masculinity

[Anonymous No.10259957]

im fucking tired of this leftist degeneracy propaganda everywhere on the modern media, can /lit/ recommend me some good books about masculinity ? I've just started sun & steel from Mishima but I need a list

[Anonymous No.10260001]

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[Anonymous No.10260006]

>>10259957
Jack London stories
The Jungle
Homage to Catalonia

[Anonymous No.10260010]

For My Legionaries

[Anonymous No.10260011]

the more effort you invest into this escapist fantasy of being a manly man the more distant this imaginary state of manliness will become and the more acutely aware you will become of being a little crybaby faggot. you can order some books about alexander the great or whoever from amazon and distribute them neatly around your house but it won't make you any less of a weeping vagina.

[Anonymous No.10260017]

>>10260011
Leftist detected.

[Anonymous No.10260018]

>>10259957

[Anonymous No.10260021]

>>10260011
This.

[Anonymous No.10260024]

>leftist degeneracy propaganda everywhere
>reading about masculinity rather than going out and being a man

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[Anonymous No.10260025]

The Hustler by Walter Tevis. A book about a poolshark, but also a book about the male competitive drive.

[Anonymous No.10260030]

>>10259957

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Out-Freedom-Matter-Closeted/dp/0757303927/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0/147-7069893-5338152?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=FPV6NRW0QRHGRJPCMZ7K

Here you are OP.

[Anonymous No.10260031]

>>10260011
>>10260024
This and this. Stop being a wailing shitstain and be the change you want to see in the world, insufferable faggot.

[Anonymous No.10260035]

>>10260024
This, it is beyond pathetic

[Anonymous No.10260042]

>>10259957
On the off chance that this is serious: do what I do. Volunteer at soup kitchens, homeless shelters food pantries, etc. Don't read it, do it.

[Anonymous No.10260043]

>>10259957
Its not hard mate. Take good care of your mind body and soul. Be strong and courageous, slay dragons, but be kind, cheerful, generous and loving at the same time.

[Anonymous No.10260046]

>>10259957
Read this:
https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Price-Wen-Spencer-ebook/dp/B000OIZU1M

[Anonymous No.10260052]

>>10260001
I already workout, but thanks for the recommendation

>>10260011
>>10260021
>>10260031
I'll not take the bait from leftists in this thread, I dont want it to become political, y'all faggots need to move on buzzfeed or twitter

[Anonymous No.10260064]

>>10260024
>he is asking for an alternative media (cf books) about masculinity
>"hurr durr just go out"

[Anonymous No.10260068]

>>10260064
You don't get better at Tennis by reading about it dumbo.

[Anonymous No.10260070]

>>10260052
>everyone who disagrees with and criticizes with me is a leftist :((

You're a fucking moron. Stop acting like a child and take into consideration what others are saying.

The fact you harbor so much hatred towards a vague group is pathetic. There is no leftist propaganda. No one's out to get you Anon.

[Anonymous No.10260071]

>>10260017
exactly! your belief that your are the victim of a leftist conspiracy to steal your manliness is precisely why you can never be a man. no matter what you do there will always be this gap between what you are and what you imagine the leftists are preventing you from becoming. you're always going to be a crying little victim.

[Anonymous No.10260072]

The fact that you need to ask has already shown that you've failed.

[Anonymous No.10260073]

>>10260068
what is this board about you disgusting cumstain ?

[Anonymous No.10260078]

>>10260011
>>10260021
>>10260024
>>10260031
>>10260035
>wanting to be more masculine is bad
>reading about masculinity is bad
>you are either highly masculine already or should just give up

Either soyboy leftists or jews

[Anonymous No.10260079]

[Anonymous No.10260080]

>>10259957
>leftist degeneracy propaganda

>I'M not a man because leftist propaganda

Wrong. You're not a man because of low test

[Anonymous No.10260088]

[Anonymous No.10260089]

>>10260052
>I'll not take the bait from leftists in this thread

but you are, because you must. without the leftists, who would you blame for the sorry state of your life? who are you if not a victim?

[Anonymous No.10260101]

>>10260011
This. Do you think any of the writers listed here >>10260006 whined about "soyboys" sapping masculinity? You've already failed and it's embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.10260102]

The stars the snow the fire

About a trapper that lives alone in his Alaskan blockhouse for two decades.

