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Master = cruel man

Slave = compassionate man

Ubermensch = compassionate man who chooses cruelty

?

>> No.10252611

>>10252461
very interesting...
just want to include his cruelty toward himself, meaning his constant suspicion of his motives
he was brutal on himself

>> No.10252885
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>>10252461
>Ubermensch = compassionate man who chooses cruelty
no.

>> No.10253186

>>10252461
op = fag
fag = op

>> No.10253312

>>10252461
>Slave = man who resents that he is not the Master, realizes that he can do nothing about his resentment, and so propagates an ethical system to glorify his own victimhood, thus usurping the Master's moral superiority.

And that's how we got to where we are today.

>> No.10253516

>>10253312
he went kookoo

>> No.10253533

>>10252461
Master = consciousness but has no self-consciousness
Slave = no consciousness but has self-consciousness

>> No.10254068

How to become Ubermensch? I have very little in the way of balls. I don't want tragedies. But if they are forced on me I'm pretty good at eating dirt I suppose. Also I have a god complex, but experience has proved that to be a potential downfall for me.

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>>10252461
>it's "i pretend i have read nietzche but in truth i have only read a wikipedia article" thread no. 12412567081340561234

>> No.10254129

>>10252461

well the ubermensch would have integrated his shadow successfully, so yes.

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>>10252461
OP = slave morality

Making master morality is as something "evil" is a sure sign of slave morality

>> No.10254251

>>10252461
Try cruel man who chooses compassion. Nature itself is cruel.

>> No.10254270

>>10252461
Ubermensch = someone who lives the life they want to live while trying not to be a cunt to the normies

>> No.10254322

>>10252461
Spoken like a true self-righteous slave.

Master = compassionate man

Slave = resentful man

Ubermensch = “He enjoys the taste of what is wholesome for him; his pleasure in anything ceases when the bounds of the wholesome are crossed; he divines the remedies for partial injuries; he has illnesses as great stimulants of his life; he knows how to exploit ill chances; he grows stronger through the accidents that threaten to destroy him; he instinctively gathers from all that he sees, hears, experiences, what advances his main concern--he follows a principle of selection--he allows much to fall through; he reacts with the slowness bred by a long caution and a deliberate pride--he tests a stimulus for its origin and its intentions, he does not submit; he is always in his own company, whether he deals with books, men, or landscapes; he honors by choosing, by admitting, by trusting.”

>> No.10255546

>>10254270
kek, nope.

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Is Chad the übermensch?

>> No.10255625

>>10255603
Neo-Chad is. Classical Chad is superficial and hedonistic

>> No.10255762

Nietzsche = dumbass man

>> No.10255922

All of these are oversimplifications. The last one is utterly retarded.

Everyone is capable of compassion and cruelty. Neither is inherently bad, and both have their place. For example, a certain degree of cruelty is necessary for a healthy and well-developed sense of humor (as Nietzsche observed, "Humor is just Schadenfreude with a clear conscience", hence the absurdity of the idea that all jokes should "punch up"), but there is a difference between this sort of casual and relatively benign cruelty and sadism which necessarily derives from weakness and pathology. Likewise, compassion is a natural reaction to suffering in beings with whom we identify something of ourselves, the degree of which will vary depending on various factors relating to both sufferer and the sufferee. But there is a difference between this and the exaggerated altruism you see in people who, out of weakness and fear, identify themselves as the victim in every big and small scenario and demand justice for the slightest pin prick of the aggreviated.

A Ubermensch would be a man who is capable of both compassion and cruelty, and makes use of both, but who also possesses a strong sense of magnanimity and tends to towards compassion out of a superfluity of strength and a sense of noblesse oblige.