/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10314509]

Wil this become the best book in the self help "genre"?

[Anonymous No.10314514]

It's philosophy not self-help

[Anonymous No.10314661]

>>10314509
Jordan Peterson is a fucking mongolid. I wouldn’t wipe my ass with his pathetic excuse for “self help.”

[Anonymous No.10314678]

>>10314661
t. unsorted soyboy with a dragon of chaos in his uncleaned room

[Anonymous No.10314697]

>>10314661
Lmao this, he's like a snakeoil salesman who deals in betamale-bait

[Anonymous No.10314698]

>>10314661

Sort your room, rescue your father and slay the cat-bird-snake, faggot.

[Anonymous No.10314709]

>>10314509
Is this the guy who cried on webcam when he was associated with the alt right?

if so, please post the video

[Anonymous No.10314751]

>>10314509
what is it about him that triggers this board do much?
serious answers only pls. can anyone even articulate why they dislike him beyond the 'clean room father figure jungian dragon slaying anti postmodern man'?
i just don't see what he says that is such an issue and the hate for him here is outright neurotic

[Anonymous No.10314762]

>>10314751
>looks at the comment section on his youtube videos

I wonder why

[Anonymous No.10314903]

does anyone know what the 12 rules are?

[Anonymous No.10314909]

>>10314751
His fan base consists of fascists, misogynists and boorish /pol/ types.

I personally really like the guy though.

[Anonymous No.10314917]

>>10314509
>Wil this become the best book in the self help "genre"?

yes. it will do the literature equivalent of winning the special olympics, although "7 habits..." and "how to win friends....." are still running strong

[Anonymous No.10314921]

>>10314751
Nothing he's said has any value whatsoever. His attempts to "destroy" postmodernism are just pathetic, showing no evidence he's actually read the thinkers involved and quickly digressing into areas that aren't postmodernism at all. Just a worthless speaker and writer.

[Anonymous No.10314925]

>>10314751
I think it's similar to Rick and Morty hate. It's more of a hatred for the sub-100 IQ fan base. I guess you could get something out of Peterson though, like book recommendations. Rick and Morty is pure, unadulterated trash

[Anonymous No.10314945]

>>10314909
When has a fan base really determined your interest in a subject? He's just a psych prof who was ahead of the internet curve and uploaded his videos. It's no wonder so many ideologically fueled neckbeards latched onto him, none of them had a dad.
>>10314921
Have you read any of Maps of Meaning? Holy shit you're delusional bucko.

[Anonymous No.10315074]

>>10314945
>Have you read any of Maps of Meaning? Holy shit you're delusional bucko.
Why would i read that trash when i had read Jung already?

[Anonymous No.10315081]

One of the advice is literally "Pet a cat if you see one" and "Let kids do skateboarding"

[Anonymous No.10315085]

>>10315081
Not that i doubt you but, proof?

[Anonymous No.10315086]

He's a scam.

[Anonymous No.10315095]

>>10315081
>It doesn't sound smart or profound so it isn't good advice

neck yourself brainlet

[Anonymous No.10315103]

>>10315081
lmao. Post excerpt

[Anonymous No.10315105]

[Anonymous No.10315118]

>>10315095
>the book have the subtitle "an antidote to chaos"
>is grandma tier advice
woaah

[Anonymous No.10315134]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tizCBNhsTeE
such an intellectual giant

[Anonymous No.10315135]

>>10315118
>assuming Chaos is a bad thing in the first place
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.10315140]

>>10315105
I thought the 'dragon' thing was a meme to make fun of him.

[Anonymous No.10315142]

>>10314921
Sounds like he struck a nerve, though. What is it about postmodernism that makes it immune from criticism?

[Anonymous No.10315144]

>>10315134
>that voice

[Anonymous No.10315147]

>>10315142
>What is it about postmodernism that makes it immune from criticism?
Nothing.
But making strawmans of what is and just adding everything that you don't like it is another fucking thing.

[Anonymous No.10315154]

>>10315140
He does talk about slaying dragons a la Campbell or Jung. He also uses the analogy of cleaning your room. If you want a taste of Peterson (I'm only interested in him peripherally, I'm not a mini memerson) I'd recommend checking out his analysis of Pinocchio. It's pretty fun and novel.

