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Anonymous Thu Nov 16 12:04:25 2017 No.10276435 [Reply] [Original]

What were the Mysteries of Dionysus?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 14:58:18 2017 No.10276957 File: 2.23 MB, 2448x3264, pg 132.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10276435

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>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:07:31 2017 No.10276994 >>10276435 the whole Jesus Christ meme of wine representing blood comes from Dionysic worship

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>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:22:54 2017 No.10277051 I am unironically fucking obsessed with Dionysus. I wish worshipping Greco-Roman deities wasn't fucking edgy tbqh.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:23:45 2017 No.10277056 How do I join a dyonisian cult

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:24:42 2017 No.10277058 >>10276957 >>10276973 >>10277027 >>10277033 >>10277040 >>10277053 what book(s)?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:25:55 2017 No.10277063 >>10276435 Psychoactive drugs

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Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:29:23 2017 No.10277076

>>10277056
Modern Dionysian cults are just oldfags going through a midlife crisis getting drunk and having a disgusting orgy. It's sad. I want to worship him as a god of embracing creativity, allowing yourself to be consumed by imagination and the influence of alcohol in order to create beautiful things, weird things, wild things without letting anxiety or convention limit you. Of course what you'll make will still be mostly crap though, but to me it's about just getting it out, and he helps me do this. I feel like I invoke him whenever I write or draw seriously or anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:30:16 2017 No.10277085 File: 2.46 MB, 2448x3264, pg 139.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10277065 >>10277058 'Mystery Religions in the Ancient World' by Joscelyn Godwin

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>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:44:50 2017 No.10277124 File: 59 KB, 325x499, C688C434-C2B1-463C-8F80-25BE759055B6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10277114 Godwin is good. This book is comfy.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:50:30 2017 No.10277140
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>>10276957
>>10276973
Some good quotes about mystery cults and Dionysius in this book but unfortunately I lent it to a friend and moved since.

Of course, one could interpret it as an Apollo-nizing with its Neoplatonic explanations...

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 15:53:51 2017 No.10277148
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>>10277124
>>10277140
Uzdavinys seems a lot less polemical than Nietzsche... I like his balanced unity of Apollo and Dionysius. Nietzsche seems to often be misinterpreted as advocating excess.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 16:05:14 2017 No.10277186
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>>10277051
>>10277076
People often say the mystery religions were “lost”. They have not been lost. They have been supressed. And as scholarship has left behinds its Christian chains it has begun to re-examine some of this suppressed knowledge. People, iy seems, have been having these same experiences through the same methods since the dawn of recorded history. Christianity has just been suprressing them for the last two millenia. New revelation threatens old religion. Listen to: >>10277063 or try any other method for altering consciousness. I think drugs are the most “stereotypically” Dionysian method, however.

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 16:19:00 2017 No.10277237
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>>10277186
Augh. So many typos. Got too excited. Notice the mushroom on the cover.
>>10277148
I often have trouble reconciling my love of Nietzscheanism and Platonism, lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 17:53:28 2017 No.10277569 >>10276435 Finally a good thread

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 18:05:37 2017 No.10277602

As someone who has taken large doses of psychedelics but avoided any more than 5-6 shots of alcohol on a night out could anyone who's had both psychs and 20+ shots of alcohol tell me if spirits actually get you "high" or is drunk on spirits as far removed from psychedelic revelation as I imagine it to be?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 18:17:48 2017 No.10277654 >>10277602 It is horrible, i would not recommend anon and if do anyway be prepared to vomit

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 19:43:21 2017 No.10277947 >>10276957 >>10276973 >>10277027 >>10277033 >>10277040 >>10277053 >>10277065 >>10277085 >>10277093 >>10277093 >>10277096 >>10277103 >>10277109 >>10277114 >>10277140 >>10277148 >>10277186 thank you guys so much for this

