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This faggot is creating his own pseudo-cult. I don't say he was looking for it at first, but now he certainly isn't doing anything to stop it.

It dissapointed me, desu.

>> No.10271850

pseudointellectual redpilled libertardians needed a new deity since ron paul is old and milo is a child molestor

>> No.10271857

>>10271845
Infotainment finally caught on with conservatives! Oh no! Intelligent people on the right becoming popular!

>> No.10271865

>>10271857
>NEO-KARLTURAL MARXISTS ARE FEEDING THE POSTMODERNIST DRAGON THAT KEEPS YOUR FATHER PRISONER IN AN UNCLEAN ROOM
>intelligent people

>> No.10271879

>it is real
>it is real real
Woah.
On the other hand I'm not suprised. He just wanted the ride towards the top of the meme dominance hierarchy, and he got there and wants more.

>> No.10271954

Peterson is okay I guess. But what's the point of watching some psychiatrist videos rehashing the Ideas of Jung and Nietzsche? They're both incredible thinkers, probably the most important ones too. Just read their respective works instead of being a youtube watching brainlet. Peterson is for lazy pseuds.

>> No.10271975

Wouldn't Nietzsche be ashamed of people learning about him through memerson?
He seems to advocate for delusional slave morality desu

>> No.10272000

>>10271865
>Marxist
>intelligent

>> No.10272010
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>>10272000
Yes.

>> No.10272015
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>>10272000
>everyone who doesn't adore my internet dad is a marxist

>> No.10272019

>>10271845
Pfft, people thought Molymeme would be the next big cult leader and that didn't happened

>> No.10272021

>>10272019
What happened to Molyboi anyway?

>> No.10272056

>>10271845
>This faggot is creating his own pseudo-cult
>This guy isn't doing anything to stop it
There's a big difference between letting people make a meme cult about you and actively trying to create a cult, you giant faggot.

>> No.10272061

>>10272019
I was betting on the Google guy

>> No.10272069

>>10272061
Too autistic and ugly.

>> No.10272070

>>10271845
I wanted to start my own religion.
I have these dumb fantasies where I start a utopian commune and nothing goes wrong.

>> No.10272076

>>10272015
Not even a fan of Peterson (only seen a short clip of him), but the only people I've seen who are actually angry at him are mentally unstable leftists.

>> No.10272079

>>10272069
So? Aren't most members of the alt-right/dark enlightenment like that?

>> No.10272083

>>10272070
Sounds good when do we start? I can wander in the desert or stay in a cave for some time.

>> No.10272098

>>10272083
Actually, I was thinking buying a castle. In europe there are so many fucking castles nobody knows what to fucking do with them, and you can buy one for literally a couple bucks. Of course, you are then responsible for the castle's upkeep and aren't allowed to do shit like add plumbing and electricity, but eh. If we get like, 20-50 people to pitch in, it should be fine. Everyone get's their own room, and in the winter we all sleep in a big fucking pile in the room with the biggest fireplace.
We'll farm and garden and do art. And it'll be really nice.

>> No.10272101

>>10272056
He may not have set out to, but he can see it's happening and is knowingly continuing to behave in a way that encourages it. So no, they're not really different.

>> No.10272111

>>10272101
> is knowingly continuing to behave in a way that encourages it
For example?

>> No.10272114

>>10272098
That sounds comfy af actually. I don't think it's as easy to buy a castle in europe as you think, most of them belong to the country their in and they and conserved for tourism even though no one cares about most of them

>> No.10272118

>>10272076
Literally everyone hates Peterson except for center right normies and people who define their identity around liking video games

>> No.10272127

>>10272111
For example he's still doing what he has been doing.

>> No.10272128

>>10271857
He's not that intelligent. He just applies a very crude philosophical framework to the whole "SJWs are bad" schtick that's been making youtubers rich for years

>> No.10272139

>>10272118
Literally no one cares about him, and the only people who hate others simply because they disagree with them are leftists.

>> No.10272149

>>10272098
I've seen this idea before.
20-50 people is too much for me, I'll stick with the cave idea or wandering in the desert. Unless somebody got a better idea.

>> No.10272163

>>10272114
That depends on the castle, I guess.
I'm german, so I guess I probably have a leg up over others. Lazy google says we COULD buy a 50+ room castle for 600,000. But that's, like just a huge house, you know? The 1€ castle is sort of a rumor, I guess? It's possible. Driving around europe, you see a lot of big stone keeps just sitting there in the middle of the fucking woods. They're castles, but they're not interesting enough for tourism, which is what I'm actually looking for.

>>10272149
Yeah, when I wrote it out, I realized I'd just described a monastery. But instead of praying, we do art stuff. Nobody would be forced to interact- I'm not much of a people person myself, actually. Don't find flaws in my fantasy. Maybe we'll build a lower town, too.

