None

[Anonymous No.10336368]

>>10329868
Objectively correct answer

[Anonymous No.10337837]

I wouldn't have read Evola without this place

[Anonymous No.10338345]

>>10334372
alrighty, here you go. effortpost incoming

go in this order:

Edith Hamilton's Mythology or the Bibliotheca by Apollodorus. these are books all about the Greek pantheon so you know who all these gods and heroes are that future stories refer to. personally I found the Bibliotheca to be rambling at times, but it was written during actual Greek history. hamilton's mythology was written in the 40's and is more like a straightforward compendium of the Greek pantheon (as well as some Roman and Norse gods) and is far easier to comprehend because it's more modern. I personally recommend Hamilton for the newcomer unless you're a big history buff.

after that, pick up the Iliad and the Odyssey. the Iliad is probably the greatest piece of fiction ever made by man. the Iliad is about war, and the glory and tragedy of human nature. the Odyssey is no slouch either. As far as translation, I greatly prefer Fagles' simply because it's beautifully written, but Lattimore's is more exact and specific. i've heard the opposite said just as well, so read some samples, because either one is good, largely personal preference.

if you want to learn more about the specific history before you jump into the Iliad, read The Trojan War: A New History. i personally think it's optional though, as the most powerful moments of the story still come to shine. the Odyssey is much more like a modern fictional novel so you don't need to be as well-versed in Greek history to fully understand it.

next up is the three Oedipus plays by Sophocles translated by Paul Roche. read in this order; Oedipus Rex, Oedipus at Colonus, and Antigone. it's a bunch of plays about a dude seeking knowledge that ends up fucking his mom.

now let's middle between fiction and nonfiction by reading The Histories by Herodotus, who traveled across Greece to weave together a version of the Persian war from all of the accounts and fables that he's heard from all of the various city-states.

let's dive into full-blown nonfiction with Plato. Plato was the smartest man that ever lived, as was his mentor, Socrates. read Euthypro, Apology, Phaedo, Crito, and Meno to get a good background of Plato, then read The Republic, arguably his greatest work that still sends ripples through Western political thought to this very day.

After Plato you should go on to his pupil, Aristotle, and read Metaphysics, Nicomachean Ethics, Politics, and Poetics, and these, too, forever shaped Western thought.

I heartily encourage you to read the rest of the plays by Sophocles and the rest of the works written by Plato and Aristotle but what I've given is pretty much what I would consider the "bare minimum" of the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.10338430]

>>10330638
Fav'ing this post.

[Anonymous No.10338778]

>>10338345
Hey, original anon who asked for the rundown.

Honestly, I didn't expect a reply of any quality, but deep down I wanted an entry. The fact I got exactly what I wanted, in great detail and effort from you is appreciated anon. Thank you for taking your time to write out your thoughts on resources, order, and small descriptors.

I really am going to read greek literature now, it's something I've been putting off, but you've made both my night and my next few months with this. You've made a difference to me. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.10338955]

>>10338778
your post warmed my heart, anon, and i'm very happy to see amidst all of these horrible /pol/ rejects slouching around on this board, there's still people here that are enthusiastic about reading. i'm more than happy to help out.

if you ever want to read any more Greek stuff, here's the list that I pretty much started off with.

also, Mortimer Adler put a really comprehensive reading list at the end of his "how to read a book" that you can find here that has all of the Greek classics there too if you want to go further:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Read_a_Book#Reading_list_.281972_edition.29

have fun anon, wish you all the best on your wonderful journey.

[Anonymous No.10338992]

>>10338345
>>10338955

Wow! I saved both of these posts. People like you are why I browse /lit/. Please continue to put this much effort into your posting. It makes the board a better place. You really seem to have a genuine curiosity for learning, and are well-read yourself. Thank you again for sharing. I’m not even the anon that asked. I’m about a fourth of the way through Hamitlon’s Mythology and already feel like I’ve learned a good deal. Excited to see where this journey takes me!

[Anonymous No.10339026]

>>10330619
>my college chaplain offered me fantastic guidance

Was that before or after you sucked his dick?

[Anonymous No.10339028]

>>10339026
before AND after

[Anonymous No.10339041]

>>10339028
Was the guidance related to the art of the fellatio too?

>suck my dick anon
>no not like that, let me guide you
>oh now you're working it

[Anonymous No.10339119]

>>10330619
>>10332107
Mindfulness isn't avoiding bad thoughts, it's the opposite. It's about noticing your thoughts, and reflecting on them, and being comfortable with them.

[Anonymous No.10339280]

>>10338345
Thanks for the good post anon

[Anonymous No.10339408]

>>10329868
cant believe no one is calling out the mystery cult of modern catholicism

there migiht be some good people in there who are trying to figure stuff out but the doctrine is fantastical and bizzare

just study the bible desu