[Anonymous No.10260106]

>>10260073
Literature. Just say you want to read books about masculinity and go, don't pretend you'll grow chest hair because you read a bit of Hemmingway.

>>10260078
Reading about masculinity isn't bad you drooling mouthbreather, but thinking that reading about masculinity will be effective in countering """leftist propaganda""" is pure delusion.

[Anonymous No.10260115]

>>10260106
Well, reading about biomechanics and nutrition won't make you an athlete either, but athletes still read theory, you retarded fuck

[Anonymous No.10260122]

>>10260115
>athletes still read theory

[Anonymous No.10260127]

>>10260122
>implying that athletes don't have knowledge about theory of nutrition and biomechanics

[Anonymous No.10260140]

You know what's definitely NOT masculine? Whining and flinging insults. Real men are stoic. Real men don't try to feel better about themselves by comparing themselves to the worst elements of society, they compare themselves to great men and try to see how they fall short, and how they can improve themselves. The first step is disconnecting yourself from the political shit-flinging contest.

[Anonymous No.10260144]

>>10260088
>reading a book about masculinity written by a literal tranny

[Anonymous No.10260153]

>>10260070
>There is no leftist propaganda
You'd have to be blind to not see that the majority of mass media outlets are pushing a "progressive" neoliberalism. Really just an excuse for capitalism to benevolently ransack more shit.

[Anonymous No.10260164]

>>10260127
They don't. They have personal coaches, nutritionists and doctors. People who read about "theory of nutrition and biomechanics" are skinnyfat virtue-signalling crossfiters and jogging women with cellulite chugging kale smoothies. Similarly how "masculine literature" is mostly the remit of angry fatherless beta faggots with victim complex.

[Anonymous No.10260175]

>>10260115
op is not trying to do anything as prosaic as winning a race. he imagines himself to be a victim of vampirism and wants his vital essence back. "which books do i read to regain my stolen masculinity" is a fundamentally delusional question, like "which sports car will make me young again".

[Anonymous No.10260185]

>>10260164
>athletes need coaches and nutritionists to tell them how to become better athletes, and it's ok
>if you're a man and seek a role-model as inspiration to become a better man, you're a pathetic embarassing failure

[Anonymous No.10260187]

What is masculinity anyway

[Anonymous No.10260192]

>>10260153
so you're saying that op's masculinity was stolen by centrist liberal-capitalists? the plot thickens. where in the world are op's balls?

[Anonymous No.10260200]

>>10260175
He didn't ask for books to "regain his stolen life essence", but for literary resources on masculinity. You're projecting so hard it shouldn't even be possible

[Anonymous No.10260204]

Go ask your dad.
Oh right he is a failure like you

[Anonymous No.10260210]

>>10260187
s-source? I already used saucenao

[Anonymous No.10260211]

>>10260185
>masculinity is "proficiency at being a man"
Great selfie.

[Anonymous No.10260217]

>>10259957
Read Lacan and Marx, they're totally masc but not in a gay way

[Anonymous No.10260219]

>>10260200
and yet he's incapable of explaining this without first establishing himself as a victim of leftist conspiracy and cries about leftist subversion in response to all detractors. this isn't rocket science. also, you don't know what projection is.

[Anonymous No.10260224]

>>10260187
>Phallic jouissance is that form of enjoyment that most of us experience most of the time; that is to say, just when we think we possess our object of desire - be that another person, a new possession or even a difficult idea we have been struggling to get hold of - we are still dissatisfied; we are disappointed and have a sense that our desire has not been fully satisfied. This sense of (dis)satisfaction that always leaves something wanting is precisely what Lacan calls phallic jouissance and defines the masculine structure. A masculine structure is characterized by turning the Other into an objet a, and mistakenly thinking that the object can fully satisfy our desire. It is essential to keep in mind here, though, that phallic jouissance is not male in the sense that only men can experience it; it is experienced by both men and women and is defined as phallic insofar as it is characterized by failure.