>> No.10272165

>>10272149
50 is certainly too much, 20 would be fine though, at the beginning it would be uncomfortable living with 20 people you don't know but after a few months everyone would know each other and 20 wouldn't seem as much. Plus if you are going to buy a castle to live in (assuming it's possible and not expensive as the other anon said, which i doubt) it would have to be in a remote area where you don't interact with anyone regularly outside the people in the castle so it would be nice to not have to always talk to the same 5 people

>> No.10272170

>>10271845
Why do you care?

>> No.10272173

CAN WE STOP HAVING TEN THREADS TALKING ABOUT PETERSON EVERYDAY?

>> No.10272179

>>10272139
You guys are the ones who make memes about throwing people out of helicopters

>> No.10272183

>>10272173
This thread is not about peterson anymore, its about buying a castle now

>> No.10272202

>>10271845
>Jung, Piaget, Nietzsche, Rogers
what a random assortment of people

>> No.10272211

>>10272183
And it'll be a really great castle too.

>> No.10272231

>>10272202
Peterson draws on them a lot

>> No.10272236

You can criticise many of his views, and some of his twitter posts are pretty disconcerting, but Peterson is still doing a lot of good by making conservatives acknowledge the problems inherent to truth, objectivity, and a mystical notion of god.
Previously, many traditionalists would just clamp up when you tried to get them to acknowledge that objectivity, at least in the sense in which they believe in it, doesn't exist. They'd call you a relativist without even thinking about what you had to say. If they've watched Peterson, chances are you can actually engage them on that issue. His bible lectures also re-frame religion in a way which essentially takes god as a 'personal' entity out of the equation and turns him into a projection of the absolute which the human mind uses to orient itself in the world, which opens religious texts up to philosophical debate in a way that otherwise is often considered inappropriate, because it is thought that the word of god is something 'holy', that thinking about it too deeply is the same as tainting its absolute claim to truthfulness. And people are actually willing to go along with that because it makes their faith come alive for them for the first time in their life. DESU, I'm pretty sure that Peterson only claims to be a Christian to lower conservatives defences so that they'll listen to what he has to say. Dude is totally an atheist.

>> No.10272252

He was just posting a couple of memes

>It dissapointed me
Grow a pair.

>> No.10272259

>>10272010
good post

>> No.10272260

>>10272236
>Dude is totally an atheist.
He's as much of one as the ancient Greeks were.

>> No.10272337

>>10272260
The Athenians would not have murdered Socrates for disrespecting the gods if in their self-understanding he herely disrespected their living and changing values and traditions by showing them that they didn't really know what they were doing. They clearly believed that he was going against the objective, eternal, natural cosmic order, as represented by their naked marble statues, and needed to be stopped.
They didn't believe in sky-dwelling superhumans, but they certainly thought of their culture in a naively divine way. You think Peterson falls into that same trap? He always goes on about how culture needs to change and revitalize itself by individuals who step outside of its boundaries, because the structure by itself just turns into a rotting corpse. That doesn't sound much like 'muh timeless traditions' to me.

>> No.10272371

>>10272337
Maybe he's not quite like their genuine pantheism, but he's certainly not like a modern day Christian's definition of atheism. He certainly seems to labor away like an old Christian scholar might, tinkering with concepts and old books and new information in order to compile them into a single framework, which for him might be under the umbrella concept logos, with complete sincerity about his work, while acknowledging that there is indeed a logos to find and preserve and express.

>> No.10272383

>>10272252
It's only "memes" until he decides to pull another Heavens Gate or Jonestown

>> No.10272384

>>10272337
This is gonna sound rude so don't take it as such:
"So you were there?"

>> No.10272433

personally I think he's full of shit, but I have to admire anyone willing to challenge the left's cultural hegemony.

>> No.10272443

>>10272010
Milquetoast libs are smarter than Marxists. Marxists are the truptards of the Democratic party.

>> No.10272465
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NOT LITERATURE
>NOT LITERATURE
NOT LITERATURE
>NOT LITERATURE
NOT LITERATURE
>NOT LITERATURE

pic related
>>>/his/

>> No.10272485

>>10272371
>tinkering with concepts in order to compile them into a single framework with complete sincerity
You're always compiling information, looking for ways to frame it in a cohesive manner, and at the same time introducing new abstract concepts and (((empirical))) units of information, striving for maximum simultaneous openness and comprehension. That's neither religious nonsense nor metaphysics, it just sounds like 'healthy' human thought to me. Petersons problem is that his thoughts naturally lead into postmodernism, but he's refusing to actually confront himself with it in an honest way because he just sees it as a monster.
Without even realizing it, Peterson is trying to murder his Father (postmodern thought) and rescue the whale (western metaphysics). He was Oedipus all along.