[Anonymous No.10315159]

>>10315142
The key point being INTELLIGENT criticism - there's plenty of parts in Derrida, Baudrillard, Deleuze/Guattari, etc, that don't work at all, but Peterson never addresses those actual errors of postmodernists, he just snowballs everything into this catchall category of "neo-marxism" or "subversion" and conflates it with unrelated subjects that he's also mad about, like the pronoun shit. It's lazy thinking at best, deliberately misleading at worst.

[Anonymous No.10315167]

>>10315154
>If you want a taste of Peterson
I'm not really into youtubers. I'll leave this thread

[Anonymous No.10315171]

>>10315167
He writes books too; he was a professor at Harvard. Youtube just made him famous.

[Anonymous No.10315184]

>>10315147
>While encompassing a broad range of ideas, postmodernism is typically defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony or rejection toward grand narratives, ideologies and various tenets of universalism, including objective notions of reason, human nature, social progress, moral universalism, absolute truth, and objective reality.[4] Instead, it asserts to varying degrees that claims to knowledge and truth are products of social, historical or political discourses or interpretations, and are therefore contextual or socially constructed. Accordingly, postmodern thought is broadly characterized by tendencies to epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, irreverence and self-referentiality.

To be fair it does sound like a load of horseshit.

[Anonymous No.10315196]

>>10314917
>literature equivalent of winning the special olympics
this is probably the best analogy i've seen

[Anonymous No.10315204]

we need a /yootoober/ and /self-help/ board.

this shit's ridiculous

[Anonymous No.10315205]

>>10315184
It sounds like a useless presupposition. It's like, okay, well, what's next? It doesn't help society, it doesn't progress metaphysical thought. Wow shit is relative. Congratulations.

[Anonymous No.10315206]

>>10315184
>claims to knowledge and truth are products of social, historical or political discourses or interpretations

Do you doubt this?
Here's Nietzsche: A mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms—in short, a sum of human relations which have been enhanced, transposed, and embellished poetically and rhetorically, and which after long use seem firm, canonical, and obligatory to a people: truths are illusions about which one has forgotten that this is what they are; metaphors which are worn out and without sensuous power; coins which have lost their pictures and now matter only as metal, no longer as coins.

[Anonymous No.10315223]

>>10315204
This board is so slow and full of meme books already, how is this thread not helpful in keeping this relic of a board alive?

[Anonymous No.10315230]

>>10314678
Bump

[Anonymous No.10315231]

>>10315205
>useless
>help
>progress
Die functionalist scum. *shoots yu in the head*
I bet you'd tell God to fuck off... hurr what use is heaven what use is truth
retard

[Anonymous No.10315239]

>>10315231
10/10. Here is your (you).

[Anonymous No.10315255]

>>10315081
the book isnt even out so you cant possibly know the context the 'rules' are in.

not sure if you actually have something against him or your just trying to rustle

[Anonymous No.10315262]

>>10315223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28xM5Pwio9Y

[Anonymous No.10315265]

Rebel without a cause baby

[Anonymous No.10315284]

>>10315265
This is a Peterson thread, not a Camus. Camus is cool though. Punk as fuck.

[Anonymous No.10315287]

>>10314762
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.10315291]

>>10314909
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.10315294]

>>10314751
Redd/lit/ is full of /leftypol/ wannabe intellectuals.

[Anonymous No.10315303]

>>10315294
I think it's more the fact that the right so staunchly identifies and absorbs him into the culture. You for instance are probably the kind that would call him /ourguy/ or click the click bait "Peterson ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS [insert arbitrary group].

[Anonymous No.10315305]

>>10315284
>confusing rebel without a cause and l'etranger
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10315311]

>>10315303
Which is funny, because Peterson himself says he skews left, and even if he was a right winger he would be a right winger in Canada (our right wing parties make Clinton look like Mussolini).

[Anonymous No.10315315]

>>10314751
I think it's the disjunct between his clearly having read and probably understood the major post-structuralists, and his outright dismissal of them as all saying *exactly* the same thing, basically his refusal to engage with them on individual merit. At least that's what turned me away from following him.

[Anonymous No.10315321]

>>10315303
No. It’s just that it doesn’t make me froth at the mouth with rage to see someone trying to help young men live with purpose. I actually think it’s a good thing, despite the protests of Reddit, to encourage /r9k/-types to not be useless and unhappy good goys. Nice strawman, though.