[Anonymous No.10260227]

ok OP, here is what I understand as masculinity:

one of the most important things is having strict values. The reason why you can """build your masculinity""" reading books specifically about this is that although all manly, masculine characters from different medias (movies, series, books, etc) have strict values, their values are different, this is why reading philosophy books or books like Revolt against the modern world are better options, because from them, you build your own values. What those guys have in common is that their values, although different, are INFLEXIBLE, just as their word.

This, for me, is the very foundation of being a man. If a man fucks up once and his words are betrayed by his actions, the respect of people around him will constantly decline. You can literally be a skinny dyel, if you have strong words, strong inflexible values, you are already halfway there, and trust me, people do notice shit like that, especially your family.

aside from that, yeah, try and take care of your mind, body and soul as other anon said, looking healthy and stable is very important, just as being fair, being generous with those that deserve and and ruthless for those that deserve.

[Anonymous No.10260231]

>>10260227
>The reason why you ***can'T*** """build your masculinity"""

[Anonymous No.10260232]

The more you try to "act like a man" the more you become a simulacra of it.

[Anonymous No.10260234]

>>10260227
>"Here is what I understand as masculinity"
>Lists things women can also do

Nice job you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.10260244]

>>10260211
Masculinity is, pretty much, the proficiency at being a man.

>>10260219
OK, I'm not OP so I won't make attempts at reading his mind.
I think we can both agree though, that masculinity is primarily the result of experience, but it's still highly beneficial to have role models and an educated understanding on what "masculinity" means as a concept and an archetype.

[Anonymous No.10260263]

>>10259957
Hemingway.

A Farewell to Arms
The Sun Also Rises
The Old Man and the Sea
A Moveable Feast
For Whom the Bell Tolls
To Have and Have Not

[Anonymous No.10260266]

>>10260234
tell me what about masculinity a woman cannot do.

[Anonymous No.10260271]

>>10260052
>I dont want it to become political
>im fucking tired of this leftist degeneracy propaganda everywhere on the modern media

[Anonymous No.10260274]

>>10260227
so masculinity is being extremely committed to a set of values but the values itself are arbitrary? then from now on i will be incredibly, inflexibly committed to always wearing a pink dress. i will NEVER be seen in anything but a pink dress. i wonder how long it will take my family to notice my newfound manliness.

[Anonymous No.10260280]

>>10260274
fashion is not a value

[Anonymous No.10260281]

>>10260024
This guy is right. Reading about the person you want to be won't solve anything itself. Turn yourself into the person you want to be. Sure you can use books about masculinity for motivation, but without taking pride in who you are in real life you won't go anywhere.

[Anonymous No.10260283]

>>10260280
>what is aesthethics

[Anonymous No.10260285]

>>10260164
This is untrue, there are and have been athletes who were self-coached to a high level of success.

I myself had a terrible coach in high school track. I made my own workouts and just told my coach what I was doing for the day, and I finished high school with three state championships.

Suck it faggot.

[Anonymous No.10260298]

>>10260042
That's not masculine, it's actually quite feminine

[Anonymous No.10260303]

>>10260144
Seriously

[Anonymous No.10260304]

>>10260244
>I won't make attempts at reading his mind.
try reading posts instead

>I think we can both agree though, that masculinity is primarily the result of...

masculinity is experienced through lack. you're confusing causes with results. you want these books, role models etc in the hope of closing a gap that can never be closed. masculinity is the gap.

[Anonymous No.10260308]

>>10260274
are you more worried about how a man looks instead of his actions? you are literally focusing on something superfluous that shouldn't even be important.

[Anonymous No.10260312]

>>10260280
ok then i'll commit myself to being the perfect embodiment of the victorian ideal of the angel in the house. i will be gentle, quiet, pleasant and utterly submissive to my husband. will i be masculine then?

[Anonymous No.10260323]

>>10260312
If this is what you TRULY enjoy and what you TRULY feel is the right thing to do, then yes.
But you don't, so no.

>>10260304
masculinity is experienced through lack. you're confusing causes with results. you want these books, role models etc in the hope of closing a gap that can never be closed. masculinity is the gap.

Could you please elaborate on that?

[Anonymous No.10260324]

>>10259957
ncbi studies on testosterone and androgens are the highest form of masculine literature

[Anonymous No.10260327]

>>10260308
no i'm just mocking that anon's idea that masculinity is commitment but the object of the commitment is irrelevant. you just need to have "strong words" about whatever. it sounds like the premise for a comedy character, "i swore on my father's grave that i will never eat carrots", maybe a mortal duel over flower arrangements.

