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Is this a good book for someone who's looking to start reading philosophy

>> No.1027383

It's just a good book.

>> No.1027381
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1027381

>crime and punishment
>philosophy

>> No.1027384

>crime and punishment
>good book

>> No.1027386

> crime and punishment
> book

>> No.1027388

>crime
>punishment

>> No.1027389

>c
>p

>> No.1027392
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>>1027384

>> No.1027394

>is

well

that depends on what your definition of "is" is

>> No.1027397

>>1027381
that's not Tom Hanks

>> No.1027405

>>1027392

Shame you can't handle the fact that for all its nice ideas it's a shit tier novel.

>> No.1027414

>>1027405

You guys are so cute, it's too bad you have to grow up sometime.

>> No.1027423

Awesome book, read it.

>> No.1027429

>>1027414

Too bad you're so old and you haven't been able to form an independent opinion.

>> No.1027435

>>1027381
So wait this isn't philosophy?

What is it, just a regular novel?

>> No.1027440

>>1027429
maybe if you'd explain your opinion and didn't just call it shit, we could actually have a discussion about it..

oh wait, this is 4chan

>> No.1027441

>>1027435

Go read the wiki article or something. Kids these days. So fucking lazy.

>> No.1027442

what are some good philosphy books?

>> No.1027443

>>1027429

>Having any opinion similar to that of another person makes you a sheeple who is incapable of independent thought

>> No.1027446

Yes, I guess you'll like it. I'd say it's more psychological than philosophical, though there's some proto-existentialism themes.

>> No.1027447

>>1027442

Go and read Notes From Underground. I think it's the first existentialist book.

>> No.1027450

sure, if you want to read a long, drawn out religious parable.

>> No.1027452

>>1027450

>Can't enjoy a book unless it agrees with his views

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1027454

dat ending

>> No.1027455

existentialism isn't really a philosophy anyway. go read Hegel or something, OP

>> No.1027460

>>1027450
Religion is scary! I'm not gonna read that!

Thanks for saving me the time man I almost grew some balls and realized that plenty of writers are religious and most books have a moral message. My friends will still like me for my unabashed rejection of mainstream thought.

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>>1027455

>> No.1027471

>>1027460
>>1027452

lol so OTT

>> No.1027467

am I posting in a troll thread?

>> No.1027477

>>1027471
You have to properly demoralize the 15 year olds with the same zeal that they ruin every thread so that the ones that aren't simply trolling will leave and come back when they're ready.

>> No.1027487

>>1027435

Exactly. Dostoyevsky was an existentianalist. While Sartre did write some purely theoretical works, for the most part existentialists ended up basing their arguments on the naturalistic fallacy, the grounds for which they MADE UP.

>> No.1027513

>>1027487
No! You mean a philosopher has made something up? Or an author had the audacity to think that philosophers were nothing more than good essayists and poor fiction writers? You've shaken my foundation! No philosophy is truth!

>> No.1027525

Why is it shit? Because for its nice ideas Dostoevsky shoehorns a load of crap into this novel, like he does with most of his works.

The likes of Tolstoy and Turgenev were quite adept at inserting commentaries or views on the condition of Russia at the time without having to have characters blather on for pages about contemporary events totally unrelated to what the characters were supposed to be doing.

THAT, is why Dostoevsky, despite all his clever ideas, is a poor *novelist* and why he should have just written treatises instead.

>> No.1027532

OP here

My English teacher said it's a great book and I've heard its good so I'm just gonna read it anyway

I'll look into Notes From Underground if I like this

>> No.1027534

The only people who don't like this book are asshurt atheistfags.

>> No.1027546

penis stradvin