[Anonymous No.10315339]

>>10315321
well go to evangelize the fuckups at /r9k/ and let us talk about fucking books in peace.

[Anonymous No.10315345]

>>10315339
But peterson has written books and he's a pretty decent writer.

[Anonymous No.10315350]

>>10315339
this is a thread about petersons book you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.10315352]

>>10314509

>self help

Really makes me thonk

[Anonymous No.10315353]

>>10314751
Because people have been posting the same threads about him for months on end even though he has practically nothing to do with literature or philosophy. Oh, and the people who post about him are typically the_donald tier who have barely read a book in their life. It's nothing personnel, people just don't want Peterson's drooling fanbase here.

[Anonymous No.10315369]

>>10315345
>>10315350
this is just a thread for the cult of personality of your internet dad you faggots, there is LITERALLY no discussion of anything that the retard have wrote on here.

[Anonymous No.10315376]

>>10315105

>reading capitalist propaganda

Really mapes me gink

[Anonymous No.10315383]

>>10314751
He has a lot of good and interesting stuff to say that his mongoloid fan base ignores in favor of "Le epic SJW burns!" and "clean your father's dragon room bucko xD"
His bible series is really great archetypal analysis of the Bible and what that means for life but of course his retard fan base can't go through 4 hours of the stuff at a time

[Anonymous No.10315384]

>>10315353
>that whole 'kekistan' thing and replies.

[Anonymous No.10315385]

>>10314509
>people will read this instead of Aristotle

[Anonymous No.10315392]

>>10314751
It's his followers, not him, although he is second rate. I have enjoyed some clips from his lectures, but when he tries to engage with philosophy it's almost embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10315395]

>>10315294
/leftypol/ is more 4chan than /pol/ now

[Anonymous No.10315399]

>>10314751

See http://metamoderna.org/jordan-peterson-and-camille-paglia-a-marathon-of-academic-incompetence?lang=en

the tldr of it is a non philosopher talking about philosophy mischaracterises and miss uses ideas and condemns it based on those missunderstandings

[Anonymous No.10315407]

>>10315385
>People will read Aristotle instead of the so called "pre-scoratic" Milesians and Eleatics

[Anonymous No.10315414]

>>10314751
Newfag or /pol/lack confirmed

[Anonymous No.10315447]

>>10315353
Exactly. This

[Anonymous No.10315458]

>>10315395
Keep telling yourself that.

[Anonymous No.10315460]

>>10315353
Holy shit that is awful

[Anonymous No.10315469]

>>10315458
The majority of /pol/ is from the anti-sjw youtube sphere or the r/donald. It isn't a matter of politics, and to be blind to the amount of traffic /pol/ and in turn the rest of this site got after the election just shows you weren't here before

[Anonymous No.10315472]

We should move all the peterson "God is necessary for all proof" peterson threads to /pol/. We need to make it clear mouthbreathing retards are not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.10315474]

>>10315472
if we only had moderation

[Anonymous No.10315485]

>>10314509
>ITT: Faggots getting mad that some people have found a lecturer and writer that they like and whose ides they've found useful.

[Anonymous No.10315491]

>>10315472
>>10315474
Hello comrades. If you want everything you don’t personally liked banned, there’s this great website called https://www.reddit.com You should check it out. Especially r/communism. If you’re a loser IRL you should also look into becoming a Reddit or /leftypol/ moderator yourself so you can feel like you have power over something for once in your wretched life. Communism will win!

[Anonymous No.10315498]

>>10315485
t.newfag who is oblivious to the decay Peterson fans bring because he is one

[Anonymous No.10315501]

>>10315491
>everything that i don't like is communism
I don't give a fuck if you want to talk about fucking mein kampf.
What i hate is you faggots spamming bait threads and having the discourse level turn into youtube comment tier.

[Anonymous No.10315508]

>>10315491
Ironically the "everyone who disagrees with is my political opponent" is a staple of r/the_donald, r/communism and youtube comments. You people just keep outing yourselves as ideologically driven idiots

[Anonymous No.10315514]

>>10314751
he only barely covers the surface of philosophy and makes pseuds feel good about their (((intellect)))

[Anonymous No.10315525]

>>10314751
Peterson is hated mostly because of ideological reasons. The left will attempt to discredit anyone who they see as a threat to their doctrine of moral relativism and cult to collectivism.