[Anonymous No.10260333]

>>10260274
>so masculinity is being extremely committed to a set of values but the values itself are arbitrary?
of course the values are arbitrary. take the manliest men you can find on movies/series, it doesn't matter if the guy is moral or not.

take for instance don corleone, yea silly example but anyway
>you respect him, he respects you
>you are generous with him, he is generous with you
>you want favors, you pay off and vice versa
>if you fuck up, you can expect 100% guaranteed consequences

yes, he can dress in any way he wants, if he enters a room, people will respect him.

of course you are not a mobking, nor you have a lot of money or guys to send kill your enemies, but with small actions, by time, you can build respect on the people around you

[Anonymous No.10260337]

>>10260192
I get it;
that OP can't be responsible for his inadequacy and has to blame it on whatever media hes consuming is enough to see that he's suffering from some sort of complex.
Thats not to say that the MM (mainstream media) hasn't been emphasizing a picture of more feminine men, but its only enough to influence you if you're a) a child, or b) an easily suggestible human being. If you want to stop being a beta heres a free tip;
stop watching porn.

[Anonymous No.10260346]

>>10259957

Pic related is bretty gud.

Also, to the "hurr durr don't read, just be a man" retard(s) in this thread, reading books about masculinity gives you a positive image of masculinity that you can strive for, and ergo make you a better man. Of course it's not going to grow your chest hair out, you fucking idiot. You were most likely not born a stupid faggot, the books you read and the ideas you absorbed made you into that.

[Anonymous No.10260359]

>>10260323
>If this is what you TRULY enjoy and what you TRULY feel is the right thing to do, then yes.

ok so now masculinity is "being true to yourself". previously your concept of masculinity was comically arbitrary, now it closely resembles the sort of platitude you would read in a woman's magazine. "a real man is INFLEXIBLE in FOLLOWING HIS HEART" - battered housewife monthly

[Anonymous No.10260372]

>>10260359
I'm not the person you originally replied to.
If you truly belived (in your heart and your mind) that the submissive gentle house-husband is who you want to be, but didn't become one in fear of social ostracism or "looking unmanly" - does it sound very masculine to you? To me it sounds like fear and insecurity.

>"a real man is INFLEXIBLE in FOLLOWING HIS HEART"
Pretty much, yes

[Anonymous No.10260381]

>>10259957
hello bladee

[Anonymous No.10260382]

I don't fucking understand this "don't read books, just go be a man" shit. That argument completely nullifies reading entirely then.

>if you want to be a man don't read about masculinity just go be a man!
>if you want to be a carpenter don't read about woodshop projects just go be a carpenter!
>if you want to be a physicist don't read about physics just go out and be a physicist!
>if you want to be an artist don't read about color theory or proportions just go out and be an artist!

what the fuck are you people smoking?

[Anonymous No.10260391]

>being inflexible is being a man
Not that is being autistic

[Anonymous No.10260395]

>>10260382
You really can't see how there might be a difference, even if you don't agree?

>if you want to live your life your own way instead of spending it reading books where other people tell you how to live your life while not leaving the house, do it

[Anonymous No.10260400]

>>10260395
He didn't say he wanted to "live life his own way", he said he wanted to be more masculine, thus he should read a book about masculinity

[Anonymous No.10260405]

>>10260382
we've been over this. the op is not asking for solutions for a practical problem, he is engaging in a fantasy of being a victim of masculinity-stealing leftists and he thinks the right amazon purchase will reverse this imaginary process. op is simply very unhappy and i have no idea what books would make him stop being so unhappy.

[Anonymous No.10260407]

>>10260405

t. goy-boy

[Anonymous No.10260408]

>>10260405
try the redpill, degenerate leftist scum. We are against multiculturalism and women being whores. That's masculnity

[Anonymous No.10260412]

>>10259957
Start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.10260416]

>>10260400
Right but it's pretty obvious from the posts in this thread that a lot of people associate that sort of self-determination with masculinity as an inherent part.