>>10272384
It's alright, I was just using the Athenians as an example for what I would consider to be a 'religious attitude' toward ones culture, viewing tradition as some kind of divine revelation that needs to be preserved at all costs in order to put that in opposition to my impression of Petersons attitude, which is far more pragmatic. If I'm wrong, and the Athenians were aware of the nature of their Ideals I guess they just really thought that Socrates behaviour was disruptive and dangerous, and desu I wouldn't completely put trying to repress (((anti-logos))) opinions and perhaps even ultimately imprison (((postmodernists))) who couldn't be shut up through other means past Peterson if he thought the situation was desperate enough.

I realize this post comes off as pretty antagonistic, so let me just say that I like the guy. I just think that he has some issues that he needs to sort out himself before he tries to sort out western academia. The same goes for a lot of leftist intellectuals of course, particularly the kind that refuses to get educated on anything that smells like science.

>> No.10272506

>>10272465
I like the /lit/ crowd more though.

>> No.10272525
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>>10272211
I'm ready to live in the castle

>> No.10272533

>>10272163
Gotta have some rape stuff later on. Like peace and love a free love and everyone gotta slob the bosses knob in a degrading way but think that they are the only one it happens to. That's how you run a cult

>> No.10272587

>>10272533
hot

>> No.10272604

>>10272128
No one in infotainment is that intelligent. Neil Degrasse Tyson says governments should be "logic-ocracies" but says philosophy is pointless and dangerous. Besides, youtubers get demonitized for that shit nowadays.

>> No.10272654

>>10272010
that's actually a decent chart

>> No.10272668

>>10271850
>>10272015

upvoted

>>10271845

now he's just being shameless

>> No.10272680

>>10272525
Frogposters are not invited.

>> No.10272682

>>10272525
would make for a decent book title/5

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10272694

>>10272179
>people
also this thread is not /lit/, please use sage if you're going to post itt

>> No.10272705

>>10272179
>You guys
You mean /pol/?

>> No.10272726

>>10272705
Idk but the guy who runs the Zero Books YT channel made a video rebutting Peterson, and his very intellectual fans spammed helicopter death threats in the comments.

>> No.10272779

>>10272010
>neo-liberals
>having any kind of inteligence

>> No.10272783

>>10272726
"""people""" like >>10272779 who bump this thread should be thrown out of helicopters along with the marxists

>> No.10272826

>>10272010
I require the names of the faded reactionaries and the man in the top right.

>> No.10272847

Pretty sure most people who like him have never read the Heros journey, hopefully if they do they might see through his BS but until then he'll have them under his spell

>> No.10272880

>>10272826
You CANNOT be this stupid. This is a joke.

>> No.10272914

truly the l ron hubbard of our time

>> No.10273106

>>10272680
I'll be good though desu I can cook pretty well

>> No.10273131
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>>10271850

I would respect Full-libertarians more if they hated private sector corruption as much as they hate the public sector. They fail time and time again to realize that a world with a totally shrunken government would just result private sector neo-feudalism. CEOs, shareholders, boards of directors, and owners of vast sums of private property would replace elected officials as the decision making apparatus, and they would be just as subject to corruption if not more.

>> No.10273143

>>10271845
Peterson is the entry level redpill. That's ok I guess.

>> No.10273147

>>10272485
They don't naturally lead into postmodernism, postmodernism is a reactionary consequence to them. Postmodernism is a reactionary consequence of Nietzsche ultimately, not Peterson, who just borrows a lot from Nietzsche, but Nietzsche does not "lead into" postmodernism.

>> No.10273150

Wake up, he's a part of the new Jewish owned right wing.

These good goys will fight on the side of Jews in the upcoming race war.

>> No.10273159

>>10273150
Controlled opposition, its true. Still its better teenage neckbeards are listening to him over Sargon or Milo, better chance of some redeemable individuals getting through the net

>> No.10273165

>>10273159
We have to redpill the normies to the Jews and their plans to breed out whiteness and completing the genocide we see today

>> No.10273169

>>10273165
Hear, hear white brother

>> No.10273174

>>10273150
>>10273159
>>10273165
>>10272433
>>10272000

>>>/reddit/

>> No.10273192

>>10273174
>Nu-male deflecting right wing discourse

>> No.10273202

>>10271845
>people aren't allowed to have fun
I swear the arguments against Peterson just get feebler and more feebler. I've never looked at him in depth but he must have something really solid of people are so desperate but unable to refute him.

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>>10273202
>It doesn't count it I'm doing it ironically

>> No.10273216

>>10271845
god thats embarrassing:o

>> No.10273224

>>10272010
tfw faded reactionary

>> No.10273231

>>10272826
Leon Trotsky

>> No.10273240

>>10273150
>not fighting on the side of power
Your own loss, degenerate.

>> No.10273254

>>10272010
>Its not a horse-shoe its a boomerang

My Gott of course!