Post-modernism follows an intellectual playbook very similar to Islam

>Person criticizes x
>"You can't criticize x if you haven't read the authors"
>Person reads authors and rather than changing his mind, confirms that said ideology is dangerous and makes no fucking sense
>"No no no you don't understand what they mean, please pay $300,000 dollars for a course on transexual fifth-dimensional neo-feminism, only then will you understand Foucault and Derrida"
>Person takes course, still can't make sense of post-modernism
>"Well I guess you can't be helped"

The academic discipline of philosophy went down the drain the moment professors inspired by the post-modern school started taking over.

[Anonymous No.10315529]

>>10315525
>You can't criticize x if you haven't read the authors
well... no? At least not in the fucking literature board?

[Anonymous No.10315535]

>>10315529
The point is that they will make up any excuse to make you think that you don't understand their shitty ideology or philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10315536]

>>10315525
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.10315544]

>>10315536
no
read vox day and lauren southern on this topic

[Anonymous No.10315557]

>>10315399
its interesting, i think jp might not be revealing how much he knows.

my main complaint is that he repeats the same ideas over and over. watching his lecture series even casually means noticing just how much he repeats himself.

as to why i still think he knows more than he lets on, his best stuff comes from interviews where he cant steer the conversation to what he has a clear narrative on. in those videos he can play with info from a broad range of fields. in one of the q&a sections he is called out on his mischaracterisation of postmodernism. while i personally think he answered the question poorly, he did admit that when he refers to postmodernism he is only talking about those people that want to subject their narrative onto everyone and that he does it on purpose.

i respect the dude and had found him to be a great initial guide for figuring shit out in my life, its important to know that he makes a lot of shortcuts which many people misinterpret as a lack of knowledge because he rarely admits it. personally think is for the sake of the people not interested in reading the books he suggests, which is why the comment section looks so shitty because its full of just those people.

[Anonymous No.10315562]

>>10315557
Thank you for letting us know that you are a cultist.

[Anonymous No.10315579]

>>10314751
Because Americans have to politicize everything. You have to hate whatever the other side likes without examining it, hence, left leaning boards like /lit/ have a lot of spergs who think their bizarre ranting is some sort of political act. If these people realized no-one gives a solitary fuck about their pointless 'culture war' and their worthless opinions. If they did something in the real world they might achieve something, but no, have to keep up the pretence of relevance otherwise the ego might suffer.

And vice versa for the right.

[Anonymous No.10315593]

>>10315562
if that helps you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.10315686]

>>10315353
I think you would be hard-pressed to find an intelligent comment on youtube in general, let alone on a fairly popular video.

I agree that he really shows that he is out of his depth when he starts to bring philosophy into a discussion and outside his lecture series he has surprisingly little to say given his ___vast intellect___.

His main problem I think is outright dismissing huge tracts of work by labeling them as post-modernist and/or Marxist and then just takes certain elements out of them (post-modernism's rejection of grand narratives, Marxist thought leading to vicious states) and uses that as a dismissal. However, a lot of people do this same exact thing regarding him. He has some good things to say.

A lot of the allure is having a living semi-intellectual with content, imo.

[Anonymous No.10315700]

>>10315579
>left leaning boards like /lit/
The delusion

[Anonymous No.10315709]

>>10315700
To ideologues, everyone who doesn't agree with them is the enemy. If one poster doesn't advocate bringing back gas chambers, the whole board is full of lib-cuck post-modernist Marxists.

[Anonymous No.10315714]

>>10315498
>says Peterson fans bring decay to the board
>doesn't say anything about the decay of civilization that Peterson's enemies bring.

>my main complaint is that he repeats the same ideas over and over. watching his lecture series even casually means noticing just how much he repeats himself.

That's true of any speaker or thinker. You're noticing it because you're watching lecture after lecture, while he's tailoring his message to the people he's speaking directly to. The same holds true for anyone on either side of the spectrum. Go watch a handful of Zizek talks.

[Anonymous No.10315728]

Just finished his maps of meaning lectures, was about to start his personality course. Is it basically the same material or is it different enough to watch with his same little anecdotes?