[Anonymous No.10260418]

There is nothing more masculine than buttfucking another man

[Anonymous No.10260424]

>>10260071
jesus, imagine having this much vitriol to spit at some random stranger on the internet
i hope you find meaning in life someday

[Anonymous No.10260428]

>>10260424
He is right, you are not a victim of a conspiracy just a little bitch

[Anonymous No.10260429]

>>10260405
fucking jew

[Anonymous No.10260430]

A Genuine list:

Lord Jim by Joseph Conrad
Nostromo by Joseph Conrad

The Call of The Wild by Jack London
White Fang by Jack London
The Sea Wolf by Jack London
Marten Eden by Jack London

Of Human Bondage by Somerset Maugham
The Razor's Edge by Somerset Maugham
Ashenden by Somerset Maugham

The Complete Short Stories by Ernest Hemingway
For Whom The Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway
To Have and to Have Not by Ernest Hemingway
The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemingway
Death in the Afternoon by Ernest Hemingway

Tropic of Cancer & other Memoirs by Henry Miller

The Road to Wigan Pier by George Orwell
Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell
Essays by George Orwell
1984 by George Orwell

The Phillip Marlowe Series by Raymond Chandler

Never Come Morning by Nelson Algren
The Neon Wilderness by Nelson Algren
The Texas Stories by Nelson Algren
Nonconformity by Nelson Algren

The Magus by John Fowles
Daniel Martin by John Fowles

The Pugilist at Rest by Thom Jones
Cold Snap by Thom Jones
Sonny Liston was a Friend of Mine by Thom Jones

Grendel by John Gardner
Nickel Mountain by John Gardner
Mickelsson's Ghosts by John Gardner

Dog Soldiers by Roger Stone
A Flag for Sunrise by Roger Stone
Outerbridge Reach by Roger Stone

The Complete Short Stories of Raymond Carver

Stoner by John Williams

Other Men's Daughters by Richard Stern

The Bascombe series by Richard Ford

Preparation for the Next Life by Atticus Lish

[Anonymous No.10260432]

>>10260428
not OP, hope you're feeling okay too dude. you want to talk about what's agitating you so much?

[Anonymous No.10260436]

>>10260430
>ernest "dicksucker" hemmminhway

[Anonymous No.10260441]

>>10260372
fantastic. we've now established that every kind of behavior imaginable is masculine because who are you to say it's not the secret truth of my heart? being inflexible is masculine, being flexible is masculine, as long as it agrees with imaginary inner truth. turns out masculinity is a meaningless new age buzzword. who knew?

[Anonymous No.10260444]

>>10260071
so do you believe that there is not general anti-masculine trend in academia and the media?

[Anonymous No.10260456]

>>10259957
Read lacans description of sexual difference and reconsider your life choises. Masculinity and feminity are empty categories defined only by the inherent lack in all of us. Sooner you stop chasing it sooner you can build a somewhat genuine self.

[Anonymous No.10260461]

>>10259957
Going macho is the most certain way to fuck even less than you are doing now.

Dress fashionably, be fun, keep reading mishima, but don't go all masculine unless you are ready to go gay.

[Anonymous No.10260463]

>>10260441
>who are you to say it's not the secret truth of my heart?
It takes experience and introspection to know the true secret of your heart.
Generally though the hearts of men aren't that much different one from another. Our primal instincts are still there - learn to listen to them.

[Anonymous No.10260464]

>>10260011
Don't be silly.

[Anonymous No.10260465]

>>10260011
Wasn't Great Alex considered a psycho-gay-genius?

[Anonymous No.10260468]

>>10260444
it's irrelevant. what's relevant is that you're a coward that can't take responsibility for your life and will immediately redirect all conversations about it to worthless fucking whining about "the media"

[Anonymous No.10260469]

>>10260456
This anon is very wise. Don't get trapped into masculinity, nobody likes that shit.

[Anonymous No.10260470]

>>10260468
seriously dude, you seem really upset over this. you sure you don't wanna talk about it, man?

[Anonymous No.10260471]

>>10260281
There is nothing wrong with having heroes.

[Anonymous No.10260473]

>>10260463
when can i see you on oprah

[Anonymous No.10260476]

>>10260011
fourth post best post

[Anonymous No.10260480]

>>10260471
There is nothing wrong, just don't try to larp them.