Anonymous Thu Nov 16 20:28:40 2017 No.10278057

>>10277602
I have done many drugs, many drugs. Stylized myself a shaman once. Now I stay away from psychedelics. I have found a happy center. I would not recommend twenty drinks in a short period of time. It is not “psychedelic”. Entheogens are highly unique. I believe in ancient times, various psychoactives (including alcohol) were mixed together. Polydrug abuse can be fun albeit dangerous. I myself enjoy mixing beer and weed and cigarettes. All bad habits on their own but damned if they don’t deliver me to a state of nirvana wherein I can work and study and read and write without being crippled by my overwhelming anxiety. I thank psychedelics for showing me my happy center and giving me faith in a metaphysical world, however, even though I no longer mess with them. Seek and you shall find, as they say.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 20:30:46 2017 No.10278062 >>10278057 (: I'm jealous as fuck tbqh I don't even know anyone so I can't get anything like weed or DMT or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 20:34:11 2017 No.10278068 If we knew, they wouldn't be mysteries now would they?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:27:11 2017 No.10278215 >>10276435 Daily reminder that the ancient Greek mystery cults are nothing more than the ancient equivalent of modern Pentacostal churches. Who you gonna trust? Four thousand years of theology or a high?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:30:28 2017 No.10278226 >>10278215 >Who you gonna trust? Four thousand years of theology or a high? definitely the high tbqh famalam. it's more fun and I'm a filthy hedonist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:36:09 2017 No.10278243 File: 62 KB, 351x263, CrumbPKD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10278215 >only choosing theology or drugs >not mentioning the third option

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 16 21:44:11 2017 No.10278276 >>10278243 What's the third option?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 02:57:11 2017 No.10279196 >>10278276 Both nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 12:44:46 2017 No.10280566 File: 605 KB, 1200x1201, 1200px-Gustav_Klimt_046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10276435 I love Klimt

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 12:49:45 2017 No.10280586 Have you guys read The Bacchae? It's a good one!

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 12:54:35 2017 No.10280601 >>10280586 I'd love to party with those chicks

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 13:13:25 2017 No.10280651 >>10277148 You could've ended with "nietzche ilseems to often be misinterpreted"

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 13:29:04 2017 No.10280699 >>10277051 Are you the guy with the shrine who unironically believes that Dionysus inspires your creativity? If so, respect

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 13:33:29 2017 No.10280708

>“It's a very Greek idea, and a very profound one. Beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it. And what could be more terrifying and beautiful, to souls like the Greeks or our own, than to lose control completely? To throw off the chains of being for an instant, to shatter the accident of our mortal selves? Euripides speaks of the Maenads: head thrown I back, throat to the stars, "more like deer than human being." To be absolutely free! One is quite capable, of course, of working out these destructive passions in more vulgar and less efficient ways. But how glorious to release them in a single burst! To sing, to scream, to dance barefoot in the woods in the dead of night, with no more awareness of mortality than an animal! These are powerful mysteries. The bellowing of bulls. Springs of honey bubbling from the ground. If we are strong enough in our souls we can rip away the veil and look that naked, terrible beauty right in the face; let God consume us, devour us, unstring our bones. Then spit us out reborn.”

Anonymous Fri Nov 17 13:37:03 2017 No.10280722

>>10276435
i watched a lecture on youtube about it but i couldn't find it right now. the mysteries were divulged to the initiate through stories that were like cautionary tales: basically don't fuck with dionysus, he's not a "minor god" and you have to respect that dark, animalistic, mysterious part of the human psyche because if you don't it gonna fucking consume you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 13:45:26 2017 No.10280757 >>10280699 yes ): >>10280708 unironically this

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 17 21:56:01 2017 No.10282309 >>10280757 >unironically this _

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 01:31:42 2017 No.10282842 >>10278062 Dark web All you need is a safe address and monero. Plausible deniability because LE cant prove you knew pack was coming

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 01:59:27 2017 No.10282880 >>10282842 Just pay with bitcoin?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 02:52:32 2017 No.10282973 >>10278062 Isn't DMT contained in Chaliponga and other legal herbs? I heard you have to take Syrian Rue or Pergamum Hamala and then either Chaliponga or Yopo Seeds (or others) to have a full experience. They're all legal, try and research them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 03:55:09 2017 No.10283088 >>10278062 Some Canadian pharmaceutical websites sell 4 aco dmt for research purposes..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 04:24:11 2017 No.10283126 File: 244 KB, 1200x1379, Mithra_sacrifiant_le_Taureau-005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10276435 Mithraic mysteries >>

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:10:05 2017 No.10283226 >>10278062 https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/w/images/0/09/The_DMT_Handbook_201208.pdf

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:12:14 2017 No.10283230 >>10278068 Mysteries depended on mystagogy. People keeping secrets. Course the secret of the secret is there is no secret...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:14:43 2017 No.10283235 where can I find information on mystery religion cults located in asia minor? I will be located in turkey for a while and I would like to travel a bit to collect photos and stuff. I might collect them all into some kind of text in the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 05:17:06 2017 No.10283237 >>10277056 More like how do you found one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 18 06:48:56 2017 No.10283400 >>10283126 >implying someone like you can Know anything Parrots get nowhere.

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