[Anonymous No.10315739]

>>10315714
> he's tailoring his message to the people he's speaking directly to

which is why ive found myself watching less of his content. i suppose its time to move on

[Anonymous No.10315773]

>>10315714
Alright, let's be real here. Zizek repeats jokes, but he has a way bigger pool of ideas to pull from in lectures.
t. Zizekfag who's watched too many Peterson videos.

[Anonymous No.10315780]

>>10315544
>read vox day and lauren southern on this topic
Is this bait?

[Anonymous No.10315851]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vAat1HQU0M

Day 1 purchase tbqh.

[Anonymous No.10315860]

>>10315728
It's more psychology driven.

[Anonymous No.10315862]

>>10315714
>>10315773
>Go watch a handful of Zizek talks
Zizek has much better phil credentials, Peterson is really just a Jungian

[Anonymous No.10315895]

>>10315105
>brown hand
hmm

[Anonymous No.10315898]

>>10315557
Im not the anon in
>>10315562

> i think jp might not be revealing how much he knows.

I think its more to do with him using very different and questionable definitions and understandings. For instance take a look at the evasiveness that happens when it comes to his Christianity. His stance and position can be stated in a couple of sentences but he doesn't for what I can only suspect out of a desire to not alienate people who are genuine Christians by revealing the more bizzare elements of his belief

[Anonymous No.10315924]

>>10315134
Girls that cute give me bittersweet dopamine kicks
fucking cunts

[Anonymous No.10315932]

>>10315898
i think you might be closer to the point than i was.

he seems to at least be following what he believes about 'telling the truth, or at the least not lying'. clearly going for the latter.

perhaps he fears being called a heretic

[Anonymous No.10316165]

Everyone that goes to /pol/ should be sentenced to death by guillotine.

[Anonymous No.10316178]

>>10315895
whyd id someone make a less funny ripoff of the exact same pic

[Anonymous No.10316242]

>>10314903
1. Accept the current system.
2. Become more productive.
3. Embrace tradition and tell yourself that it's revolutionary.
4. Reproduce so the system goes on.
5. Study myths and use them to justify everything you do.
6. Study cartoons at length and apply everything you know in explaining them.
7. Every statistic is useful and correct, form a narrative around it.
8. Study memes to appeal to the internet people.
9. Spin a narrative out of everything ever and tie it all together.
10. Fight postmodern neo-Marxists, the contradictions of this label are on them rather than you.
11. Sound like your about to cry while imitating Kermit every time you speak.
12. Ignore geopolitics and possible catastrophies, focus on little things and individual motive.

[Anonymous No.10316245]

>>10315159
I'm curious, what part of D&G you think doesn't work?

[Anonymous No.10316249]

[Anonymous No.10316256]

>>10315134
>such an intellectual giant
he's not wrong
Peterson is a genuine force for good in our times
it's a shame ideologues are so adamant to discredit him without understanding him, they are basically agents of evil

[Anonymous No.10316275]

>>10314509
Anyone else read it as
>An antidote to Chads
at first?

[Anonymous No.10316285]

>>10314751
1. He has obnoxious fans.
2. He says some vague overly generalized stuff about postmodernism and neo-marxism.
3. They're unironic SJWs and unsorted people/redditors.

[Anonymous No.10316287]

>>10316275
I feel sorry for you

[Anonymous No.10316292]

>>10316256
Righteous

[Anonymous No.10316297]

>>10316256
I think the reason his message is so important is because they're INCAPABLE of understanding him, the man is restoring reason and humanity to a world ravaged by nihilism.

[Anonymous No.10316311]

>>10315118
>implying grandmas are bad
shut your whore mouth

[Anonymous No.10316329]

>>10315535
That doesn't undermine the fact that you have to read the authors to criticize x, especially if your criticism reveals your ignorance

[Anonymous No.10316411]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vAat1HQU0M

[Anonymous No.10316445]

>>10314697
>>10314661
good to hear you two Chads have it all figured out. what are you doing to help your fellow man then?

[Anonymous No.10316571]

>>10315085
>>10315095
>>10315103
>>10315255
https://youtu.be/GJJClhqGq_M

[Anonymous No.10316751]

>>10314751
/lit/ used to be /leftypol/'s safespace on 4chan. that's no longer the case, so said subhumans need to lash out against something

[Anonymous No.10316839]

should I read joseph campbell instead?

[Anonymous No.10316842]

>>10316411
I am a fan of his but I don't think anyone needs to read his book after listening to this, he couldn't possibly add anything more.

