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What do atheists base their moral framework upon?

>> No.10257008

Atheists are governed by the very same morality as everyone else.

>> No.10257010

Atheism is not a structure or framework for belief. Two athiests could give entirely separate answers to this question. Idiot

>> No.10257015

>>10257008
Wow what an incredibly stupid response

>> No.10257036

>>10256991
satan obviously

>> No.10257037

>>10256991
Their non-belief in God.

>> No.10257054

>>10257010
spbp
Personally I'm fond of virtue ethics

>> No.10257058

I think I speak for all atheists when I say this, fucking pretty girls' asses

>> No.10257067

My bet?
Utilitarianism.
That's my experience and prejudice.

>> No.10257076

>>10257067
was harvey weinstein the ultimate utility monster?

>> No.10257100

>>10257010
Only good answer in the thread

>> No.10257114

sam harris

>> No.10257129

A combination of things I learned during my upbringing and enlightenment thinking.

>> No.10257135

>>10257129
Note: this is a personal description for me. Atheists are not a singular group. Your question could also have been "what do people with curly hair base their morality upon" or "what do people who don't like swimming base their morality upon."

>> No.10257138

>>10257067
What is Buddhism?

>> No.10257140

getting put in concentrations camps and going
>see? there is no god!

>> No.10257149
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10257149

>>10256991
i try to treat everyone with kindness, because i have received unkindness and it sucks ass and i don't want to perpetuate odious behavior

>> No.10257160

>>10257149
but God isn't a person, right?

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>>10256991
Most of them won't understand this question. They'll just state what they do/believe (see: >>10257129, >>10257149). Pic related is height of moral philosophy to them.

>> No.10257197

>>10257008
>>10257010
>>10257015
>>10257036
>>10257037
>>10257054
>>10257058
>>10257067
>>10257076
>>10257100
>>10257114
>>10257129
>>10257135
>>10257138
>>10257140
>>10257149
>>10257160
>>10257185
Social contract theory, you thick cunts.

Here's one of the few times William Lane Craig gets his asshole BTFO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJnCQuPiuo

>> No.10257200

>>10257197
mass posting is demagougery

>> No.10257211

>>10257197
Anon I'm looking for a video of a lecture by I think Shelly Kagan (maybe I'm wrong about that), who was introducing a special social contract fundation of morality, which was based on a "negotiation" approach.
His idea was that the rules of morality are what we would settle on if we had to agree on rules before joining society, and if those negotiations were done behind a veil of ignorance (a.k.a. you don't know who you are while negotiating).

I would love to find it again. Maybe you know.

>> No.10257223

>>10257211
That's Rawls, my man.

>> No.10257230

>>10257015
It's fully relevant actually. One can post his own theoretical foundation for morality but that will just get debated endlessly.
The much more powerful argument is to show that religious people don't actually base their morality on scriptures. Thus entirely removing the idea that atheists have a stronger burden of clarification.

>> No.10257235

what makes tummy and pee pee feel good

>> No.10257634

>>10257230
I see the point you/he was making but it was communicated poorly. To say "atheists are governed by the same morality as everyone else" suggests an assumption that there is an objective standard for morality independent of humankind, the assumed consensus on which is nonexistant

>> No.10257639

>>10257054
how do you even justify virtue ethics without posing a telos for humans?

>> No.10257648

>>10257197
How can I have any binding obligation to society if there is no God?

>> No.10257670

>>10256991
The state, which is why they're degenerate and misguided

>> No.10257676

>>10257648
It's biding to other people. And because it's morally wrong

>> No.10257690

>>10257160
>but God isn't a person, right?
I don't know, ask yourself. you are God, are you a person?

Since the name of God is "I AM", you can say "I am not God" back to me but that is only saying "God is not God", offcourse God is not God, God is everything so one of the things he must be is not himself

it all works out because for every "I AM" there is always an "I AM not"

one of the games God plays is pretending to not be himself
"I am an atheist",
"I am not an atheist",
"I am a theist",
"I am not a theist"

but they are all the same "I AM"