Like so many guys when I used to go to college were the laughing stock of everyone because they kept larping the two writers they read. Even worse those that in high school try to be anime villains.

[Anonymous No.10260482]

>>10260441
There has always been a definition of masculinity since humanity had some semblance of a consciousness. The definition, though, changes with the culture, and varies wildly throughout history.

Some cultures celebrate masculinity as being stoic and unyielding and rational (specifically 19th century Britain started this "stiff upper lip" trend) while everybody knows that Ancient Greek men proved their masculinity by being emotional and crying a lot and buttfucking each other and little boys.

[Anonymous No.10260484]

>>10260473
You can check out my new book, "12 Rules for Life". It's in pre-order now and comes out in january.

[Anonymous No.10260486]

>>10260470
it's true, and i am

[Anonymous No.10260492]

>>10260482
just type "i don't know" already

[Anonymous No.10260494]

>>10260052
>I'll not take the bait
he says, taking the bait

[Anonymous No.10260514]

>>10260468
this straw-manning jesus christ
im not even the OP
>everybody who voices his distaste for the anti-masculine trend is projecting his own inadequacies, despite the fact that masculine people complain irl about it

[Anonymous No.10260516]

[Anonymous No.10260520]

>>10260514
>the anti-masculine trend

mommy mommy i'm being oppressed by the the anti-masculine trend again, for being so masculine!

[Anonymous No.10260527]

Why are you reading books on masculinity and not just masculine? I've never met someone who is masculine that *reads* books about masculinity

[Anonymous No.10260533]

>>10260492
When I told you a definition you've dismissed it as New Age Bullshit.
Someone else says there's no one definition because it changes with culture, and you pull this.

[Anonymous No.10260540]

The Sun Also Rises can teach you a good deal about masculinity and what it entails.

[Anonymous No.10260542]

>>10260520
Wtf man, I'm not even the person you're replying to, and it's unsettling how emotional and aggressive you're about this
Are you really 100% positive you're not a Jew?

[Anonymous No.10260544]

Hahahahahahahaahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.10260547]

>>10260533
the real definition was quoted a long time ago i'm just laughing at your meandering responses

[Anonymous No.10260548]

>>10259957
>What is a beta male? He is the kind of man who anxiously looks for something to identify him as a man, while doing nothing to become a man. For him, there's Guinness.

[Anonymous No.10260551]

>>10260547
They're "meandering" because you're not talking with one person you fuckwit. 49 other people beside you have posted here

[Anonymous No.10260552]

>>10260430
>>10260516
that was exactly what I was looking for.
thanks anons

[Anonymous No.10260558]

>>10260551
EVERYONE IS OP, I AM THE LONE DEFENDER OF TRUE MASCULINITY AGAINST THE /pol/ HORDES

[Anonymous No.10260561]

>>10260558
Everyone is OP at a certain point in their life.

[Anonymous No.10260569]

>>10260285
>athletes don't study biomechanics, nutritional science and phyisology
>THIS IS UNTRUE I WORKED OUT WITHOUT A COACH
Kill yourself, terminal cretin.

[Anonymous No.10260570]

>>10260520
what if i told you that im tall, decent looking, have a deep voice, and don't blame the cultural climate for any of my shortcoming, but that this doesn't preclude me from disagreeing with it?

[Anonymous No.10260571]

>>10260542
Your reliance on an external threat (the Jew) is really destroying your ability to have a conversation. Are you unable to fathom that a person from your percived in-group could genunely hold a belief that contradicts your own world view or are you expecting the "true members" of this group to jump to your help by identifying him as the "Jew".

[Anonymous No.10260575]

>>10260244
>Masculinity is, pretty much, the proficiency at being a man.
Kek. This sentence alone is the reason to call you a worthless fag.

[Anonymous No.10260576]

Just go outside and be a man you pathetic puddle of pussy juice. How are you such a whimpering faggot you need some book to tell you what a man is? Do you not have a cock dangling between your legs? Give your balls a tug to make sure they're still there and just be a man.

[Anonymous No.10260580]

>>10260571
Sounds like something a Jew would say.

[Anonymous No.10260585]

>>10260576
>>10260575
>>10260571
Wanna know how I know you're a samefag? Both before those three posts and after them the number of individual posters was 51

How pathetic can you get?