[Anonymous No.10316859]

i bought that understand myself shit he was shilling. biggest waste of 10 bucks of my life. never supporting him again

[Anonymous No.10316864]

What were Peterson's fans doing BEFORE Peterson came along? Why did it take Peterson of all people to get them to notice leftist rot?

[Anonymous No.10316874]

>>10316842
he is not a great writer, and the extract he decided to use for that video kind of shows it, he is good at making videos and portraying a psychological conception of your life and other people

not sure why he makes people in this board so angry, he is just a psychologist writing about very broad topics using his expertise on psychology, of course he won't get all the themes as right as other scholars that actually studied those subjects, but that doesn't undo the criticism from a psychological point of view, and nobody seems to address that at all, just point at something retarded he said about postmodernism or maths, which is fair enough, but still doesn't undo the criticism

[Anonymous No.10316876]

>>10316864
playing video games and masturbating to anime

[Anonymous No.10316879]

Those four arrows forming a square would make a great fascist symbol. Has something like that ever been used?

[Anonymous No.10316888]

>>10316864
trying to understand zizek

[Anonymous No.10316890]

>>10316879
woah
feels like i'm 13 years old at a school computer again

[Anonymous No.10316902]

>>10316890
v2

[Anonymous No.10316910]

TLDR I blame the YouTube algorithm. Honestly, don't love or hate Peterson, so baffled by the YT recommendations. Guessing Joseph Cambell has more to offer since that seems to be a Peterson Influence.

On a related note, Canadians sure have done their part in destroying traditional hetero relations, ay?

[Anonymous No.10316916]

>>10316751
>/leftypol/'s safespace on 4chan
4chan as a whole was always left-leaning and back in the days of marxist generals on /lit/ we used to have unironical /n/ fascists producing interesting argumentative coherent political discussion here before you and the giant election cycle tide of your larping redditesque /the_pol/ ilk with 9 years of secondary education and 3 failed attempts to get a GED buried virtually anything good to come out of this memeposting shithole under a thick layer of unadulterated cretinism and infantile shitflinging, you piece of human refuse.

[Anonymous No.10316923]

>>10316910
>Guessing Joseph Cambell has more to offer since that seems to be a Peterson Influence.
he's not

[Anonymous No.10316977]

>>10315105
>he didn't know that the gulag archipelago can be found in literally every university library around the world
I like Peterson and all but goddamn man Kekistanis are some of the dumbest people ever

[Anonymous No.10316996]

>>10315498
What decay do you think this is bringing to the board? If anything, I see it as leading some people to read Dostoevsky, Nietzsche, and Jung. You will always have people who misread authors, but at least one more person who can genuinely discuss these authors is welcome in my book, since most posters already who try to contribute don't read anything anyway.

[Anonymous No.10317087]

>>10314751
He's articulate and insightful, and he's popular with normals. So, contrarians who define their self worth by the degree to which they stand distant from the centre of popular opinion are obliged to personally attack his character as is their only actual option in the face of conceding that instead of divining truth through antisocial ideological dogmas derived from 4chan, they may not actually understand a lot of what he's talking about.

That's basically the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.10317100]

>>10316242
>1. Accept the current system.
>4. Reproduce so the system goes on.
Peterson is known as an activist and social critic, what the fuck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.10317101]

>>10316916
t.

[Anonymous No.10317111]

>>10316923
You're wrong. Too many fakes on Lit today.

[Anonymous No.10317121]

>>10316916
>I swear we used to be cool and left-wing but then the righties came and they're being STUPID and MEAN

[Anonymous No.10317130]

>>10317111
fake whats?

[Anonymous No.10317137]

>>10316916
4chan was never specially left wing, it was anti-establishment, anti-government, and at the time left wing ideas were associated with that, but 4chan never had any kind of positive left wing message attached to it, just negatives against several things

[Anonymous No.10317144]

>>10314751
Hes just so fundamentally wrong about everything that its horrific to see mainstream journalism ask him to explain things like he is some sort of expert.

I watched that one video where he was asked about french postmodernism and was shocked by how he completely misunderstood not one but every member of that school.

Its one thing to watch an idiot talk, its quite another to watch him talk on a podium.