>> No.10273447

>>10273131
>they fail time and time again to realize that a world with a totally shrunken government would just result private sector neo-feudalism. CEOs, shareholders, boards of directors, and owners of vast sums of private property would replace elected officials as the decision making apparatus, and they would be just as subject to corruption if not more
holy shit, it's like you figured out the purpose of libertarianism

>> No.10273545

>>10273224
Jaded, smartie

>> No.10273783

>>10272779
Neoliberals are often intelligent but completely autistic and unable to recognize how their policies hurt billions of people

>> No.10273802

Is Peterson turning into a cult leader?

>> No.10273848

>>10273802
I hope he ends up like Jim Jones so we won't have to see these threads again

>> No.10273858

>>10273848
this would make me okay with the situation too

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>>10271850
Tom Woods is my waifu

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>>10273944

>> No.10274824

truly the l ron hubbard of our time

>> No.10274842
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10274842

>it's another podcast/YouTube charlatan who lets his audience of fatherless young men go to his head

Literally the only person I know in this position who hasn't tried to make a god himself is a fucking Catholic bishop.

>> No.10274859

>>10274842
*make a god of himself

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>>10272010
>tfw a jaded Marxist reactionary theist

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>>10274842
Allegations when?

>> No.10274881

>>10271845
>"pseudo"-cult

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>>10272010

>> No.10274895

>>10274842
implying zizek hasnt descended into insanity trying to keep it from getting to his head

>> No.10274898

>>10274895
but he is not a bishop

>> No.10274902

>>10274898
yet

>> No.10274906

>>10274902
wtf i turned catholic (again)

>> No.10274909

>>10273944
hit me with more cringeshit like this

>> No.10274911
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>>10274906
Hehehe, nothing personal my child.

>> No.10274922

>>10271845
Did someone take the time to paint that or is it shopped?

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>>10273944
>brainlet: the image

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>>10274909

>> No.10274927

>>10272694
>if you dehumanize your enemies you win

>> No.10274929

>>10274869
Anyone else get mad bloodlust when they see that face? Every damned time I see that image I want to gouge out her eyes and cut off her nose. Is that normal?

>> No.10274931

>>10274929
Ur wierd

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>>10274909

>> No.10274939
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>>10274926
>i turn i see people stuck in their echo chambers
>reddit
>peterson subreddit
Holy shit this is gold

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>>10274909
this is the power of true philosophical education..

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>> No.10274946

>>10273210
he literally didn't do anything, some randie made a drawing of him and he said it was neat.

>> No.10274947
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10274947

wow, has /lit/ finally been BTFO?

>> No.10274950

>>10274947
go back there

>> No.10274955

>>10274946
>putting you in a catholic themed picture with a gnostic and anti-christian in it
>calling it neat
Don't dig deeper in the hole

>> No.10274958

>>10272236
>Peterson claims objectivity doesn't exist
>still is an evopsych pseud who """""cRiTiqUeS"""" postmodernism for taking away muh objectivity

>Peterson invented looking at religious texts philosophically
>pseudposter who is defending Peterson doesn't realize Christians have literally been doing this for over a millennium

>> No.10274959

>>10274955
Not to mention the picture casts Peterson in the role of a monarch, with the crown, orb, and scepter. Approving of it is quite disconcerting.

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>>10274947
>cant even write professionals
>all those fucking typos
>circular reasoning

>> No.10274964

>>10272485
>It's alright, I was just using the Athenians as an example for what I would consider to be a 'religious attitude' toward ones culture, viewing tradition as some kind of divine revelation that needs to be preserved at all costs
this is why pseud STEMposters need to leave /lit/. literally every society ever has done this discursively. read Durkheim you fucking twat.

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>>10274909

>> No.10274972

>>10273944
>poorly sourced and openly propagandistic """historical""" text
>LE TROOF
Peterson fans keep getting stupider

>> No.10274977

>>10274940
>feudalism
>collectivism
literally what

>> No.10274978

>>10274947
>doctor of philosophy
>the completely meaningless phrase "episteme of culture"
what the actual fuck lol

>> No.10274982

>>10274943
omfg

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10274985

>>10274966
Post your favourite postmodernist. here's mine.

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>> No.10274987

>>10274970
Nicholas Ibarra looks like a chad, don't see what the problem is.

>> No.10274988

>>10274985
I enjoy Callicles' grandeur a little more, to be honest.

>> No.10274992

What is worst, is that after confirming my suspiciousness of peterson fans being retarded, we are still getting raided by them daily.
What the fuck guys.

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>>10274909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGChS4FpTa8
>>10274970
No wonder the fame got to his head

>> No.10274996

>>10274986
'Do not bother children when they are skateboarding' is quite a tender, evocative truism actually. Feel bad for making fun of this now.

>> No.10274997

>>10274996
Peterson is fine. It's his fans that are cancer

>> No.10275000

>>10274997
he is the worst version of his fans, though
>so snowflake triggered about people wanting to use different pronouns that he threw a temper tantrum on national television and threw rallies full of neckbeards to intimidate uncomfortable and alienated college kids

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>>10274988
Machiavelli, classic post-modernist.