[Anonymous No.10260590]

>>10260585

[Anonymous No.10260592]

>>10260580
Even if there is a jewish conspiracy, your juvenile fantasy would have nothing to do with it. It's quite obivious that you lack the ability for abstract thinking and have created a humanized idol in the place of the actual institutions and structures holding your self-identification hostage.

[Anonymous No.10260613]

>>10260576

[Anonymous No.10260616]

>>10260585
>three new messages were posted in a thread with 51 posters
>that means it's a samefag
I think your problem is not with masculinity, it's with mental disability.
>all 3 posts are within a timeout
A severe one.

[Anonymous No.10260653]

Every time:
“Can I be that I have been owned? No! It must be the Jews!”

[Anonymous No.10260679]

>>10260585
You samefag when you reply to yourself while pretending to be someone else. Even if those posts hadn't been posted within one minute they wouldn't be samefag.
Just fuck off, you're an idiot and probably a newfag redditor as well.

[Anonymous No.10260693]

>>10259957
meme slogans like "degeneracy" and "leftist propaganda" dilute whatever points people like you might have. That's all people see when they read posts like that, which allows them to dismiss people like you as alt-right faggots

[Anonymous No.10260704]

>>10260227
It's so alienating how much more difficult masculinity is to perform than femininity, yet women are the ones who get all the cultural sympathy for having to conform to a type. You get all of the work with none of the acknowledgment

[Anonymous No.10260715]

>>10260693
ikr, i dont want to deal with people who label memes as politics anyway so it filters the cancer, people who get what i say are only the ones who can help

[Anonymous No.10260735]

>>10260224
The only good definition in this thread.

[Anonymous No.10260808]

Gazzy Garcia - Meditations

[Anonymous No.10260831]

>>10260715
>I deliberately express myself as an obnoxious clown so that I only get replies from people for whom this is a normal communication method
How can a single man be this much of a retard?

[Anonymous No.10260865]

>>10260831
right wing politics

[Anonymous No.10260884]

>>10260234
have you ever met a woman that wasn't insecure?

[Anonymous No.10260926]

>>10260831
its 4chan, stop taking this website so seriously ahahah

[Anonymous No.10260964]

>>10260715
It would work better if you didn't do that, though. I couldn't tell you how many right-wing ideas i've gotten through to lefties just by not alienating them

[Anonymous No.10260986]

>>10259957
The Way Of Men, Jack Donovan.

[Anonymous No.10260996]

Storm of Steel, Ernst Junger

[Anonymous No.10261119]

>>10260298
Not him, but I can see where he's coming from. You'll primarily be working with women and so all of the difficult tasks -lifting, managing volunteers, placating bum fights - will fall on your shoulders. It's nice to feel depended on, especially when it's a choice rather than an obligation

[Anonymous No.10261126]

>>10259957
Is that fucking Bladee?

[Anonymous No.10261136]

Stranger

[Anonymous No.10261174]

>>10260144
>>10260303
Mishima wasn't a tranny. He was a homosexual. Who better to idealize masculinity? Who better to show its beauty? To be a man and to love men, that is masculinity.

[Anonymous No.10261204]

Masculinity, as a cultural concept, is not objective, it is a fictional archetype embedded in the human consciousness.
The best way to be masculine is to be born with masculine traits like high testosterone, large stature, masculine facial features, etc. These are all things that are physically masculine, which is connected to, but in some ways distinct, from being culturally masculine.
(In truth, there is a lot of overlap. Someone born with good genetics and high prenatal testosterone will obviously be socialized into a masculine role and expected to be masculine. High testosterone is also associated with masculine traits such as aggressiveness, confidence, conflict, low agreeableness, being attracted to curvaceous women, etc.)
If you want examples of masculinity, simply look at cultural depictions of masculinity: in the archaic world, Gilgamesh, the Illiad, the Odyssey, Beowulf, etc. The important thing to remember is that masculinity is a social construct based on biological traits, and influenced by the beliefs and needs of a specific culture.

[Anonymous No.10261258]

Confucius
Also don't worry about it. Just improve yourself.

[Anonymous No.10261412]

>>10260552
The way of man was written by a gay dude about how muscley guys get him all hot and bothered, just FYI OP