[Anonymous No.10317194]

>>10317144
misreading people is productive and only plebs think otherwise

[Anonymous No.10317197]

>>10317087
>No responses.

That's what I thought, /lit/.

[Anonymous No.10317208]

>>10317137
>it was anti-establishment, anti-government, and at the time left wing ideas were associated with that
This
4chan is just a contrarian machine

[Anonymous No.10317213]

>>10317144
>a psychologist is not a philosopher
tell me something i didn't know already and how that in any way addresses his criticism of the external manifestation of postmodernist academics

[Anonymous No.10317215]

>>10317197
Nobody wants to engage with either a babby bait or a sincere retard.

[Anonymous No.10317242]

>>10317215
how convenient it is that the left never has to take responsibility for anything

[Anonymous No.10317246]

>blaming Peterson for the comments on his videos
Literally any popular youtube video has cancer in the comments.

[Anonymous No.10317248]

>>10316916
>left leaning
>the place that refers to everyone as faggots and niggers
lolok

[Anonymous No.10317250]

Is peterson soyboycore?

[Anonymous No.10317261]

>>10317248
>all left is politically correct
Moron

[Anonymous No.10317451]

>>10317250
No, Peterson is Onion Man core. Lifting and reading brings out the inner beast so one can fight the dragon of chaos.

[Anonymous No.10317674]

>>10317100
Everyone is anti-system today. You could be the most conservative person ever and present yourself as a revolutionary. Even Macron the president banker wrote a book literally called Revolution.

[Anonymous No.10317741]

>>10317674
"revolutionary" and "conservative" aren't necessarily in opposition one to another. It all depends on the current socio-political context.

[Anonymous No.10317754]

>>10317451
>muh lifting
Yeah -routinely picking up weights in a safe, sterile, air-conditioned environment couple times a week really makes the BEAST pop out

[Anonymous No.10317801]

>>10317754
>implying increased testosterone levels, muscular mass, cardiovascular health and diminished depression aren't conductive to optimal masculinity

[Anonymous No.10317821]

>>10317741
True, but a revolution should change the political system otherwise it's a reform, no matter how radical. An example of a conservative revolution is fasicsm. Bit today we don't eve get that, just radical centrist memes.

[Anonymous No.10317829]

>>10317801
I know - I've been lifting for years myself - and those are all great things, but "beast" is in your mind. Looking like one and being one are different things.

[Anonymous No.10317852]

>>10317821
And, as far as I know, Peterson doesn't claim to be a revolutionary. In fact he warns about the dangers of ideological violence and only preaches moderate traditionalism.
The political climate of Canada is such though, that even moderate conservatives find themselves in a place of controversy and opposition to the status-quo.

[Anonymous No.10317882]

>>10317451
>Lifting and reading brings out the inner beast so one can fight the dragon of chaos.
Is this what first worlders tell themselves to give meaning to their pathetic lifes?

[Anonymous No.10317895]

>>10314751
Just look at the sidebar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka1mO2CTCLU
Do you really want to associate with these people? Endow them the appellation of comrade?

[Anonymous No.10317898]

>>10317242
>/lit/ has a responsibility to respond to every bait post
I have never witnessed such high levels of entitlement

[Anonymous No.10317980]

>>10317882
My privilege got me this far, I may as well take it all the way to see what I can become.

[Anonymous No.10317993]

>>10317829
>but "beast" is in your mind. Looking like one and being one are different things.

Did you discover a new model for testosterone? lel

[Anonymous No.10318008]

>dragons
>"saving your father"
>room cleaning
>banal platitudes and fantasy metaphors
so this is the power of modern """philosophy""" . . . . woah

[Anonymous No.10318010]

>>10317882
>a thirdie shitskin raises voice to people whom he owes everything including his infernal shithole being livable today
That's a bad dog. Shush.

[Anonymous No.10318082]

>>10317993
Yeah, the small increase in natty testosterone from lifting weights will truly turn you into a BEAST of man.
Whatever makes you sleep at night

[Anonymous No.10318164]

>>10318008
>clinical psychologist and a teacher professionally
>social activist and a YouTuber in the spare time
>isn't a philosophical genius
Wow... How is this possible?

[Anonymous No.10318184]

>>10317882
wtf i love designated shitting streets now

[Anonymous No.10318245]

>>10314509
this hack nigger is cashing out so hard and none of his brainwashed followers notice it