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>>10273131
private sector corruption is only corruption because of regulation you dingus. if there's limited government to corrupt then the reach is limited. you obviously haven't thought of this deeply enough.

governments, and people, are corrupt. period. the only solution is to not give industry an incentive to corrupt it by not having regulatory bodies and allowing informed and properly cultured population drive the ethics of business through purchasing power.

which is what we already do through voting for regulation instead of just using purchasing power. government is a self interested middle man. necessary? maybe, but thats a complete different argument then the retarded point youre trying to make.

>> No.10275016

>>10275000
Ehh

He's a conservative, and conservatives generally have very little faith in the average person's ability to determine what's best for them. Hence he has little faith in a person's ability to determine their identity, especially at a young age.

>> No.10275018

>>10274824
Underrated to be quite fucking honest.

>> No.10275021

>>10275015
you can't have currency without a central authority constituting that currency as valid. you literally can't have capitalism without the state. this should be bleedingly obvious to anyone who knows even the most basic elements of economics.

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>ITT

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>>10274985

>> No.10275026

Doesn't Peterson think that Frozen is feminist propaganda or something like that?

>> No.10275028

>>10275021
Hi Brad

>> No.10275038

>>10275000
If by threw a tantrum you mean calmly and articulately raised serious and rational counter points to it and to the general sentiment it came from, then yeah.

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>>10275015
>saying this post 08

>> No.10275045

>>10272021
Hes just not that good. He tries to dominate philosophical conversations with little sleight of hand traps that dont mean anything. People catch on

>> No.10275050

>>10271845
>average professor
>tells you to clean your room
>makes seventy grand a month
Nothing to see here folks.

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>> No.10275088

>>10272779
Neo-liberals are objectively the most intelligent and pragmatic political group you'll find. They just happen to lack personal ethics as a consequence.

>> No.10275091

>>10271975

> He seems to advocate for delusional slave morality

this is JPB's falal flaw. Its like he never actually read N.. but I guess sitting down to actually confront Solzhenitsyn- and recommending that other people do so, as if that were a healthy thing to do, and when there is always more Turgenev and Tolstoy to read even, that might be enough to blunt one's literary consciousness into an immunity to Nietzsche- to the capacity to actually read all of Nietzsche and at least have perhaps a partial grasp of the secondary literature on Nietzsche and yet come out espousing a slave morality. It would take something like a Solzhenitsyn to accomplish that..

>> No.10275093

>>10275021
>you can't have currency without a central authority constituting that currency as valid.
Pre-20th century history says hello

>> No.10275094

>>10275088
t. 110iq

>> No.10275101

>>10275094
Most prominent Jews are neo-liberals. Successful, cunning businessmen are mostly neo-liberals (with some conservative concessions if they're also military/oil contractors of course). Marxists are gutterscum.

>> No.10275122

>>10275041
Giving a more accurate representation of what libertarians believe while being open to arguments on the actual viability as long as the conversation isn't starting from some retarded false premise?

u smart

>> No.10275123

>>10275101
my apologies i didn't know you were actually using neoliberal correctly. your original post was absolutely accurate yes.

>> No.10275132

>>10272019
Molyneux realized he could make more money being a mainstream conservative youtube voice rather than running a weird libertarian cult thing.

>> No.10275143

>>10275091
>if you truly read x, you’d agree with y
Ummm.... sweetie... that’s not how philosophy works...

>> No.10275164

>>10275143
It's closer to
>if you said you agree with x then you also agree with y idea that x places as the centrepiece of his philosophy

>> No.10275167

>>10274882
saved, cheers for posting

>> No.10275185

>>10275143
>>10275164

no, its closer to
>if x had n gospel to share with you and you read all of x but you didn't receive n because s fucked your head with the equivalent in the literature of political economy to snuff film propaganda on repeat for eight hundred pages, then you are a dumb faggot

read Deleuze already you pseuds

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>>10275185
you just repeated what I stated but less concisely

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>>10272128
He barely mentions SJWs (not that that would be a bad thing), that’s just how he became known because of the gender pronouns thing. Why does Peterson make you reddit commies so mad? Why does someone trying to help /r9k/-types better themselves make you furious?
>pic related. it's you

>> No.10275415

>>10275050

He's not banking the 70 grand, he's investing it in some new projects to fulfill his intention of a free online source of humanistic liberal education like the universities used to provide

>> No.10275438

>>10274940
Jesus Christ Marie, they're hydras!

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I think he's overly dramatic and his ramblings are a little shallow and discombobulated, but I also think he has genuine insight into a problem he himself faced and that a lot of young males currently face, thus his fanbase.

I'd say he's more "important" in light of the fact that he actually provides condensed digestible advice drawing from philosophers and physiologists rather than being a philosopher himself. Philosophy is an exercise of intrigue and in thinking - it is not intended as self-help or immediate influence.

>> No.10275473

>>10273131
Once a voluntary trade occurs, the company can do whatever it wants with the money it received. If they fail to invest in innovation or bigger production because of corruption, they'll lag behind competition. Private corruption can only exist if there's a government banking it.

>> No.10275486

>>10272079
Autistic yes, as ugly as that guy no

>> No.10275573

>>10274959
peterson posts heaps of shit on his twitter without necessarily endorsing it

>> No.10275590

>>10275414
>He barely mentions SJWs
Yes, he doesn't release hours and hours of inane babble about "postmodern neomarxists".
>Why does Peterson make you so mad?
Because he took on the responsibility of educating dimwits like you and turned it into a personality cult where every criticism of the dear leader results in autistic kneejerk outrage.

>> No.10275595

How can I make Petersom my daddy? I wanna moan his name as he pounds me with his dick and fills me with his cum

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>>10275590
>postmodern neonarxists
I think you’re a ‘postmodern neomarxist’, or close enough, and just cannot stand having your cult criticised so you project all these things onto others.
>autistic kneejerk outrage
Mate, read through your posts. You are absolutely seething, and for no reason. He’s just trying to help young men and it’s fucking infuriating you. He doesn’t claim to be the next Jesus – or whatever it is exactly you think he’s doing. I can actually picture you your fellow Redditors in this thread frothing at the mouth in front of your computer screens. Sort yourself out, Anon.

>> No.10275615

>>10274970
the only thing worse than this is that peterson reads these comments and enjoys them

>> No.10275635

>>10275609
>read through your posts
I just came in the thread, previous reply was my first one.
>He’s just trying to help young men and it’s fucking infuriating you
I don't think anybody at all is upset with his self-help work. All the criticism is concerned with his inane and misguided forays in philosophy where he severely lacks expertise, yet goes on to make rather serious claims which are immediately absorbed and taken on faith by the followers.
>neomarxist
>commies
>seething
>reddit
You realize you're not making your case any better when replying like an autistic frogtard to everything?

>> No.10275666

>>10271857
>Infotainment

That's a good word, can I save it?

>> No.10275822

>>10272070
>Fourierism and phalansteries.
What could possible go wrong?

>> No.10275827

>>10272098
Haha, live in a musty old castle: you should try it sometime!

Seriously, that happened a few years back nearby, and within months the local rag had headlines screaming: "Nazis of the Manor" /Castle Wolfenstein moral panic kind of shit.

>> No.10275839

>>10272826
Dostoyevsky, Solzhenitsyn, Evola, Spengler, de Maistre, Houellebecq, Stirner,

>> No.10275841

Communism is bad

>> No.10275856

>>10272061
Who?

>> No.10275857

>>10275839
Top right is Nick Land
Stirner is bottom right

>> No.10276790

>>10271845
Clean your room

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>be center rightist college professor
>Piss off leftists pseuds to the moon and back
Daily Reminder ,
PLUNGE IT DEEP YAMAGUICHI

>> No.10276819

>>10275021
What is blockchain?
What is barter?

>> No.10276820

>>10275822
>>10275827
>>Seriously, that happened a few years back nearby, and within months the local rag had headlines screaming: "Nazis of the Manor" /Castle Wolfenstein moral panic kind of shit.
Goddamit, look. I know people are shit, but this is my fantasy. That's what laws are for, but in my fantasy cult utopia, we're all a bunch of -
what's the word: you think the world is beautiful but you're also aware that it's cruel and awful. Alexander McQueen and Hayao Miyazaki are like that. I don't know the name for it: y'know, when you're vividly aware that nature is beautiful, but that you're also aware that a lion ripping the throat out of a gazelle is also natural? Look, this is too complicated for words right now,
But everyone who joins in the castle commune would think like that and we'd be happy being sort of cautiously happy with what we've got, and we want to express ourselves through art and the mindless repetition of hard work. (but since there's enough of us, it wouldn't be too much work, of course). We wouldn't be forced to do anything we didn't want to do, but of course that requires a baseline of "I'm willing to do that".

Look, this is my fantasy, and it'll probably never happen, so a small commune where there are only enough people that we can switch off on what we have to do often enough that everyone else can do what they want most of the time is my dream, so it'll work.

It'll be great. I'll weed half the garden on saturday and lay in my room drinking and writing and painting for the rest of the week.

>> No.10276825

>>10275041
You mean when publically insured banks were handed billions of public money to keep their businesses afloat instead of going out of business.
that's some free market

>> No.10276837

>>10273131
The standard libertarian response would be that larger corporations are not sustainable without heavy public investment. GE, Google, Koch Industries, Lockheed, etc, are all heavily in the lobbying game.

>> No.10276838

>>10276809
pretty good hit tbqh

>> No.10276865

>>10276819
Not who you responding to but

>What is blockchain?
Not a currency but a speculative financial asset, it suffers from massive fluctuations in value which make it impossible to price anything in it or to do real practical commerce

>What is barter?
A barrier to commerce

You could of just said "muh full gold reserve banking" if you wanted to be more serious, which has its own flaws

>> No.10276873

>>10271845
tbdesu*

>> No.10276910

>>10276825
>Keyanianism is not real free market!
It was free market until that point you retard. What was the United States government supposed to do? Let Great Depression 2: World Wide happen?

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>>10276819
All I know is the blockchain is what I mastered while you had premarital sex

>> No.10277016

>>10274842
Accurate. I don't know how many times I've watched this happen online.

>> No.10277029

>>10274970
I think reading the kekistani legend one alone turned me into a gay transgender marxist deconstructivist

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>>10276819
>Blockchain

>> No.10277067

>>10276910
No it wasn't. Subprime mortgages were government subsidized. On top of that you're dumb

>> No.10277077

>>10275839
I always get Spengler and Crowley mixed up for whatever reason

>> No.10277088

>>10277000
while this is true. public ledger currencies provide comparable supply control and tracking that government controlled currency had in the 20th century. besides, cash is easier to steal. The only thing the dollar has going for it is the laws stating that all debts can be paid in dollars and all taxes are required to be paid in dollars.

>> No.10277099

>>10275185
>deleuze
>marxist
Hmmm... guess he can’t truly understand Nietzsche either if he still believes in that sorta slave morality...

>> No.10277102

>>10277077
They look alike.

>> No.10277105

>>10274986
This is instapoet-tier shit

>> No.10277108

>>10276865
Response to how commerce could be done w/o government currencies. Both are forms of alternatives. Barter is impractical, agreed, but it is an alternative. Blockchain is a technology, cryptocurrencies are new and a lot of fiddling would have to be done to make it work, but it's far from impossible....just less institutional knowledge, but it's a matter of time.

>> No.10277241

>>10274940
A five headed dragon would absolutely maul one small man on his own.

What did he mean by this?

>> No.10277249

>>10272010
You should qualify theists in some way -- maybe 'theist philosophers / theologians' -- because the vast majority of theists are pedestrian morons who happened to be born into a church and so belong in the first three categories and not this high up.

>> No.10277271

>>10271845

you're mental m8, get a fucking grip

>> No.10277305

>>10274986
i like it in the vain of baz llurmans sunscreen

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>ctrl f pseud
>10 matches
the absolute state of /LIDDIT/

>> No.10277324

>>10277249
also should include marxists as in marxist historians, not just sjws

>> No.10277341

>>10277324
good point

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don't know much about the guy but I've been researching the popularity of existentialism for an extended essay and his videos on existentialism are top-tier imo

>> No.10277486

>>10272098
>Actually, I was thinking buying a castle. In europe there are so many fucking castles nobody knows what to fucking do with them, and you can buy one for literally a couple bucks

What kind of fantasy world do amerifags live in? Lmfao

>> No.10277516

>>10274970

jesus, i have to squint looking at that image... it's like staring at the sun... powerful stuff.

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Chaos is a ladder - Jordan Peterson

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>>10277067
And the free market turned a misguided government policy to the poison. Even if you insist than presence of government subsidized suddenly makes the economy not free market, the processes that made everything worse is not done by the government

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I enjoy Peterson's talks but I could never have predicted that the annoyance of Peterson-spamming could sink as low as 'arguing via reddit screenshot.' kill-9 thread pls

>> No.10279545

>>10275015
>private sector corruption is only corruption because of regulation you dingus
Materialism, not even once
This is a pathetic and disgusting attitude

>> No.10280221

>>10275000
No retard his entire argument was against the government compelling speech, not that he was triggered about pronouns.

>> No.10280292

>>10280221
Yeah. Personally I'm for pronouns, but Peterson get's ridiculous hate. Especially since in one of the videos, his response to "so you wouldn't use proper pronouns if asked" was "it depends on how I was asked," which is actually completely understandable and all anyone could ask for.

The argument against using special pronouns is stupid, because it's ultimately harmless, and there's no reason to antagonize someone for something so inconsequential, but digging your heels in when someone is being a bitch to you first is completely understandable.

>> No.10280315

>>10280292
>The argument against using special pronouns is stupid, because it's ultimately harmless.
Making you use certain words is 100% against free speech.

>> No.10280322

>>10280315
Yeah, but I mean using different pronouns in general, all policing or censorship aside.

Like if someone you were talking too suddenly asked to use xir instead, then why not, if it makes them feel better.

Censorship and compulsory use is a different discussion entirely.

>> No.10280323

>>10271845

Peterson is about as smart as the average dad in a "my dad is smarter than your dad" argument desu

>> No.10280335

>>10271845
>This faggot is creating his own pseudo-cult.
Well good for him.

>> No.10280351

>>10275015
>murder is only murder because we have laws against it

>> No.10280357

>>10272163
>f. Nobody would be forced to interact- I'm not much of a people person myself, actually.

>wants to start a cult
>is not charismatic and is against collectivism

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The true cringe here, in respect to peterson and his work on the internet, as a platform, is wholly and singularly leveled at people in these threads expecting a 55 year old clinical psychologist, and ex-harvard professor, who takes what he does with some degree of seriousness, to be emotionally literate on the complexities of the memes and the ideas shared on a website like this to the degree he would be self aware of the comedy we make of the seriousness of which he has built his life.

And of which your lives lack.

Now excuse me, I need to return to my rick and morty marathon.

>> No.10280371

>>10280322
>Like if someone you were talking too suddenly asked to use xir instead, then why not, if it makes them feel better.

Yeah, why not. But this is not what the whole thing is about. These people are trying the get a law that punishes people who don't address these individuals the way they want to be addressed . Which is complete madness. Peterson is not against using those pronouns, in a way, but getting the law forcing him to do so is what triggers him.

>> No.10280388

>>10275026
I'm pretty sure that was Molyneux.

>> No.10280396

>>10280371
since the law isn't an actually new law but only an extension of an already existing law, why didn't it trigger him that he couldn't call people other things (niggers and faggots, presumably)?
because he wouldn't do that, but he would misgender students.
so it's not about free speech, if it wa she would be asking for removal of all protected classes and not just transsexuals.

>> No.10280409

>>10280371
>Peterson is not against using those pronouns, in a way, but getting the law forcing him to do so is what triggers him.
Yeah, that's fine. I agree.

It's a difficult topic. People deserve to be treated with basic decency, at the least. But, as soon as something becomes political, it becomes two vocal minorities fighting.
SJWs want a nanny state that punishes people who don't follow their extreme ideals, the opposing side wants their shitty fucking bahavior to not have consequences. I mean, yeah. You don't have to be nice to people, but running up to strangers and verbally assaulting them has always been a crime.

You can't make people not be assholes, but trying to force people makes even nice people act like assholes out of spite.

Problem is, is that people are fucking insane and I can't even keep up anymore.

Remember when people lost their shit about starbuck's new fucking holiday cup? I mean, that's the perfect, corporately funded, scientific medium. It's a holiday cup that doesn't exclude or include anyone above anyone else and people LOST THEIR SHIT.

I think at that point I gave up trying to actually think of a proper answer. That's not even factoring the complete meltdown that happens when election season rolls around.

>> No.10280427

>>10280357
It's my fantasy, shush.
Besides, my overwhelming personality and blinding smile will convince people to follow me.
Also, I'd be in charge of applications, so there's that.

>> No.10280464

>>10272202
Jung admired and was presumably influenced by Nietzsche, and the former and the other 2 are all psychologists

>> No.10280468

>>10275000
I don't know if you're uninformed or misinformed.
Where on earth did you get this?

>> No.10280476

>>10275026
He definitely didn't like it, but his criticisms aren't that it was "feminist."
He complains how it promotes emotionally unhealthy behavior.

>> No.10280488

Regardless of the big head I think he's getting, I'm really jealous of his career
>professor at Harvard despite still taking Jung seriously, which is rightly or wrongly a taboo in modern psych
>Become well known as an inspiring figure for wayward young men
>probably makes more from his patreon than he gets from his salary

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>>10272010
Yes National Socialism is stupid, no country should take international profiteers bounty away in favour of its own people!

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>>10280323
>tfw Peterson will never be your dad
Can you imagine how incredibly well adjusted his children must be? I'm fucking jealous.

>> No.10280712

>>10280690
>incredibly well adjusted
yeah, having a chronically depressed guy with delusions of grandeur for a parent is great

>> No.10280724

>>10280712
>we're hitting levels of ressentiment that shouldn't even be possible

>> No.10280739

>>10272433
Leftist cultural hegemony in a world where people believe China is communist, Castro is perceived as a brutal dictator, anarchy is a synonym for brutal lawlessness, and people genuinely believe that "Stalin killed more than Hitler"? Give me a fucking break.

>> No.10280760

>>10280739
no-one ever said leftists weren't stupid and full of contradictions, friend

>> No.10280772

Every fucking day there's multiple "post modernism btfo" or a "hey what do.you think of this video" made by crossboarding /pol/ redditors who have never opened a book in their life. He isn't literature, he's barely philosophy, and he isn't worth discussing day-after-day-after-day with people who have no idea what they're talking about.

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>>10280772
>Every fucking day there's multiple "post modernism btfo" or a "hey what do.you think of this video" made by crossboarding /pol/ redditors who have never opened a book in their life. He isn't literature, he's barely philosophy, and he isn't worth discussing day-after-day-after-day with people who have no idea what they're talking about.

This. Do not respond to Jordan posts. This board is deteriorating by the minute.

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>>10280772
>>10280784
Sage and report.
At this point is just spam.